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mlyonsd
01-20-2010, 12:39 PM
The Stimulus Works...
Posted By John Stossel On January 20, 2010

...at least for one person. Who? Penn State University's Michael Mann, a climate scientist whose credibility has come into question. He's the guy behind Al Gore's famous "hockey stick" graph, which has been discredited.

Mann was also a central figure in the Climate-Gate email scandal, which showed prominent global warming alarmists to be fudging the data and squelching dissent.

According to today's Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575010931344004278.html) <SUP>[1]</SUP>, more than $2.4 million is "stimulating" the career of Michael Mann:

Mr. Mann came by his grants via the National Science Foundation, which received $3 billion in stimulus money. Last June, the foundation approved a $541,184 grant to fund [Mann's] work [...] He received another grant worth nearly $1.9 million [...] Both grants say they were "funded under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009."

I assumed the deceit reveled by the emails and hockey stick error would mean my tax dollars will stop going to someone like Mann. I assume wrong:

The NSF made these awards prior to last year's climate email scandal, but a member of its Office of Legislative and Public Affairs told us she was "unaware of any discussion regarding suspending or changing the awards made to Michael Mann."

Give me a break.

http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/01/20/the-stimulus-works/

mlyonsd
01-20-2010, 02:27 PM
Seriously, do even any of you GW people think $2.4 million dollars of stimulus money should be spent this way?

I mean seriously? Stimulus money?

oldandslow
01-20-2010, 02:38 PM
NSF gives grants to all types of research. This wasn't a direct stimulus payment to the Penn State researcher. Are you arguing that climate change shouldn't be studied?

mlyonsd
01-20-2010, 02:41 PM
NSF gives grants to all types of research. This wasn't a direct stimulus payment to the Penn State researcher. Are you arguing that climate change shouldn't be studied?

Then I don't get what this means:

Both grants say they were "funded under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009."


I don't care if climate change is studied but I do have an issue spending unprinted dollars on it. Especially dollars that were intended (I thought) to turn the economy around, not help support some scientist that doesn't know what he's doing.

The Mad Crapper
02-03-2010, 08:46 AM
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KILLER_CLOWN
02-03-2010, 09:31 AM
NSF gives grants to all types of research. This wasn't a direct stimulus payment to the Penn State researcher. Are you arguing that climate change shouldn't be studied?

At the point to where this scam is now wholly exposed i would say we have more pressing matters such as the starving people right here at home.

fan4ever
02-03-2010, 10:21 AM
Liberals don't care if Global Warming is real.

Then once cap and trade is passed and even more jobs are sent overseas, they'll scream about the corrupt corporations exporting our jobs.

Chief Henry
02-03-2010, 10:49 AM
Liberals don't care if Global Warming is real.

Then once cap and trade is passed and even more jobs are sent overseas, they'll scream about the corrupt corporations exporting our jobs.

this

Taco John
02-03-2010, 10:52 AM
Uh oh. It looks like Stossel hasn't gotten the message because he said something about global warming is discredited. Apparently he doesn't know that you can't discredit anything about global warming because every scientist in the universe is in universal agreement that we're all doomed if we don't start taxing Americans today!

mlyonsd
02-03-2010, 10:57 AM
Make up some bogus chit so a past VP can get a Nobel, then you get a $2 million dollar reward.

Makes sense.

The Mad Crapper
09-03-2010, 07:40 AM
James Jay Lee: Ecomoonbattery Reaches Full Flower

September 1, 2010 5:00 PM

Stuff enough malignant lies into the brains of unhinged halfwits and it is only a matter of time until you end up with a few cases like James Jay Lee:

A man known for protesting the Discovery Channel's environmental programming stormed the network's Maryland headquarters carrying a handgun on Wednesday, holding three people hostage for hours until he was shot and killed by police, according to authorities. …

The suspect was identified by Discovery Communications as James Jay Lee of San Diego, Calif., a man well-known to the building's employees because of his history of protesting the network.

Sounds like one of those demonic right-wingers our Director of Homeland Security warned us about. Maybe the Tea Party has boiled over into violence, just as the media has so stridently predicted.

Then again, maybe Lee was a moonbat — like virtually all public menaces.

A website registered to Lee criticized Discovery and announced plans for the protest in January 2008: "These guys have been very sneaky and deceptive as to their contribution to the planetary problems. Just look at their 'new' show about saving the planet, 'Planet Green,' to me, it's just another show about more PRODUCTS to make MONEY, not about actual solutions. We can't let them get away with doing it anymore."

Capitalists who won't stop producing PRODUCTS we want just to make MONEY obviously must be stopped. That's what our kids are taught in school, anyway.

Lee is believed to have distributed a manifesto outside the Discovery building several weeks ago that called on the network to "broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet."

When a moonbat starts barking about "saving the planet," anyone he bites should be tested for rabies. How did this kook get such crazy thoughts in his head?

Lee reportedly said he began working to save the planet after being laid off from his job in San Diego. He said he was inspired by "Ishmael," a novel by environmentalist Daniel Quinn and by former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."

Discovery Communications is about as ecomoonbatty an outfit as you will find. One of its channels even runs "Whale Wars," a program dedicated to glorifying the terrorist activities of sociopathic hippy pirates who sabotage whaling vessels. But to a moonbat, moonbattery could never go far enough.

Happy, Prince Albert? Your global warming crisis has finally claimed a victim.

See how many favorite liberal themes you can find in these highlights from Lee's manifesto:

The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:

…Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. …

All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs' places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it. …

All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. …

Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! …

Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don't build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet! …

Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people's brains until they get it!! …

For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human's lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease! …

Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.

Of course, the Squirrels.

Readers will note that his frenzied hostility to human reproduction is common among the environmental cognoscenti (see here and here and here). As Lee illustrates so floridly, liberal environmentalism is not just foolish and irritating: it is an antihuman and therefore evil ideology. Anyone who takes it seriously is a potential maniac.

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/09/james-jay-lee-e.html

BucEyedPea
09-03-2010, 09:15 AM
NSF gives grants to all types of research. This wasn't a direct stimulus payment to the Penn State researcher. Are you arguing that climate change shouldn't be studied?

He may not, but I would. Govt money for scientific research is bogus. Their minds should be free and independent of politics. Govt funded research benefits scientists more than society. Look at how the scientists are fighting over the scraps of money due to cuts in England. Go to science sites and see how they make a political case about how cuts will devastate society. Lol. The 19th century was the age of invention long before govt crowded out scientific research.