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Bootlegged
01-28-2010, 07:19 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/28/dem-sources-senate-fix-for-obamacare-could-add-another-300-billion-to-price-tag/


posted at 7:33 pm on January 28, 2010 by Allahpundit
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The bill in its original form was projected as costing $849 billion over 10 years. Slap on another $300 billion in programs added via reconciliation to placate Pelosi and youíre now talking about a bill in excess of the magical $1 trillion mark.

Of course, thatís only if you use ReidMath. If you use real-world math, where you start counting when the bill finally kicks in instead of five years before that, the original cost is Ö $2.5 trillion.

And really now. When you look at it that way, whatís another 300 bil on top of that?

ABC Newsí Rick Klein and Jonathan Karl report: The renewed optimism voiced by some Democrats over the prospects of passing a health care bill may be just a little premature.

Though House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is saying she thinks she can pass the Senate version of the health care bill if the House and Senate can agree on changes by using the budget process, the price tag for those changes could approach $300 billion, Democratic sources tell ABC News. Thatís a figure thatís likely to give moderate Democrats sticker shock.

Speaking of reconciliation, Hugh Hewittís been teasing an interview with Jon Kyl where apparently heíll say that the Senate has finally decided to pull the trigger and go for it. I tried waiting for the transcript, but who knows when itíll be up. Hewittís teaser sounds pretty certain, though. Headline: ďThe Zombie Health Care Bill Is Out Of Its Grave.Ē

Senator Jon Kyl relays reports Ėvery reliable reports according to KylĖ that Congressional Democrats have indeed decided to use reconciliation to resurrect the remains of Obamacare, despite Massachusetts, despite the publicís continuing and still growing dislike of the bill, and despite the jam-down ultra-partisanship such a naked power play and perversion of Senate rules that such an approach entails. I will interview Kyl in the second hour, and a transcript will be posted shortly thereafter.

Whatís odd about this is that both Landrieu and Mark Pryor made it sound this morning like the bill was in coma and on the verge of death. Any reason to believe them instead of Kyl? Well, Kylís claim could simply be a feint aimed at goosing conservatives into launching a hopefully final salvo against the bill and finishing it off. But Pelosi sounded a bit more confident than usual last night. Whoís lying? And who are the lucky 50 who are going to have to swallow hard and vote for a bill thatís likely to be hundreds of billions of dollars more expensive than the public was told?

Exit quotation: ďThere wasnít much discussion about the implications if the thing went the other way.Ē

Update: Hereís the Hewitt transcript. Sounds serious this time.

HH: Itís remarkable, but letís get to the news of the day. There is some talk that the Democrats are going to try reconciliation, a jam down of their bitterly divisive, and almost certainly wrong-headed health care plan. What can you tell us about this?

JK: This is kind of breaking news. As you say, weíre just hearing it. We havenít been formally advised, but we have it on relatively good authority. And this would be what they call the nuclear option. This would be we canít do it with 60 votes, because now we have a new Senator from Massachusetts, so weíll do it with 51. Now itís called the nuclear option, because it really upsets all of the tradition and precedent within the Senate which on a really big bill on the magnitude of health care, would always have strong bipartisan support, and therefore the 60 vote requirement really doesnít matter. But here, using an arcane part of the budget that ordinarily relates to tax cuts or tax increases, it doesnít relate to comprehensive bills with a lot of substantive provisions in them, but just changes in the tax code, usually. Theyíre going to try to rewrite this bill to, where it would only need 51 votes, and still accomplish most of what the bill will accomplish. Now what this will do is let the Blanche Lincolns and Ben Nelsons and Evan Bayhs and other to say oh, I canít go along with this now. And of course, thatís exactly what their constituents want to hear. But it doesnít matter, because their votes in effect at this point donít count. They donít matter. All it takes is 51 Democrats to vote for it, and it becomes law. It remains to be seen how long the process will take, and whether, and how much of the provisions of the comprehensive health care reform that weíve been looking at can be scooped up into this legislation. But it now appears the Democrats are going to try that.

Saul Good
01-28-2010, 08:20 PM
Won't happen. I kind of hope they try, though. It would destroy the Democrats.

The Mad Crapper
03-10-2010, 04:00 PM
Reconciliation cannot be used on a bill: it can only be invoked on an existing law.

This thing crashes and burns on the runway.

googlegoogle
03-10-2010, 04:07 PM
Reconciliation cannot be used on a bill: it can only be invoked on an existing law.

This thing crashes and burns on the runway.

Just an act for their electorate.