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Jilly
01-20-2010, 04:23 PM
Been reading some blogs today from fellow pastors/minister types...ran across a church with this as it's slogan:

"Radical Protestants: Nailing Shit to the Church Door Since 1517"

http://images9.cafepress.com/product/384344119v11_350x350_Back_Color-BlueWhite.jpg

It's obviously a very different type of church, trying to reach urban postmodern young adults..... I'm probably opening a can of worms, but what do you think? Too much, too little? Has it's place?

Jenson71
01-20-2010, 04:28 PM
Is that an endorsement? Besides, it's probably not even true.

Jilly
01-21-2010, 12:27 PM
Is that an endorsement? Besides, it's probably not even true.

I'm not endorsing them at all.....I just was curious if it goes too far?

Jenson71
01-21-2010, 12:28 PM
I'm not endorsing them at all.....I just was curious if it goes too far?

I know you're not. I am wondering if that's an endorsement for themselves.

Cannibal
01-21-2010, 12:31 PM
Im not religious at all. But I think that shirt way out of place.

Garcia Bronco
01-21-2010, 12:42 PM
Been reading some blogs today from fellow pastors/minister types...ran across a church with this as it's slogan:

"Radical Protestants: Nailing Shit to the Church Door Since 1517"

http://images9.cafepress.com/product/384344119v11_350x350_Back_Color-BlueWhite.jpg

It's obviously a very different type of church, trying to reach urban postmodern young adults..... I'm probably opening a can of worms, but what do you think? Too much, too little? Has it's place?

It's not different.

It's what the Martin Luther had to do to fight the Church. It does not go too far and describes the Reformation, a response to the corruption of the Catholic Church


"Martin Luther (10 November 1483 18 February 1546) initiated the Protestant Reformation (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/wiki/Protestant_Reformation).<SUP id=cite_ref-Plass_0-0 class=reference>[1] (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/#cite_note-Plass-0)</SUP> As a priest (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/wiki/Priest) and theology (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/wiki/Theologian#Christian_Theology) professor, he confronted indulgence (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/wiki/Indulgence) salesman Johann Tetzel (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/wiki/Johann_Tetzel) with his The Ninety-Five Theses (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/wiki/The_Ninety-Five_Theses) in 1517."

Taco John
01-21-2010, 12:48 PM
I love it.

vailpass
01-21-2010, 12:53 PM
As a Catholic I think it is fine if that sort of thing appeals to someone. I take my church seriously as an environment in which to worship and send my children for education and would not want to be represented in that way.

Radar Chief
01-21-2010, 12:54 PM
Sounds like Straight Edgers. I ran into some of those douche bags back in the 90s. Seemed to me like just another excuse to be asshole gang members.

Garcia Bronco
01-21-2010, 12:57 PM
It's historically accurate...I'm just sayin'

Cannibal
01-21-2010, 01:00 PM
Sounds like Straight Edgers. I ran into some of those douche bags back in the 90s. Seemed to me like just another excuse to be asshole gang members.

Without the fun! ROFL

Jilly
01-21-2010, 01:44 PM
I think part of my question in this is, how far should one go to make the church "relevant", as they did in the Protestant Reformation. I feel that today we face many of the same issues. WE don't speak in the vernacular, we use music that is sacred to us, but ancient to the world.... see what I'm getting at?

Inspector
01-21-2010, 02:05 PM
I once suggested a church orgy but they just gave me a very strange look.

I'm not very good at coming up with original ideas.

Cannibal
01-21-2010, 02:05 PM
Maybe you should get some church ghangsta rappas.

vailpass
01-21-2010, 02:12 PM
I think part of my question in this is, how far should one go to make the church "relevant", as they did in the Protestant Reformation. I feel that today we face many of the same issues. WE don't speak in the vernacular, we use music that is sacred to us, but ancient to the world.... see what I'm getting at?

We have guitar, drums, keyboard during teen mass. At regular mass we have guitar. To me (and lots of others maybe you included) music is a way of lifting a joyful voice to the Lord.
As to how far we go to make the curch relevant, IMHO it starts with raising the children to know the church. They are the strongest foundation upon which to build. Then we show our message of love and inclusion to the world by our works and our deeds; letting those whom the Lord sends come to us as they will. Once they come we make sure they find a welcoming community who values them as God's own.

Cannibal
01-21-2010, 02:15 PM
Hire this group for your congregation.

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Radar Chief
01-21-2010, 02:16 PM
Without the fun! ROFL

Ah, you know the guys I'm talking about. ;)

Taco John
01-21-2010, 02:35 PM
Hire this group for your congregation.

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It's pretty awesome if you see it as satire. In fact, it kind of makes you want to dance.

Brock
01-21-2010, 02:36 PM
That's embarrassing.

Cannibal
01-21-2010, 02:38 PM
That's embarrassing.

ROFL You're so right.

Taco John
01-21-2010, 02:41 PM
That's embarrassing.

Somebody needs a side hug.

Cannibal
01-21-2010, 02:42 PM
Somebody needs a side hug.

First post of yours I've ever laughed at I think. ROFL