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Count Zarth
02-10-2010, 03:08 PM
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<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">In every lifetime, there are moments we never forget - friendships and relationships, births and deaths, and political or historical incidents. We can all think back to certain moments when we realized how precious and fragile life can be, how it affects everything around us.
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At an early age, the Chiefs became a central part of my life, and like all young fans growing up, I idolized their gridiron heroes. That player who stood out among those heroes was Derrick Thomas.

I grew up in a family that is completely immersed in Chiefs football. I had the Chiefs winter coat, lucky red and gold socks, Chiefs backpack, and autographed pictures of the local sports heroes who ruled Arrowhead. My entire family would gather for Chiefs playoffs games, discuss football at traditional holiday dinners, and share the season tickets that my grandfather purchased when the Chiefs came to town in 1963. This all still continues to this day.

At school, the Chiefs were just as big as they were for me back home. Thomas made an effort to reach out, teaching both sportsmanship and education to his young fans through his charitable foundation. My school had a special connection to him, and held a joint fundraiser every year. The day after the fundraiser, children who attended with their parents were fortunate enough to ride around Kansas City with Thomas in his limousine. The day after the event, students would brag that they had hung out with Thomas.

Thomas made frequent visits to schools with K.C. Wolf, including mine. His appearances definitely overshadowed Elvis Grbac’s. Thomas stayed after the pep assemblies to sign autographs and take pictures with the students and faculty, making an effort to be like one of us.

In a way, he was. To everybody at my school and in my family, he wasn’t Derrick Thomas. He was just Derrick.

Thomas was the embodiment of the Chiefs off the field with charitable and generous visits, earning him the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award in 1993. On the field he was a powerful force worthy of myth and his Hall of Fame bust in Canton. From his seven-sack game against Seattle in 1990 to his Monday night meltdown against Denver, Derrick was passionate. That heart showed itself in school gymnasiums and classrooms.

Detractors point to his personal life and ethics, but like every human being, Thomas was mortal. His eventually fatal car accident came as a complete shock not only to the city, but the entire football world. Someone who we all thought was immortal was brought back down to Earth. Thomas’ accident proved that we’re neither perfect nor invincible, and we learned a valuable lesson about vehicle safety.

It was a cold, damp Tuesday on February 8, 2000 when Thomas passed. I remember coming back from the lunchroom at school, and my sixth grade teacher was sitting at her desk with tears streaming down her face.

“Derrick’s gone,” she said. We all knew who she was talking about, because he was our friend. He was one of us. She didn’t teach for the rest of the day, rather speaking to us about road safety and our fondest memories of Chiefs football. The next day, the entire school encouraged us to wear red and gold rather than our generic school uniforms.

Derrick Thomas had a special connection to Kansas City, the Chiefs, and his young fans. He taught us all that life is genuinely precious and should never be taken for granted. Game film and pictures capture his aura, and like all moments in history, they will stick with us forever. From the bandana to the big smile, Derrick was one of us.

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Hog Farmer
02-10-2010, 03:18 PM
I'll never forget the day Thomas passed. I cut the tag out of my favorite Boars ear and rettaged him.

"58"

Halfcan
02-10-2010, 04:25 PM
man he was a good guy-I miss him!

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 04:34 PM
DT will forever remain my favorite football player of all time. He was the embodiment of what everyone, on and off the gridiron should strive to be. I remember that day like it was yesterday. My pops called me at home and told me the news and I just broke down. I lost a hero. I never wore a seatbelt before that day. I have never stepped foot in a car without wearing one since. I think you for that and hope youre having fun on the field in the sky. RIP

pr_capone
02-10-2010, 04:42 PM
He was the embodiment of what everyone, on and off the gridiron should strive to be.

He was incredible on the field and did a lot of great things off the field in terms of philanthropy but let's not get carried away.


What Peterson neglected to point out was what kind of decisions Thomas made in the last 15 years. He did not point out that Thomas has seven children with five different women, none of whom was his wife. His children live in Miami, Kansas City and Lawrence, Kan. In praising Thomas's many charitable acts, the eulogies omitted the personal discipline that should accompany bringing life into the world.

Thomas was a surrogate father to many children but was not a father to his own children. He spent Christmas handing out gifts to poor kids, but he wasn't around to offer solace for his own kids. Yet this is the man who was given a trunk-load of awards, praised as a man to be emulated.

Some might contend his personal life is no one's business. But they are wrong. Those seven children are somebody's business, and they had every right to expect care and concern from their father.

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 04:49 PM
He was incredible on the field and did a lot of great things off the field in terms of philanthropy but let's not get carried away.

Most men do the same stuff. Chris Rock said "youre only as faithful as youre options." Should he have spent Xmas with his family. Sure, but in the NFL they typically take players away from spending holidays with their families. Those are the times when they say they need to be charitable. Like Police for example, that have to work on Christmas. Does that make them a bad parent. No, they are sacrificing for the greater good.

And before anyone says anything, I am not advocating that football players are as important as police nor do I think they do the public services that our police do. Im just saying in certain professions you have to sacrifice.

MahiMike
02-10-2010, 04:51 PM
He was a lotta Baby Daddy's. That's fo sho.

ClevelandBronco
02-10-2010, 04:54 PM
Have there been new developments or is he still dead?

Mojo Jojo
02-10-2010, 04:55 PM
Not so fast. One of our clients was a big sponsor of Third and Long...until after many times DT was late or a no show for events for his "cause". Too much partying at the Shady Lady the night before. A lot of kids were left very disappointed.

DT off the field was a product of good spin.

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 05:01 PM
Oh God, now I have seen it all. This fan base is turning on its greatest player ever, like he was Satan himself. F*** Neil Smith, he went to the Donkos. Now, F*** DT he died. We could have won a Super Bowl or two had he not been selfish and went ahead and died on us.

pr_capone
02-10-2010, 05:06 PM
Most men do the same stuff. Chris Rock said "youre only as faithful as youre options."

Chris Rock is a ****ing comedian, not an expert in the field of social studies. I wonder what other leaders in the field like Robin Williams, Bobcat Goldthwait, and Jerry Seinfield have to say on the matter.

I know now that I should only quote celebrities and possibly posts found on social networking sites in future discussions with you. They are certainly whom I will turn to in the future for lessons on morality.

Should he have spent Xmas with his family. Sure, but in the NFL they typically take players away from spending holidays with their families. Those are the times when they say they need to be charitable. Like Police for example, that have to work on Christmas. Does that make them a bad parent. No, they are sacrificing for the greater good.

You are correct sir. The entire point of my post was to point out that D. Thomas was a dbag because he didn't spend Christmas with his 7 kids from 5 different woman... all which were born while married.

Excellent reading and comprehension skills there.

And before anyone says anything, I am not advocating that football players are as important as police nor do I think they do the public ShamWow!s that our police do. Im just saying in certain professions you have to sacrifice.

So the sacrifice he had to make was to **** women left and right, be a shitty husband, and an absentee father.

AWESOME.

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Chris Rock is a ****ing comedian, not an expert in the field of social studies. I wonder what other leaders in the field like Robin Williams, Bobcat Goldthwait, and Jerry Seinfield have to say on the matter.

I know now that I should only quote celebrities and possibly posts found on social networking sites in future discussions with you. They are certainly whom I will turn to in the future for lessons on morality.



You are correct sir. The entire point of my post was to point out that D. Thomas was a dbag because he didn't spend Christmas with his 7 kids from 5 different woman... all which were born while married.

Excellent reading and comprehension skills there.



So the sacrifice he had to make was to **** women left and right, be a shitty husband, and an absentee father.

AWESOME.

Wow, youre something else. I know now to be only a raging prick when Im talking to you. Cause apparently thats the only thing you can understand and/or retaliate with. STFU and **** off. Douche.

Deberg_1990
02-10-2010, 05:13 PM
He seemed like a decent guy, i loved watching him play, but lets not make a messiah out of him.

Ill never understand hero worshiping of stars and entertainers?

DaneMcCloud
02-10-2010, 05:17 PM
Oh God, now I have seen it all. This fan base is turning on its greatest player ever

Derrick Thomas was NOT the Chiefs "greatest player ever".

F*** Neil Smith, he went to the Donkos.

It's called Free Agency. Neil and his agent tried to get something done during the 1996 season but Peterson wanted to wait until after the season was over. Neil's price was very reasonable until he allowed to seek free agency.

Now, F*** DT he died. We could have won a Super Bowl or two had he not been selfish and went ahead and died on us.

Nonsense.

You're claiming that if DT hadn't died, the Chiefs would have won a Super Bowl or two? When? 2000 under Gunther? No way.

2001 under Vermeil, with TrInt throwing 24 Ints? No way.

2002, when he was 35 years old?

:facepalm:

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 05:18 PM
He seemed like a decent guy, i loved watching him play, but lets not make a messiah out of him.

Ill never understand hero worshiping of stars and entertainers?

Hero may be overkill, but idol to say the least. I never thought he was a God or anything but he was someone I looked up to and respected very much.

DaneMcCloud
02-10-2010, 05:19 PM
He seemed like a decent guy, i loved watching him play, but lets not make a messiah out of him.

Ill never understand hero worshiping of stars and entertainers?

I've mentioned several times that he was frequently at Brothers III and Legs strip clubs and was banging several strippers.

I don't have a problem with that but please, he was just a guy that happened to be a great football player.

His personal life was a mess.

pr_capone
02-10-2010, 05:19 PM
Wow, youre something else. I know now to be only a raging prick when Im talking to you. Cause apparently thats the only thing you can understand and/or retaliate with. STFU and **** off. Douche.

Excellent job deflecting and failing to... well, just failing.

You quote Chris Rock as a source for the expected behavior or a man/husband, then expect to be taken seriously?

I wonder what Dave Chappelle has to say on gay marriage. I'm kinda on the fence with that subject and could use his input.

Oh! I bet Larry the Cable Guy has some DYNAMITE ideas on illegal immigration.

It was a-ok for DT to sluff off his duties as a parent and a husband because Chris fucking Rock said that a man is only as faithful as his options. You are right. My apologies.

Fucking n00b.

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 05:21 PM
Derrick Thomas was NOT the Chiefs "greatest player ever".



It's called Free Agency. Neil and his agent tried to get something done during the 1996 season but Peterson wanted to wait until after the season was over. Neil's price was very reasonable until he allowed to seek free agency.



Nonsense.

You're claiming that if DT hadn't died, the Chiefs would have won a Super Bowl or two? When? 2000 under Gunther? No way.

2001 under Vermeil, with TrInt throwing 24 Ints? No way.

2002, when he was 35 years old?

:facepalm:

Try reading my post there big guy. I was talking as the fan base. Never did I say WE WOULD have won a Super Bowl. And I do believe he gave us a better shot at winning the Super Bowl. Some of the people on this board :shake:

DaneMcCloud
02-10-2010, 05:29 PM
Try reading my post there big guy.

I DID read your post, Douchetard.

I was talking as the fan base.

When has the "fan base" EVER stated that DT's death prevented the Chiefs from winning a Super Bowl?

And who the fuck are you to speak for the "Fan base"?

Never did I say WE WOULD have won a Super Bowl.

Yes, you did.

And BTW, your grammar fucking sucks.

And I do believe he gave us a better shot at winning the Super Bowl.

No shit? Really?

Some of the people on this board :shake:

Some of the people on this board what?

Will tell you to go fuck yourself? Is that what you were trying to say?

Deberg_1990
02-10-2010, 05:36 PM
His personal life was a mess.

Exactly my point. I admire his accomplishments in a Chiefs Uniform.

But just because someone had athletic gifts, has a hit show on TV, or stars in 100m dollar blockbusters, doesnt make them any better than anyone else on this board.

SDChiefs
02-10-2010, 05:54 PM
I DID read your post, Douchetard.



When has the "fan base" EVER stated that DT's death prevented the Chiefs from winning a Super Bowl?

And who the **** are you to speak for the "Fan base"?



Yes, you did.

And BTW, your grammar ****ing sucks.



No shit? Really?



Some of the people on this board what?

Will tell you to go **** yourself? Is that what you were trying to say?

Why don't you go back to your "Hollywood Mansion" where youre some big guy of importance. Oh wait, thats only here on CP.

Im pretty sure I got you all figured out by the way you act to EVERYBODY on this board. Youre struggling trying to make ends meet and you get pushed around in real life and so on here you act like some important guy that actually knows what the **** he is talking about. As well as attempting to bully every other poster on here who has a different opinion than you.

You drop gems like "I know (insert name here)" and "I pay $430 a year for for registration on my LEXUS. Did you hear that everybody? I drive a LEXUS. So does my wife, Carl." As if anyone gives a shit. But as long as it makes you feel better in your sad existence of a life I guess all is well.

In conclusion, youre a piece of **** of epic proportions and you can go **** yourself with a chainsaw.

Sincerely,
SDChiefs

Reerun_KC
02-10-2010, 06:28 PM
Why don't you go back to your "Hollywood Mansion" where youre some big guy of importance. Oh wait, thats only here on CP.

Im pretty sure I got you all figured out by the way you act to EVERYBODY on this board. Youre struggling trying to make ends meet and you get pushed around in real life and so on here you act like some important guy that actually knows what the **** he is talking about. As well as attempting to bully every other poster on here who has a different opinion than you.

You drop gems like "I know (insert name here)" and "I pay $430 a year for for registration on my LEXUS. Did you hear that everybody? I drive a LEXUS. So does my wife, Carl." As if anyone gives a shit. But as long as it makes you feel better in your sad existence of a life I guess all is well.

In conclusion, youre a piece of **** of epic proportions and you can go **** yourself with a chainsaw.

Sincerely,
SDChiefs


Post Fail

ROFL

Deberg_1990
02-10-2010, 06:34 PM
Why don't you go back to your "Hollywood Mansion" where youre some big guy of importance. Oh wait, thats only here on CP.

Im pretty sure I got you all figured out by the way you act to EVERYBODY on this board. Youre struggling trying to make ends meet and you get pushed around in real life and so on here you act like some important guy that actually knows what the **** he is talking about. As well as attempting to bully every other poster on here who has a different opinion than you.

You drop gems like "I know (insert name here)" and "I pay $430 a year for for registration on my LEXUS. Did you hear that everybody? I drive a LEXUS. So does my wife, Carl." As if anyone gives a shit. But as long as it makes you feel better in your sad existence of a life I guess all is well.

In conclusion, youre a piece of **** of epic proportions and you can go **** yourself with a chainsaw.

Sincerely,
SDChiefs

heh...this isnt going to end pretty for SD... :)

L.A. Chieffan
02-10-2010, 06:35 PM
did you bleep out your own cusswords?

L.A. Chieffan
02-10-2010, 06:35 PM
fuck

L.A. Chieffan
02-10-2010, 06:36 PM
works for me

fan4ever
02-10-2010, 06:45 PM
I loved watching the guy play and was very disappointed when I heard about his off the field antics after his passing. To me the fact he fathered all of those kids and screwed around while he was married is a huge disappointment that has tarnished how I feel as a fan.

If the morality of a man easily dismissed and isn't all that important as a whole, why do we all have such great pride in Joe Delaney; I still get choked up when I tell people about what he did. I feel that way because of what he did off the field, as a human being, rather than what he did on the field, as a player. He had a ton of promise, but that's not why we remember him like we do.

DaneMcCloud
02-10-2010, 07:52 PM
Why don't you go back to your "Hollywood Mansion" where youre some big guy of importance. Oh wait, thats only here on CP.

Im pretty sure I got you all figured out by the way you act to EVERYBODY on this board. Youre struggling trying to make ends meet and you get pushed around in real life and so on here you act like some important guy that actually knows what the **** he is talking about. As well as attempting to bully every other poster on here who has a different opinion than you.

You drop gems like "I know (insert name here)" and "I pay $430 a year for for registration on my LEXUS. Did you hear that everybody? I drive a LEXUS. So does my wife, Carl." As if anyone gives a shit. But as long as it makes you feel better in your sad existence of a life I guess all is well.

In conclusion, youre a piece of **** of epic proportions and you can go **** yourself with a chainsaw.

Sincerely,
SDChiefs

Typical response from an intellectually challenged douchetard n00b that has absolutely NO football knowledge.

Instead of trying to defend your ridiculous posts, you choose to attack me personally, as if you know ANYTHING about me.

Fortunately for me and unfortunately for you, my finances have no direct correlation to you and your fucking dumbassery. In other words, everything you stated is patently false and couldn't be further from the truth.

I have a feeling that your stay here at Chiefsplanet will be a short. Oh, and welcome to the Red Zone, Motherfucker.

Bunit
02-10-2010, 08:22 PM
He was a lotta Baby Daddy's. That's fo sho.

He was a ho fo sho

Mastashake
02-10-2010, 08:44 PM
Whenever he got paralyzed I totally shut down. I said, "I don't care if he plays football, I just want him to live a good life as a human being." Priorities kind of realign whenever something like that happens.

Then when he died, that hurt even worse. Cause it wasn't about football anymore. It was about a cool guy who I did look up to (at the time I admittedly knew little of his personal life) dying. It hurt.

In a way, though its kind of fitting. Derrick Thomas being confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life doesn't seem right. Maybe it is better to burn out than to fade away...

fan4ever
02-10-2010, 09:10 PM
Good point; I can certainly see that point of view.

Dottefan
02-10-2010, 11:36 PM
Have there been new developments or is he still dead?

YOU DONKEY SHAT HEAD LILL BIATCH....DONT YOU EVEN FAUCKIN UTTER HIS NAME..BURN IN HELL YOU DONKEY TRANY....R.I.P DT..

SPchief
02-11-2010, 12:58 AM
Why don't you go back to your "Hollywood Mansion" where youre some big guy of importance. Oh wait, thats only here on CP.

Im pretty sure I got you all figured out by the way you act to EVERYBODY on this board. Youre struggling trying to make ends meet and you get pushed around in real life and so on here you act like some important guy that actually knows what the **** he is talking about. As well as attempting to bully every other poster on here who has a different opinion than you.

You drop gems like "I know (insert name here)" and "I pay $430 a year for for registration on my LEXUS. Did you hear that everybody? I drive a LEXUS. So does my wife, Carl." As if anyone gives a shit. But as long as it makes you feel better in your sad existence of a life I guess all is well.

In conclusion, youre a piece of **** of epic proportions and you can go **** yourself with a chainsaw.

Sincerely,
SDChiefs

gd, Am I getting old? n00b alert n00b

ClevelandBronco
02-11-2010, 01:58 AM
YOU DONKEY SHAT HEAD LILL BIATCH....DONT YOU EVEN FAUCKIN UTTER HIS NAME..BURN IN HELL YOU DONKEY TRANY....R.I.P DT..

:thumb:

|Zach|
02-11-2010, 07:01 AM
Most men do the same stuff.

Ummm, no.

Absolutely not.

I kind of cringe sometimes when I read this stuff, I mostly shut up when DT craziness sweeps through. The guy was amazing...a game changing giant on the field. He also did a lot to help people...especially kids in Kansas City. I don't want to trash him but at the same time I reject a lot of the overblown revisionist history you hear concerning choices he made.

Fat Elvis
02-11-2010, 07:45 AM
I thought you weren't supposed to post WPI articles over here as a result of a lost bet.

InChiefsHell
02-11-2010, 08:13 AM
You know, if DT hadn't passed away, I wonder how his legacy would have played out. I'm not saying it's good that he died, but in terms of his legacy, it probably didn't hurt. Had he lived, he would have eventually had to deal with some inevitably public revelations about his 7 kids and there would have been arguements about which ones are supposed to get more blah blah blah. As I understand it, he didn't have a will and left quite a mess that his mother had to clean up. A couple of his baby's mommas wanted to sue the estate, I never heard where that went.

Had he lived, this would have inevitably played out very publicly and would have tarnished DT's reputation. As it stands, his legacy is better off because he passed away. People can now freely forget the bad and focus on the good. And there was a lot of good. But had he survived...I just think it would have gotten very very bad. Especially since he would no longer have been playing football.

Cannibal
02-11-2010, 08:24 AM
I'll never forget the day Thomas passed. I cut the tag out of my favorite Boars ear and rettaged him.

"58"

When you have a favorite Boar, does he get to live, kinda like your pet?

Demonpenz
02-11-2010, 09:54 AM
If Derrick Thomas was my kid I would be embarrassed by most of his actions. Late for everything, half assing through practice, fucking a bunch of ho's fathering alot of kids. He did give alot back to KC, great on the football field. He was at ease with his fans, and most people are stupid, so the translate being able to converse with fans nicely with being a "GREAT AND AWESOME GUY" In Short, Great football player, Fucked up but cool guy"

InChiefsHell
02-11-2010, 10:04 AM
If Derrick Thomas was my kid I would be embarrassed by most of his actions. Late for everything, half assing through practice, ****ing a bunch of ho's fathering alot of kids. He did give alot back to KC, great on the football field. He was at ease with his fans, and most people are stupid, so the translate being able to converse with fans nicely with being a "GREAT AND AWESOME GUY" In Short, Great football player, ****ed up but cool guy"

Yeah. One of those guys who you can't help but like even though he's a fuck up. And you DEFINITELY wouldn't want dating your daughter...