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Jenson71
02-05-2010, 06:13 PM
This weekend is the Tea Part Convention in Nashville, TN.

Tom Tancredo was an opening speaker. Along with saying that Obama was a committed socialist ideologue, he said that had McCain been elected, things would have been going down the same path, and he implied it might be even worse because there wouldn't be a tea party movement.

And who's the keynote speaker?

McCain's vice president.

Should be interesting to see.

Official website: http://www.nationalteapartyconvention.com/home.aspx

Reaper16
02-05-2010, 06:21 PM
Man, I went to join the Tea Party cuz I can get down with some tea, knowwhaImean? Then they're all "Boston Tea Party, blah blah, throw tea in the ocean, blah" and I'm like bitch you wasted a lot of goddamndelicious tea. More like the Anti-Tea Party. 's some shameful shit.

whatsmynameagain
02-05-2010, 06:37 PM
This weekend is the Tea Part Convention in Nashville, TN.

Tom Tancredo was an opening speaker. Along with saying that Obama was a committed socialist ideologue, he said that had McCain been elected, things would have been going down the same path, and he implied it might be even worse because there wouldn't be a tea party movement.

And who's the keynote speaker?

McCain's vice president.

Should be interesting to see.

shes not benefitting financially from speaking but is getting paid 100k. the tea party could be good if it wasnt all the fring. they are the people that brought you, "keep your socialist hands off my medicare" =)
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BucEyedPea
02-05-2010, 06:38 PM
Man, I went to join the Tea Party cuz I can get down with some tea, knowwhaImean? Then they're all "Boston Tea Party, blah blah, throw tea in the ocean, blah" and I'm like bitch you wasted a lot of goddamndelicious tea. More like the Anti-Tea Party. 's some shameful shit.

Haven't you tried Bubble Tea yet?

http://video.about.com/chinesefood/How-to-Make-Cold-Bubble-Tea.htm

BucEyedPea
02-05-2010, 06:39 PM
shes not benefitting financially from speaking but is getting paid 100k. the tea party could be good if it wasnt all the fring. they are the people that brought you, "keep your socialist hands off my medicare" =)
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Yesterday you socialists were called the fringe. Today freedom lovers are called the fringe.

whatsmynameagain
02-05-2010, 06:51 PM
Yesterday you socialists were called the fringe. Today freedom lovers are called the fringe.

are you kidding me? a turds a turd not matter the shape or size. ive seen these idiots in action, they have no objective besides saying, we want our country back. back from a black man? they are the easily manipulated retards that have a low double digit IQ. where were these morons over the last 8 years? you idiots are letting palin represent you, enough said now gtf over it, you lost the election and its your fault. if you idiots didnt put bush in power there wouldnt have been this reaction. obama aint done shit yet and has been extremely centrist. they had total control for almost a year and what did they accomplish with this power? they sure as hell didnt abuse it. im fed up with all these assholes but to think the tea party represents anything other than more of the same, you are delusioned.
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orange
02-05-2010, 06:57 PM
Haven't you tried Bubble Tea yet?

http://video.about.com/chinesefood/How-to-Make-Cold-Bubble-Tea.htm

Interesting. I'm not a fan of tea with milk or sweetener, though. I think I'll pass. And someone should tell Gretchen to just relax and talk. She's so uptight she could be a ChiefsPlanet poster.

Reaper16
02-05-2010, 07:51 PM
Haven't you tried Bubble Tea yet?

http://video.about.com/chinesefood/How-to-Make-Cold-Bubble-Tea.htm
Of course I've had bubble tea; I'm the<s> food</s> <s>beer</s> flavor snob around here.

BucEyedPea
02-05-2010, 08:12 PM
are you kidding me? a turds a turd not matter the shape or size. ive seen these idiots in action, they have no objective besides saying, we want our country back. back from a black man? they are the easily manipulated retards that have a low double digit IQ. where were these morons over the last 8 years? you idiots are letting palin represent you, enough said now gtf over it, you lost the election and its your fault. if you idiots didnt put bush in power there wouldnt have been this reaction. obama aint done shit yet and has been extremely centrist. they had total control for almost a year and what did they accomplish with this power? they sure as hell didnt abuse it. im fed up with all these assholes but to think the tea party represents anything other than more of the same, you are delusioned.
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Whether something is a turd or not is a matter of opinion. I don't let Palin represent me nor was I a Bush supporter. If you think Obama is centrist, then it tells me how far left you are. That affects how one view things.....so it's all relative.

Now if you don't mind I am going to enjoy some Bubble Tea through a thick straw!

whatsmynameagain
02-05-2010, 09:41 PM
Whether something is a turd or not is a matter of opinion. I don't let Palin represent me nor was I a Bush supporter. If you think Obama is centrist, then it tells me how far left you are. That affects how one view things.....so it's all relative.

Now if you don't mind I am going to enjoy some Bubble Tea through a thick straw!

please tell me something extremely liberal he has done that has changed this country.
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Chocolate Hog
02-05-2010, 09:43 PM
The "Tea Party" will be over whenever a Republican is elected even though it will be a big goverment Republican, because really there is no difference between the 2 parties when it comes to the role of government.

whatsmynameagain
02-05-2010, 10:25 PM
The "Tea Party" will be over whenever a Republican is elected even though it will be a big goverment Republican, because really there is no difference between the 2 parties when it comes to the role of government.

ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

im curious what people think of alan grayson from florida. the guy has great experience and a no nonsense attitude. already rich so special interests cant corrupt him as easily. he is a glimmer of hope
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VAChief
02-05-2010, 11:02 PM
As long as they cheer the likes of Tom Tancredo at their rallies it will be a little difficult getting better traction with the mainstream. He makes chickenhawks like Bush and Cheney look like Sgt. York. That said, I do believe we need something different, just not some self righteous hypocrite.

HonestChieffan
02-06-2010, 06:39 AM
The only identy they need is voter turn out. Dont underestimate the anger and frustration of the real folks all across the country.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PxZyE6Jgabo/S21qQBBKhCI/AAAAAAAARHk/DBuucvgfHnk/s400/theo4.gif

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 06:59 AM
please tell me something extremely liberal he has done that has changed this country.
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I didn't say he was a liberal. I just said he wasn't centrist. He's a leftist—spend, spend, spend, took over big auto, cash for clunkers, his SC nominee and his health care bill. But you know a president has to get congress to go along and they're not fully on board with what he'd like to do—not even all Ds.

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 07:00 AM
The "Tea Party" will be over whenever a Republican is elected even though it will be a big goverment Republican, because really there is no difference between the 2 parties when it comes to the role of government.

I agree. Because it's practical.:spock:

NewChief
02-06-2010, 08:32 AM
The "Tea Party" will be over whenever a Republican is elected even though it will be a big goverment Republican, because really there is no difference between the 2 parties when it comes to the role of government.

I agree with this. The movement has been co-opted by the Republican party as a partisan force to put them back into power. Once a Republican gets back into office, the movement will die a quite death (though I think that the libertarian element of the movement will continue to march on... just not with the same energy and huge base that's developed in the current Tea Party). It's -very- similar to the Change/Hope movement that put Obama into power. That movement has completely lost its energy now because: 1) it achieved its initial goal and 2) the utopian projections of Hope/Change haven't magically occurred and disillusionment quickly set in.

To use another metaphor: when a small business makes a deal with Wal-Mart, they often see a huge upswing in profits. Then Wal-Mart turns on them and starts to suck them dry, often discarding them later to run their own proprietary brand that competes directly with the smaller business. The smaller business had become dependent on Wal-Mart at that point, and when Wal-Mart removes their support, the smaller business crumbles. Wal-Mart is the GOP and the Tea Party is the small business making a deal with the devil.

notorious
02-06-2010, 08:34 AM
please tell me something extremely liberal he has done that has changed this country.
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Wow.

With any problem in this country he has thrown money, or tried to throw money at the problem.


He needs to let the American people get this thing back on track, not use the government's power and the public's money to force it back on track.

Liberal or Conservative, doesn't matter. Spending money we don't have is about the stupidest thing I have ever seen, next to looking in the mirror :).

whatsmynameagain
02-06-2010, 10:59 AM
Wow.

With any problem in this country he has thrown money, or tried to throw money at the problem.


He needs to let the American people get this thing back on track, not use the government's power and the public's money to force it back on track.

Liberal or Conservative, doesn't matter. Spending money we don't have is about the stupidest thing I have ever seen, next to looking in the mirror :).

i agree with you but its status quo, either way the tit will be milked. the tea party wants its milk back
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Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:08 PM
Sarah Palin hails Scott Brown as largely representing what the Tea Party movement is all about.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:22 PM
Palin says we need a foreign policy that distinguishes our friends from our allies, and we need a stronger defense. Less talk, more action.

The Ron Paul aspect of the Tea Party has been completely raped. It's no longer an ideological movement. It's a Republican movement. Will the libertarians strike back?

Chocolate Hog
02-06-2010, 07:24 PM
Palin says we need a foreign policy that distinguishes our friends from our allies, and we need a stronger defense. Less talk, more action.

The Ron Paul aspect of the Tea Party has been completely raped. It's no longer an ideological movement. It's a Republican movement. Will the libertarians strike back?

Whered you see this at?

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:25 PM
Whered you see this at?

Her speech is on msnbc right now.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:45 PM
Palin in the same breath talking about the movement being anti-Washington and partly about children with disabilities.

No mention of the Harkin led Americans with Disabilities Act.

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 07:48 PM
Whered you see this at?

I feel dirty for agreeing with Jenson, but I'm thinking that the tea-party movement may just be being raped afterall by the Neo-Cons. There was something about it on Lew's site.
These guys are very dishonest....if they are hijacking it's to trap us all into voting for another Establishment type.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:49 PM
"The Republican party would be very smart to absorb the Tea Party movement as much as possible," says Palin (paraphrased).

Ya, good job Sarah.

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 07:50 PM
February 6, 2010
On “Tea-Partying”
Posted by Butler Shaffer on February 6, 2010 03:55 PM

I have been watching bits and snatches of the “Tea Party Convention” on C-SPAN. My initial response is much the same as Gertrude Stein’s impression of Oakland: “There is no there there.”

My suspicion is that this group may be but a neo-con/Establishment inspired effort to neutralize widespread popular disaffection with the political system; to attract attention away from a frontal critique of the state (e.g., Ron Paul, LRC, some Leftist commentators) and into a kind of mushy, make-believe “reform” movement reminiscent of Frank Chodorov’s observation concerning those who want “to clean up the whorehouse, but keep the business intact.” I have thus far heard no principled, fundamental assessment of the state from these tea-partyers, but only a lot of superficial jabber about “taking back America.”

Thats one libertarian observation anyway.

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 07:51 PM
"The Republican party would be very smart to absorb the Tea Party movement as much as possible," says Palin (paraphrased).

Ya, good job Sarah.

From a political standpoint, only, she is right. It's a way to get votes.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:51 PM
I feel dirty for agreeing with Jenson, but I'm thinking that the tea-party movement may just be being raped afterall by the Neo-Cons. There was something about it on Lew's site.
These guys are very dishonest....if they are hijacking it's to trap us all into voting for another Establishment type.

Yeah, this is a tool for the Republicans. Tonight's speech was an attack on leading Democrats, a praise of Ronald Reagan, and a defense for military spending.

Another words, it was a 2008 Republican campaign speech.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:53 PM
From a political standpoint, only, she is right. It's a way to get votes.

Absolutely. Sarah Palin is a figurehead of the established Republican party. She is a vote getter.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:53 PM
Palin: "Lame-stream media"

Oh, she's good. SHE IS GOOOODDDD.

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 07:55 PM
Well, yeah, I gotta agree with her on that....that is really GOOOODDDD!

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 07:56 PM
Palin makes her first remarks about independent voters and the Republican party. "Todd isn't a Republican."

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 07:56 PM
Absolutely. Sarah Palin is a figurehead of the established Republican party. She is a vote getter.

They're all whores but there's usually exceptions.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 08:00 PM
"President Palin"

Whole crowd cheers. Starting chanting.

"Run Sarah! Run Sarah!"

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 08:03 PM
It's on CSPAN (1) as well.

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 08:05 PM
"We're going to take back Congress and take back the White House" says speaker.

Who is?

Haha.

Raped.

dirk digler
02-06-2010, 08:07 PM
Who called her President Palin?

BucEyedPea
02-06-2010, 08:08 PM
Maybe she'll change it to Czarina after Obama....afterall Rs never roll anything back in govt!

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 08:09 PM
Who called her President Palin?

The interviewer in the Question and Answer session said something like, "Two words that every liberal fears: President Palin...." Then everyone cheered, then chanted "Run, Sarah, Run!"

dirk digler
02-06-2010, 08:11 PM
The interviewer in the Question and Answer session said something like, "Two words that every liberal fears: President Palin...." Then everyone cheered, then chanted "Run, Sarah, Run!"

I hope she does run.

VAChief
02-06-2010, 08:11 PM
Maybe she'll change it to Czarina after Obama....afterall Rs never roll anything back in govt!

Only after "Putin raises his head"...

Jenson71
02-06-2010, 08:18 PM
I hope she does run.

I really have no idea what 2012 will turn out to look like.

Reaper16
02-06-2010, 08:37 PM
I really have no idea what 2012 will turn out to look like.
Like the John Cusack vehicle at this rate.

Warrior5
02-06-2010, 08:44 PM
Yeah, this is a tool for the Republicans. Tonight's speech was an attack on leading Democrats, a praise of Ronald Reagan, and a defense for military spending.

Agreed, but I heard her also speak about reforming healthcare insurance, creating jobs, and developing alternative energy sources.

NewChief
02-06-2010, 09:14 PM
God. I'm like a fucking prophet.

HolmeZz
02-06-2010, 09:16 PM
Palin: "We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a Professor of Law."

I'm not sure which part of that statement hurts my brain more: the idea there's mutual exclusivity or the implication that being a Professor of Law is somehow a detriment to being President of the United States.

It's hard to fathom how you can spend the a good chunk of your speech talking about how politicians need to uphold the Constitution and then you just take a rhetorical dump on the fact our President is a LAW PROFESSOR. The logic is undeniably flawed and borderline retarded, and I get the impression the irony is lost on Palin and all the dunderheads who value the things she has to say.

Chocolate Hog
02-06-2010, 09:21 PM
I'd vote for Obama before I would vote for Palin.

go bowe
02-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Palin: "We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a Professor of Law."

I'm not sure which part of that statement hurts my brain more: the idea there's mutual exclusivity or the implication that being a Professor of Law is somehow a detriment to being President of the United States.

It's hard to fathom how you can spend the a good chunk of your speech talking about how politicians need to uphold the Constitution and then you just take a rhetorical dump on the fact our President is a LAW PROFESSOR. The logic is undeniably flawed and borderline retarded, and I get the impression the irony is lost on Palin and all the dunderheads who value the things she has to say.dunderheads...

dunderheads, tee hee hee...

one more time, dunderheads!!!1!!

SNR
02-06-2010, 10:22 PM
Palin says we need a foreign policy that distinguishes our friends from our allies, and we need a stronger defense. Less talk, more action.

The Ron Paul aspect of the Tea Party has been completely raped. It's no longer an ideological movement. It's a Republican movement. Will the libertarians strike back?Yep. 1000 times yes. Glenn Beck tied it to the radiator and Sarah Palin has officially raped it.

I saw no difference between the bullshit she was saying this evening and Michael Steele's platform for the party.

Norman Einstein
02-07-2010, 05:51 AM
are you kidding me? a turds a turd not matter the shape or size. ive seen these idiots in action, they have no objective besides saying, we want our country back. back from a black man? they are the easily manipulated retards that have a low double digit IQ. where were these morons over the last 8 years? you idiots are letting palin represent you, enough said now gtf over it, you lost the election and its your fault. if you idiots didnt put bush in power there wouldnt have been this reaction. obama aint done shit yet and has been extremely centrist. they had total control for almost a year and what did they accomplish with this power? they sure as hell didnt abuse it. im fed up with all these assholes but to think the tea party represents anything other than more of the same, you are delusioned.
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LOOK EVERYBODY, THE TURD SHOWED UP AND HE'S RIGHT, HE IS A TURD!

Norman Einstein
02-07-2010, 05:54 AM
i agree with you but its status quo, either way the tit will be milked. the tea party wants its milk back
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Apples and oranged dude.

Norman Einstein
02-07-2010, 05:57 AM
I really have no idea what 2012 will turn out to look like.

That is the first, ever, honest comment I've seen you post. Too bad we all know it will be shortilved.

Norman Einstein
02-07-2010, 06:06 AM
Palin: "We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a Professor of Law."

I'm not sure which part of that statement hurts my brain more: the idea there's mutual exclusivity or the implication that being a Professor of Law is somehow a detriment to being President of the United States.

It's hard to fathom how you can spend the a good chunk of your speech talking about how politicians need to uphold the Constitution and then you just take a rhetorical dump on the fact our President is a LAW PROFESSOR. The logic is undeniably flawed and borderline retarded, and I get the impression the irony is lost on Palin and all the dunderheads who value the things she has to say.

I'd vote for Obama before I would vote for Palin.

I would have no trouble voting for Palin. I don't agree with many of her stands regarding the way things should be or what the government should be doing, but I have far less of a problem with her than I do with Obama.

As for the Professor, I think he might be more like the Professor on Gilligan's Island. A lot of talk but he wasn't smart enough to build a boat and get them off the island.

Our Professor's understanding of the constitution seems to be suspect as he has gone around the constitution on occasion. See Czars. He also doesn't seem to have much of a problem with some of the freedoms we have. Freedom to choose the path we want, not the one he wants. He is a singular thinking professor(president), what he wants goes. It's also called narcissism.

patteeu
02-07-2010, 08:29 AM
I agree with this. The movement has been co-opted by the Republican party as a partisan force to put them back into power. Once a Republican gets back into office, the movement will die a quite death (though I think that the libertarian element of the movement will continue to march on... just not with the same energy and huge base that's developed in the current Tea Party). It's -very- similar to the Change/Hope movement that put Obama into power. That movement has completely lost its energy now because: 1) it achieved its initial goal and 2) the utopian projections of Hope/Change haven't magically occurred and disillusionment quickly set in.

To use another metaphor: when a small business makes a deal with Wal-Mart, they often see a huge upswing in profits. Then Wal-Mart turns on them and starts to suck them dry, often discarding them later to run their own proprietary brand that competes directly with the smaller business. The smaller business had become dependent on Wal-Mart at that point, and when Wal-Mart removes their support, the smaller business crumbles. Wal-Mart is the GOP and the Tea Party is the small business making a deal with the devil.

With analogy language like "suck them dry" and "deal with the devil" aside, this is the way the two party system is supposed to work, folks. A dissatisfied minority builds up enough political clout and one of the parties moves in that direction to drain the upstart of some energy. The other possibility, that the upstart will strip away enough of one party's support to replace that party is far less likely to happen, IMO.

The difference I see between Obama's hope and change people and the tea party people is that the tea party people seem to be semi-united on a low tax, small government ideology whereas the hope and change movement was based on personality and a tabula rasa candidate.

Saul Good
02-07-2010, 08:33 AM
Is this what our liberal friends mean when they talk about a circle jerk?

patteeu
02-07-2010, 08:33 AM
Palin: "We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a Professor of Law."

I'm not sure which part of that statement hurts my brain more: the idea there's mutual exclusivity or the implication that being a Professor of Law is somehow a detriment to being President of the United States.

It's hard to fathom how you can spend the a good chunk of your speech talking about how politicians need to uphold the Constitution and then you just take a rhetorical dump on the fact our President is a LAW PROFESSOR. The logic is undeniably flawed and borderline retarded, and I get the impression the irony is lost on Palin and all the dunderheads who value the things she has to say.

I'm know which part hurts my brain more: the idea that we have a Professor of Law to any greater degree than we have a Commander-in-Chief. Sure, he had the title (although I don't really think he was a full Professor), but as with the CinC title, it doesn't mean he's got the chops.

Liz Cheney's quote was better:

“America needs a commander in chief, not a global community organizer.” - Liz Cheney

patteeu
02-07-2010, 08:36 AM
Is this what our liberal friends mean when they talk about a circle jerk?

I haven't had time to read through the whole thread this morning so I don't know. Surely they wouldn't behave the same way they criticize others for behaving though so I'm sure it's not.

BucEyedPea
02-07-2010, 08:44 AM
I haven't had time to read through the whole thread this morning so I don't know. Surely they wouldn't behave the same way they criticize others for behaving though so I'm sure it's not.

Well you outta know. Kinda like your fabricating my using a certain quote something like 18 times when it's been about 3-4 times. Oh the irony!

morphius
02-07-2010, 08:47 AM
It would be darn nice if they could have someone other than Palin, ugh.

patteeu
02-07-2010, 08:56 AM
Well you outta know. Kinda like your fabricating my using a certain quote something like 18 times when it's been about 2-4 times. Oh the irony!

I actually counted them when I figured out it was a fabrication. I thought there were 17 at the time and the recent episode would make it 18. I just looked back at my notes and I only had 15 documented so it's possible that the recent example was only the 16th. If so, I apologize for crediting you with 2 more than I should have. 2-4 times is laughable though. So I'll amend my charge from "18 times" to "at least 16 times".

I'm not sure what this has to do with this thread though so let's not sidetrack this thread with that topic. Next week I'm going to start a thread about your use of the fabricated quote where we can hash this out. I'll include my documentation of all the times you've tried to peddle this Ron Paul lie. Don't bother trying to delete posts to cover your tracks because I've already got the evidence offline. Be sure to find that book so you can see for yourself that there is no defense for Ron Paul's dishonesty here.

alanm
02-07-2010, 09:55 AM
It would be darn nice if they could have someone other than Palin, ugh. Preferably someone who isn't a f*cking lawyer. I'd prefer someone from middle America who has strong common sense and successful at running a business. For once!! Ex military wouldn't hurt either.

RINGLEADER
02-07-2010, 10:41 AM
The more the "tea parties" succeed in carving out a separate identity (i.e., running their own conservative candidates) the more Democrats get elected.

As an "independents" party that sides with the GOP perhaps.

SNR
02-07-2010, 10:51 AM
I actually counted them when I figured out it was a fabrication. I thought there were 17 at the time and the recent episode would make it 18. I just looked back at my notes and I only had 15 documented so it's possible that the recent example was only the 16th. If so, I apologize for crediting you with 2 more than I should have. 2-4 times is laughable though. So I'll amend my charge from "18 times" to "at least 16 times".

I'm not sure what this has to do with this thread though so let's not sidetrack this thread with that topic. Next week I'm going to start a thread about your use of the fabricated quote where we can hash this out. I'll include my documentation of all the times you've tried to peddle this Ron Paul lie. Don't bother trying to delete posts to cover your tracks because I've already got the evidence offline. Be sure to find that book so you can see for yourself that there is no defense for Ron Paul's dishonesty here.I have no idea wtf is going on here

HonestChieffan
02-07-2010, 10:56 AM
I have no idea wtf is going on here

its a spat.

Lots going on otherwise. The Palin hate is an amazing thing to see.

dirk digler
02-07-2010, 10:59 AM
its a spat.

Lots going on otherwise. The Palin hate is an amazing thing to see.

More like a lover's quarrel.

SNR
02-07-2010, 11:02 AM
More like a lover's quarrel.I knew it! It's like Frasier Crane and Lillith Stern. Two exes that can't stand the sight of each other get together one weekend and have mad passionate jungle sex

dirk digler
02-07-2010, 11:09 AM
I knew it! It's like Frasier Crane and Lillith Stern. Two exes that can't stand the sight of each other get together one weekend and have mad passionate jungle sex

LMAO

Saul Good
02-07-2010, 11:42 AM
The more the "tea parties" succeed in carving out a separate identity (i.e., running their own conservative candidates) the more Democrats get elected.

As an "independents" party that sides with the GOP perhaps.

That's not what we've seen in the elections so far.

dirk digler
02-07-2010, 11:46 AM
That's not what we've seen in the elections so far.

It has been split 1-1. They lost up in NY and won in Massachusetts though in Brown's case there wasn't a real 3rd party candidate like there was in NY. I think that is what Ringleader is talking about.

petegz28
02-07-2010, 11:48 AM
It has been split 1-1. They lost up in NY and won in Massachusetts though in Brown's case there wasn't a real 3rd party candidate like there was in NY. I think that is what Ringleader is talking about.

Oh here comes the historical revisions. It is 3-1. They lost in NY and they won Mass. plus Gov seats in NJ and VA. All 3 wins for the Repubs saw Obama stumping for the Dem.

dirk digler
02-07-2010, 11:52 AM
Oh here comes the historical revisions. It is 3-1. They lost in NY and they won Mass. plus Gov seats in NJ and VA. All 3 wins for the Repubs saw Obama stumping for the Dem.

No we are talking about the Tea Party. Brown was the first Tea Party victory.

petegz28
02-07-2010, 11:54 AM
No we are talking about the Tea Party. Brown was the first Tea Party victory.

LMAO, tell yourself whatever you need too.

dirk digler
02-07-2010, 12:03 PM
LMAO, tell yourself whatever you need too.

Go read Ringleader's post again. The Tea Party didn't support any of the candidates in the governor's race. His point is if they run or support a 3rd party candidate against a Rep and a Dem it will split the vote and the Dem wins. ie NY race.

ROYC75
02-07-2010, 12:43 PM
IMHO, There will never be a serious 3rd party again. It splits the country's voters in 3rd's and cause too much unrest in the rest of the voters in America. It will forever remain a 2 party machine with the independents as the swing voters.

The tea party movement will go along with the conservative GOP and if they can generate the independents,conservative and some moderates, so be it. This is what the movement is all about right now.

HonestChieffan
02-07-2010, 02:01 PM
there is no "tea party". Thats what is so incredible about the entire thing. It cannot be defined and pushed one way or the other. It will play well into the republican base and will transform the current moderate weak mccain style republican party back into the strength of a Reagan republican party.

But to say they, meaning the tea party, didnt back a candidate or some such hookum is pure self delusion on the part of some democrats. And those same dems are on thier knees praying for a third party that aint gonna happen.

morphius
02-07-2010, 03:43 PM
Preferably someone who isn't a f*cking lawyer. I'd prefer someone from middle America who has strong common sense and successful at running a business. For once!! Ex military wouldn't hurt either.
Heck, I'd like to see them run for congressional seats and state reps before making a big push for the Presidency. Start off building your base and work your way up.

beer bacon
02-07-2010, 03:53 PM
The whole tea party movement is just bizarre. A whole group of people leading a revolt to keep their oppressors in power. Congratulations you bunch of psychopaths.

beer bacon
02-07-2010, 03:56 PM
Yesterday you socialists were called the fringe. Today freedom lovers are called the fringe.


Truly the freedom lovers are only people that agree with your narrow ideology. That is not at all despicable on your part to co-opt something like a love of freedom and country as something that only applies to the people that agree politically with you and not to a broad swath of this country's population.

beer bacon
02-07-2010, 03:59 PM
The "Tea Party" will be over whenever a Republican is elected even though it will be a big goverment Republican, because really there is no difference between the 2 parties when it comes to the role of government.

The thing about the similarities between the two parties is very true. On the surface I could see myself supporting something like a Tea Party just because it could lead to third parties becoming more powerful in our political process. The problem is that when I actually look at the people actually taking part in it, they are mostly delusional reactionaries or cynics taking advantage of them for material and political gain.

beer bacon
02-07-2010, 04:00 PM
As long as they cheer the likes of Tom Tancredo at their rallies it will be a little difficult getting better traction with the mainstream. He makes chickenhawks like Bush and Cheney look like Sgt. York. That said, I do believe we need something different, just not some self righteous hypocrite.

What, you don't like Tom Tancredo? Next you will be claiming that bringing back Jim Crow laws would be a bad thing!

beer bacon
02-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Palin makes her first remarks about independent voters and the Republican party. "Todd isn't a Republican."

Todd isn't a Republican. He's a secessionist :)

Norman Einstein
02-07-2010, 04:08 PM
Palin makes her first remarks about independent voters and the Republican party. "Todd isn't a Republican."

What does that have to do with anything? There are many married people in the U.S. that are not affiliated with the same political party. IMO that remark was just stupid.

Otter
02-07-2010, 04:09 PM
Proud and loud tea party member here.

BucEyedPea
02-07-2010, 09:18 PM
Todd isn't a Republican. He's a secessionist :)

That's even better!

dirk digler
02-07-2010, 10:10 PM
there is no "tea party". Thats what is so incredible about the entire thing. It cannot be defined and pushed one way or the other. It will play well into the republican base and will transform the current moderate weak mccain style republican party back into the strength of a Reagan republican party.

But to say they, meaning the tea party, didnt back a candidate or some such hookum is pure self delusion on the part of some democrats. And those same dems are on thier knees praying for a third party that aint gonna happen.

:spock: That is why they had a Tea Party National Convention this weekend because they really don't exist. Are you really this stupid in real life or do you just pretend like it on the intranet?

Taco John
02-08-2010, 12:17 AM
Staging a "Tea Party National Convention" is just a way to try to tag onto the grass roots movement. It was bound to happen. They're trying to use it to herd people back into the Republican corrals, when what really needs to happen is the Republicans need to start acting like Republicans.

But it's cute to watch these party stiffs pretend that the movement is all about them and their ideas.

HonestChieffan
02-08-2010, 06:08 AM
:spock: That is why they had a Tea Party National Convention this weekend because they really don't exist. Are you really this stupid in real life or do you just pretend like it on the intranet?

That would be the internet.

dirk digler
02-08-2010, 07:04 AM
That would be the internet.

LMAO Really? Shocking I never would have caught that. :rolleyes:

BigRedChief
02-08-2010, 07:08 AM
Todd isn't a Republican. He's a secessionist :)Didn't they prove he was in the Alaskan secessionist party for 7 years after he said he wasn't even in the party evah?

Jenson71
04-09-2010, 04:20 PM
Introducing . . .

The National Tea Party Federation

Tea parties form a federation, but don't call them organized

The coalition aims to spread the conservative movement's message, respond to critics -- and keep its grass-roots structure.
April 08, 2010|By Kathleen Hennessey

Reporting from Washington — Several major players in the conservative "tea party" movement announced on Thursday a new federation to help spread its message advocating smaller and more decentralized government.

But don't call them organized.

The National Tea Party Federation will issue news releases, respond to critics and help get the word out about tea party rallies and initiatives, organizers said. But they were careful to note it would not change the loose, grass-roots structure of the movement.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/08/nation/la-na-tea-federation9-2010apr09

Taco John
04-09-2010, 04:50 PM
LOL!

Herding cats.

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6011/herding20cats.jpg

ClevelandBronco
04-09-2010, 06:02 PM
Man, I went to join the Tea Party cuz I can get down with some tea, knowwhaImean? Then they're all "Boston Tea Party, blah blah, throw tea in the ocean, blah" and I'm like bitch you wasted a lot of goddamndelicious tea. More like the Anti-Tea Party. 's some shameful shit.

Are you channeling Mitch Hedberg?

Calcountry
04-10-2010, 04:51 AM
are you kidding me? a turds a turd not matter the shape or size. ive seen these idiots in action, they have no objective besides saying, we want our country back. back from a black man? they are the easily manipulated retards that have a low double digit IQ. where were these morons over the last 8 years? you idiots are letting palin represent you, enough said now gtf over it, you lost the election and its your fault. if you idiots didnt put bush in power there wouldnt have been this reaction. obama aint done shit yet and has been extremely centrist. they had total control for almost a year and what did they accomplish with this power? they sure as hell didnt abuse it. im fed up with all these assholes but to think the tea party represents anything other than more of the same, you are delusioned.
Posted via Mobile DeviceWow, and you call us delusional. ROFLROFLROFL

Calcountry
04-10-2010, 04:53 AM
please tell me something extremely liberal he has done that has changed this country.
Posted via Mobile DeviceDude, put down the crack pipe, I know, reality can be a very hard thing to deal with, but please.

kcfanXIII
04-10-2010, 04:01 PM
are you kidding me? a turds a turd not matter the shape or size. ive seen these idiots in action, they have no objective besides saying, we want our country back. back from a black man? they are the easily manipulated retards that have a low double digit IQ. where were these morons over the last 8 years? you idiots are letting palin represent you, enough said now gtf over it, you lost the election and its your fault. if you idiots didnt put bush in power there wouldnt have been this reaction. obama aint done shit yet and has been extremely centrist. they had total control for almost a year and what did they accomplish with this power? they sure as hell didnt abuse it. im fed up with all these assholes but to think the tea party represents anything other than more of the same, you are delusioned.
Posted via Mobile Device

you are the one being fooled by the false left right paradigm. that makes you the easily manipulated retard. which i prefer the shorter version of sheeple. which means your boyfriend, or your vegan wife (which is would explain why you are such a pussy, you know, men need meat) is probably a member of the flock as well, which would make you a sheep fucker. i'd say shoot yourself, but that would be a waste of a bullet. i'd say drink antifreeze, but i'm sure there's a cat somewhere that could use it. so why don't you try ramming your life partners dick, or the ol' lady's strap on, down your throat untill you choke yourself out.

see? i can be insulting while adding nothing to the conversation as well.