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dirk digler
03-23-2010, 10:53 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100323/ts_dailybeast/7269_scarynewgoppoll

On the heels of health care, a new Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama: Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.



57 percent of Republicans (32 percent overall) believe that Obama is a Muslim
45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president"
38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"
Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."


The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the health-care reform debate, also clearly shows that education is a barrier to extremism. Respondents without a college education are vastly more likely to believe such claims, while Americans with college degrees or better are less easily duped.


The full results of the poll, which will be released in greater detail tomorrow, are even more frightening: including news that high percentages of Republicans—and Americans overall—believe that President Obama is "racist," "anti-American" "wants the terrorists to win" and "wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one-world government." The "Hatriot" belief that Obama is a "domestic enemy" as set forth in the Constitution is also widely held—a sign of trouble yet to come.

Mr. Kotter
03-23-2010, 10:55 AM
Those tea-parties are attracting some strange rangers....who have difficulty thinking for themselves, preferring to embrace the histrionics and hyperbole of the holy "conservative" trinity of Limbaugh-Hanninty-and-Beck. Their motto seems to be: "Why think for yourself, when we have Rush-Sean-and-Glenn!!"

LMAO

Heck, some of these folks make Nixon's wink-and-a-nod to Southern rednecks in the post-Civil-Rights era...seem sincere by contrast.

dirk digler
03-23-2010, 11:03 AM
Those tea-parties are attracting some strange rangers....who have difficulty thinking for themselves, preferring to embrace the histrionics and hyperbole of the holy "conservative" trinity of Limbaugh-Hanninty-and-Beck. Their motto seems to be: "Why think for yourself, when we have Rush-Sean-and-Glenn!!"

LMAO

Heck, some of these folks make Nixon's wink-and-a-nod to Southern rednecks in the post-Civil-Rights era...seem sincere by contrast.

hcf and mad crapper to name a couple

mlyonsd
03-23-2010, 11:06 AM
Only 23% don't think he's a socialist? I find that surprising since the evidence is overwhelming.

Mr. Kotter
03-23-2010, 11:08 AM
Only 23% don't think he's a socialist? I find that surprising since the evidence is overwhelming.

33%....redneck simpleton.

If you're gonna demagogue, get the math right at least. Heh. ;)

dirk digler
03-23-2010, 11:09 AM
33%....redneck simpleton.

If you're gonna demagogue, get the math right at least. Heh. ;)

LMAO Ouch

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 11:11 AM
Those tea-parties are attracting some strange rangers....who have difficulty thinking for themselves, preferring to embrace the histrionics and hyperbole of the holy "conservative" trinity of Limbaugh-Hanninty-and-Beck. Their motto seems to be: "Why think for yourself, when we have Rush-Sean-and-Glenn!!"

LMAO

Heck, some of these folks make Nixon's wink-and-a-nod to Southern rednecks in the post-Civil-Rights era...seem sincere by contrast.

So yesterday Kotter was rebuking polls and today he's embracing one?

mlyonsd
03-23-2010, 11:17 AM
33%....redneck simpleton.

If you're gonna demagogue, get the math right at least. Heh. ;)

Heh, I wish I could say I took math from you. :)

dirk digler
03-23-2010, 11:21 AM
So yesterday Kotter was rebuking polls and today he's embracing one?

Do you disagree with this poll because I see alot of these same things being said here in DC from Republicans\conservatives.

bowener
03-23-2010, 11:21 AM
Wow.
The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the health-care reform debate, also clearly shows that education is a barrier to extremism. Respondents without a college education are vastly more likely to believe such claims, while Americans with college degrees or better are less easily duped.


The full results of the poll, which will be released in greater detail tomorrow, are even more frightening: including news that high percentages of Republicans—and Americans overall—believe that President Obama is "racist," "anti-American" "wants the terrorists to win" and "wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one-world government." The "Hatriot" belief that Obama is a "domestic enemy" as set forth in the Constitution is also widely held—a sign of trouble yet to come.

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 11:43 AM
Do you disagree with this poll because I see alot of these same things being said here in DC from Republicans\conservatives.

I wasn't the one knocking polls yesterday; it was Orange and Kotter. As far as I'm concerned, any poll done by a media outlet is greatly suspect. The polls I think are more accurate are likely the polling groups who's credibility hangs upon the accuracy like Zogby and Rassmussen.

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 11:45 AM
Do you disagree with this poll because I see alot of these same things being said here in DC from Republicans\conservatives.

Oh, I see what you're saying; my bad.

I think CP DC isn't exactly a cross section of the general public. People who come here are a little more over the edge IMO...and I say that about both sides...except of course Dottefan.

HonestChieffan
03-23-2010, 11:47 AM
Do you disagree with this poll because I see alot of these same things being said here in DC from Republicans\conservatives.

One benefit I see of the new HC deal is that you can get a colonoscopy and see if they can locate your brain. I would not mind a bit paying my share for that.

BigRedChief
03-23-2010, 11:50 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100323/ts_dailybeast/7269_scarynewgoppoll




On the heels of health care, a new Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama: Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.


57 percent of Republicans (32 percent overall) believe that Obama is a Muslim
45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president"
38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"
Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."
The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the health-care reform debate, also clearly shows that education is a barrier to extremism. Respondents without a college education are vastly more likely to believe such claims, while Americans with college degrees or better are less easily duped.


The full results of the poll, which will be released in greater detail tomorrow, are even more frightening: including news that high percentages of Republicans—and Americans overall—believe that President Obama is "racist," "anti-American" "wants the terrorists to win" and "wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one-world government." The "Hatriot" belief that Obama is a "domestic enemy" as set forth in the Constitution is also widely held—a sign of trouble yet to come.
Yep right out of the Republican playbook. The problem is the "others". They are fanatics, they are not like us. We don't have to consider them because they are fanatics and are too stupid to realize our superior views. Demonize and label. He's a Muslim, christ forget that, lets go right to the Anti-christ label.

dirk digler
03-23-2010, 11:51 AM
Oh, I see what you're saying; my bad.

I think CP DC isn't exactly a cross section of the general public. People who come here are a little more over the edge IMO...and I say that about both sides...except of course Dottefan.

That is true to a point. I think I have heard everything from people here that poll points out except Obama being the Antichrist but I might have missed that one.

dirk digler
03-23-2010, 11:53 AM
One benefit I see of the new HC deal is that you can get a colonoscopy and see if they can locate your brain. I would not mind a bit paying my share for that.

I doubt you would find anything

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 11:56 AM
That is true to a point. I think I have heard everything from people here that poll points out except Obama being the Antichrist but I might have missed that one.

There would have been one for Bush but most of the liberals don't go the religious route. They've been satisfied with "He destroyed the world".

jettio
03-23-2010, 11:59 AM
It is comforting to know that a national cross-section of Republicans is less crazy, percentage-wise, than the chiefs planet GOP contingent. :Poke:

HonestChieffan
03-23-2010, 12:06 PM
I doubt you would find anything

That would be my greatest fear. Then my money was wasted. I do assume the brain you once had is still crammed up there somewhere.

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 12:08 PM
It is comforting to know that a national cross-section of Republicans is less crazy, percentage-wise, than the chiefs planet GOP contingent. :Poke:

I'm glad I could bring you comfort; I guess being a conservative and paying my taxes for entitlement programs, that's my job.

Ooops, I may have just slipped into the "more crazy" category.

Taco John
03-23-2010, 12:20 PM
I'm suprised there is any question on whether Obama is a socialist or not.

mlyonsd
03-23-2010, 12:30 PM
I'm suprised there is any question on whether Obama is a socialist or not.

There isn't really. At least to the sane people.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-23-2010, 12:35 PM
Wow.

No you know why Republicans target God fearing, high school dropouts. No one else will believe their bullshit. What happened to the Grand Ole Party?

Pitt Gorilla
03-23-2010, 01:05 PM
He's a Muslin!

BigRedChief
03-23-2010, 01:11 PM
He's a Muslin!man get with the program...thats so summer of 2009ish...He's the Anti-christ now!

dirk digler
03-23-2010, 01:16 PM
That would be my greatest fear. Then my money was wasted. I do assume the brain you once had is still crammed up there somewhere.

Probably in the same place yours is...oh wait I am talking about my brain not your head.

orange
03-23-2010, 01:18 PM
I wasn't the one knocking polls yesterday; it was Orange and Kotter.

Good freakin' God - you ACTUALLY don't know the difference between a real poll and something tossed up on a website. ROFL


As far as I'm concerned, any poll done by a media outlet is greatly suspect. The polls I think are more accurate are likely the polling groups who's credibility hangs upon the accuracy like Zogby and Rassmussen.

... and Harris ... maybe?

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 01:31 PM
[QUOTE=orange;6627290]Good freakin' God - you ACTUALLY don't know the difference between a real poll and something tossed up on a website. ROFL

Didn't I just demonstrate I did? :rolleyes:

orange
03-23-2010, 01:38 PM
Didn't I just demonstrate I did? :rolleyes:

Which sort of poll did I knock yesterday?

I wasn't the one knocking polls yesterday; it was Orange and Kotter.

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 01:41 PM
Which sort of poll did I knock yesterday?

I don't have to time to find it but do you remember me asking which polls you respected and you saying the one that happens every other November?

And I wasn't knocking you today; you didn't respond to the polling in this thread like it was legit like Kotter was; that's why I brought it up. You were mentioned because you were in the dialogue.

orange
03-23-2010, 01:54 PM
I don't have to time to find it but do you remember me asking which polls you respected and you saying the one that happens every other November?

And I wasn't knocking you today; you didn't respond to the polling in this thread like it was legit like Kotter was; that's why I brought it up. You were mentioned because you were in the dialogue.

Alright, I accept all that. Let's clear it up, then.

The poll I laughed at yesterday was an internet checkbox poll from MSNBC. And when you jumped into that conversation and asked why I'm mocking it, I assumed you're supporting it.

And as for me "respecting the polls every other November" - yes, I do respect those more than even Harris, Zogby, Rasmussen and the rest. Like the November 2008 polls that elected huge majorities in both the Senate and the House and a decisive win for the Presidency. I respect that that means the country wants the Democratic platform, including its centerpiece, health care reform.

This poll here today - while informative - is only a snapshot of dipshittery. It has no other effect. Likewise the rest of the multitude of OPINION polls that are put out every day. They're conversation points today and birdcage liner tomorrow. But even as dirty birdcage liner, they're more important than a freeped internet poll.

BigRedChief
03-23-2010, 02:04 PM
Fox news has a front page article with a picture saying " States go to War" over healthcare. The hyperbole has to stop sometime, doesn't it?

fan4ever
03-23-2010, 02:11 PM
Alright, I accept all that. Let's clear it up, then.

The poll I laughed at yesterday was an internet checkbox poll from MSNBC. And when you jumped into that conversation and asked why I'm mocking it, I assumed you're supporting it.

And as for me "respecting the polls every other November" - yes, I do respect those more than even Harris, Zogby, Rasmussen and the rest. Like the November 2008 polls that elected huge majorities in both the Senate and the House and a decisive win for the Presidency. I respect that that means the country wants the Democratic platform, including its centerpiece, health care reform.

This poll here today - while informative - is only a snapshot of dipshittery. It has no other effect. Likewise the rest of the multitude of OPINION polls that are put out every day. They're conversation points today and birdcage liner tomorrow. But even as dirty birdcage liner, they're more important than a freeped internet poll.

I'm not arguing your November answer; very legitimate. I could argue what you read out of those, but obviously not their results. I wasn't supporing the MSNBC poll; was genuinely curious. But a question often is viewed as a challenge here in DC.

Garcia Bronco
03-23-2010, 02:14 PM
67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.
He is a socialist

57 percent of Republicans (32 percent overall) believe that Obama is a Muslim
He was raised in a Muslim environment, however religion is not an actual requirement to hold the office.

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president"
This is possible, however its unlikely

38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"
Since Hitler was also a Socialist in the 20's this is not far from the truth in terms of idealogy, but when the National Socialists got complete control they became facists. While Hitler is completely villified for good reason. He did have good ideas and he turned Germany around from a sulking mess to a powerful war machine. It started when he seized business, just like Obama did with GM for example. Frankly comparing him to Hitler in this regard isn't actually an insult.

Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."
He could be, but it's unlikely

BigRedChief
03-23-2010, 02:22 PM
Scariest of all, 24 percent of Republicans (14 percent overall) say that Obama "may be the Antichrist."
He could be, but it's unlikely
Your proof/links?



45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president"
This is possible, however its unlikely

And those birth announcements in the Honolulu paper were faked 45 years ago from a bi-racial family, just in case he was going to be President?

Garcia Bronco
03-23-2010, 02:25 PM
Your proof/links?


And those birth announcements in the Honolulu paper were faked 45 years ago from a bi-racial family, just in case he was going to be President?

Anybody can write something in a paper whether its true or not. As far as him viewed as the anti-christ...the bible predicts its return, and many believe the end is coming. Is that proof he's the anti-christ, no, first you'd have to prove there was an anti-christ. Good luck.

googlegoogle
03-23-2010, 02:38 PM
67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall) believe that Obama is a socialist.

That's low. Strange.

bowener
03-23-2010, 02:46 PM
Anybody can write something in a paper whether its true or not. As far as him viewed as the anti-christ...the bible predicts its return, and many believe the end is coming. Is that proof he's the anti-christ, no, first you'd have to prove there was an anti-christ. Good luck.

Wouldn't' we need to prove there is a god first?

Taco John
03-23-2010, 02:46 PM
Fox news has a front page article with a picture saying " States go to War" over healthcare. The hyperbole has to stop sometime, doesn't it?


I doubt it. I think this thing is only beginning to escalate.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-23-2010, 02:48 PM
The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the health-care reform debate, also clearly shows that education is a barrier to extremism. Respondents without a college education are vastly more likely to believe such claims, while Americans with college degrees or better are less easily duped.

And here is the crux of the issue.

A collection of oysters ready to be shucked and devoured en masse.

Of course, not all Republicans are rubes, but it does seem like the more educated ones don't do a lot to go out of their way and educate their brethren about the core principles of their beliefs. Rather it's about the creating of soundbytes and their ad nauseum repetition.

BigRedChief
03-23-2010, 05:24 PM
I doubt it. I think this thing is only beginning to escalate.yeah thats right your leader is calling for a total breakdown in society in 3 years isn't he?

Garcia Bronco
03-24-2010, 08:26 AM
Wouldn't' we need to prove there is a god first?

God is a relative designation. What might be God to someone by not be to someone else. The fact that 90 percent of globe believes in some kind of super natural being is proof in the sense that people believe it. What's perceived is real regardless of the absolute truth.

Garcia Bronco
03-24-2010, 08:28 AM
yeah thats right your leader is calling for a total breakdown in society in 3 years isn't he?

We are looking at a great distablization based on the fact that our currency is fake, we spend it like mad, we import just about everything anymore. It's a possibilty with a decent probability

RJ
03-24-2010, 09:59 AM
Personal experience tells me that folks on the extreme 10% of any issue on either side(s) are probably kinda f@cked up. That doesn't mean they're not right on occasion, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

Maybe Obama really is a socialist. Is there a blood test for that?

And then there are the people who are just plain stupid. You'll find a number of those in most any large gathering. Political rallies, Chiefs games, Who concerts.....

May you live in interesting times. Yeah, we definitely got that going for us.

Dottefan
03-24-2010, 12:54 PM
DC LOUNGE IS NOW KNOWN AS DOTTEFAN LOUNGE....WE OWN IT..

go bowe
03-24-2010, 01:11 PM
I'm not arguing your November answer; very legitimate. I could argue what you read out of those, but obviously not their results. I wasn't supporing the MSNBC poll; was genuinely curious. But a question often is viewed as a challenge here in DC.ya got that right!!!

put 'em up, i say, put 'em up!!!

patteeu
03-24-2010, 01:26 PM
I think Obama may be the antichrist and I'm not even a believer.

You may be right about Republicans being crazy though. How can 33% of them not recognize that Obama is a socialist?

patteeu
03-24-2010, 01:29 PM
Those tea-parties are attracting some strange rangers....who have difficulty thinking for themselves, preferring to embrace the histrionics and hyperbole of the holy "conservative" trinity of Limbaugh-Hanninty-and-Beck. Their motto seems to be: "Why think for yourself, when we have Rush-Sean-and-Glenn!!"

LMAO

Heck, some of these folks make Nixon's wink-and-a-nod to Southern rednecks in the post-Civil-Rights era...seem sincere by contrast.

If you've got another post in your bag of tricks, you ought to think about pulling it out. This one and the one where you tell everyone who doesn't agree with you they are myopic are getting pretty worn out.

If you don't have anything fresh, maybe you could check your Lurch account and see if you've got something old that hasn't been used in a while.

Duck Dog
03-24-2010, 01:30 PM
He might not be the Antichrist. But he most certainly is Anti Christ.

googlegoogle
03-24-2010, 02:04 PM
DC LOUNGE IS NOW KNOWN AS DOTTEFAN LOUNGE....WE OWN IT..


Anything going to be done about the town drunk?

Dottefan
03-24-2010, 04:54 PM
Anything going to be done about the town drunk?

CRY BABY....I ONLY DO THIS IN DC LOUNGE.

penchief
03-25-2010, 09:37 AM
One-quarter of republicans think Obama is the anti-Christ? Seriously? How ****ing ignorant is that? This just goes to show you what the country is dealing with when it comes to these nuts. And the fact that there are republican leaders egging this stupidity on is a crying shame.

Is there even such a thing as the anti-Christ? If asked, I wonder what percentage of republicans think Obama is Count Chocula?

mlyonsd
03-25-2010, 09:41 AM
One-quarter of republicans think Obama is the anti-Christ? Seriously? How ****ing ignorant is that? This just goes to show you what the country is dealing with when it comes to these nuts. And the fact that there are republican leaders egging this stupidity on is a crying shame.

Is there even such a thing as the anti-Christ? If asked, I wonder what percentage of republicans think Obama is Count Chocula?

I wonder how many democrats would think Cheney was the anti-Christ if asked in a poll.

Mr. Kotter
03-25-2010, 09:43 AM
I wonder how many democrats would think Cheney was the anti-Christ if asked in a poll.

Good point. Probably about the same number. Each side has about equal numbers on the lunatic fringe.

I'd suspect that there about as many wingtard Limbaugh-Hannity-Beck kool-aid drinkers....as there are moonbat Olberman-Maddow-Moore latte drinkers.

:hmmm:

L.A. Chieffan
03-25-2010, 09:45 AM
i believe he is the antichrist too. whos with me?

Radar Chief
03-25-2010, 09:53 AM
One-quarter of republicans think Obama is the anti-Christ? Seriously? How ****ing ignorant is that? This just goes to show you what the country is dealing with when it comes to these nuts. And the fact that there are republican leaders egging this stupidity on is a crying shame.

Even better is the 14% overall. That means people that identified themselves as other than Republican, which means there have to be at least a few Democrats, also think he is the Anti-Christ.

penchief
03-25-2010, 10:02 AM
I wonder how many democrats would think Cheney was the anti-Christ if asked in a poll.

If asked if he were an evil man, probably quite a few. But the anti-Christ? I seriously doubt it would even register. Even at the height of Bush & Cheney's hubris (invasion of Iraq, curbing of civil liberties, invasion of privacy, human rights violations, torture, etc.) democrats didn't go off the deep end like we are witnessing with a large segment of republicans right now.

The point being that one would have to believe in the anti-Christ to begin with.

mlyonsd
03-25-2010, 10:12 AM
If asked if he were an evil man, probably quite a few. But the anti-Christ? I seriously doubt it would even register. Even at the height of Bush & Cheney's hubris (invasion of Iraq, curbing of civil liberties, invasion of privacy, human rights violations, torture, etc.) democrats didn't go off the deep end like we are witnessing with a large segment of republicans right now.

The point being that one would have to believe in the anti-Christ to begin with.

Well I'd disagree with that.

penchief
03-25-2010, 10:17 AM
Even better is the 14% overall. That means people that identified themselves as other than Republican, which means there have to be at least a few Democrats, also think he is the Anti-Christ.

A few.

Radar Chief
03-25-2010, 10:33 AM
A few.

Oh, I’m sure it’s fewer than those who thought Bush (http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+antichrist&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1) or Cheney (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=cheney+antichrist&aq=f&aqi=g-c1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=) were the anti-Christ but that’s what happens when it’s your guy in the White House.

patteeu
03-25-2010, 10:34 AM
Good point. Probably about the same number. Each side has about equal numbers on the lunatic fringe.

I'd suspect that there about as many wingtard Limbaugh-Hannity-Beck kool-aid drinkers....as there are moonbat Olberman-Maddow-Moore latte drinkers.

:hmmm:

Are you serious? There are about 1000x as many LHB koolaid drinkers as there are people who even watch OMM.

Mr. Kotter
03-25-2010, 10:53 AM
.... democrats didn't go off the deep end like we are witnessing with a large segment of republicans right now...

:spock:


LMAO



Are you serious? There are about 1000x as many LHB koolaid drinkers as there are people who even watch OMM.

Yes, the far right prefer talk radio; the far left wing prefers NPR, coffee shops, and blogging it would seem.

penchief
03-25-2010, 01:30 PM
Oh, I’m sure it’s fewer than those who thought Bush (http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+antichrist&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1) or Cheney (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=cheney+antichrist&aq=f&aqi=g-c1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=) were the anti-Christ but that’s what happens when it’s your guy in the White House.

Maybe it's because nobody asked the question but I don't recall anybody running around calling them the anti-Christ. Nor were the seeds sown that compelled anyone to feel that it was a worthy poll question.

Clearly, there must be a difference or else we would be able to point to a clear parallel. I think it is perfectly fair for someone to suggest that the only difference is that nobody asked the question then. But it is also fair to suggest that the only reason the question is being asked now is because so many people are willing to perpetuate such stupidity.

blaise
03-25-2010, 01:37 PM
And here is the crux of the issue.

A collection of oysters ready to be shucked and devoured en masse.

Of course, not all Republicans are rubes, but it does seem like the more educated ones don't do a lot to go out of their way and educate their brethren about the core principles of their beliefs. Rather it's about the creating of soundbytes and their ad nauseum repetition.

Yeah, signed the thousands of "Buck Fush" , "Somewhere a Village is Missing Its Idiot" , "No War for Oil" and "An End of an Error" bumper stickers we saw over the last eight years. Not to mention the countless protestors carrying signs that were basically walking cliches. I mean, liberals never gobble up sound bytes and repeat them ad nauseum.

Chief Henry
03-25-2010, 01:42 PM
Google this guys name - Gabriel Range !!! This hardly made the news.

Chief Henry
03-25-2010, 01:44 PM
:spock:


LMAO





Yes, the far right prefer talk radio; the far left wing prefers NPR, coffee shops, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NY Times, Time magazine, Newsweek,
LA Times, Associated Press and CNN and blogging it would seem.

fyp

blaise
03-25-2010, 01:49 PM
I'm guessing most of the people on the left concerned with disruptive behavior will forget about it once some protestors start problems at another Republican convention, or try and run onstage and throw a pie in someone's face.

Radar Chief
03-25-2010, 01:52 PM
Maybe it's because nobody asked the question but I don't recall anybody running around calling them the anti-Christ. Nor were the seeds sown that compelled anyone to feel that it was a worthy poll question.

Clearly, there must be a difference or else we would be able to point to a clear parallel. I think it is perfectly fair for someone to suggest that the only difference is that nobody asked the question then. But it is also fair to suggest that the only reason the question is being asked now is because so many people are willing to perpetuate such stupidity.

Hot linked in my post are Google searches providing 3.2 million hits for “Bush + anti-Christ” and 2.4 million hits for “Cheney + anti-Christ”.

penchief
03-25-2010, 02:15 PM
Hot linked in my post are Google searches providing 3.2 million hits for “Bush + anti-Christ” and 2.4 million hits for “Cheney + anti-Christ”.

That's a nice statistical tidbit that on the surface looks good but it really doesn't support your argument. The internet is crazy. Nobody's doubting that. But to suggest that hits on those word combinations support your argument that just as many liberals LITERALLY believed that Bush or Cheney were the anti-Christ doesn't wash. If it were so we would have seen the same kind of stuff we're seeing right now. These republicans that are acting batshit crazy in public are loud and proud about their ignorance. Why weren't liberals just as proud?

patteeu
03-25-2010, 02:17 PM
Maybe it's because nobody asked the question but I don't recall anybody running around calling them the anti-Christ. Nor were the seeds sown that compelled anyone to feel that it was a worthy poll question.

Clearly, there must be a difference or else we would be able to point to a clear parallel. I think it is perfectly fair for someone to suggest that the only difference is that nobody asked the question then. But it is also fair to suggest that the only reason the question is being asked now is because so many people are willing to perpetuate such stupidity.

Did you have your head buried in cement for the last 8 years? There were plenty of people calling Bush the antichrist. It doesn't take a research consultant to confirm this now that we have google at our disposal.

patteeu
03-25-2010, 02:19 PM
That's a nice statistical tidbit that on the surface looks good but it really doesn't support your argument. The internet is crazy. Nobody's doubting that. But to suggest that hits on those word combinations support your argument that just as many liberals LITERALLY believed that Bush or Cheney were the anti-Christ doesn't wash. If it were so we would have seen the same kind of stuff we're seeing right now. These republicans that are acting batshit crazy in public are loud and proud about their ignorance. Why weren't liberals just as proud?

Amnesia? Is that the problem?

blaise
03-25-2010, 02:19 PM
penchief seems to be one of the people that believes all the liberal protestors over the last 8 years were just "taking to the streets to have their voices heard" and engaged in no disruptive types of behavior. Like they were just there, slathered in patcouli and peacefully chanting little songs of protest. It's a very interesting delusion.

ChiTown
03-25-2010, 03:06 PM
.........democrats didn't go off the deep end like we are witnessing with a large segment of republicans right now.



How was your sleep, Mr. Van Winkle?

penchief
03-25-2010, 03:31 PM
Amnesia? Is that the problem?

Where is the evidence that people really believed that Bush and Cheney were the anti-Christ, literally? I don't care who you are, Democrat or republican, it's just plain stupid. I'm more inclined to believe that even these republicans who were ignorant enough to admit to it in this poll where resorting to hyperbole moreso than really believing it.

I just find it astonishing in this day and age that anyone would really believe that any of those guys, Bush or Cheney or Obama, is literally the anti-Christ. But for 24% to say they believed it? That's pretty damn rich. Show me where one-quarter of liberals actually believed that Bush and Cheney were the true anti-Christ and I'll concede this thread to you.

Dave Lane
03-25-2010, 03:41 PM
He might not be the Antichrist. But he most certainly is Anti Christ.

Don't I wish. It would be so refreshing

blaise
03-25-2010, 03:43 PM
Where is the evidence that people really believed that Bush and Cheney were the anti-Christ, literally? I don't care who you are, Democrat or republican, it's just plain stupid. I'm more inclined to believe that even these republicans who were ignorant enough to admit to it in this poll where resorting to hyperbole moreso than really believing it.

I just find it astonishing in this day and age that anyone would really believe that any of those guys, Bush or Cheney or Obama, is literally the anti-Christ. But for 24% to say they believed it? That's pretty damn rich. Show me where one-quarter of liberals actually believed that Bush and Cheney were the true anti-Christ and I'll concede this thread to you.

Unless you know that there was a poll asking that question of liberals, I don't really see how you can say they would or would not have said Bush was the antichrist, even if they didn't believe it. You can't just say, "you can't find a poll therefore liberals wouldn't have said that"

patteeu
03-25-2010, 05:23 PM
Where is the evidence that people really believed that Bush and Cheney were the anti-Christ, literally? I don't care who you are, Democrat or republican, it's just plain stupid. I'm more inclined to believe that even these republicans who were ignorant enough to admit to it in this poll where resorting to hyperbole moreso than really believing it.

I just find it astonishing in this day and age that anyone would really believe that any of those guys, Bush or Cheney or Obama, is literally the anti-Christ. But for 24% to say they believed it? That's pretty damn rich. Show me where one-quarter of liberals actually believed that Bush and Cheney were the true anti-Christ and I'll concede this thread to you.

So despite trying to draw an unsupported distinction, you even believe the Obama=antichrist and Bush=antichrist sentiments were equivalent. You're trying way too hard here and you're exposing yourself, pen.

penchief
03-25-2010, 07:30 PM
Unless you know that there was a poll asking that question of liberals, I don't really see how you can say they would or would not have said Bush was the antichrist, even if they didn't believe it. You can't just say, "you can't find a poll therefore liberals wouldn't have said that"

That's a fair point. And one I've already raised myself in this thread. However, I'm pretty sure we'd have known if such a poll existed. Just like we've heard about this one. It's no accident that such a poll exists at a time when irrational hatred and hyperbole is at an uncomfortable level.

penchief
03-25-2010, 07:34 PM
So despite trying to draw an unsupported distinction, you even believe the Obama=antichrist and Bush=antichrist sentiments were equivalent. You're trying way too hard here and you're exposing yourself, pen.

Exposing myself in what way? I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. However, how stupid do you have to be to publicly admit that you believe Obama is literally the anti-Christ? That is the distinction, IMO. I find it hard to believe that one-quarter of the democratic party would be so ignorant to believe it enough to admit it to a pollster, hyperbole aside.

I mean, that's actually kind of scary.