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BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 09:20 AM
http://www.coffeepartyusa.com/

From their about us on their website

Coffee Party USA aims to reinvigorate the public sphere, drawing from diverse backgrounds and diverse perspectives, with the goal of expanding the influence of the People in America's political arena. We do not require nor adhere to any preexisting ideology. We encourage deliberation guided by reason amongst the many viewpoints held by our members. We see our diversity as a strength, not a weakness, because we believe that faithful deliberation from multiple vantage points is the best way to achieve the common good. It is in the responsible and reasonable practice of deliberation that we hope to contribute to society.

Coffee Party USA is made up of people acting independently of political parties, of corporations, and of political lobbying networks. To this point, all products created and hours logged for Coffee Party have been carried out in the spirit of volunteerism. In the coming months and years, we hope to transform our disappointment in our current political system into a force that will return our nation to a course of popular governance, of the People by the People for the People.
We are diverse — ethnically, geographically, politically, in age and in experience.

We are 100% grassroots. No lobbyists here. No pundits. And no hyper-partisan strategists calling the shots in this movement. We are a spontaneous and collective expression of our desire to forge a culture of civic engagement that is solution-oriented, not blame-oriented.
We demand a government that responds to the needs of the majority of its citizens as expressed by our votes and by our voices; NOT corporate interests as expressed by misleading advertisements and campaign contributions.

We want a society in which democracy is treated as sacrosanct and ordinary citizens participate out of a sense of civic duty, civic pride, and a desire to contribute to society. The Coffee Party is a call to action. Our Founding Fathers and Mothers gave us an enduring gift — Democracy — and we must use it to meet the challenges that we face as a nation.

MISSION: The Coffee Party Movement gives voice to Americans who want to see cooperation in government. We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will, and that we must participate in the democratic process in order to address the challenges that we face as Americans. As voters and grassroots volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them.

redsurfer11
03-13-2010, 09:25 AM
100% Liberal Progressive Socialist group.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 09:31 AM
100% Liberal Progressive Socialist group.I wouldn't write them off just yet. Same issues are in play that created the tea party. Far right conservatives didn't like the Republican's approach to issues. They broke off from that party. Same thing is now happening to the left wing of the Democratic party.

We may be heading to a parlimentary voting blocks inside of our existing system. Guess we will figure out how to make it work eventually.

I think we are seeing the begining of the era of a domininate two party system ending.

redsurfer11
03-13-2010, 09:41 AM
MISSION: we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them.

Sounds like Nazi Germany,the USSR, China, Cuba, Venuzuela and North Korea.

Dave Lane
03-13-2010, 09:50 AM
If I can get free lattes I'll fully support this agenda. Whatever it is.

PunkinDrublic
03-13-2010, 09:57 AM
Lol only one post in for one of the wanna-be mccarthyites to chime in.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 10:08 AM
MISSION: we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them.

Sounds like Nazi Germany,the USSR, China, Cuba, Venuzuela and North orea. Holding leaders accountable to provide positive solutions to the people who elected them is now the same as what happened in Nazi Germany?:facepalm:

jtmac50
03-13-2010, 10:26 AM
I don't think the Coffee party is grassroots. I think it is a top-driven response to the Tea Party, which is I believe, grassroots.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 10:31 AM
I don't think the Coffee party is grassroots. I think it is a top-driven response to the Tea Party, which is I believe, grassroots.jeeez it didn't take long to get a talking point going. You just repeated what the tea party guy said on CNN.

Taco John
03-13-2010, 10:38 AM
I wouldn't write them off just yet.


Already written them off weeks ago when I posted about this fake astroturf Obama movement.

Baby Lee
03-13-2010, 10:44 AM
I don't think the Coffee party is grassroots. I think it is a top-driven response to the Tea Party, which is I believe, grassroots.

Google "Annabel Park" and "Organizing for America"

notorious
03-13-2010, 10:49 AM
I think we are seeing the begining of the era of a domininate two party system ending.

Thank GOD!

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 10:53 AM
Google "Annabel Park" and "Organizing for America"see, this is what I'm talking about. Who gives a chit who they volunteered or worked for in the past? 1 person doesn't make a movement. All the money for organizing the orginal tea party was from corporations, especailly health insurance corporations. Thats doesn't make the "real" people in the streets any less important politically.

I'm not on board with the "coffee party" I think its just silly for people to dismiss what is happening in our political culture on the left and right as a non-factor.

notorious
03-13-2010, 10:56 AM
see, this is what I'm talking about. Who gives a chit who they volunteered or worked for in the past? 1 person doesn't make a movement. All the money for organizing the orginal tea party was from corporations, especailly health insurance corporations. Thats doesn't make the "real" people in the streets any less important politically.

I'm not on board with the "coffee party" I think its just silly for people to dismiss what is happening in our political culture on the left and right as a non-factor.

Corporate and Union money will always try to persuade these groups to benefit them.

Baby Lee
03-13-2010, 11:03 AM
see, this is what I'm talking about. Who gives a chit who they volunteered or worked for in the past? 1 person doesn't make a movement. All the money for organizing the orginal tea party was from corporations, especailly health insurance corporations. Thats doesn't make the "real" people in the streets any less important politically.

I'm not on board with the "coffee party" I think its just silly for people to dismiss what is happening in our political culture on the left and right as a non-factor.

It's not that she volunteered, it's that she's been a non-stop activist for a good while and is trying to posit herself as just some random chick who came up with this neat idea for discourse.

She's tweeted numerous times about how the Obama admin [not 'plain folks,' the admin she stumped for and set up a Youtube channel dedicated to prasing] needs to come up with a strategy for countering the 'Teabagger' movement.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 11:05 AM
Already written them off weeks ago when I posted about this fake astroturf Obama movement.People have written off isolationism long ago too but you still cling to the idea.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 11:07 AM
It's not that she volunteered, it's that she's been a non-stop activist for a good while and is trying to posit herself as just some random chick who came up with this neat idea for discourse.

She's tweeted numerous times about how the Obama admin [not 'plain folks,' the admin she stumped for and set up a Youtube channel dedicated to prasing] needs to come up with a strategy for countering the 'Teabagger' movement.again, who cares? some self promoting person or someone tied and beholden to unions, the establishment will not be in charge very long if the movement is real, sustainable.

As far as countering the tea bagger movement wellll I think a lot of this is because of that reason. Why is that a negative? Both extremes of the two party system are struggling to be heard.

Dottefan
03-13-2010, 11:08 AM
Something else for Conservative\ Republcians to cry about.

Baby Lee
03-13-2010, 11:14 AM
again, who cares? some self promoting person or someone tied and beholden to unions, the establishment will not be in charge very long if the movement is real, sustainable.

As far as countering the tea bagger movement wellll I think a lot of this is because of that reason. Why is that a negative? Both extremes of the two party system are struggling to be heard.

I'm not dismissing it out of hand, only informing regarding the actual origin.

Are you on board with her whole 'aw shucks, never could've imagining starting a dialog could be so hard, I just want people to talk to each other' schpeil?

Baby Lee
03-13-2010, 11:15 AM
Something else for Conservative\ Republcians to cry about.

Your grammar makes the baby Palin cry.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 11:17 AM
I'm dismissing it out of hand, only informing regarding the actual origin.

Are you on board with her whole 'aw shucks, never could've imagining starting a dialog could be so hard, I just want people to talk to each other' schpeil?Doesn't pass the smell test to me either. Bet she's out soon anyway.

patteeu
03-13-2010, 11:49 AM
I think we are seeing the begining of the era of a domininate two party system ending.

This is a pipe dream short of a revolution or a constitutional convention.

DanT
03-13-2010, 12:16 PM
Whenever I read mission statements like the one for the Coffee Party, I snicker diversed-ly.

The Coffee Party is made up of people acting independently of political parties. Therefore it is irrelevant. All products produced by the Coffee Party will be in the spirit of volunteerism, typically by people who will later regret the effort they wasted. Our Founding Fathers...and Mothers...and, while we're at it, the Founding Pet Dogs...gave us Democracy, but we never listened to our parents anyway so we're going to pretend that Democracy means "cooperation". Oh, and we would like to emphasize that we are diverse, even though in the last three elections, we tended to vote for the same presidential candidate.

Lou Scannon
03-13-2010, 12:17 PM
Whigs forever!:clap:

Dottefan
03-13-2010, 12:25 PM
Your grammar makes the baby Palin cry.

:deevee:

jjjayb
03-13-2010, 12:28 PM
jeeez it didn't take long to get a talking point going. You just repeated what the tea party guy said on CNN.

It doesn't make it any less true Alinsky.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 12:33 PM
This is a pipe dream short of a revolution or a constitutional convention.remember back before Iowa, when Hillary was up 25-30 points on Obama? Remember I told you guys on here that not only would he beat the Clinton machine but would be the next POTUS? My political prediction side business is 1-0. :)

Reaper16
03-13-2010, 12:41 PM
This sounds stupid and contrived.

patteeu
03-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Whenever I read mission statements like the one for the Coffee Party, I snicker diversed-ly.

The Coffee Party is made up of people acting independently of political parties. Therefore it is irrelevant. All products produced by the Coffee Party will be in the spirit of volunteerism, typically by people who will later regret the effort they wasted. Our Founding Fathers...and Mothers...and, while we're at it, the Founding Pet Dogs...gave us Democracy, but we never listened to our parents anyway so we're going to pretend that Democracy means "cooperation". Oh, and we would like to emphasize that we are diverse, even though in the last three elections, we tended to vote for the same presidential candidate.

:LOL:

patteeu
03-13-2010, 12:46 PM
remember back before Iowa, when Hillary was up 25-30 points on Obama? Remember I told you guys on here that not only would he beat the Clinton machine but would be the next POTUS? My political prediction side business is 1-0. :)

If you stick with this one, it's guaranteed to go to 1-1. The way our system works pushed us into a two party system. It wasn't just something that someone dreamed up because it sounded neat. Until the way we hold winner-take-all elections changes, there will always be systemic reasons why we can't have 3 or more contending parties over the long haul.

wazu
03-13-2010, 12:46 PM
Whenever I read mission statements like the one for the Coffee Party, I snicker diversed-ly.

The Coffee Party is made up of people acting independently of political parties. Therefore it is irrelevant. All products produced by the Coffee Party will be in the spirit of volunteerism, typically by people who will later regret the effort they wasted. Our Founding Fathers...and Mothers...and, while we're at it, the Founding Pet Dogs...gave us Democracy, but we never listened to our parents anyway so we're going to pretend that Democracy means "cooperation". Oh, and we would like to emphasize that we are diverse, even though in the last three elections, we tended to vote for the same presidential candidate.

Awesome.

patteeu
03-13-2010, 12:48 PM
This sounds stupid and contrived.

No, not contrived at all. It's a spontaneous, grassroots movement, haven't you heard? It's in the OP. It's even bolded.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 12:49 PM
If you stick with this one, it's guaranteed to go to 1-1. The way our system works pushed us into a two party system. It wasn't just something that someone dreamed up because it sounded neat. Until the way we hold winner-take-all elections changes, there will always be systemic reasons why we can't have 3 or more contending parties over the long haul.I'm just BSing. But in all seriousness, I do think we will have a 3rd party influence the elections in 2012.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 12:50 PM
No, not contrived at all. It's a spontaneous, grassroots movement, haven't you heard? It's in the OP. It's even bolded.FTR, it was a strict copy and paste.

patteeu
03-13-2010, 12:52 PM
FTR, it was a strict copy and paste.

I know. I'm just :Poke: :p

patteeu
03-13-2010, 12:54 PM
I'm just BSing. But in all seriousness, I do think we will have a 3rd party influence the elections in 2012.

That's a decent bet. The main function of the 3rd parties will be what it always is though (just possibly more pronounced this time around). They will act to siphon off votes and/or influence the platform of one or both of the major parties. In the end though, we will elect an R or a d as President and most seats in Congress will go to one of the two parties as well.

It would take a special candidate (e.g. access to funds, particularly charismatic, etc.) or a special situation (e.g. both major party candidates are tarnished by corruption) for most third party candidates to win their races and they'd have a much harder time hanging on to their seat the next time around than the typical incumbent.

Saul Good
03-13-2010, 01:00 PM
It would take a special candidate (e.g. access to funds, particularly charismatic, etc.) or a special situation (e.g. both major party candidates are tarnished by corruption) for most third party candidates to win their races and they'd have a much harder time hanging on to their seat the next time around than the typical incumbent.

I think it's also possible that an extremely popular and charismatic sitting president (who was elected in a first term as an R or D) could break away and run for re-election as a third party candidate. It seems really unlikely, but that's about the only way that I can see a third party really become viable.

patteeu
03-13-2010, 01:11 PM
I think it's also possible that an extremely popular and charismatic sitting president (who was elected in a first term as an R or D) could break away and run for re-election as a third party candidate. It seems really unlikely, but that's about the only way that I can see a third party really become viable.

Sure. That could happen.

My position isn't that it's impossible for a 3rd party to win an election, it's that it's impossible for 3 or more parties to survive over the course of several elections. If a 3rd party rises far enough to achieve some electoral success, it will either be short-lived or it will ultimately replace one of the two major parties. In the end, the equilibrium state of our system involves two and only two major parties.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 01:23 PM
I think it's also possible that an extremely popular and charismatic sitting president (who was elected in a first term as an R or D) could break away and run for re-election as a third party candidate. It seems really unlikely, but that's about the only way that I can see a third party really become viable.Obama could pull that off. He says we need "real" change in Washington and it can't be done from inside the 2 political parties. But, that would never happen.

Brock
03-13-2010, 01:28 PM
Obama could pull that off. He says we need "real" change in Washington and it can't be done from inside the 2 political parties. But, that would never happen.

He's not popular.

Saul Good
03-13-2010, 01:29 PM
Obama could pull that off. He says we need "real" change in Washington and it can't be done from inside the 2 political parties. But, that would never happen.

Actually, it would be interesting to see Hillary run as a third party candidate in 2012.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Actually, it would be interesting to see Hillary run as a third party candidate in 2012.Thats a much more longshot. But, when you are talking about longshots.....anything is possible

Saul Good
03-13-2010, 01:40 PM
Thats a much more longshot. But, when you are talking about longshots.....anything is possible

Never underestimate her ambition. I would be willing to bet that you see a "spontaneous" draft Hillary movement a year or two from now.

ClevelandBronco
03-13-2010, 01:53 PM
I wouldn't write them off just yet. Same issues are in play that created the tea party. Far right conservatives didn't like the Republican's approach to issues. They broke off from that party. Same thing is now happening to the left wing of the Democratic party.

We may be heading to a parlimentary voting blocks inside of our existing system. Guess we will figure out how to make it work eventually.

I think we are seeing the begining of the era of a domininate two party system ending.

I think you're indulging your wishful side.

EDIT: Now that I've read down, it seems patteeu has already injected the prescribed dose of realism.

Taco John
03-13-2010, 02:58 PM
All the money for organizing the orginal tea party was from corporations, especailly health insurance corporations.


No it wasn't. The original Tea Party was 100% funded by grass roots:

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Taco John
03-13-2010, 03:02 PM
People have written off isolationism long ago too but you still cling to the idea.

No idea what you're talking about. I don't cling to isolationism. Your ignorance on the topic doesn't bother me.

BigRedChief
03-13-2010, 03:29 PM
No idea what you're talking about. I don't cling to isolationism. Your ignorance on the topic doesn't bother me.Dude, since you still haven't figured out let me clue you in.....I know "isolationism" gets to you so I use it to :Poke:

jettio
03-13-2010, 03:31 PM
I am waiting for the Robitussin-party movement to get off the ground.

Sippin' syrup may be the only way to get a fair number of Ron Paulistas, Palintologists and Tree-huggers in the room together talking politics.

Taco John
03-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Dude, since you still haven't figured out let me clue you in.....I know "isolationism" gets to you so I use it to :Poke:

Oh. Well it doesn't. I know what and who I am.

Ebolapox
03-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Holding leaders accountable to provide positive solutions to the people who elected them is now the same as what happened in Nazi Germany?:facepalm:

the issue is 'those who are obstructing them'

the best thing that can happen in 2010 is gridlock. it gums up the gears so those criminals in dc (BOTH parties, right and left) can't screw us any more.

Taco John
03-13-2010, 03:53 PM
I am waiting for the Robitussin-party movement to get off the ground.

Sippin' syrup may be the only way to get a fair number of Ron Paulistas, Palintologists and Tree-huggers in the room together talking politics.



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jettio
03-13-2010, 04:00 PM
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Exactly. ROFL

BucEyedPea
03-13-2010, 06:13 PM
Sounds like a scam. Too many leftists codes in it. Plus the lack of originality in their name.

BucEyedPea
03-13-2010, 06:15 PM
EDIT: Now that I've read down, it seems patteeu has already injected the prescribed dose of realism.

ROFLROFL you mean delusionism right?

ClevelandBronco
03-13-2010, 06:24 PM
ROFLROFL you mean delusionism right?

As it stands, the system will support two parties and only two parties. That's reality whether you chose to send small yellow beings to roll on the e-floor or not.

ClevelandBronco
03-13-2010, 06:28 PM
Wait a minute. Don't you have him on iggy?

How would you form the opinion that what he said was "delusionalism?"

BucEyedPea
03-13-2010, 07:03 PM
As it stands, the system will support two parties and only two parties. That's reality whether you chose to send small yellow beings to roll on the e-floor or not.

Oh well, that's not what I meant by the word delusional here.

Taco John
03-15-2010, 12:48 AM
The Tea Party grass roots is fighting this coffee stuff by opening their arms and welcoming them in:

http://www.annihilia.com/anifiles/coffee2s.jpg

BucEyedPea
03-15-2010, 10:01 AM
The Tea Party grass roots is fighting this coffee stuff by opening their arms and welcoming them in:

http://www.annihilia.com/anifiles/coffee2s.jpg

Awesome! :thumb:

patteeu
03-15-2010, 10:15 AM
Awesome! :thumb:

What would also be awesome is if you addressed that Ronald Reagan quote like you suggested you would after you had a chance to check Reagan's autobiography for yourself. Since we know you've reviewed the autobiography, it's time to follow through. Helpful link (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=223334).

BucEyedPea
03-15-2010, 10:24 AM
Huh?

People actually talk to people who aren't listening?

Der Flöprer
03-15-2010, 10:44 AM
Business as usual. Because nothing needs to change.

Taco John
03-15-2010, 11:44 AM
What would also be awesome is if you addressed that Ronald Reagan quote like you suggested you would after you had a chance to check Reagan's autobiography for yourself. Since we know you've reviewed the autobiography, it's time to follow through. Helpful link (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=223334).


You're better at this than I am. I eventually let Direckshun off the hook. Though I still think he's a coward for running away.

patteeu
03-15-2010, 11:47 AM
You're better at this than I am. I eventually let Direckshun off the hook. Though I still think he's a coward for running away.

Yes, he's a repeat offender too. FWIW, your hilarious campaign against him inspired me.

BucEyedPea
03-15-2010, 11:57 AM
You're better at this than I am. I eventually let Direckshun off the hook. Though I still think he's a coward for running away.

I haven't run away at all though. I responded to him in that original thread where it came up. I said I'd get back to him, ( that is to him in that original thread ) when I got the book which took over a week to get. That was before his call-out thread.I haven't finished with the book. I even got the original speech from the Congressional Record. It's a thick book and work. He wants a premature response. I have other work that is a priority, and had the flu last week. The more pat presses on it, as well as anyone else, the more that thread is bumped, the longer I will take. Again, it's not like he wasn't responded to on it in the original thread. And it's not like I can see his OP in any thread he creates which happened after he was put on ignore. So far, to date, pat is mostly wrong on that quote. This will be shown.

I posted many times before: the corollarly to free speech is the freedom not to speak. I don't let anyone bully me into talking to them, especially when I have hardly seen anything that person has said. The thing is I don't do call-out threads. That says more about pat. And I don't care what pat or any of his gossiping minions think about it. I will do it in my own time, at my own convenience. I don't let anyone control me as if I have an obligation. Sorry but that's the way it is with me. Pat needs to take responsibility for the effects he creates by how he goes about things.

Donger
03-15-2010, 12:04 PM
I don't get the reference. Coffee Party?

banyon
03-15-2010, 12:05 PM
Huh?

People actually talk to people who aren't listening?

How did you know he was talking to you if you didn't read the post?

AW FAKE IGNORE!!!!

BucEyedPea
03-15-2010, 12:05 PM
I don't get the reference. Coffee Party?

A first, I thought Crazy Coffee started a new movement. I was so disappointed when I found out what it really was.

Calcountry
03-15-2010, 01:16 PM
I'm just BSing. But in all seriousness, I do think we will have a 3rd party influence the elections in 2012.You are hoping, and praying that to be true.

Calcountry
03-15-2010, 01:18 PM
He's not popular.BRC hasn't got the memo yet.

BigRedChief
03-15-2010, 02:36 PM
You're better at this than I am. I eventually let Direckshun off the hook. Though I still think he's a coward for running away.What am I missing? Direckshun left because of you

bowener
03-15-2010, 02:44 PM
I wouldn't write them off just yet. Same issues are in play that created the tea party. Far right conservatives didn't like the Republican's approach to issues. They broke off from that party. Same thing is now happening to the left wing of the Democratic party.

We may be heading to a parlimentary voting blocks inside of our existing system. Guess we will figure out how to make it work eventually.

I think we are seeing the begining of the era of a domininate two party system ending.

Thank god.

bowener
03-15-2010, 02:47 PM
MISSION: we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and hold accountable those who obstruct them.

Sounds like Nazi Germany,the USSR, China, Cuba, Venuzuela and North Korea.

Really? WTF is wrong with you?

Every party, every group always says this tired old line. What the fuck else is somebody going to say? "We will abandon or oppose leaders who work toward positive solutions, and aid those who obstruct them."

Get your head out of your ass. Even the list of "examples" you gave shows that every party says this, Nazism and Communism are complete and absolute opposites on the political spectrum.

patteeu
03-15-2010, 03:00 PM
Really? WTF is wrong with you?

Every party, every group always says this tired old line. What the **** else is somebody going to say? "We will abandon or oppose leaders who work toward positive solutions, and aid those who obstruct them."

Get your head out of your ass. Even the list of "examples" you gave shows that every party says this, Nazism and Communism are complete and absolute opposites on the political spectrum.

That's not true. Where would anarchism fit on your apparently rather short spectrum?

Jenson71
03-15-2010, 03:01 PM
You're better at this than I am. I eventually let Direckshun off the hook. Though I still think he's a coward for running away.

Yeah, for real. When I went after BEP for the individual rights/democracy thread in which she never responded, she said that I was borderline internet stalking, and I gave up after a few days.

Jenson71
03-15-2010, 03:05 PM
The more pat presses on it, as well as anyone else, the more that thread is bumped, the longer I will take.

Well isn't that convenient. "Maybe they'll forget about it . . ."

patteeu
03-15-2010, 05:25 PM
The more pat presses on it, as well as anyone else, the more that thread is bumped, the longer I will take.

Yeah, "pat" didn't press it for a long time. I waited several days before creating the thread and even then I said that I was going to be patient because I knew you'd said you were trying to get the book from another library, I waited for a long time after that before pressing you at all.

When it became clear (based on your neg rep messages to wild1) that you'd had plenty of time to read the relevant chapter of the book, I added a button to my sig since you still hadn't shown. You complained about it in a neg rep message claiming that it was preventing you from responding so I got rid of the button and waited for another several days. Still nothing.

I'm starting to think that you're just making excuses.

Jenson71
03-15-2010, 05:33 PM
Yeah, "pat" didn't press it for a long time. I waited several days before creating the thread and even then I said that I was going to be patient because I knew you'd said you were trying to get the book from another library, I waited for a long time after that before pressing you at all.

When it became clear (based on your neg rep messages to wild1) that you'd had plenty of time to read the relevant chapter of the book, I added a button to my sig since you still hadn't shown. You complained about it in a neg rep message claiming that it was preventing you from responding so I got rid of the button and waited for another several days. Still nothing.

I'm starting to think that you're just making excuses.

LMAO

Norman Einstein
03-15-2010, 06:17 PM
What am I missing? Direckshun left because of you

I'd say that he left due to UI.

BigRedChief
03-16-2010, 10:19 AM
Yeah, "pat" didn't press it for a long time. I waited several days before creating the thread and even then I said that I was going to be patient because I knew you'd said you were trying to get the book from another library, I waited for a long time after that before pressing you at all.

When it became clear (based on your neg rep messages to wild1) that you'd had plenty of time to read the relevant chapter of the book, I added a button to my sig since you still hadn't shown. You complained about it in a neg rep message claiming that it was preventing you from responding so I got rid of the button and waited for another several days. Still nothing.

I'm starting to think that you're just making excuses.
BEP you really need to work this out, respond to Patteau.

The Mad Crapper
03-16-2010, 10:19 AM
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