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|Zach|
02-13-2010, 12:26 PM
Deadspin got me thinking about this.

Thoughts?

CosmicPal
02-13-2010, 12:37 PM
They don't bother me as much as people who change their devotion to a team when they move to a new city. For example, that douchebag Chiefs fan who got press last year about converting to becoming a Bronco fan.

And then there are the fans who show up out of nowhere when a team is in the Playoffs and they act as if they'd been following "their" team since birth. :shake:

Count Alex's Losses
02-13-2010, 12:40 PM
I stopped caring about autographs when I was like 20.

LetsSignRussell
02-13-2010, 12:42 PM
I stopped caring about autographs when I was like 20.

:rolleyes:

kstater
02-13-2010, 12:43 PM
:rolleyes:

How bad do you have to be to be outed as a dumbass in 18 posts?

L.A. Chieffan
02-13-2010, 12:44 PM
autographs are cool when youre a little kid. but if youre over 13 and youre standing in line waiting for a Rafael Betancourt, this is bad.

autograph stuff of dead guys is alright tho

Count Alex's Losses
02-13-2010, 12:48 PM
autographs are cool when youre a little kid. but if youre over 13 and youre standing in line waiting for a Rafael Betancourt, this is bad.

autograph stuff of dead guys is alright tho

I don't think I ever waited for an athlete's autograph. I really wanted Boba Fett's autograph though.

"Bob" Dobbs
02-13-2010, 12:49 PM
Autographs are cool as long as you don't have to pay for them.

Over-Head
02-13-2010, 01:05 PM
My Raider card collection contains everything from their very first card
http://footballcardgallery.com/1960+Fleer/9/George-Blanch/

Right up to the 2000/2001 season when I came off the highway.

Most are in Mint shape, with the higher valued cards taken in any shape just to make my collection compleat.
As of current I have 98% of the total cards made of the team players from 1960 to 99/20.

And quite a few are auto'd.
Ken Stabler, , Jim Otto, Merv Hubbard, Fred Blietnikoff, Matuszak, Rod Martin

Haven't paid for one yet, never will.

As long as you don't hassle a person, why not have them sign something they helped make?

PornChief
02-13-2010, 03:10 PM
I never really 'collected' autographs but the few times I've been nearby a famous sports person I've asked them for one. Best one I've got is from race driver Denny Hulme who died from a heart attack at Bathurst a few years back, and various V8 supercar drivers like Larry Perkins, Dick Johnson and Peter Brock. Brock (who's also now dead) was the only one who acted like a dick. But you've probably never heard of those guys.

"Bob" Dobbs
02-13-2010, 03:15 PM
First autographs I EVER got were Curley Culp & Buck Buchanon. :thumb:

Red Brooklyn
02-13-2010, 03:24 PM
They don't bother me as much as people who change their devotion to a team when they move to a new city. For example, that douchebag Chiefs fan who got press last year about converting to becoming a Bronco fan.

And then there are the fans who show up out of nowhere when a team is in the Playoffs and they act as if they'd been following "their" team since birth. :shake:
Like all NY football fans. These same douchebags who insist that you can't root for the Mets AND the Yankees, will turn their back on The Giants or Jets and just root for whichever goes further in the playoffs and buy all the merch and act that that one has always been their team. And it pisses me off big time.

BigRedChief
02-13-2010, 03:55 PM
I've had the oppertunity to meet many a Chiefs player and sports player. Use to get autographs but I jquit that about 1997 or so, just felt like talking to the guy and shaking his hand was a good enough memory for myself. I've been to Tony G's apartment on the plaza and talked with him and October. Thats way cooler than an autograph. One time I did ask for a picture with him but that was at a fundraiser and not a private gathering.

KC_Connection
02-13-2010, 04:05 PM
I wouldn't even call them sports fans.

Fritz88
02-13-2010, 04:06 PM
Standing in line. Fuck that.

I wouldn't have minded getting a Jersey signed by DT through the mail.

WilliamTheIrish
02-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Never been an autograph type guy. I've got a few of them. But most of the times I've met sports figures as an adult, I just wanted to talk to them for five minutes.

Last year in Surprise, Az some insurance company sponsored Willie Wilson to sit and take picuresa and sign autos. After the second inning, I got to spend almost 40 minutes with him talking about the 1980 ALCS and WS the 85 ALCS and WS.

I got a great deal of autographs from the old Chiefs Huddle Club when I was a kid. I have no idea where they are.

Ari Chi3fs
02-13-2010, 04:15 PM
Bret Saberhagen called me an asshole at age 14 for wanting his autograph. Kevin Seitzer wanted to punch me when he signed my baseball and I was just staring at his unbelievably hot wife who was in a black mini skirt.

I must not of been very nice at age 14.

Count Alex's Losses
02-13-2010, 04:18 PM
Bret Saberhagen called me an asshole at age 14 for wanting his autograph. Kevin Seitzer wanted to punch me when he signed my baseball and I was just staring at his unbelievably hot wife who was in a black mini skirt.

I must not of been very nice at age 14.

And would you trade those experiences for anything?

Damn, AWESOME!

LaChapelle
02-13-2010, 04:20 PM
Try and get them to sign the bill

BigRedChief
02-13-2010, 04:30 PM
Standing in line. **** that.

I wouldn't have minded getting a Jersey signed by DT through the mail.One time after DT's radio show I stayed after the show and talked with Neal Smith and DT for a 1/2 hour. It was really cool. They were trashing Elvis/Bono something fierce.

blaise
02-13-2010, 04:31 PM
My college roommate worked at the baseball Hall of Fame during the summer. He had some pretty cool autographed stuff. There were rules about when and where they could ask the guys for autographs, but he was able to get a lot of stuff signed.
He would go to the gift shop and get a bat or a ball and get it signed. I didn't consider it scummy on his part though, he was a huge baseball fan, probably the biggest I ever met, and he just liked the history of the game and wanted pieces of it for himself. He wasn't trying to sell any of it.
Personally I don't get much from autographs. I have one autographed piece: a Pat Lafontaine photo.
To answer the question- I think it's mostly for kids, but I think it can be ok for an adult depending on your motive. If you're looking to turn a profit, it's scummy. If you're genuinely interested in getting one because you really like the player or the sport, it can be ok.

Chocolate Hog
02-13-2010, 04:37 PM
People say Willie Roaf is nice but when I got his autograph he was a douche. Will Shields was probably the nicest athlete I've ever met. I talked with LJ for 10 minutes at a bar in Westport he was actually pretty nice albeit a bit cocky.

Count Alex's Losses
02-13-2010, 04:40 PM
I would just like to recognize that Zach is the first planeteer to use the word "Phylum" on Chiefsplanet for the first time in almost a year.

RJ
02-13-2010, 06:38 PM
I would just like to recognize that Zach is the first planeteer to use the word "Phylum" on Chiefsplanet for the first time in almost a year.


Link?

Count Alex's Losses
02-13-2010, 06:43 PM
Use the search function you lazy jackass.

DJ's left nut
02-13-2010, 06:51 PM
Nope.

Bandwagoners are the lowest phylum of sports fans.

The guys that all started wearing Bosox clothes in 2005 and Red Wings clothes in 1996 can die in a fire. I don't remember the schmuck that said he was a Red Sox fan but the Yankees had cooler looking clothes so he wears Yankees gear, but he can hop in the flames with them.

Rain Man
02-13-2010, 07:01 PM
I think it's kind of pathetic when adults are getting autographs over kids just so they can sell them. They're damaging the sport. Let the kids all go first, and then if there's time then the adults.

And I guess I can see why there's some value, but modern sports autographs are a tulip market. How many autographs of Dwayne Wade are going to exist by the time he retires? Probably about the same number as there are beanie babies. How's that retirement plan of beanie babies working out for people?

Easy 6
02-13-2010, 07:10 PM
If they're only getting them to turn around & sell on ebay, then yes, they deserve the utmost odium.

If they are just huge sports fans that want some memorabilia to admire & pass on, then their is absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong with that.

Saulbadguy
02-14-2010, 10:56 AM
I think the "I Need Tickets" guys are worse.

NewChief
02-14-2010, 12:35 PM
If you're talking about the professional autograph hounds, then, yes... they're not even fans. They're freaking scam artists that will resort to tricks, charades, and outright badgering in order to convince an athlete that they really want his autograph. Then they turn around and sell them on e-bay. They're scumbags.

Guys who sincerely want the autograph because it means something to them are fine.

DaFace
02-14-2010, 12:46 PM
If you're talking about the professional autograph hounds, then, yes... they're not even fans. They're freaking scam artists that will resort to tricks, charades, and outright badgering in order to convince an athlete that they really want his autograph. Then they turn around and sell them on e-bay. They're scumbags.

Guys who sincerely want the autograph because it means something to them are fine.

Agree, provided that the latter 1) aren't pushing in front of kids to get the autograph and 2) they aren't obnoxious about trying to get it.

Mr. Flopnuts
02-14-2010, 12:53 PM
If you're talking about the professional autograph hounds, then, yes... they're not even fans. They're freaking scam artists that will resort to tricks, charades, and outright badgering in order to convince an athlete that they really want his autograph. Then they turn around and sell them on e-bay. They're scumbags.

Guys who sincerely want the autograph because it means something to them are fine.

That I can go for. I got autographs from Chiefs players when they were in Seattle a couple of times. I won't do it this year when I go to see them. I'm just not 17 anymore.

ChiefaRoo
02-14-2010, 12:57 PM
Deadspin got me thinking about this.

Thoughts?

No, you are.

|Zach|
02-14-2010, 12:58 PM
No, you are.

Alrighty...run along and be an internet tough guy somewhere...

Thanks for your take.

Or maybe you can go over to Skip's house and cheer him up. I am sure he is sad and alone. You guys deserve eachother.

ChiefaRoo
02-14-2010, 01:07 PM
Alrighty...run along and be an internet tough guy somewhere...

Thanks for your take.

Or maybe you can go over to Skip's house and cheer him up. I am sure he is sad and alone. You guys deserve eachother.

To be more precise. I meant to say paparazzi photogs are.

|Zach|
02-14-2010, 01:08 PM
To be more precise. I meant to say paparazzi photogs are.
I am not a paprazi photographer...but is that really your answer to the thread discussion.

Paparazi photographers are lowest kind of sports fan?

58kcfan89
02-14-2010, 01:11 PM
I've always been a guy to grab an autograph if I really liked the player and had an opportunity. But I've never fought with a kid for one or sold any of them.

I haven't gotten any autographs in a few years, though. I've thought about buying a DT one online, but keep chickening out because I think I'm gunna get scammed.

|Zach|
02-14-2010, 01:11 PM
http://breakfastwithspanky.site50.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/text-speak-lol.jpg

Ari Chi3fs
02-14-2010, 01:16 PM
The coolest story that I've ever heard pertaining to autographs...

The President of Coca-Cola in the 1960's used to like to sign his name in gold. So, he got a bunch of plates made with thin film of gold... he would use a stylus-type pen and sign his name and the gold would be there.

A friend of mine got ahold of 3 of these gold film plates... and took it a baseball show and got Mickey Mantle to sign his name on a baseball for $10. After Mickey signed it, he realized that he had just signed his name in gold for the first and only time in his life... and threw the baseball at my friend. He got it and the plate... put it in a baseball case, and I think eventually sold the ball for over $10,000.

DTLB58
02-14-2010, 01:29 PM
If Interetsted, I wrote and posted this August, 27th 2008 after returning from River Falls about this very subject.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=189980

Nzoner
02-15-2010, 03:56 PM
Agree, provided that the latter 1) aren't pushing in front of kids to get the autograph and 2) they aren't obnoxious about trying to get it.

I'd add a #3 as well,respecting the athletes own time,if they're at a sporting event or the like then yes,if out to dinner with the family or friend then no.

Tango&Cash
02-15-2010, 04:04 PM
They don't bother me as much as people who change their devotion to a team when they move to a new city. For example, that douchebag Chiefs fan who got press last year about converting to becoming a Bronco fan.

STL Rams fans :shake:

fyp...

Note to STL Rams fans.

Greatest Show on Turf was a decade ago.
Cardinals opening day is just around the corner.

PunkinDrublic
02-15-2010, 05:15 PM
It was alright when I was 14-16. I'm a 33 year old man now. There's something creepy to me about asking someone who's 8 to 10 years younger than you for an autograph. I'll offer up a "good luck tonight" or "great game the other night" and move on.

|Zach|
02-15-2010, 05:28 PM
So ummm, no more votes for sports paparazi? lol

Demonpenz
02-15-2010, 05:56 PM
whores around the players trying to get rich are probably worse. I dunno if you count that as fandom though

Phobia
02-15-2010, 06:00 PM
I've gotten autographs for charity fundraisers - never ever asked for an athlete's autograph for me though.

LaChapelle
02-15-2010, 06:35 PM
Band wagon fans are very important
if they didn't sell out the stadium and buy gear when the team was winning
spending money on winning would be dumb