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bowener
03-19-2010, 03:25 PM
I went ahead and put this in DC, it would have inevitably ended up here anyway.
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petegz28
03-19-2010, 03:45 PM
I keep waiting for him to spam on Olberman or Matthews, but since no one watches them I guess people wouldn't know WTF he is talking about.

bowener
03-19-2010, 03:47 PM
I keep waiting for him to spam on Olberman or Matthews, but since no one watches them I guess people wouldn't know WTF he is talking about.

You have to admit that they and even O'Reilly (Hannity as well) are nowhere near as batshit crazy and/or retarded as Beck is.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 03:54 PM
You have to admit that they and even O'Reilly (Hannity as well) are nowhere near as batshit crazy and/or retarded as Beck is.

Beck is in a class all his own, I agree. But like Savage he is often spot on with a lot of his takes. Once you weed through a lot of the dramatic BS.

stevieray
03-19-2010, 04:00 PM
jon Stewart is a pussy.

BucEyedPea
03-19-2010, 04:01 PM
Beck is spot on about Progressives.:clap:

Is that bold type claiming Stewart is a conservative libertarian? It
s confusing. LOl. His defense here shows he's not that.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 04:04 PM
jon Stewart is a pussy.

I think Stewart is funny. I just get tired of his schtick of constantly slamming Repubs and Cons all the fucking time. And usually ignoring Dems doing worse. I know he is just for entertainment purposes but it gets old.

stevieray
03-19-2010, 04:17 PM
I know he is just for entertainment


disagree.

|Zach|
03-19-2010, 04:58 PM
I keep waiting for him to spam on Olberman or Matthews, but since no one watches them I guess people wouldn't know WTF he is talking about.

He calls out Olberman all the time. One time it was so obvious and popular Olberman responded to him on his own show.

People like you just see what they want to see.

petegz28
03-19-2010, 05:28 PM
He calls out Olberman all the time. One time it was so obvious and popular Olberman responded to him on his own show.

People like you just see what they want to see.

Or I have never seen him do it. People like you assume to much.

bowener
03-19-2010, 05:40 PM
Beck is spot on about Progressives.:clap:

Is that bold type claiming Stewart is a conservative libertarian? It
s confusing. LOl. His defense here shows he's not that.

So if Beck is spot on about progressives, and his insane logic used to get there is spot on as well, then is Stewart spot on about conservatives since he uses the same insane logic that Beck uses?

edit:

Also, if Beck is spot about progressives using his tard logic, I must support killing any and all unwanted children no matter there age (until reaching 18) since I support one's right to choose...

Reaper16
03-19-2010, 06:20 PM
LMAO

RNR
03-19-2010, 06:33 PM
I think Stewart is funny. I just get tired of his schtick of constantly slamming Repubs and Cons all the ****ing time. And usually ignoring Dems doing worse. I know he is just for entertainment purposes but it gets old.

I think he is funny and so is Bill Maher both are limo libs playing the the role of working class guys against them rich guys schtick. As far as Beck I did not watch the clip because something about Beck just makes my skin crawl so much so I don't even want to see him spoofed~

Radar Chief
03-19-2010, 06:46 PM
I think Stewart is funny.

Well that makes one of us.
Of course I've never understood how someone so not funny is a comedian, so...:shrug:

petegz28
03-19-2010, 06:49 PM
Well that makes one of us.
Of course I've never understood how someone so not funny is a comedian, so...:shrug:

Have you ever looked at the back of a dollar bill......on weed???

He was funny in Halfbaked.

Baby Lee
03-19-2010, 06:54 PM
That was a singularly joyless and pointless exercise. I think the only thing that a led to me watching the entire thing was the prospect of someone asking 'did you watch the whole thing' if I were ever to comment on the 'argument' presented. Entertainment was certainly not at play. You know you're in trouble when Jon's trying to make a point and each and every clip in support logs in around 1.5 seconds.

BucEyedPea
03-19-2010, 07:44 PM
So if Beck is spot on about progressives, and his insane logic used to get there is spot on as well, then is Stewart spot on about conservatives since he uses the same insane logic that Beck uses?

edit:

Also, if Beck is spot about progressives using his tard logic, I must support killing any and all unwanted children no matter there age (until reaching 18) since I support one's right to choose...

Criticism of the state ends at partisan lines.

Reaper16
03-19-2010, 08:05 PM
That was a singularly joyless and pointless exercise. I think the only thing that a led to me watching the entire thing was the prospect of someone asking 'did you watch the whole thing' if I were ever to comment on the 'argument' presented. Entertainment was certainly not at play. You know you're in trouble when Jon's trying to make a point and each and every clip in support logs in around 1.5 seconds.

I was entertained. It was funny. Your face is butt.

Criticism of the state ends at partisan lines.
"All roads lead to Munich."

Thig Lyfe
03-19-2010, 08:54 PM
He calls out Olberman all the time. One time it was so obvious and popular Olberman responded to him on his own show.

People like you just see what they want to see.

Yep. Stewart skewers MSNBC and CNN all the time. Fox News gets the most shit because they provide the most material.

Jon Stewart is a liberal, so of course his comedy is going to be slanted accordingly. But to pretend that he's a sycophant who kisses the ring of any Democrat or liberal or progressive or whatever is just lazy. In a way, he's even harder on idiots from the left because he's genuinely disappointed in them, whereas he's just baffled at the idiots on the right.

Also, this parody was absolutely epic. Not the laugh-out-loud funniest thing he's ever done, but just a perfect summary of Beck's inane logic. People on the right always accuse us (liberals) of being "scared" of Beck, and you know what? You bet your ass I am. But not because I think that he'll expose or take down or overthrow the left. It's because he (along with Hannity, Rush, etc.) is poisoning the national conversation with innuendo and bullshit. The fact that ANYBODY, ANYWHERE can listen to Glenn Beck's rambling and think "Hey, he has a point" is fucking frightening.

Any intelligent, self-respecting conservative would disown Glenn Beck (and Sarah Palin, for similar reasons). People who aren't particularly political will see a clip of his show and think "Holy shit, is this what all conservatives are like?" It isn't, and it won't be if Glenn Beck returns to obscurity and more sensible people rise to prominence in his place. But at this rate, Beck will amass an army of idiots so big that the credibility of the right will be severely be damaged for a long, long time.

googlegoogle
03-19-2010, 09:04 PM
John Stewart has admitted he's a socialist. You have to love his attempt to discredit Jefferson. I don't know how anyone can stomach his biased show. He should be working on MSNBC.

You have to love Beck for getting under the Socialist party's skin.

Thig Lyfe
03-19-2010, 09:23 PM
John Stewart has admitted he's a socialist. You have to love his attempt to discredit Jefferson. I don't know how anyone can stomach his biased show. He should be working on MSNBC.

You have to love Beck for getting under the Socialist party's skin.

lol

penchief
03-20-2010, 05:29 AM
Yep. Stewart skewers MSNBC and CNN all the time. Fox News gets the most shit because they provide the most material.

Jon Stewart is a liberal, so of course his comedy is going to be slanted accordingly. But to pretend that he's a sycophant who kisses the ring of any Democrat or liberal or progressive or whatever is just lazy. In a way, he's even harder on idiots from the left because he's genuinely disappointed in them, whereas he's just baffled at the idiots on the right.

Also, this parody was absolutely epic. Not the laugh-out-loud funniest thing he's ever done, but just a perfect summary of Beck's inane logic. People on the right always accuse us (liberals) of being "scared" of Beck, and you know what? You bet your ass I am. But not because I think that he'll expose or take down or overthrow the left. It's because he (along with Hannity, Rush, etc.) is poisoning the national conversation with innuendo and bullshit. The fact that ANYBODY, ANYWHERE can listen to Glenn Beck's rambling and think "Hey, he has a point" is ****ing frightening.

Any intelligent, self-respecting conservative would disown Glenn Beck (and Sarah Palin, for similar reasons). People who aren't particularly political will see a clip of his show and think "Holy shit, is this what all conservatives are like?" It isn't, and it won't be if Glenn Beck returns to obscurity and more sensible people rise to prominence in his place. But at this rate, Beck will amass an army of idiots so big that the credibility of the right will be severely be damaged for a long, long time.

Yep. The scary part is that there are actually people who follow this guy and really believe that his idiotic rants are gospel.

stevieray
03-20-2010, 08:08 AM
Yep. Stewart skewers MSNBC and CNN all the time. Fox News gets the most shit because they provide the most material.

Jon Stewart is a liberal, so of course his comedy is going to be slanted accordingly. But to pretend that he's a sycophant who kisses the ring of any Democrat or liberal or progressive or whatever is just lazy. In a way, he's even harder on idiots from the left because he's genuinely disappointed in them, whereas he's just baffled at the idiots on the right.

Also, this parody was absolutely epic. Not the laugh-out-loud funniest thing he's ever done, but just a perfect summary of Beck's inane logic. People on the right always accuse us (liberals) of being "scared" of Beck, and you know what? You bet your ass I am. But not because I think that he'll expose or take down or overthrow the left. It's because he (along with Hannity, Rush, etc.) is poisoning the national conversation with innuendo and bullshit. The fact that ANYBODY, ANYWHERE can listen to Glenn Beck's rambling and think "Hey, he has a point" is ****ing frightening.

Any intelligent, self-respecting conservative would disown Glenn Beck (and Sarah Palin, for similar reasons). People who aren't particularly political will see a clip of his show and think "Holy shit, is this what all conservatives are like?" It isn't, and it won't be if Glenn Beck returns to obscurity and more sensible people rise to prominence in his place. But at this rate, Beck will amass an army of idiots so big that the credibility of the right will be severely be damaged for a long, long time.I don't know which is pathetisad, you being completely uninformed , or the irony of your post.

Thig Lyfe
03-20-2010, 12:43 PM
I don't know which is pathetisad, you being completely uninformed , or the irony of your post.

I already know that you're the "crazy moron" type of conservative. You don't need to make it any clearer.

Reaper16
03-20-2010, 12:45 PM
I think its cool that stevieray said "pathetisad."

bowener
03-20-2010, 02:05 PM
John Stewart has admitted he's a socialist. You have to love his attempt to discredit Jefferson. I don't know how anyone can stomach his biased show. He should be working on MSNBC.

You have to love Beck for getting under the Socialist party's skin.

I don't believe he was discrediting Jefferson, he was using Beck's idiotic logic (or lack there of) to discredit Beck's crediting of Jefferson as a pro-christian nation (rather than one with freedom of and from religion). The irony being that his words and actions are not in line, e.g., Jefferson writes that all men should be free and equal and yet he owns human beings as servants.

As for Beck, he doesn't get under anyone's skin, unless you mean in a way that a really annoying petulant child gets under one's skin while on an airplane or some long trip where you cannot escape its screaming. The fact that Beck doesn't even understand how stupid his "ovals example" was by having communism and fascism (nazis) on the same side of the fucking line shows that he is either crazy and misguided (or paid to act as such) or just stupid.

RNR
03-20-2010, 02:31 PM
I don't believe he was discrediting Jefferson, he was using Beck's idiotic logic (or lack there of) to discredit Beck's crediting of Jefferson as a pro-christian nation (rather than one with freedom of and from religion). The irony being that his words and actions are not in line, e.g., Jefferson writes that all men should be free and equal and yet he owns human beings as servants.

As for Beck, he doesn't get under anyone's skin, unless you mean in a way that a really annoying petulant child gets under one's skin while on an airplane or some long trip where you cannot escape its screaming. The fact that Beck doesn't even understand how stupid his "ovals example" was by having communism and fascism (nazis) on the same side of the ****ing line shows that he is either crazy and misguided (or paid to act as such) or just stupid.
Beck and Blubberman are the two that I just will not watch. Both are total clowns and irritating to listen to or watch. Both have faces made for radio and voices made for ear plugs~

Direckshun
03-20-2010, 06:11 PM
But like Savage he is often spot on with a lot of his takes.

JESUS CHRIST, PETE.

How FAR into the world of conservative radio have you gone? I seriously think we've lost you down the rabbit hole.

Direckshun
03-20-2010, 06:12 PM
I think Stewart is funny. I just get tired of his schtick of constantly slamming Repubs and Cons all the ****ing time. And usually ignoring Dems doing worse. I know he is just for entertainment purposes but it gets old.

Says the guy who claims he listens to conservative radio all the time FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

God, Pete.

Direckshun
03-20-2010, 06:13 PM
That was a singularly joyless and pointless exercise. I think the only thing that a led to me watching the entire thing was the prospect of someone asking 'did you watch the whole thing' if I were ever to comment on the 'argument' presented. Entertainment was certainly not at play. You know you're in trouble when Jon's trying to make a point and each and every clip in support logs in around 1.5 seconds.

Do you really think expanding the 1.5 second quote is going to shine some context on Beck's ideas that are going to vindicate him of all charges?

Direckshun
03-20-2010, 06:19 PM
By the way, it's telling that the conservative moment may mock Beck's ridiculous antics, but they agree with his basic point:

Liberalism is a cancer that must be removed in its entirety from society.

orange
03-20-2010, 06:22 PM
Beck and Blubberman are the two that I just will not watch. Both are total clowns and irritating to listen to or watch. Both have faces made for radio and voices made for ear plugs~

I agree wholeheartedly.

You see - reaching across the aisle is possible.

RedDread
03-20-2010, 06:28 PM
I thought this was one of his better skits. I don't know if he's done Matthews. I know he's made fun of him on more than one occasion but I don't think he's done a full segment on him.

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Baby Lee
03-20-2010, 06:34 PM
Do you really think expanding the 1.5 second quote is going to shine some context on Beck's ideas that are going to vindicate him of all charges?

Dunno much about what Beck's arguments are, but if they actually are 'if you want inspectors to make sure there's no dangerous chemicals in our kids' toys you therefore yearn for a Soviet state' it wouldn't take 15 minutes of a television program to refute them. But I doubt that's the sum and substance of the arguments, and Jon's over-emoting and rigid parsing of sound bytes suggest I might be on to something.

I'm guessing you have a passing acquaintance with the concept of the strawman.

Direckshun
03-20-2010, 08:06 PM
Jon Stewart has BODYSLAMMED Chris Matthews -- IN AN INTERVIEW WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS.

Matthews was so pissed he called it the worst interview he's ever had (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/03/chris-matthews-on-the-dai_n_66912.html).

Get off the conservative talk radio and get your facts straight, Pete.

Direckshun
03-20-2010, 08:12 PM
Dunno much about what Beck's arguments are, but if they actually are 'if you want inspectors to make sure there's no dangerous chemicals in our kids' toys you therefore yearn for a Soviet state' it wouldn't take 15 minutes of a television program to refute them. But I doubt that's the sum and substance of the arguments, and Jon's over-emoting and rigid parsing of sound bytes suggest I might be on to something.

I'm guessing you have a passing acquaintance with the concept of the strawman.

I know you're a fan of the Daily Show, but you've completely whiffed on Jon's point.

The point is to attack (a.) how Beck presents himself, and trust me as a guy who listens to Beck more than anybody on this board except for Pete, the hysterics are dead on, and (b.) the complete demonization of everything progressive, as if its goals are complete mind control and thus must be uprooted completely from society. He mocks (b.) by pointing out basic progressive suggestions of basic regulation that virtually nobody objects to in order to illustrate the point that progressivism is something that you can occasionally disagree with, but it is not a psychological disease that must be 100% purged from society.

googlegoogle
03-21-2010, 03:48 AM
I like the way he called Thomas Jefferson an evil discredited racist. (his ny socialist buddies applauding everything he says.)

Should we ignore the Constitution Johnny?

And yes, Johnny has said that he's a Socialist. LOL.

Baby Lee
03-24-2010, 09:05 AM
I know you're a fan of the Daily Show, but you've completely whiffed on Jon's point.

The point is to attack (a.) how Beck presents himself, and trust me as a guy who listens to Beck more than anybody on this board except for Pete, the hysterics are dead on, and (b.) the complete demonization of everything progressive, as if its goals are complete mind control and thus must be uprooted completely from society. He mocks (b.) by pointing out basic progressive suggestions of basic regulation that virtually nobody objects to in order to illustrate the point that progressivism is something that you can occasionally disagree with, but it is not a psychological disease that must be 100% purged from society.

Problem being that, while that is a reasonable stance to apply to the average citizen, Beck is aiming at the leadership that employs these 'useful idiots' to incrementally enact their platform 'remember getting Melamine out of toothpaste? That worked out right? Now let us take care of your health care for you."

Or as so eloquently expressed by Mssr. Dingell "it takes a lot of hard work and preparation to create a system that will control the people."

Jenson71
04-02-2010, 11:35 AM
Colbert and Catholic priest on Beck and social justice

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Baby Lee
04-02-2010, 12:00 PM
Yes!! I too want my government to makes sure everyone does what my religion tells me I should be doing!!


You got your religion in my state. Hey! You got your state in my religion! Delicious!!

Jenson71
04-02-2010, 12:46 PM
Yes!! I too want my government to makes sure everyone does what my religion tells me I should be doing!!

I don't think that was Father Martin's point. The point is that being for social justice is something people should concern themselves with -- it's a humanitarian, moral issue -- it's not a vote for totalitarianism like Glenn Beck says. Beck warns us to turn our priests in for talking about social justice. To hell with that.

Direckshun
04-02-2010, 01:06 PM
Problem being that, while that is a reasonable stance to apply to the average citizen, Beck is aiming at the leadership that employs these 'useful idiots' to incrementally enact their platform 'remember getting Melamine out of toothpaste? That worked out right? Now let us take care of your health care for you."

Or as so eloquently expressed by Mssr. Dingell "it takes a lot of hard work and preparation to create a system that will control the people."

Actually, that isn't Beck's point. Do you even listen to his radio show?

Beck's point is that government bad. He has railed against even the most miniscule progressive government moves, such as creating the swine flu vaccine. Beck's argument is nowhere near as nuanced as you're trying to make it.

Beck's point has NEVER been "sure progressive policies such as toothpaste inspections worked, but healthcare won't." Show me one time where he's said something along those lines.

His argument, to coopt your hypothetical, would be "progressive policies such as toothpaste inspection hasn't worked!! -- and these are the people who want to run healthcare?" I know it sounds insane, but that's Beck's schtick. And that's why thinking liberals hate him.

Watch a little Glenn Beck before you criticize Stewart for parodying him incorrectly.

Baby Lee
04-02-2010, 01:13 PM
I don't think that was Father Martin's point. The point is that being for social justice is something people should concern themselves with -- it's a humanitarian, moral issue -- it's not a vote for totalitarianism like Glenn Beck says. Beck warns us to turn our priests in for talking about social justice. To hell with that.

The ironic thing is that those championing 'social justice' religious types here, go all Glenn Beck in their own right on the pro-life movement.

And while the likelihood that either anti-abortion or socialist platforms end up institutionalized in our nation's laws might be slim, that doesn't mean that the proponents aren't hard at work towards realizing them as such.

I'm all for those who promote 'social justice' from their own pulpit, it's when the strive to institutionalize it in our laws that I have a problem, first because the ideas they have regarding it's form is bad for all of us, and second because Jesus' call is a call to personal action, not a call to wield political power to have the state administer our compassion for us.

go bowe
04-02-2010, 03:14 PM
jon Stewart is a pussy.but a very funny pussy...

Useful Idiot
04-02-2010, 04:20 PM
but they agree with his basic point:

Liberalism is a cancer that must be removed in its entirety from society.

although I generally consider beck a total asshat, I really do agree with him on this.

Pitt Gorilla
04-02-2010, 09:44 PM
jon Stewart is a pussy.LMAO

KC native
04-02-2010, 09:57 PM
ROFL

ARIAN- Why did they change the y? Just so you wouldn't ask that question. ROFL

aturnis
04-03-2010, 11:32 PM
I think Stewart is funny. I just get tired of his schtick of constantly slamming Repubs and Cons all the ****ing time. And usually ignoring Dems doing worse. I know he is just for entertainment purposes but it gets old.

What do Dems do that is worse than trying to seduce children over the internet or meet with mothers to deal for sexin' up their toddlers?