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|Zach|
03-16-2010, 05:07 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3/16/1376317/chiefs-bringing-in-lb-sean

The Kansas City Chiefs are getting to work on their private visits in preparation for the NFL Draft in late April. We've learned the names of two first round prospects the Chiefs will be bringing to town -- Mizzou LB Sean Witherspoon and Texas S Earl Thomas.

Both are being reported by Scout.com (via WtexKC)

I think these two workouts are interesting because both would likely be available in the middle of the first round. Perhaps a trade down? The Chiefs are just being prepared.

A little more info on each player after the jump.



Sean Weatherspoon

Witherspoon is a local guy so a lot of people know him. He's 6'1", 239 pounds and a lot of folks have him going to the Atlanta Falcons in the first round.

I've heard him described as a better fit for a 4-3 than a 3-4.

He's rated the third overall linebacker by NFL Draft Scout.

The Chiefs will also have a local pro day for guys from Mizzou so I'm not sure how Weatherspoon fits into that.

Chiefs GM Scott Pioli went to Mizzou's game against Nebraska in Columbia last season. I remember he talked about it on one of the local radio stations the next day and mentioned that there was a great defensive player on both sides of the field (Suh and Weatherspoon?).

Earl Thomas

Thomas is coming out of Texas and is 5'10", 208 pounds.

He's generally the second ranked safety behind Eric Berry but interestingly Mike Mayock of NFL Network had him above Berry.

He's another guy that could be available in the middle-to-end of the first round.

(H/T WtexKC for the first FanShots)

Tribal Warfare
03-16-2010, 05:08 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=225001

repost

Reaper16
03-16-2010, 05:10 PM
I know two UDFA candidates that the Chiefs are bringing in for private workouts, heh:
Myles Burnsides, S, Northwest Missouri State University
LaRon Council, RB, Northwest Missouri State University

Bane
03-16-2010, 05:10 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=225001

repost

ROFL
rep

|Zach|
03-16-2010, 05:11 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=225001

repost

Yea, like I am going actually read anything from all of you clowns in draft planet. I would rather stick a needle in my eye.

Reaper16
03-16-2010, 05:12 PM
Yea, like I am going actually read anything from all of you clowns in draft planet. I would rather stick a needle in my eye.
Hate hate hate hate!

ChiTown
03-16-2010, 05:14 PM
Yea, like I am going actually read anything from all of you clowns in draft planet. I would rather stick a needle in my eye.

Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?

BryanBusby
03-16-2010, 05:14 PM
Makes sense that they would bring in Weatherspoon for a workout. He's a good player and is a local kid, so he wouldn't count against the cap for the amount of players they can look at. They'd only be out of the time spent and the money to bring him in, etc. They sure aren't spending the money on the current roster, so they have plenty of cash to splurge talent searching.

L.A. Chieffan
03-16-2010, 05:15 PM
draft planet is the major reason im here usually

Mr. Laz
03-16-2010, 05:16 PM
Pioli should be fire ... how dare he bring these guys that haven't won a super bowl or national championship in for a look.

worthless bastard!! :cuss:

Pablo
03-16-2010, 05:17 PM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?It's a place where posters can take a staunch stand on important issues and freely(or not so freely) exchange their beliefs and ideas.

It's the Football D.C.

ROFL

siberian khatru
03-16-2010, 05:20 PM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?

I could see putting all the mock drafts in the subforum, but yeah, I got no problem with news like this being on the big board.

Now, putting an "I just saw a 7-month old movie" thread on the front page ...

Mizzou_8541
03-16-2010, 05:23 PM
I know two UDFA candidates that the Chiefs are bringing in for private workouts, heh:
Myles Burnsides, S, Northwest Missouri State University
LaRon Council, RB, Northwest Missouri State University

I wondered about Burnsides. I just figured he was a very good D-II player and much too slow to be given a serious look. That being said, I have no idea.

BIG_DADDY
03-16-2010, 05:25 PM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?

I agree, it was a good post. I don't even look in the other forum.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-16-2010, 05:26 PM
Just an idea I proposed earlier:

Trade down with the Bills to 9, getting their second and sixth in the process.

Take Dan Williams.

Package 2b and 2c together to move back into the first and take Weatherspoon around 18.

Hopefully find a safety and slot receiver in rounds 3 and 4

Just an idea:

1.9: Dan Williams
1.18: Weatherspoon
2.4: Jerry Hughes
3.5: Nate Allen
4.4: Andre Roberts
5a: Brandon Lang
5b:Harry Coleman
5c:Lonyae Miller

That addresses NT, both safety spots, gives you two rush backers, a slot WR/return man, and a RB to tandem with Charles once Jones is out to pasture.

Plus, Weatherspoon is your de facto defensive leader.

Take a QB next year.

Micjones
03-16-2010, 05:30 PM
Just an idea I proposed earlier:

Trade down with the Bills to 9, getting their second and sixth in the process.

Take Dan Williams.

Package 2b and 2c together to move back into the first and take Weatherspoon around 18.

Hopefully find a safety and slot receiver in rounds 3 and 4

Just an idea:

1.9: Dan Williams
1.18: Weatherspoon
2.4: Jerry Hughes
3.5: Nate Allen
4.4: Andre Roberts
5a: Brandon Lang
5b:Harry Coleman
5c:Lonyae Miller

That addresses NT, both safety spots, gives you two rush backers, a slot WR/return man, and a RB to tandem with Charles once Jones is out to pasture.

Plus, Weatherspoon is your de facto defensive leader.

Take a QB next year.

Would love to have Weatherspoon.
You really think Nate Allen will still be around in the Third Round?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-16-2010, 05:31 PM
Would love to have Weatherspoon.
You really think Nate Allen will still be around in the Third Round?

He's a late 2nd to early third rounder, and guys like that generally drop because someone makes a stupid reach in the mid second.

It happens every year.

Micjones
03-16-2010, 05:34 PM
He's a late 2nd to early third rounder, and guys like that generally drop because someone makes a stupid reach in the mid second.

It happens every year.

I hope you're right. If we got him in the Third Round it'd be great value.
Nate Allen is definitely on my wishlist. As is Spoon...

seaofred
03-16-2010, 05:34 PM
I would be fine with taking Spoon at #5...

Simply Red
03-16-2010, 05:36 PM
draft planet is the major reason im here usually

that and, Great sea urchin ceviche.

L.A. Chieffan
03-16-2010, 05:40 PM
that and, Great sea urchin ceviche.

ooo, SR! Squash?

AustinChief
03-16-2010, 05:44 PM
Just an idea I proposed earlier:

Trade down with the Bills to 9, getting their second and sixth in the process.

Take Dan Williams.

Package 2b and 2c together to move back into the first and take Weatherspoon around 18.

Hopefully find a safety and slot receiver in rounds 3 and 4

Just an idea:

1.9: Dan Williams
1.18: Weatherspoon
2.4: Jerry Hughes
3.5: Nate Allen
4.4: Andre Roberts
5a: Brandon Lang
5b:Harry Coleman
5c:Lonyae Miller

That addresses NT, both safety spots, gives you two rush backers, a slot WR/return man, and a RB to tandem with Charles once Jones is out to pasture.

Plus, Weatherspoon is your de facto defensive leader.

Take a QB next year.

What if we traded with Miami (let's say they are the only/best offer on the table)... would you be oppossed to taking Earl Thomas with the #12 pick? (assuming Dan Williams is gone)

and then having this be the draft....

1.12 E Thomas
2.4 J Hughes
2.11 BPA
2.18 C Thomas
3.5 BPA

(leaving the rest of your draft the same.) We get one extra pick and can cover all the same positions but miss on Spoon

(remember this is based on a Miami trade being the only one out there)

AustinChief
03-16-2010, 05:46 PM
What if we traded with Miami (let's say they are the only/best offer on the table)... would you be oppossed to taking Earl Thomas with the #12 pick? (assuming Dan Williams is gone)

and then having this be the draft....

1.12 E Thomas
2.4 J Hughes
2.11 BPA
2.18 C Thomas
3.5 BPA

(leaving the rest of your draft the same.) We get one extra pick and can cover all the same positions but miss on Spoon

(remember this is based on a Miami trade being the only one out there)

and I know that is a bit high for C Thomas but that becomes a NEED pick and he certainly shouldn't make it to the third.

AustinChief
03-16-2010, 06:45 PM
Did my last post offically kill this thread? :)

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2010, 06:49 PM
NOOOO. We don't need the Mizzouchebagification of the Chiefs to begin.

Nightfyre
03-16-2010, 06:51 PM
Just an idea I proposed earlier:

Trade down with the Bills to 9, getting their second and sixth in the process.

Take Dan Williams.

Package 2b and 2c together to move back into the first and take Weatherspoon around 18.

Hopefully find a safety and slot receiver in rounds 3 and 4

Just an idea:

1.9: Dan Williams
1.18: Weatherspoon
2.4: Jerry Hughes
3.5: Nate Allen
4.4: Andre Roberts
5a: Brandon Lang
5b:Harry Coleman
5c:Lonyae Miller

That addresses NT, both safety spots, gives you two rush backers, a slot WR/return man, and a RB to tandem with Charles once Jones is out to pasture.

Plus, Weatherspoon is your de facto defensive leader.

Take a QB next year.

Again, I ask you, is Weatherspoon worth Damian Williams and Jamar Chaney? or any 2 of the second round prospects you may fancy?

Nightfyre
03-16-2010, 06:52 PM
What if we traded with Miami (let's say they are the only/best offer on the table)... would you be oppossed to taking Earl Thomas with the #12 pick? (assuming Dan Williams is gone)

and then having this be the draft....

1.12 E Thomas
2.4 J Hughes
2.11 BPA
2.18 C Thomas
3.5 BPA

(leaving the rest of your draft the same.) We get one extra pick and can cover all the same positions but miss on Spoon

(remember this is based on a Miami trade being the only one out there)

2.11 Damian Williams, 2.18 Jamar Chaney 3.5/4.5 Linval joseph and you have single handedly filled tons of holes.

Saccopoo
03-16-2010, 06:56 PM
Just an idea I proposed earlier:

Trade down with the Bills to 9, getting their second and sixth in the process.

Take Dan Williams.

Package 2b and 2c together to move back into the first and take Weatherspoon around 18.

Hopefully find a safety and slot receiver in rounds 3 and 4

Just an idea:

1.9: Dan Williams
1.18: Weatherspoon
2.4: Jerry Hughes
3.5: Nate Allen
4.4: Andre Roberts
5a: Brandon Lang
5b:Harry Coleman
5c:Lonyae Miller

That addresses NT, both safety spots, gives you two rush backers, a slot WR/return man, and a RB to tandem with Charles once Jones is out to pasture.

Plus, Weatherspoon is your de facto defensive leader.

Take a QB next year.

I don't see how that addresses any of the larger issues dealing with the inadequacies and deficiencies on the offensive line.

F-.

Saccopoo
03-16-2010, 06:57 PM
that and, Great sea urchin ceviche.

I do so love Uni. Got to be fresh though. Really fresh.

If it's fresh, it's almost like a desert.

AustinChief
03-16-2010, 06:59 PM
2.11 Damian Williams, 2.18 Jamar Chaney 3.5/4.5 Linval joseph and you have single handedly filled tons of holes.

Holy hell I forgot about Joseph... yeah I would rather not reach on C. Thomas at 2.18 and take Joseph at 4.5 if he is there.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-16-2010, 07:10 PM
What if we traded with Miami (let's say they are the only/best offer on the table)... would you be oppossed to taking Earl Thomas with the #12 pick? (assuming Dan Williams is gone)

and then having this be the draft....

1.12 E Thomas
2.4 J Hughes
2.11 BPA
2.18 C Thomas
3.5 BPA

(leaving the rest of your draft the same.) We get one extra pick and can cover all the same positions but miss on Spoon

(remember this is based on a Miami trade being the only one out there)

If I'm moving down to 12, I'd take Taylor Mays over Earl Thomas. Also, if I'm moving down to 12, I'm moving back into the first, because this team needs impact players.

It would look something like this:

1.12: Mays/Haden
1.18: Weatherspoon
2.4: Hughes
3.5: Linval Joseph
4-7: Same

DeezNutz
03-16-2010, 07:11 PM
No, offensive linemen? What a ****ing joke. /Geoffrey Choker

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-16-2010, 07:12 PM
Again, I ask you, is Weatherspoon worth Damian Williams and Jamar Chaney? or any 2 of the second round prospects you may fancy?

Yes.

Weatherspoon is a guy, who while not worth it at 5, will make the entire back seven better because of his leadership (not to mention his sideline-sideline range.

Chocolate Hog
03-16-2010, 07:12 PM
Fuck that if we trade down we better draft Brandon Graham. Until this team gets an actual pass rusher this defense will continue to suck.

Chocolate Hog
03-16-2010, 07:16 PM
I meant we beter draft Graham because Hughes will be drafted before the Chiefs pick in round 2.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-16-2010, 07:17 PM
Fuck that if we trade down we better draft Brandon Graham. Until this team gets an actual pass rusher this defense will continue to suck.

Brandon Graham is not worth the 12th pick in the draft.

If you'd want him at 20, I could see that.

However, the odds of the Chiefs taking either Graham or Hughes is very low. They aren't long enough to fit the profile.

Guys like Sapp, Kindle, Lang, Lindsey Witten are all much more likely.

Chocolate Hog
03-16-2010, 07:22 PM
Brandon Graham is not worth the 12th pick in the draft.

If you'd want him at 20, I could see that.

However, the odds of the Chiefs taking either Graham or Hughes is very low. They aren't long enough to fit the profile.

Guys like Sapp, Kindle, Lang, Lindsey Witten are all much more likely.

What do you mean by long enough? If they draft Kindle over Graham because he's an inch taller thats fucking stupid.

AustinChief
03-16-2010, 07:26 PM
I don't see how that addresses any of the larger issues dealing with the inadequacies and deficiencies on the offensive line.

F-.

ok how about this draft to see if I can satisfy as many people as I can at once (not saying this is what I would personally want)

TRADE DOWN WITH MIAMI

1.12 E Thomas FS
2.4 J Hughes OLB
2.11 Demaryius Thomas WR
2.18 Vladimir Ducasse OT
3.5 Linval Joseph NT
4.4: J.D. Walton/Matt Tennant C
5a: Brandon Lang OLB
5b:Harry Coleman SS
5c:Lonyae Miller RB

OR

1.12 Sergio Kindle OLB
2.4 and 2.11 traded for 1.16 Taylor Mays S
2.18 Vladimir Ducasse OT
3.5 Linval Joseph NT
4.4: J.D. Walton/Matt Tennant C
5a: Brandon Lang OLB
5b:Harry Coleman SS
5c:Lonyae Miller RB

Kindle and Mays picks may have to be swapped... not sure

Count Alex's Wins
03-16-2010, 07:27 PM
I wonder how Hamas would deal with the Chiefs taking Spoon at 5. He'd be fighting these conflicting emotions....fuck, a linebacker at 5....wait, fuck, we got my boy spoon...fuck, Pioli! FUCK, MIZZOU! FUUUUUUUUUUU*******! He would probably just not post out of inner turmoil.

BryanBusby
03-16-2010, 07:30 PM
That first mock looks much better than the 2nd Austin.

AustinChief
03-16-2010, 07:34 PM
That first mock looks much better than the 2nd Austin.

I agree, I'd rather have E. Thomas, J Hughes and D. Thomas over just Kindle and Mays.

Nightfyre
03-16-2010, 08:16 PM
1.12 Sean Weatherspoon
2.4 Maurkice Pouncey
2.11 Jerry Hughes
2.18 Damian Williams
3.4 Linval Joseph/Cam Thomas (if he miraculously falls)
4.4 Sam Young

There. Its POSSIBLE although somewhat unlikely.

Mecca
03-16-2010, 09:02 PM
1.12 Sean Weatherspoon
2.4 Maurkice Pouncey
2.11 Jerry Hughes
2.18 Damian Williams
3.4 Linval Joseph/Cam Thomas (if he miraculously falls)
4.4 Sam Young

There. Its POSSIBLE although somewhat unlikely.

That draft makes me want to kill myself, so good possibility it happens.

Nightfyre
03-16-2010, 09:06 PM
That draft makes me want to kill myself, so good possibility it happens.

:D I do what I can. It is full of Boom/Bust prospects. What can I say? I like 'em.

Mecca
03-16-2010, 09:08 PM
I don't really like the value either, Weatherspoon should go to a 4-3 team, I think you also gave the Chiefs 2 guys who are going in the 1st round at the top of the 2nd.

Nightfyre
03-16-2010, 09:34 PM
I don't really like the value either, Weatherspoon should go to a 4-3 team, I think you also gave the Chiefs 2 guys who are going in the 1st round at the top of the 2nd.

I have pouncey going to the saints, but he could fall. Hughes, I just don't see going in the first. Probably earlier in the second than I have him at.

Mecca
03-16-2010, 09:36 PM
Hughes to the Jets...

CoMoChief
03-16-2010, 10:11 PM
I would be fine with taking Spoon at #5...

:shake:

Demonpenz
03-16-2010, 11:25 PM
I have a feeling spoon would be like the black guy and vrabel would be the white guy like in the white cop black cop movie. they would feed off each other

Chiefs=Good
03-17-2010, 12:24 AM
I have a feeling spoon would be like the black guy and vrabel would be the white guy like in the white cop black cop movie. they would feed off each other

Im too old for this shit...

Reaper16
03-17-2010, 12:25 AM
I have a feeling spoon would be like the black guy and vrabel would be the white guy like in the white cop black cop movie. they would feed off each other
Unfortunately Pioli is going to draft Baluga -- the real Lethal Weapon. He'll kill fan enthusiasm dead.

Cosmos
03-17-2010, 01:08 AM
I know two UDFA candidates that the Chiefs are bringing in for private workouts, heh:
Myles Burnsides, S, Northwest Missouri State University
LaRon Council, RB, Northwest Missouri State University

The cab ride price was right.

|Zach|
03-17-2010, 01:09 AM
Unfortunately Pioli is going to draft Baluga -- the real Lethal Weapon. He'll kill fan enthusiasm dead.

Only for armchair GMs. Most fans will care about an improved product on the field. I think we are building that.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-17-2010, 01:34 AM
I wonder how Hamas would deal with the Chiefs taking Spoon at 5. He'd be fighting these conflicting emotions....fuck, a linebacker at 5....wait, fuck, we got my boy spoon...fuck, Pioli! FUCK, MIZZOU! FUUUUUUUUUUU*******! He would probably just not post out of inner turmoil.

I'd create a True Fan alter ego. Something akin to The Meat Dragon.

I'd probably call him "The Cock Skink".

I'd devote entire threads to bashing TCS, and others defending Pioli.

Most likely it would rend the fabric of spacetime and every molecule in my body would explode at the speed of light.

KCChiefsFan88
03-17-2010, 02:03 AM
The Chiefs draft will be amazingly pathetic if they don't come away with offensive linemen and WRs who can contribute immediately next season.

Tuckdaddy
03-17-2010, 06:08 AM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?

This board is a toilet. People post about taking a crap and ask the same stupid questions over and over again.

Very little football talk.

milkman
03-17-2010, 06:20 AM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?

This is a battle that Direckshun and I ( and a couple others) fought to no avail a couple of years ago.

BigMeatballDave
03-17-2010, 06:37 AM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?
This. I never really understood why we have a secondary forum for the draft. I spend very little time there. This is not a repost for me. If I find any draft news I will post them in the Lounge.
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Tom_A_Hawk
03-17-2010, 07:25 AM
Seriously, why do we have another board for football related posts like the NFL Draft? Is the Lounge no longer a place to talk football?

who would have thought you would have to go to a sub forum on the board to talk football. Only Chiefsplanet where the most stupid shit it talked about.

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-17-2010, 09:39 AM
I have a feeling spoon would be like the black guy and vrabel would be the white guy like in the white cop black cop movie. they would feed off each other

/

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-17-2010, 09:41 AM
The Chiefs draft will be amazingly pathetic if they don't come away with offensive linemen and WRs who can contribute immediately next season.

It's not :banghead: about :banghead: next season :banghead:

8-8 FTW!!!!!

Dark Horse
03-17-2010, 10:53 AM
It's not :banghead: about :banghead: next season :banghead:

8-8 FTW!!!!!

which is why we should not draft to fill holes BPA all the way.

KCChiefsFan88
03-17-2010, 11:17 AM
It's not :banghead: about :banghead: next season :banghead:

8-8 FTW!!!!!

If the Chiefs keep delaying the building of an important component of the team's foundation on offense... which is building a strong offensive line... the Chiefs won't be contenders in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2050, 3000...

Pasta Giant Meatball
03-17-2010, 11:35 AM
If the Chiefs keep delaying the building of an important component of the team's foundation on offense... which is a top notch QB... the Chiefs won't be contenders in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2050, 3000...

FYP

Danman
03-17-2010, 12:01 PM
If the Chiefs keep delaying the building of an important component of the team's foundation on offense... which is building a strong offensive line... the Chiefs won't be contenders in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2050, 3000...


How many offensive tackles, offensive guards, or centers have won an MVP of a superbowl? How many TDs did they directly score. How many TD did they prevent the opponent from scoring? If we get playmakers, who knows, we may compete this year. We are in the AFC Worst.

It's not 1970,1980,1990, or 2000. A great Offensive line is not all that important - you can win with an average or even below average offensive line. A great franchise QB and playmakers on both offense and defense is what wins games.

milkman
03-17-2010, 12:11 PM
How many offensive tackles, offensive guards, or centers have won an MVP of a superbowl? How many TDs did they directly score. How many TD did they prevent the opponent from scoring? If we get playmakers, who knows, we may compete this year. We are in the AFC Worst.

It's not 1970,1980,1990, or 2000. A great Offensive line is not all that important - you can win with an average or even below average offensive line. A great franchise QB and playmakers on both offense and defense is what wins games.

While I certainly don't agree with the idiot, I also don't agree with this either.

While the Steelers won a SB with an average O-Line, and the Colts went to a SB with a slightly better than average O-Line, those are not the norm.

Your best chance of winning and competing every year is to draft playmakers and to build both the O-Line and D-line.

But it isn't necessary to spend high draft picks to build those lines.