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Norman Einstein
02-28-2010, 04:34 PM
I watched some interesting ideas about UFO's on the History Channel today.

Apparently there was a sighting at Aurora, TX in 1897.

Wright Patterson AFB seems to be the repository for all of the "found" flying saucers. Hanger 18. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=wright+patterson+hanger+18&aq=2&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=Wright+patterson+h)

Bugeater
02-28-2010, 04:40 PM
Hmmm...this could be interesting.

Jerm
02-28-2010, 04:41 PM
Dunno if I qualify as a "Ufologist" or whatever...very interesting subject to me however.

The evidence is overwhelming...been some very incredible stories over the years.
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JD10367
02-28-2010, 04:41 PM
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/04/weekend_diversion_do_tinfoil_h/tinfoil_hat_antenna.jpg

JD10367
02-28-2010, 04:43 PM
Seriously, though, I put in the same category as the "ghosts" thread. We'd be far too arrogant to think we know everything about life, death, and the rest of the Universe. Ghosts, aliens, past lives, alternate dimensions, whatever... I'm game for any theory because--just like when it comes to discussing deities/beliefs--since we can't prove one, we can't disprove any.

Bane
02-28-2010, 04:45 PM
I'm interested as well,but I have never seen anything with my own eyes that makes me believe.

Pupkin Rupert
02-28-2010, 04:53 PM
I'm interested as well,but I have never seen anything with my own eyes that makes me believe.

agreed

LaChapelle
02-28-2010, 04:59 PM
A parade in downtown KC in February
is the universal signal to attack and destroy

JD10367
02-28-2010, 05:02 PM
A parade in downtown KC in February
is the universal signal to attack and destroy

No, that's not aliens, that's religious end-of-the-world mythology stuff.

http://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/hell_freezing_over.jpg[

bevischief
02-28-2010, 05:10 PM
http://www.eyepod.org/AM-0-Index.html
http://archive.alienzoo.com/conspiracytheory.html
http://mysterious-america.net/
http://www.think-aboutit.com/ufo/project_aquarius.htm
http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/
http://www.ufoarea.com/index.html
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2006/12/possible-crash-involving-disk-shaped.html
http://www.ufocasebook.com/
http://www.ufodigest.com/index.html
http://www.ufoevidence.org/
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/

Bwana
02-28-2010, 05:18 PM
I would go along way in explaining Gochiefs.

UL Washington
02-28-2010, 05:26 PM
I would go along way in explaining Gochiefs.

Well yes, the whole anal probe thing that is. :clap:

bevischief
02-28-2010, 05:26 PM
I would go along way in explaining Gochiefs.

ROFL

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:39 PM
sorry, 'ufologist' isn't considered a proper scientific discipline.

DaFace
02-28-2010, 05:44 PM
I don't personally deny the possibility that there's life out there somewhere, but the recent tendency for groups to throw the suffix "-ology" onto things as if it were an academic discipline irks me.

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:46 PM
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Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:46 PM
I don't personally deny the possibility that there's life out there somewhere, but the recent tendency for groups to throw the suffix "-ology" onto things as if it were an academic discipline irks me.

this is EXACTLY where I am on the issue.

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:47 PM
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yeah, fruit loop. everybody's falling all over themselves to watch your 50 minute youtube video.

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:49 PM
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Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:50 PM
yeah, fruit loop. everybody's falling all over themselves to watch your 50 minute youtube video.

get it? his name is admiral crunch and I called him fruit loop? :)

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:50 PM
yeah, fruit loop. everybody's falling all over themselves to watch your 50 minute youtube video.



Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:50 PM
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stop the tape, mildred! this man is a CERTIFIED youtube UFOLOGIST!

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:51 PM
get it? his name is admiral crunch and I called him fruit loop? :)


Trix is better. :D

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:51 PM
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

in general, I love games. however, if we're playing that gay game 'simon,' you're SOL. that ain't happening.

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:52 PM
stop the tape, mildred! this man is a CERTIFIED youtube UFOLOGIST!


OK, you got me, I'm Victor!!! dun dun dun...

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:52 PM
Trix is better. :D

s'what your mom says :p

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:52 PM
in general, I love games. however, if we're playing that gay game 'simon,' you're SOL. that ain't happening.


I hate Simon. I prefer Jenga.

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:53 PM
OK, you got me, I'm Victor!!! dun dun dun...

hey, it burns when I pee. what do I do?

oh wait.... that's UROLOGIST! my bad, dawg.

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:53 PM
I hate Simon. I prefer Jenga.

see, THAT is what I'M talking about! shit yeah!

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:53 PM
s'what your mom says :p


I need medical attention, because that was a third degree burn. :)

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:54 PM
I need medical attention, because that was a third degree burn. :)

how about seeing a burnologist?

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:55 PM
how about seeing a burnologist?

possibly a dermatologist.

shit, son. I must be a SICKOLOGIST, cause that shit was SICK!

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:55 PM
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I love these campy youtube "truth" videos. Hours upon hours of entertainment.

JD10367
02-28-2010, 05:56 PM
Much like "Jesus put his image on my toast", and the ghost-hunting TV shows, there's probably 1% truth in what's out there, and 99% bullshit. The 99% bullshit ruins it for the 1% of reality.

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 05:58 PM
the truth is out there: but ONLY if you squint your eyes, do the correct drugs, and have a certain willingness to believe almost anything without much evidence.

wait, that sounds like religion. OH NO HE DIDN'T MOTHAFUGGA!

Crush
02-28-2010, 05:58 PM
possibly a dermatologist.

shit, son. I must be a SICKOLOGIST, cause that shit was SICK!


Word.

Jerm
02-28-2010, 05:58 PM
One of the whackiest and craziest theories associated with UFOs/Aliens are DUMBs.

There's supposedly one in Dulce, NM and one under the Denver International Airport.
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Crush
02-28-2010, 05:59 PM
the truth is out there: but ONLY if you squint your eyes, do the correct drugs, and have a certain willingness to believe almost anything without much evidence.

wait, that sounds like religion. OH NO HE DIDN'T MOTHAFUGGA!


You are on a roll. A soft delicious roll with butter... and mashed potatoes... and pork chops. Damn, I'm hungry.

Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 06:00 PM
One of the whackiest and craziest theories associated with UFOs/Aliens are DUMBs.

There's supposedly one in Dulce, NM and one under the Denver International Airport.
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ROFL

I'd laugh if I wasn't positive you were slightly serious.

Taco John
02-28-2010, 06:00 PM
I'm a funkologist.

JD10367
02-28-2010, 06:01 PM
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Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 06:02 PM
I know that buckethead once surfed with an alien. he must know something we don't (about how kfc products are good for one's hair)

Crush
02-28-2010, 06:03 PM
I need to tap into ufology and the surrounding bullshit. There is money to made in this market.

Crush
02-28-2010, 06:04 PM
I'm a funkologist.


Funk was given to us by the Zeta-Reticuli in exchange for letting them breed with our women.

JD10367
02-28-2010, 06:07 PM
I know that buckethead once surfed with an alien.

Oh no you di'nt...

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Jerm
02-28-2010, 06:09 PM
ROFL

I'd laugh if I wasn't positive you were slightly serious.

Sounds funny I know...acronym for Deep Undeground Military Base.

If you thought this was out there...read up on the stories and theories associated with those, takes crazy into an entirely new stratosphere.
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Ebolapox
02-28-2010, 06:10 PM
Oh no you di'nt...

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oh that's right, it WAS the alien! (joe certainly looks like one sometimes :p)

loochy
02-28-2010, 06:21 PM
A great site to read up on UFO stuff, paranormal, conspiracies, and politics is http://www.abovetopsecret.com. There are lots of kooks there but there is a lot of fun stuff to browse through too.

Crush
02-28-2010, 06:24 PM
A great site to read up on UFO stuff, paranormal, conspiracies, and politics is http://www.abovetopsecret.com. There are lots of kooks there but there is a lot of fun stuff to browse through too.


Sweet. I love this stuff. Thank you.

Norman Einstein
02-28-2010, 07:03 PM
I'm a funkologist.

Wasn't you told to funk off once already?

Norman Einstein
02-28-2010, 07:06 PM
What I find interesting about the whole thing is that you don't see the UFO reports now days as in the past. I won't discount the possibility of life elsewhere but if they were buzzing around in the 50's, 60's and on, why are we not seeing them now at the same frequency?

FAX
02-28-2010, 07:09 PM
Aurora Texas is an interesting case. That is, if you're talking about the 1897 event.

It has its problems, though. And they're serious ones ... not the least of which is the fact that the townspeople had purportedly buried the UFO's pilot in the local cemetery. If they had, in fact, done so, it would be a simple matter to dig the little, green bastard up and prove the existence of alien visitors once and for all and in one fell swoop. They haven't, though, and that doesn't help their credibility.

There are far better cases, too. The Travis Walton episode, for example ... the Thomas Mantell case ... the 1953 Washington DC flyovers ... and the Rendlesham sightings, to name just a few.

FAX

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-28-2010, 07:50 PM
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Yeah, that "Alien Interview" looked like a muppet.

Saul Good
02-28-2010, 07:51 PM
Aurora Texas is an interesting case. That is, if you're talking about the 1897 event.

It has its problems, though. And they're serious ones ... not the least of which is the fact that the townspeople had purportedly buried the UFO's pilot in the local cemetery. If they had, in fact, done so, it would be a simple matter to dig the little, green bastard up and prove the existence of alien visitors once and for all and in one fell swoop. They haven't, though, and that doesn't help their credibility.

There are far better cases, too. The Travis Walton episode, for example ... the Thomas Mantell case ... the 1953 Washington DC flyovers ... and the Rendlesham sightings, to name just a few.

FAX

I saw a show on that case once. It seemed pretty clear by the end that the reporter wrote the article just trying to create a tourism buzz. The whole town was kind of in on the ruse.

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-28-2010, 07:54 PM
I saw a show on that case once. It seemed pretty clear by the end that the reporter wrote the article just trying to create a tourism buzz. The whole town was kind of in on the ruse.

Is that the case where the town allegedly buried the alien in the local cemetery?

headsnap
02-28-2010, 08:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6JhI4fVxPQ


sorry, embedding disabled...

Braincase
02-28-2010, 08:22 PM
Count me amongst those that have a few questions I'd like answered.

I have an old buddy of mine that was officially stationed at Nellis AFB in Vegas, but worked a couple of hundred miles away. He told me (a direct quote) "There aren't any alien bodies buried at Area 51.... but I could tell you where to look".

I said "Wright-Patterson", and he gave me a smile and a wink.

This is no-bull-shit testimony from an Air Force Green Beret with an EE Masters, and a FIL that was a Navy Admiral in charge of black ops.

Flame on.

Norman Einstein
02-28-2010, 08:26 PM
Count me amongst those that have a few questions I'd like answered.

I have an old buddy of mine that was officially stationed at Nellis AFB in Vegas, but worked a couple of hundred miles away. He told me (a direct quote) "There aren't any alien bodies buried at Area 51.... but I could tell you where to look".

I said "Wright-Patterson", and he gave me a smile and a wink.

This is no-bull-shit testimony from an Air Force Green Beret with an EE Masters, and a FIL that was a Navy Admiral in charge of black ops.

Flame on.

I though Green Beret was Army only?

Hog Farmer
02-28-2010, 09:22 PM
I gotta say I'm on the border as I described in this thread.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=216872

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-28-2010, 09:41 PM
S4 FTW!

FAX
02-28-2010, 10:01 PM
Count me amongst those that have a few questions I'd like answered.

I have an old buddy of mine that was officially stationed at Nellis AFB in Vegas, but worked a couple of hundred miles away. He told me (a direct quote) "There aren't any alien bodies buried at Area 51.... but I could tell you where to look".

I said "Wright-Patterson", and he gave me a smile and a wink.

This is no-bull-shit testimony from an Air Force Green Beret with an EE Masters, and a FIL that was a Navy Admiral in charge of black ops.

Flame on.

I lean heavily on the side of "something to it" ... the whole alien visitor via UFO deal, I mean. Mainly because of reports by military officials, law enforcement personnel, and professional pilots.

Those people are particularly impressive, Mr. Braincase. The Rendlesham event is a great example of a military sighting that involves a lot of eyewitnesses including a Staff Sergeant who, as his team members watched, actually touched a landed craft with his hands during a security team investigation.

Another is the occurrence at an ICBM installation in Montana involving the sighting of a UFO just prior to 10 warheads inexplicably going "off line". The specialist brought in to check into the problem had absolutely no answer as to why the missiles were made inactive. That's a strange one ... and only one of many cases involving nuclear missiles both here and overseas.

And, of course, there's the Illinois incident in which several police officers from various local stations throughout the state attested to the flight of an enormous triangle UFO flying low right over their heads ... similar to the same type of craft that harassed Belgium for so long. It's interesting to note that, in this case, the police officers all passed lie detector exams with no problem.

There's also case involving the JAL flight which was "chased" by an enormous UFO over Alaska. That one is scary, frankly. The pilots, radar operators, and traffic controllers all testify to the truth of that episode.

Then, there's the testimony of Gordon Cooper. He was a firm believe in ET visitation and wrote a letter to the UN to that effect. If anyone is interested in the phenomenon and hasn't read about Cooper's experiences with UFOs, it's worth the time to look it up.

FAX

kcchuck
02-28-2010, 10:05 PM
I don't have proof, but would bet money on it, to think humans are the best the Universe can do would be really depressing.

Pioli Zombie
02-28-2010, 10:10 PM
I don't personally deny the possibility that there's life out there somewhere, but the recent tendency for groups to throw the suffix "-ology" onto things as if it were an academic discipline irks me.
I'm into IwannafuckSarahPalinology.
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Sweet Daddy Hate
02-28-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm into IwannafuckSarahPalinology.
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So, "anything that moves". Got it.

FAX
02-28-2010, 10:41 PM
I don't have proof, but would bet money on it, to think humans are the best the Universe can do would be really depressing.

There are lots of problems with the UFO stuff, though, Mr. kcchuck.

For example, let's say that there really is an extra-terrestrial civilization that's sufficiently evolved to master faster-than-light (or, at least, super speed) travel and can, therefore, cruise around the galaxy on weekdays checking stuff out on Earth. If such a race of intelligent beings did exist, why would they give a crap about our planet? And, why do it in semi-secret? Heck, we're not very highly evolved at all and we've mastered sky-writing. Why don't they announce their presence with a big, sky-high "howdy do" written in cursive with radioactive smoke?

Then, there's the whole probing deal. Why would a super-advanced race of ETs want to probe the anus of an ugly middle-aged woman somewhere in the middle of Kentucky? One would think their highly evolved scientists would have better things to do with their time than to jam their highly evolved, micro-volted, nano-laminated, anti-magnetic, meta-resonator up some old lady's ass.

It doesn't make a lot of sense.

FAX

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-28-2010, 10:43 PM
There are lots of problems with the UFO stuff, though, Mr. kcchuck.

For example, let's say that there really is an extra-terrestrial civilization that's sufficiently evolved to master faster-than-light (or, at least, super speed) travel and can, therefore, cruise around the galaxy on weekdays checking stuff out on Earth. If such a race of intelligent beings did exist, why would they give a crap about our planet? And, why do it in semi-secret? Heck, we're not very highly evolved at all and we've mastered sky-writing. Why don't they announce their presence with a big, sky-high "howdy do" written in cursive with radioactive smoke?

Then, there's the whole probing deal. Why would a super-advanced race of ETs want to probe the anus of an ugly middle-aged woman somewhere in the middle of Kentucky? One would think their highly evolved scientists would have better things to do with their time than to jam their highly evolved, micro-volted, nano-laminated, anti-magnetic, meta-resonator up some old lady's ass.

It doesn't make a lot of sense.

FAX

Natural resources ftw?

FAX
02-28-2010, 10:47 PM
What natural resources could possible be retrieved from an old lady's coal chute that would be of any conceivable use to a race of highly evolved extra terrestrials?

FAX

Jenson71
02-28-2010, 10:48 PM
I am pretty much against the idea of there actually being aliens that come to our planet. I've even gotten into it with others on here who swore I was showing my generational arrogance (meaning that I was arguing that we had reached the height of human achievement). While I don't think I am saying that at all, I am arguing against the idea that aliens come check out our planet, and that we will ever travel into another solar system.

Unless there becomes actual evidence of string theory.

It is tooooooooo big.

RustShack
02-28-2010, 10:50 PM
Aliens are like Americans. They think they can just go wherever the fuck they want and take over.

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-28-2010, 10:53 PM
What natural resources could possible be retrieved from an old lady's coal chute that would be of any conceivable use to a race of highly evolved extra terrestrials?

FAX

I wasn't actually referring to the "coal chute" per se, but the medical experiments are supposedly tied to reverse-genetics research because the little buggers can no longer reproduce.

If you buy that theory.

FAX
02-28-2010, 10:54 PM
I am pretty much against the idea of there actually being aliens that come to our planet. I've even gotten into it with others on here who swore I was showing my generational arrogance (meaning that I was arguing that we had reached the height of human achievement). While I don't think I am saying that at all, I am arguing against the idea that aliens come check out our planet, and that we will ever travel into another solar system.

Unless there becomes actual evidence of string theory.

It is tooooooooo big.

Well, I have no doubt that, eventually, faster-than-light travel will be achieved, Mr. Jenson71. We'll figure out a way to bend space/time or discover a way to use the non-locality phenomenon associated with particle physics to "virtually travel" anywhere in the universe instantaneously.

There's still the question of why anyone would want to continually visit the same planet over and over, time after time for no clear reason without even getting to know the inhabitants.

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CosmicPal
02-28-2010, 10:58 PM
It doesn't make a lot of sense.

FAX

Those are all valid points Fax. However, as you know, our species only uses 3% of our brains. We have yet to expand and harness our intelligent capabilities and this is the argument that persuade some scientists to believe there exists far more advanced intelligent beings in the universe.

I too find it difficult to believe that beings from a galaxy 2,000 light years away are hovering over a field in Iowa right now because even if they traveled the speed of light, it would still take them 2,000 years to make it here. One would think they'd be bringing the mother of all ships with them because you'd have to procreate in order to keep traveling.

Maybe they can subsist for 2,000 years and that's why they look like they do? :D

The bottom line is that there are so many unanswered questions that it is too daunting of a task to try to figure it all out.

I do believe there is life out there. Over a zillion planets/stars/galaxies and you'd have to believe that there are a few more "earths" out there.

chefsos
02-28-2010, 11:03 PM
Well, I have no doubt that, eventually, faster-than-light travel will be achieved, Mr. Jenson71. We'll figure out a way to bend space/time or discover a way to use the non-locality phenomenon associated with particle physics to "virtually travel" anywhere in the universe instantaneously.

There's still the question of why anyone would want to continually visit the same planet over and over, time after time for no clear reason without even getting to know the inhabitants.

FAXWatching the stupid shit that humans do on a daily basis has got to have considerable entertainment value.

CosmicPal
02-28-2010, 11:07 PM
There's still the question of why anyone would want to continually visit the same planet over and over, time after time for no clear reason without even getting to know the inhabitants.

FAX

You do realize that some of the art created by our earliest relatives in regions around France point to vehicles that never existed in their time? The pyramids and stone formations all over the world are considered by some to be either assisted by outside forces and/or invitations for them. If they've been here, they've been here for a very long time.

FAX
02-28-2010, 11:12 PM
Those are all valid points Fax. However, as you know, our species only uses 3% of our brains. We have yet to expand and harness our intelligent capabilities and this is the argument that persuade some scientists to believe there exists far more advanced intelligent beings in the universe.

I too find it difficult to believe that beings from a galaxy 2,000 light years away are hovering over a field in Iowa right now because even if they traveled the speed of light, it would still take them 2,000 years to make it here. One would think they'd be bringing the mother of all ships with them because you'd have to procreate in order to keep traveling.

Maybe they can subsist for 2,000 years and that's why they look like they do? :D

The bottom line is that there are so many unanswered questions that it is too daunting of a task to try to figure it all out.

I do believe there is life out there. Over a zillion planets/stars/galaxies and you'd have to believe that there are a few more "earths" out there.

I have no doubt that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, Mr. CosmicPal. I am also about 80% convinced that some of the UFO "sightings" and interactions are legitimate. There are major questions, though.

Personally, I would love to see a UFO (I've never had the pleasure). I know a guy who has and he is both adamant and very convincing when it comes to the subject. And as I mentioned, the reports by military personnel, law enforcement officials, and pilots are, for the most part, very convincing.

As for the 3% theory, I'm a little jealous, to be honest about it. I only use about .001% of my brain having toasted the balance in an attempt to set every heathen record in the books. That's why I'm a big proponent of mind-melding. If I could make friends with a super-intelligent alien guy and mind-meld with him, I just might be able to finish a Sunday Times crossword.

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B_Ambuehl
02-28-2010, 11:13 PM
Try explaining something like a telephone, internet message board, or any of thousands of other technological advances to a modern human from a primitive tribe in new guinea. Just because we can't comprehend something now doesn't mean it's not possible.

One interesting thing about alien abductions is people from all around the world from different cultures and languages describe the same type of medical instruments used by aliens - instruments that are not used in any human society.

FAX
02-28-2010, 11:20 PM
You do realize that some of the art created by our earliest relatives in regions around France point to vehicles that never existed in their time? The pyramids and stone formations all over the world are considered by some to be either assisted by outside forces and/or invitations for them. If they've been here, they've been here for a very long time.

I'm familiar with some of them, at least, Mr. CosmicPal. It appears that some of the rock art and hieroglyphics do, indeed, indicate past alien visitation. As I'm sure you know, a variety of ancient documents including the Biblical texts and the Puranas also either mention or allude to the presence of UFOs.

There are some claims that are pretty dubious, though. I remember seeing one famous hieroglyphic that people say is a helicopter. Well, the picture sure looks just like a helicopter, that's true. However, I don't understand why aliens would be using helicopters since they have space ships.

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CosmicPal
02-28-2010, 11:24 PM
Personally, I would love to see a UFO (I've never had the pleasure). I know a guy who has and he is both adamant and very convincing when it comes to the subject. And as I mentioned, the reports by military personnel, law enforcement officials, and pilots are, for the most part, very convincing.

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I've mentioned it here before in another thread, but I'll share it again. In the late 90's when I was living in Denver, I was at this intersection near Evans & I-25. I'll never forget this as long as I live. I can recall, without a doubt, the weather, the traffic, everything.

Anyway, so I'm sitting there waiting for the light to change and listening to the radio. I'm facing south. It is early morning as I'm on my way to work, so I-25 is busy and there is a slight haze in the air. All of a sudden I see this silver speck in the sky- straight ahead, off in the distance. I can't quite make out it's form, but I can most certainly tell it's not an airplane, it's not a helicopter, or blimp, or jet of any kind. It's just sitting still.

At this moment I'm thinking to myself I need some coffee when the object darts off at warp speed as though something awakened it and it didn't want to be caught. I swear it's like a scene in a sci-fi film. In a split second, this thing went from something to absolutely nothing. The next thing I see is a newschopper flying right over my head- it changed directions from the highway as if they saw it too and were racing to catch up with something they'll never catch in their lifetime.

I think those guys in the chopper saw the same thing I did. I have no idea if it was some trick to the eye or what, but it stopped my heart for a moment.

FAX
02-28-2010, 11:26 PM
Try explaining something like a telephone, internet message board, or any of thousands of other technological advances to a modern human from a primitive tribe in new guinea. Just because we can't comprehend something now doesn't mean it's not possible.

One interesting thing about alien abductions is people from all around the world from different cultures and languages describe the same type of medical instruments used by aliens - instruments that are not used in any human society.

John Mack was certain that the abduction phenomenon was real and he was a very reasonable, intelligent, and educated human. He even put his career and reputation on the line in order to pursue the question. Then he gets killed in a very questionable and strange hit and run accident. Odd, that.

I'm not so sure, though. I mean, whether people are actually being abducted and probed and all or whether it's some form of mass hallucination. Then, of course, you have situations like the Travis Walton case which is very convincing.

FAX

FAX
02-28-2010, 11:33 PM
I envy you, Mr. CosmicPal. I'd love to see one someday. Heck, I wouldn't mind meeting some alien guys, to be honest. I just don't want to be probed. People who get probed say it's very unpleasant. Plus, sometimes they get implanted and nobody wants that.

Unless it's some kind of chip that gives you super powers. That would be cool. But, so far, I haven't heard of an alien implant that gives the recipient super powers. Not that they would let it be known, I imagine. They'd probably keep it secret so the government wouldn't capture their ass and throw them in a cell and study them for the next 40 years. Of course, if you had super powers, the government probably couldn't imprison you ... unless it was some kind of special cell with special walls or they had some way to counteract your super powers. Still, it would be a major hassle. Come to think of it, that's probably why you don't hear about people getting super powers. There probably are tons of people who wound up getting implants that gave them super powers and they're just keeping it to themselves to avoid government harassment.

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CosmicPal
02-28-2010, 11:43 PM
I envy you, Mr. CosmicPal. I'd love to see one someday.
FAX

It sounds exciting and in a sense it really was. However, I'm still not sure what it was I saw and in that case, it certainly can be considered an 'unidentified flying object.'

I worked at an airport and my father was a pilot so I know what's up there and how they behave in the air. This thing didn't behave like anything I've ever seen before, but I'm still not sure what it was because I couldn't make out definite details or anything. I do know one thing for certain, whatever it was was faster than ANYTHING we are capable of producing.

blazzin311
03-01-2010, 12:28 AM
Dunno if I qualify as a "Ufologist" or whatever...very interesting subject to me however.

The evidence is overwhelming...been some very incredible stories over the years.
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I agree completely. The universe is too large for us to be the only ones in it. If you think otherwise then you're probably a moron. :D


Seriously, though, I put in the same category as the "ghosts" thread. We'd be far too arrogant to think we know everything about life, death, and the rest of the Universe. Ghosts, aliens, past lives, alternate dimensions, whatever... I'm game for any theory because--just like when it comes to discussing deities/beliefs--since we can't prove one, we can't disprove any.

Very good point you make here as well. :clap:


It sounds exciting and in a sense it really was. However, I'm still not sure what it was I saw and in that case, it certainly can be considered an 'unidentified flying object.'

I worked at an airport and my father was a pilot so I know what's up there and how they behave in the air. This thing didn't behave like anything I've ever seen before, but I'm still not sure what it was because I couldn't make out definite details or anything. I do know one thing for certain, whatever it was was faster than ANYTHING we are capable of producing.

Yea I saw something last summer myself. Some friends and I were camping down by the river last summer one evening probably mid July or so. It's night time what have you and we're all sitting around the camp fire. I'm looking up just admiring the beauty of the stars (there were a million out that night) when all of a sudden I see a lit up object up in the Southern portion of the sky from where I was at. Now this object unlike the one you saw at first was not staionary at first. It looked like it was moving North but at a slow pace. Then a few seconds later for some unexplained reason what ever it was, this said object speed out of sight into the Northern Sky at speeds that I can't even fathom. It was so dark and whatever it was at the time was so far away it would have been impossible to make it out. That being said I don't care what kind of "UFO" it may or may not have been. All I know is I've never seen anything go from moving so slow to just bookin it like that. Never have I seen something move so fast in my entire life. Definitely makes ya wonder. Take it for what it's worth (probably not much though).

JD10367
03-01-2010, 03:25 AM
There are lots of problems with the UFO stuff, though, Mr. kcchuck.

For example, let's say that there really is an extra-terrestrial civilization that's sufficiently evolved to master faster-than-light (or, at least, super speed) travel and can, therefore, cruise around the galaxy on weekdays checking stuff out on Earth. If such a race of intelligent beings did exist, why would they give a crap about our planet? And, why do it in semi-secret? Heck, we're not very highly evolved at all and we've mastered sky-writing. Why don't they announce their presence with a big, sky-high "howdy do" written in cursive with radioactive smoke?

Prime Directive, man. The Vulcans won't land until Cochran launches that warp-drive-capable ship.

Count Zarth
03-01-2010, 03:37 AM
I would go along way in explaining Gochiefs.

Who can forget XLIBUTSCRALE? (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=115915)

bevischief
03-01-2010, 04:02 AM
Prime Directive, man. The Vulcans won't land until Cochran launches that warp-drive-capable ship.

then launch it.

Norman Einstein
03-01-2010, 05:33 AM
I'm into Iwanna****SarahPalinology.
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So, "anything that moves". Got it.

So, to quote a line from Smoky and the Bandit: Watch your ass Fred!

JD10367
03-01-2010, 08:51 AM
They don't need to land. They're only doing aerial surveys with plans of wiping out the planet to build the hyperspace bypass.

beach tribe
03-01-2010, 09:31 AM
I think somebody is visiting us. Whether the crafts are manned, I don't know.

I think it's crazy to think that there isn't life out there somewhere, and strongly believe that there's probably civilizations out there a million years older than us. The universe is BIG, and there could even be other universes older than ours.
Absolutely Nothing would surprise me. Just thinking about the universe itself, space, and time, it's unbelievable to begin with. Anything is possible.

JD10367
03-01-2010, 09:35 AM
We're all in a marble on the collar of a cat named Orion.

wild1
03-01-2010, 09:47 AM
I saw a documentary about this once that I thought was pretty even-handed. Because of the designations the Groom Lake site had on different types of maps one could confer that, at least a few decades ago, no place was considered more sensitive by the government than the NTS... but I never came away feeling that there was any reason to attribute this to aliens. It just sounds like a lot of work on experimental aircraft was done there.

FAX
03-01-2010, 09:49 AM
There was a guy on coasttocoastam the other night who brought up something that I had never heard (nor considered) before. It had to do with the need for carbon to create and sustain life. Although I have an abiding interest in the astronomic sciences, I am unfamiliar with this concept and hope that some of you guys will be able to shed some light on this.

It all starts with the belief on the part of some people that other civilizations might be thousands, if not millions or billions, of years older than we are which would allow for more advancement within that civilization.

He said that, since carbon is necessary for life to exist and since carbon is created during star formation (and, I assume, throughout the life of a star), the age of any given star and its neighboring stars is critical when considering whether or not life might exist in the star system. In other words, any particular star might not be sufficiently old to produce the carbon necessary to create or support life.

I wish I knew more about this, because on the face of it, it seems plausible. It's certainly true that the building blocks of life are, at least in part, born in stars. So, if the life cycle of a star is too short to allow for a civilization to exist as an intelligent species for say ... a million years, you have a problem. It takes a great deal of time for life to take hold in the first place in the form of the first self-sustaining, reproducing cell. Then there's the time to evolve into sentient beings. Then there's the time needed to achieve scientific preeminence. Has the supporting star lived that long? That's the question. The guy on the Noory's show had his doubts that many such star systems exist.

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Norman Einstein
03-01-2010, 06:20 PM
There was a guy on coasttocoastam the other night who brought up something that I had never heard (nor considered) before. It had to do with the need for carbon to create and sustain life. Although I have an abiding interest in the astronomic sciences, I am unfamiliar with this concept and hope that some of you guys will be able to shed some light on this.

It all starts with the belief on the part of some people that other civilizations might be thousands, if not millions or billions, of years older than we are which would allow for more advancement within that civilization.

He said that, since carbon is necessary for life to exist and since carbon is created during star formation (and, I assume, throughout the life of a star), the age of any given star and its neighboring stars is critical when considering whether or not life might exist in the star system. In other words, any particular star might not be sufficiently old to produce the carbon necessary to create or support life.

I wish I knew more about this, because on the face of it, it seems plausible. It's certainly true that the building blocks of life are, at least in part, born in stars. So, if the life cycle of a star is too short to allow for a civilization to exist as an intelligent species for say ... a million years, you have a problem. It takes a great deal of time for life to take hold in the first place in the form of the first self-sustaining, reproducing cell. Then there's the time to evolve into sentient beings. Then there's the time needed to achieve scientific preeminence. Has the supporting star lived that long? That's the question. The guy on the Noory's show had his doubts that many such star systems exist.

FAX

If you are a religious type you might consider that God wouldn't make one planet amongst the billions/trillions of stars and then stop. When you completed your very first project did you quit? Me neither.

bevischief
03-01-2010, 07:15 PM
It is called poop and all the interest in anal probes...

damaticous
03-01-2010, 08:15 PM
Count me amongst those that have a few questions I'd like answered.

I have an old buddy of mine that was officially stationed at Nellis AFB in Vegas, but worked a couple of hundred miles away. He told me (a direct quote) "There aren't any alien bodies buried at Area 51.... but I could tell you where to look".

I said "Wright-Patterson", and he gave me a smile and a wink.

This is no-bull-shit testimony from an Air Force Green Beret with an EE Masters, and a FIL that was a Navy Admiral in charge of black ops.

Flame on.

Your old buddy's name doesn't happen to be Bob Lazar does it?

Easy 6
03-01-2010, 08:34 PM
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Easy 6
03-01-2010, 08:45 PM
Those people are particularly impressive, Mr. Braincase. The Rendlesham event is a great example of a military sighting that involves a lot of eyewitnesses including a Staff Sergeant who...]

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Not to mention light Bird Charles Halt, the officer in charge of the American side of the post... Super HIGH level clearance/experience, but according to way too many... 'lol, some kook who was being experimented on/seeing things...'

Lonewolf Ed
03-01-2010, 08:59 PM
What natural resources could possible be retrieved from an old lady's coal chute that would be of any conceivable use to a race of highly evolved extra terrestrials?

FAX

Plainly, it is how they get their kink on.

petegz28
03-02-2010, 09:54 AM
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Crush
03-02-2010, 09:59 AM
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That was obviously an extra-dimensional vehicle, which was designed and driven by the Grays.

FAX
03-02-2010, 11:07 AM
Here's a good one ...

Late 1973: The Coyne Incident.

Several Army Reservists assigned to the 316th Medical Detachment stationed out of the Cleveland Hopkins Airport were flying a UH-1H helicopter from Columbus to Cleveland about 11 p.m. on Oct. 18, 1973 after having conducted routine medical examinations.

On board were pilot Capt. Lawrence Coyne, co-pilot Lt. Rick Jezzi, flight medic Sgt. John Healey, and crew chief Sgt. Robert Yanacek.

It was a clear night with no moon and these men were cruising at about 90 knots at an altitude of 2,500 feet over farmland when Healey saw a red light in the west (left). The light appeared to be heading south. Three or four minutes later, Yanacek noticed another single, steady, red light on the eastern horizon (the Huey was equipped with a large, plexiglass window in the back) and reported this sighting to Coyne. About 30 seconds later, Yanacek announced that the light appeared to be converging on the helicopter.

Coyne took over the controls from Jezzi and began a powered descent of approximately 500 feet per minute and made radio contact with Mansfield approach control, requesting information on possible jet traffic. After Mansfield acknowledged their transmission, radio contact was lost on both UHF and VHF.

The red light appeared to be on a collision course with the Huey, approaching at a speed estimated to be more than 600 knots. Coyne increased the rate of descent to 2,000 feet per minute until they reached about 1,700 feet, about 600 feet above the tree tops.

Just as a collision appeared imminent, the light suddenly stopped and hovered above and in front of the helicopter. They then saw that the light was emanating from a large, cigar-shaped, gray metallic, domed object of sufficient size to fill the entire windshield.

The object was solid, blotting out the stars behind it. It had a red light at the nose, a white light at the tail, and a distinctive green beam emanating from the lower part of the otherwise featureless fuselage. The green beam swung up over the helicopter nose, through the windshield, and into the upper tinted window panels. The cockpit was bathed in intense green light. No noise or turbulence was noted.

After a few seconds, the object accelerated and moved off to the west. Coyne and Healey reported that it then made a distinct 45 degree turn to the right, heading toward Lake Erie. Strangly, while the object was still visible, Jezzi and Coyne both noted that the altimeter read 3,500 feet with a rate of climb of 1,000 feet per minute. Yet the collective (steering mechanism) was still in the full-down position set during the descent.

Here's how they reported it:

Coyne: "Approximately 8 miles out of Mansfield, our crew chief noticed a red light on the east horizon."

Coyne: "He indicated that the light seemed to be pacing the helicopter."

Coyne: "Then he indicated that the light changed direction and was coming directly at the helicopter at the same altitude."

Coyne: "I grabbed the controls from Lt. Jezzi because I thought it was going to hit us. I braced for impact and with that I pushed the collective down to get the helicopter to start to descend.

Coyne: "As the helicopter descended to 1700 feet, the object descended with us."

Coyne: "It was at this time that a green light swung 90 degrees, came in throught the plexiglass and the entire cockpit turned green from the light."

Coyne: "It was a cigar-shaped object. Like a semetrical airfoil with a dome on top. It was a solid object. It was a metallic structure.

Jezzi: "Capt. Larry Coyne was the pilot. I was in the left seat, actually flying the Huey at the time. We were near Mansfield flying at 2,500 to 3,000 feet."

Jezzi: "One of the guys in the back reported a red light. He said it looked like an aircraft light on the right horizon. I couldn't see it."

Jezzi: "Then I heard 'I think its coming toward us'. The next thing I knew Larry took control of the throttle. We went into a maneuver, a controlled free fall. We dropped about 2,000 feet."

Coyne: "I would like to stress one important fact. That is that there is approximately 20 years of Army aviation experience between the four men on board the helicopter that night. We have been trained to follow procedures and regulations in reporting incidents regardless of how they're accepted. We tried to follow those procedures and we reported the incident as it occurred and have avoided any speculation on the subject.

One oddity about this is that, while the green light was bathing the Huey, the helicopter actually elevated to 3500 feet. This occurred even though the controls were in a full descent position. Strange, that.

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Braincase
03-02-2010, 11:15 AM
Your old buddy's name doesn't happen to be Bob Lazar does it?

Nope...

I always wondered about Lazar. He's either a victim or a deranged psychopath.

Chiefs4TheWin
03-02-2010, 12:02 PM
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Wow that's pretty awesome. I wonder if the bottom of the fence could be pushed upwards, and the cop thought he was going to crash into it.