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dallaschiefsfan
03-15-2010, 10:48 AM
He's been a left guard for the Colts...so...does that mean:

A. He would be a line-depth add
B. He would get the first shot at RG
C. He provides an opening to trade Waters

His 2008 injury and sudden release by the Colts makes me think depth. Not being a line expert, I have no idea as to whether he would even be a good fit at RG...but if he can easily make the switch, that option make sense to me. The conspiracy theorist in me says "C" because 1.) I'm guessing Pioli/Haley never fogot the incident last off-season and 2.) Pioli might want to collect draft picks.

Regardless, if he gets a contract offer, I'm guessing we'll know their plans pretty soon.

Detoxing
03-15-2010, 10:52 AM
Not C, that's for sure. Waters probably wouldn't even yield a 7th rnd pick, dude.

DMAC
03-15-2010, 10:52 AM
If he gets a contract offer, I'm guessing we'll know their plans pretty soon.

edit: Oh, you already said that. Ok...thread over. :)

Der Flöprer
03-15-2010, 10:54 AM
When your team is as devoid of talent as the Chiefs, you have to be willing to look under every stone.

My only concern is the guy starts, struggles, then continues to start anyway ala Goff. As long as that doesn't happen, there is nothing bad that could come out of this. Well, provided we don't give the guy 10 milly guaranteed or some dumb shit like that.

Tom_A_Hawk
03-15-2010, 10:55 AM
It means we are spending money on aging players that are almost stop gap.
Colts didn't off him because of pay.

dallaschiefsfan
03-15-2010, 10:57 AM
It means we are spending money on aging players that are almost stop gap.
Colts didn't off him because of pay.

He's 28. Hardly aging. Plus he was due a bonus...a little over 1 million...which wasn't much, but it's not like it didn't play into their decision if they thought they had another option. It's all context.

Woodrow Call
03-15-2010, 11:07 AM
I think it means they are going defense heavy in the draft and trying to patch some depth together on the o-line.

dallaschiefsfan
03-15-2010, 11:13 AM
I think it means they are going defense heavy in the draft and trying to patch some depth together on the o-line.

I'm inclined towards this view...but unsure as to whether Lilja would be excited about a depth role...regardless of whether it meant playing for the home town team or not. Is he even getting any other feelers?

mcaj22
03-15-2010, 11:14 AM
Ryan Lilja is 28 years old. Mike Goff was like 48 years old when he signed onto this team last year. I'd like to think there is a little difference in that in determining how much Lilja has left. I think he could play another 4/5 years at the level he was playing at.

Of course this not considering if he actually did fail a Colts physical and there is something wrong with him, which our luck... there will be and he will fizzle out.

Molitoth
03-15-2010, 11:14 AM
IF we sign Lilja, what does that mean?

To the ship!

JD10367
03-15-2010, 11:16 AM
I'm inclined towards this view...but unsure as to whether Lilja would be excited about a depth role...

Maybe he has no choice. If that injury rumor is true, perhaps the Chiefs swooped in with one of those, "Hey, here's a 1-year deal so you can prove yourself to the NFL" offers.

Any time you can get veteran (i.e. formerly-starting) guys to get on board for decent contracts and be backups/stopgaps, it's good. So many times those guys end up playing more than you anticipated and then you're glad you had 'em around.

RedThat
03-15-2010, 11:19 AM
Im looking at it as more competition in camp. Didn't sit well with me when I heard he failed a physical, but on the other hand, I value the experience he has. He was a 5 year starter with the Colts, and gave them solid play.

So if this move works out for the best, he gives us an added veteran on the offensive line. If it doesn't work out, and suppose a guy like Colin Brown surprises or lets say Rudy Niswanger wins the job at RG, then he gives you added depth, which to me is equally as important as adding another starter to your team.

Bottomline, the signing means he improves your overall 53 man roster.

JD10367
03-15-2010, 11:19 AM
To the ship!

It's hard to tell if you are serious or sarcastic, since there aren't any qualifiers on this post. (For example, if you'd ended it with !1!11!!!! then it would indicate sarcasm.)

I think you guys should have visual indicators of your level of sincerity. For example, are you talking

http://www.dacust.com/oddboats/images/previews/paperboat2.jpg

or are you talking

http://thephoenix.com/blogs//blogs/outsidetheframe/D9%20close_encounters_large_09.jpg

dallaschiefsfan
03-15-2010, 11:29 AM
It's hard to tell if you are serious or sarcastic, since there aren't any qualifiers on this post. (For example, if you'd ended it with !1!11!!!! then it would indicate sarcasm.)

I think you guys should have visual indicators of your level of sincerity. For example, are you talking

http://www.dacust.com/oddboats/images/previews/paperboat2.jpg

or are you talking

http://thephoenix.com/blogs//blogs/outsidetheframe/D9%20close_encounters_large_09.jpg

Rep

Molitoth
03-15-2010, 11:32 AM
I was thinking:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/pirates/images/thumb/7/77/BlackPealScreen.jpg/250px-BlackPealScreen.jpg

JD10367
03-15-2010, 11:33 AM
Rep

I think you guys should have visual indicators of your level of rep. For example, are you talking

http://timstvshowcase.com/fmatter3.jpg

or are you talking

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Ron_Jeremy_mod.jpg

Mr. Laz
03-15-2010, 12:23 PM
I still think they might give Waters another shot at center.


wait ... and before people start bitching about Waters having problems with the center exchange back in the day. IIRC he only had a QB/C fumble exchange 2/3 times and he was just getting started. We had other options so we didn't give it a full chance.

Also the idea that Center is more physically demanding is bullshit. Center is more mentally demanding and that is where Water's experience comes in to play. Waters would be good at identifying the blitz and shifting the blocking assignment and line calls.

Center needs leverage and power more than speed unless you pull your center.

it would all depend on whether Waters would want to try it or not.

LT - albert
LG - Lilja
C - Waters
RG - Colin Brown/Draftee
RT - O'callaghan/Draftee

RustShack
03-15-2010, 01:21 PM
He would have to play LG and we would have to move Waters to RG.

RustShack
03-15-2010, 01:23 PM
Waters is too big to play C in a zone blocking offense, maybe he could have done it in Herms. Also we are going to use Weigmann to pull. .

salame
03-15-2010, 01:26 PM
O-line band aids
TO THE SOMALI PIRATE SHIP!

http://thebaumer.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/somali-pirates.jpg

T-post Tom
03-15-2010, 01:29 PM
Haven't you heard? Lilja is washed up and can't play in the NFL. :rolleyes:

Seriously, he would be good depth as he can also play center.

dallaschiefsfan
03-15-2010, 01:32 PM
He would have to play LG and we would have to move Waters to RG.

This would be interesting if this is how it happens. I would think that Waters play at RG would be helpful in further improvement to O'Callaghan's play.
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Sweet Daddy Hate
03-15-2010, 02:03 PM
When your team is as devoid of talent as the Chiefs, you have to be willing to look under every stone.

My only concern is the guy starts, struggles, then continues to start anyway ala Goff. As long as that doesn't happen, there is nothing bad that could come out of this. Well, provided we don't give the guy 10 milly guaranteed or some dumb shit like that.

You're looking at this from the wrong angle, Flop. If evry one of these FA linemen dumpster-dives suck, it means more "Spanish" Cassel Magic; the kind we've come to know and love oh so much.

And if that happens again, that will ultimately lead to, well, you know where I'm going with this...:D