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Over-Head
03-15-2010, 06:53 PM
sorry if re-post

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/03/14/sports/s160910D11.DTL


The Oakland Raiders bolstered their pass rush Sunday by acquiring former first-round pick Kamerion Wimbley from the Cleveland Browns for an undisclosed draft pick.

Oakland senior executive John Herrera confirmed the deal, saying Oakland gave up a pick it had acquired in a previous deal. The Raiders had acquired a third-round pick from New England last summer in a deal for Derrick Burgess.

"This gives us a guy who has been a strong presence as a pass rusher," Herrera said. "He has been very productive."

The Browns traded two former first-round picks Sunday, confirming a deal that sent quarterback 2007 first-rounder Brady Quinn to the Denver Broncos about two hours before Oakland announced it had picked up Wimbley.

The Browns' decision to deal Wimbley was a bit of a surprise. Last season, he began to show flashes of being the kind of player he was when he recorded 11 sacks in his rookie year.

The 6-foot-3, 255-pounder was drafted in the first round out of Florida State in 2006. He had 6 1/2 sacks and 48 tackles in 15 games last season and has 26.5 sacks in his career.

Cleveland may use one of its high draft picks to address its pass rush.

Wimbley becomes the fourth former first-round pick on Oakland's defense, joining defensive end Richard Seymour, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and safety Michael Huff.

The Raiders previously had released defensive end Greg Ellis, who tied for the team lead in sacks last season with seven.

Wimbley can play either end or outside linebacker. The Raiders used second-year player Trevor Scott in that role last season as an outside linebacker/third-down pass rusher. Scott had seven sacks in that role.

Wimbley is the first player Oakland has added from another organization since the start of free agency earlier this month. The Raiders had previously cut four veterans Ellis, running back Justin Fargas, receiver Javon Walker and defensive tackle Gerard Warren.

Oakland also re-signed kicker Sebastian Janikowski before he could become a free agent, used the franchise tag on Seymour and re-signed free agent offensive lineman Khalif Barnes.

bowener
03-15-2010, 07:13 PM
If we had an extra third I would have liked to have seen him in KC playing OLB.

Over-Head
03-15-2010, 07:21 PM
If we had an extra third I would have liked to have seen him in KC playing OLB.
We NEED an O-Line that can give more than 21 micro seconds of pass protection.

PGM
03-15-2010, 07:28 PM
Nice acquisition by Oakland. Boy did Cleveland get a nice investment out of some recent 1st rounders :rolleyes: Edwards, Quinn, and Wimbley for 2 thirds, late round picks, chansi stuckey, and an F'n fullback. What a bounty.

TrickyNicky
03-15-2010, 07:35 PM
Wimbley is a wichita kid, hate to see him play for the faiders.

Mecca
03-15-2010, 07:36 PM
Nice acquisition by Oakland. Boy did Cleveland get a nice investment out of some recent 1st rounders :rolleyes: Edwards, Quinn, and Wimbley for 2 thirds, late round picks, chansi stuckey, and an F'n fullback. What a bounty.

New regime giving up on players....looks familiar.

PGM
03-15-2010, 07:55 PM
New regime giving up on players....looks familiar.

The NFL good ole boy network is quite strange and disturbing. I really don't understand giving Quinn away unless they have real ambitions of moving up and snagging Claussen.

Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme at QB??? Really?

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2010, 07:57 PM
New regime giving up on players....looks familiar.

yeah we have basically given away 3 first round picks for nothing. :rolleyes
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chiefzilla1501
03-15-2010, 07:59 PM
The NFL good ole boy network is quite strange and disturbing. I really don't understand giving Quinn away unless they have real ambitions of moving up and snagging Claussen.

Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme at QB??? Really? You have the option of giving A. Giving Quinn another year to try and prove himself B. Trade him for peanuts and sign these bozos?

I would trust Holmgren on this one.

He knows a thing or two (or three) about Quarterbacks.

chiefzilla1501
03-15-2010, 08:00 PM
The NFL good ole boy network is quite strange and disturbing. I really don't understand giving Quinn away unless they have real ambitions of moving up and snagging Claussen.

Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme at QB??? Really?

Also, Delhomme is an interesting pickup, because he would return to a West Coast Offense. Something he was very good at in Carolina.

He would pick up the offense really fast and can start right away. Meanwhile, I imagine Holmgren's looking pretty long and hard at this upcoming Quarterback class. I'd be shocked if they didn't take a Quarterback within the first 3 rounds.

Mecca
03-15-2010, 08:00 PM
Oh no I have summoned the great Sauto beast, now I will be followed around with annoyance for an hour, please god help me.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2010, 08:01 PM
Oh no I have summoned the great Sauto beast, now I will be followed around with annoyance for an hour, please god help me.

shut the fuck up. dont be a dumbass
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Mecca
03-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Oh cmon that was funny.

I also enjoyed how you took that comment to just be about the Chiefs when it wasn't.

PGM
03-15-2010, 08:06 PM
I would trust Holmgren on this one.

He knows a thing or two (or three) about Quarterbacks.

I can't argue that. I get that he's using Delhomme/Wallace as a stopgap until they get something better, but I would have given Quinn a legit chance before giving up on him. I know most will say bust, but IMO he hasn't had a consistent run of starts to show what he is at this level.

JASONSAUTO
03-15-2010, 08:07 PM
Oh cmon that was funny.

I also enjoyed how you took that comment to just be about the Chiefs when it wasn't.

i didnt take it to be Just about the chiefs, but i would be willing to bet it was mostly about the chiefs
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Von Dumbass
03-15-2010, 08:14 PM
I would trust Holmgren on this one.

He knows a thing or two (or three) about Quarterbacks.

So does McDaniels.

DaneMcCloud
03-15-2010, 08:37 PM
Also, Delhomme is an interesting pickup, because he would return to a West Coast Offense. Something he was very good at in Carolina.

He would pick up the offense really fast and can start right away. Meanwhile, I imagine Holmgren's looking pretty long and hard at this upcoming Quarterback class. I'd be shocked if they didn't take a Quarterback within the first 3 rounds.

Delhomme fucking sucks and nearly got everyone in Carolina fired.

:shake:

rockymtnchief
03-15-2010, 09:55 PM
So does McDaniels.

:spock:
Really? Just what does he know and who has he developed?

Comparing those two, at this point, is idiotic.

salame
03-15-2010, 11:56 PM
oakland is loading up on former 3-4 players....................

Von Dumbass
03-16-2010, 06:47 AM
:spock:
Really? Just what does he know and who has he developed?

Comparing those two, at this point, is idiotic.

Brady had his best 4 years of his career when McDaniels became his QB coach, had the best season ever for a QB when McDaniels was his OC/QB coach, and had his worst season in a long time when McDaniels was with the Broncos.

McDaniels also made a player who only has started 16 games since H.S. $60,000,000.

Lets not forget the magic he worked with Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton.

It's not like Holmgren has coached Quinn either. He is just the GM.

rockymtnchief
03-16-2010, 07:53 AM
Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Matt Hasselbeck.

Tom Brady was already a Pro-Bowl qb (2001)when the midget became his coach (2004). And I still don't see any "magic" in Orton.

ChiefGator
03-16-2010, 09:56 AM
And I still don't see any "magic" in Orton.

This...

Dave Lane
03-16-2010, 09:59 AM
So does McDaniels.

Yep cuz he's seven and thinks neck beard is awesome.