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RedThat
03-17-2010, 10:03 AM
What would you think of this defensive lineup:

LE T. Jackson
NT S. Smith----->(competition between him and Cam Thomas)
RE Dorsey
OLB Hali
ILB Vrabel
ILB D. Johnson
OLB ???? Pass rusher(hopefully J Hughes)
CB Flowers
CB Carr
FS Berry
SS Morgan (assuming he surprises this year)

*Im expecting to receive criticism from putting Vrabel in there because Im aware many of you don't like him, but go ahead and flame away. Like it or not, he is here, and is going to play a role one way or another. At least we could say, DJ and Vrabel would be more of an improvement over C. Mays and D. Williams?

My chiefs mock only for rds 1 &2:

1-Berry
2a-J Hughes
2b-C Thomas

Bane
03-17-2010, 10:04 AM
LE Tyson Jackson....:shake:
FAIL!
As far as the 3 draft picks you show......:thumb:

Pestilence
03-17-2010, 10:05 AM
LE - T. Jackson
NT - S. Smith
RE - G. Dorsey

OLB - Hali
ILB - D. Johnson
ILB - D. Williams
OLB - J. Hughes

CB - B. Flowers
CB - B. Carr
FS - E. Berry
SS - D. Morgan

-King-
03-17-2010, 10:05 AM
Why the fuck is Vrabel still starting?

Bane
03-17-2010, 10:06 AM
Why the **** is Vrabel still starting?

Clearly because there's no other LB out there that can match his awesomeness!:cuss:
ROFL

Maybe he has potty pics of Pioli.

-King-
03-17-2010, 10:07 AM
LE - T. Jackson
NT - S. Smith
RE - G. Dorsey

OLB - Hali
ILB - D. Johnson
ILB - D. Williams
OLB - J. Hughes

CB - B. Flowers
CB - B. Carr
FS - E. Berry
SS - D. Morgan


Can Morgan play SS? I don't think he's that good of a run supporter to play it. Honestly, I'd rather have McGraw play it. He can run support and Berry can worry about the pass.

MVChiefFan
03-17-2010, 10:17 AM
We're gonna draft the heck out of defense, so these rookies look good to me. However, I want NO part of Morgan at SS. Maybe we need to address that position in the draft as well. I know it's a little scary to have two rookie safeties but, really, who else do we have?

Detoxing
03-17-2010, 10:19 AM
LE - T. Jackson
NT - S. Smith
RE - G. Dorsey

OLB - Hali
ILB - D. Johnson
ILB - D. Williams
OLB - J. Hughes

CB - B. Flowers
CB - B. Carr
FS - E. Berry
SS - D. Morgan

Is this a list of who we want to start, or who will actually start?

Actually start will look something like this:

LE: Jackson
NT: Smith w/ Edwards on 3rd down
RE: Dorsey

OLB: Hali
ILB: Johnson
ILB: Mays w/ Belcher on 3rd down
OLB: Studebaker

CB: Flowers
CB: Carr
SS: Mike Brown
FS: Berry

Want to Start:

LE: Jackson
NT: Smith w/ Rookie rotating in
RE: Dorsey

OLB: Hali
ILB: Johnson
ILB: 2nd rnd Rookie
OLB: Studebaker w/ 3rd rnd rook rotating in

CB: Flowers
CB: Carr
SS: Page
FS: Berry

Detoxing
03-17-2010, 10:20 AM
Can Morgan play SS? I don't think he's that good of a run supporter to play it. Honestly, I'd rather have McGraw play it. He can run support and Berry can worry about the pass.

Morgan can't play SS. No way. Dude looked soft as hell out there last season. I can see why the coaches don't start him.

-King-
03-17-2010, 10:22 AM
Is this a list of who we want to start, or who will actually start?

Actually start will look something like this:


SS: Mike Brown


Mike Brown is a FA right now and it doesn't look like the Chiefs will re-sign him.







And now that I've said that... watch him be re-signed tonight

-King-
03-17-2010, 10:23 AM
Morgan can't play SS. No way. Dude looked soft as hell out there last season. I can see why the coaches don't start him.

That's what I thought.

RedThat
03-17-2010, 10:45 AM
Morgan can't play SS. No way. Dude looked soft as hell out there last season. I can see why the coaches don't start him.

I think having Morgan at SS, we both gain and lose.

We'd gain in the coverage department since he has both more speed and athletic ability than McGraw.

On the other hand, you may be right, he'd be a liability on run defense since he lacks physical toughness, and tackling ability.

Danman
03-17-2010, 10:55 AM
I'd rather Take Cody than Thomas. He plugs up a lot more.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2010, 11:05 AM
I think having Morgan at SS, we both gain and lose.

We'd gain in the coverage department since he has both more speed and athletic ability than McGraw.

On the other hand, you may be right, he'd be a liability on run defense since he lacks physical toughness, and tackling ability.
you realize that all this stuff about Morgan is just wishful thinking ... he hasn't shown a dam thing.

i hope he works out too but he couldn't even beat out MrGraw,Brown. The chiefs even went to Leggitt for safety help before Morgan.

The Bad Guy
03-17-2010, 11:12 AM
They need to draft an ILB. Vrabel isn't an ILB anymore.

CaliforniaChief
03-17-2010, 11:17 AM
They need to draft an ILB. Vrabel isn't an ILB anymore.

This.

I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE it if we could get Pat Angerer from Iowa in the 4th round. He is one of those guys who seems to always be where the play goes...great instincts, makes up for lack of athleticism with heart and intelligence.

RedThat
03-17-2010, 11:18 AM
you realize that all this stuff about Morgan is just wishful thinking ... he hasn't shown a dam thing.

i hope he works out too but he couldn't even beat out MrGraw,Brown. The chiefs even went to Leggitt for safety help before Morgan.

True. Thanks for the wakeup call.

MahiMike
03-17-2010, 11:18 AM
I'd be surprised if we don't get another LB in the 2nd round. Spikes would be good.

aturnis
03-17-2010, 01:24 PM
LE - T. Jackson
NT - S. Smith
RE - G. Dorsey

OLB - Hali
ILB - D. Johnson
ILB - D. Williams
OLB - J. Hughes

CB - B. Flowers
CB - B. Carr
FS - E. Berry
SS - D. Morgan

:shake:

Mr. Laz
03-17-2010, 01:28 PM
True. Thanks for the wakeup call.
i wasn't trying to be a jerk or whatever ... but seriously, alot of people keep throwing Morgan's name out there like he is a vialbe options for anything other than special teams.

Maybe he CAN be but so far he been lost and soft.


At this point, it would be just as feasible to tell Derrick Johnson to lose weight and try him at strong safety as count on Morgan to start.

aturnis
03-17-2010, 01:33 PM
Morgan is a liability in coverage too. Watch last years preaseason games. The guy couldn't even hold his own with 3rd stringers. He kept on trying to make a play on the ball instead of on him man and came up with big fat whiffs. With the 3rd string receiver already behind him with the ball, it spells disaster unless his teammate clean it up for him. Imagine the liability he becomes facing Marshall/Royal/Stokely.

Marcellus
03-17-2010, 01:39 PM
Morgan can't play SS. No way. Dude looked soft as hell out there last season. I can see why the coaches don't start him.

How dare ye cast doubt on thy savior Morgan. He is the greatest talent to never do an impressive thing in a game since Chris Wilson.

Oh wait, Chris Wilson actually saw the field more.

Carry on.

Marcellus
03-17-2010, 01:42 PM
Morgan is a liability in coverage too. Watch last years preaseason games. The guy couldn't even hold his own with 3rd stringers. He kept on trying to make a play on the ball instead of on him man and came up with big fat whiffs. With the 3rd string receiver already behind him with the ball, it spells disaster unless his teammate clean it up for him. Imagine the liability he becomes facing Marshall/Royal/Stokely.


Careful now, go easy. You are about to incur the wrath of the know everything genuis tribe.

Inexplicably they spent great deals of time last year bitching that Morgan wasn't on the field and then defending his poor to mediocre play after he did get on the field.

MOhillbilly
03-17-2010, 01:51 PM
were so fucked.

RedThat
03-17-2010, 02:26 PM
i wasn't trying to be a jerk or whatever ... but seriously, alot of people keep throwing Morgan's name out there like he is a vialbe options for anything other than special teams.

Maybe he CAN be but so far he been lost and soft.


At this point, it would be just as feasible to tell Derrick Johnson to lose weight and try him at strong safety as count on Morgan to start.

It's all good Laz. Never thought of you that way so no worries.

But I agree with you, you have a point, at this point in his career Morgan hasn't shown much.

*McGraw is probably the best guy for the SS job. I thought he played well at times last year, but he is a liability in coverage that's my concern with him due to lack of speed.

Silock
03-17-2010, 02:27 PM
Whatever happened to Page?

Buehler445
03-17-2010, 03:07 PM
Whatever happened to Page?


Got broken and put on IR.
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Silock
03-17-2010, 03:11 PM
So, we're just giving up on him?

Mr. Laz
03-17-2010, 03:15 PM
So, we're just giving up on him?
no, but he hasn't been much help in coverage and will miss a tackle way too frequently.

would prefer an upgrade tbh

Flowers/Berry/Page/Carr wouldn't be terrible next year though

i still don't know what they hell we are going to do at linebacker though.

Hali/Williams/Mays/Vrabel just doesn't get it done imo

a better NT will help though

Buehler445
03-17-2010, 03:16 PM
So, we're just giving up on him?

No clue what the front office will do, but I really hope he can be a viable player. If we give up on him, that is ANOTHER goddamn player we have to find. Currently, even if we draft Berry, who the fuck is going to back him up?
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