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petegz28
03-19-2010, 11:51 AM
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EXCLUSIVE -- Democrats plan doc fix after reform - Live Pulse: EXCLUSIVE -- Democrats plan doc fix after reformMarch 19, 2010
Categories:House .EXCLUSIVE -- Democrats plan doc fix after reform
Democrats are planning to introduce legislation later this spring that would permanently repeal annual Medicare cuts to doctors, but are warning lawmakers not to talk about it for fear that it will complicate their push to pass comprehensive health reform. The plans undercut the party's message that reform lowers the deficit, according to a memo obtained by POLITICO.

Democrats removed the so-called doc fix from the reform legislation last year because its $371-billion price tag would have made it impossible for Democrats to claim that their bill reduces the deficit. Republicans have argued for months that by stripping the doc fix from the bill, Democrats were playing a shell game.

“Most health staff are already aware that our health proposal does not contain a 'doc fix.' … The inclusion of a full SGR repeal would undermine reform’s budget neutrality. So again, do not allow yourself (or your boss) to get into a discussion of the details of CBO scores and textual narrative. Instead, focus only on the deficit reduction and number of Americans covered,” the memo, sent Thursday to Democratic staff, said.

“As most health staff knows, leadership and the White House are working with the AMA to rally physicians for a full SGR repeal later this spring. However, both health and communications staff should understand we do not want that policy discussion discussed at this time, lest (it) complicate the last critical push to pass health reform,” according to the memo.

The memo helps explains why the American Medical Association has supported reform even though their top legislative priority, the doc fix, was left out. The group is working behind the scenes with Democratic leadership and the White House to fix the cuts later this year.

Indeed, in a statement this afternoon, the AMA announced its support for the reconciliation bill -- and hinted that the debate is not over with reform's passage.

“This is not the last step, but the next step toward real health system reform. We will remain actively engaged with Congress and the administration to ensure that before Congress adjourns there are additional important changes to our health system," AMA president James Rohack said. "Congress must act to preserve access to care for seniors and military families by permanently repealing the Medicare physician payment formula that will cut Medicare payments by 21 percent next month.”

The memo also repeatedly advises Democrats not to discuss the details of the CBO score.

“We cannot emphasize this enough: do not allow yourself (or your boss) to get into a discussion of the details of CBO scores and textual narrative. Instead, focus only on the deficit reduction and number of Americans covered," the memo says

Posted by Chris Frates 12:46 PM

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/EXCLUSIVE__Democrats_plan_doc_fix_after_reform.html?showall

orange
03-19-2010, 04:34 PM
Funny. I clicked your link and it says this:

UPDATE: Democrats challenge authenticity of ‘doc fix’ memo

An earlier post in this spot detailed what was purported by Republicans to be an internal Democratic memo regarding the upcoming health reform vote Sunday. Democratic leadership has challenged the authenticity of the memo. POLITICO has removed the memo and the details about it until we can absolutely verify the document’s origin.

Posted by Chris Frates 12:46 PM

petegz28
03-19-2010, 05:30 PM
Uh funny, 4 hours later and it states the article was removed thus what I posted was there. Dumbass.

orange
03-19-2010, 05:42 PM
Uh funny, 4 hours later and it states the article was removed thus what I posted was there. Dumbass.

So you were played for a fool, then.

Good to know.

I guess Politico knows its audience.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 05:46 PM
So you were played for a fool, then.

Good to know.

I guess Politico knows its audience.

LMAO....keep talking, dickhead


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional budget scorekeepers say a Medicare fix that Democrats included in earlier versions of their health care bill would push it into the red.

The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that rolling back a programmed cut in Medicare fees to doctors would cost $208 billion over 10 years. If added back to the health care overhaul bill, it would wipe out all the deficit reduction, leaving the legislation $59 billion in the red.

The so-called doc fix was part of the original House bill. Because of its high cost, Democrats decided to pursue it separately. Republicans say the cost should not be ignored. Congress has usually waived the cuts to doctors year by year


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Medica....html?x=0&.v=2

bowener
03-19-2010, 05:47 PM
LMAO....keep talking, dickhead

Your yahoo link is 404.

orange
03-19-2010, 05:48 PM
Your yahoo link is 404.

He already posted it as a separate post ... where I've already replied to the dickhead-wannabe.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 05:51 PM
Your yahoo link is 404.

Works for me

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Medicare-fix-would-push-apf-2700343586.html?x=0&.v=2

bowener
03-19-2010, 05:52 PM
Works for me
<noscript>http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/search/info22x22.png</noscript>Sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found on Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/?fr=404_fin)

Showing related results for: <cite>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Medica....html?x=0&amp;.v=2</cite>

orange
03-19-2010, 05:56 PM
bowener,

Here's the whole blurb. Prepare to be disappointed:

Medicare fix would push health care into the red
Rollback of Medicare cuts to doctors, if added to health care bill, push it into the red

Buzz up! 3 Print
On Friday March 19, 2010, 6:33 pm EDT
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional budget scorekeepers say a Medicare fix that Democrats included in earlier versions of their health care bill would push it into the red.

The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that rolling back a programmed cut in Medicare fees to doctors would cost $208 billion over 10 years. If added back to the health care overhaul bill, it would wipe out all the deficit reduction, leaving the legislation $59 billion in the red.

The so-called doc fix was part of the original House bill. Because of its high cost, Democrats decided to pursue it separately. Republicans say the cost should not be ignored. Congress has usually waived the cuts to doctors year by year.


... if you were expecting something substantive.

Bwana
03-19-2010, 05:58 PM
Works for me

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Medicare-fix-would-push-apf-2700343586.html?x=0&.v=2

Medicare fix would push health care into the red

Rollback of Medicare cuts to doctors, if added to health care bill, push it into the red



<!-- ./end of article hd -->On Friday March 19, 2010, 6:33 pm EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional budget scorekeepers say a Medicare fix that Democrats included in earlier versions of their health care bill would push it into the red.


<!-- Article Related Media -->The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that rolling back a programmed cut in Medicare fees to doctors would cost $208 billion over 10 years. If added back to the health care overhaul bill, it would wipe out all the deficit reduction, leaving the legislation $59 billion in the red.

The so-called doc fix was part of the original House bill. Because of its high cost, Democrats decided to pursue it separately. Republicans say the cost should not be ignored. Congress has usually waived the cuts to doctors year by year.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 05:58 PM
<noscript>http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/search/info22x22.png</noscript>Sorry, the page you were looking for could not be found on Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/?fr=404_fin)

Showing related results for: <cite>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Medica....html?x=0&amp;.v=2</cite>

Still works for me

orange
03-19-2010, 06:01 PM
bowener,

Here's the whole blurb. Prepare to be disappointed:
... if you were expecting something substantive.

... and here's where petegzBOSSIE got it:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.douglasdale.co.za/images/colouring/CowChewingCud2.gif


LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

petegz28
03-19-2010, 06:17 PM
... and here's where petegzBOSSIE got it:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

http://www.douglasdale.co.za/images/colouring/CowChewingCud2.gif


LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

And that matters why? Just admit it, Orange. You were wrong...again. In fact save your breath. I will just continue to ignore you. Have fun, dickhead.

RNR
03-19-2010, 06:39 PM
And that matters why? Just admit it, Orange. You were wrong...again. In fact save your breath. I will just continue to ignore you. Have fun, dickhead.

For some reason I think Orange is a chick it seems I read that, if so you may have to adjust your slur~

orange
03-19-2010, 06:40 PM
For some reason I think Orange is a chick it seems I read that,

No; pure Grade A American bull.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 06:41 PM
For some reason I think Orange is a chick it seems I read that, if so you may have to adjust your slur~

Noted. :D

RNR
03-19-2010, 06:44 PM
No; pure Grade A American bull.

It was not intended as a cheap shot as for some reason I thought you were. Beats me where or what caused the mix up~

orange
03-19-2010, 07:01 PM
It was not intended as a cheap shot as for some reason I thought you were. Beats me where or what caused the mix up~

Well, I am in touch with my fe.... no, never mind. Not going there. ;)

RNR
03-19-2010, 07:04 PM
Well, I am in touch with my fe.... no, never mind. Not going there. ;)
I got in touch with my female side and found out the bitch is a lesbian :eek:

RINGLEADER
03-19-2010, 08:10 PM
So you were played for a fool, then.

Good to know.

I guess Politico knows its audience.

Actually, Pelosi said as much herself the other day. No way they enact/apply half the stuff the CBO is forced to score the bill on. The Dems go out and trumphet $1.2 trillion in savings when the CBO itself says it didn't say any such thing.

This bill is a sham and does almost none of the important things Obama recited as necessary to earn his signature. And all the politicians on the Dem side know it.

They can't explain why, if it is so good, they want to exclude the Dem constituencies from its effects. They can't explain why, if it is so good, they have to deem it passed rather than just voting on it. They can't explain why, if it is so good, they have to wait years before actually starting many of the so-called reforms. They all know why -- but politics prevents them from doing what is right for the country and instead they're doing what the narrow ideology of a few hard-left is telling them to do.

Sickening, albeit expected from Obama.