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Taco John
03-26-2010, 01:02 AM
Good stuff from Breitbart.


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Taco John
03-26-2010, 01:03 AM
MSNBC's player is absolute crap...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36040389#36040389

Taco John
03-26-2010, 01:12 AM
The thing that Andrew missed is that the Tea Party doesn't care about race whatever. It cares about individualism, and personal liberty. It's built into the charter. Now, that's not to say there aren't some good 'ole boys with confederate roots who aren't attracted to the message of personal liberty and accoutability in government. But I haven't seen any evidence that there is even an issue here. Just hollow accusations without any evidence.

BIG_DADDY
03-26-2010, 01:18 AM
Well it's very important to villify the tea party before they gain any more power.

Thig Lyfe
03-26-2010, 01:27 AM
Nope, race is not involved in these protests whatsover, nosiree

http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/guess-which-state-this-is-they-had-nearly-5000-18703-1239831628-51-300x225.jpg

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I don't think the Tea Party movement is, at its core, necessarily a racial one. Crazy and misinformed, perhaps, but not racial. But let's not pretend that there are not a great deal of protesters who are outwardly racist. Because there are. And this racism is factoring into the anger of the mob, whether the actual movement endorses it or not.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 01:43 AM
Nope, race is not involved in these protests whatsover, nosiree


Which ones are racist? Some of those are a real stretch to call racist.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 01:46 AM
http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/obamachains.jpg


This is racist? We just got the largest tax increase American history. I think this sign plays well on the Obama slogan, and the Obama results. I think that if you read this sign and instantly think of racism, the problem belongs to you.

Thig Lyfe
03-26-2010, 01:48 AM
Which ones are racist? Some of those are a real stretch to call racist.

Come on, dude. Those signs are all racially-charged at best and just plain racist at worst. Trying to ignore or deny this problem with the Tea Party movement isn't going to make it go away. Race is a huge factor in these protests, whether you choose to admit it or not. You can do the whole thing where you say calling a racist person racist is racist all you'd like, but that doesn't deny the reality. Race is most definitely a factor here. There's nothing alarmist about acknowledging that.

Thig Lyfe
03-26-2010, 01:50 AM
http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/obamachains.jpg


This is racist? We just got the largest tax increase American history. I think this sign plays well on the Obama slogan, and the Obama results. I think that if you read this sign and instantly think of racism, the problem belongs to you.

Yeah, it totally doesn't evoke slavery at all. It's totally not equating a tax hike with 400+ years of oppression. You're right, there's no way to possibly interpret that sign as being racially charged. None.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 01:54 AM
It's supposed to evoke slavery. We are slaves, and they just proved it. Obama and the insurance industry got together, bargained, and we the people got handed over to insurance industry or face the IRS. We are their property, and they proved it.

Yeah. It totally DOES evoke slavery. That's the point of it.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 02:02 AM
Race is not a factor here. The Tea Party is about one thing and one thing only: the proper relationship between the government and the citizenry who own the government. That's it. That's the whole movement.

Right now, government has managed to get its role reversed. It thinks that it owns us, and acts in this manner. The Tea Party is about one thing: turning that around.

That's it.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 02:08 AM
2010: A Race Odyssey - Disproving a Negative for Cash Prizes or, How the Civil Rights Movement Jumped the Shark

By Andrew Breitbart

As I have said over and over and over, the left has one trick that it will use again and again when its back is in the corner: shout ‘racist’ in a crowded country.

On Saturday, during the peaceful and patriotic tea party protest at the Capitol, the Democrats staged a series of symbolic acts meant to manipulate the media to do its bidding. The Congressional Black Caucus pulled the Selma card and chose to walk through the crowd in the hopes of creating a YouTube incident. This is what it looked like:

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There is no reason in 21st century America on an issue that is not a black or white or a civil rights issue to have a bloc of black people walk slowly through a mostly white crowd to make a racial point. The walk in and of itself — with two of the participants holding their handheld cameras above their heads hoping to document “proof” — was an act of racism meant to create a contrast between the tea party crowd and themselves.
This is the same failed symbolism that Janeane Garofalo and MSNBC have been trying to implant for the last year. The only supposed evidence of white-on-black racism at a tea party that MSNBC was able to find was a man carrying a gun at an Arizona Obama rally. But, wait, MSNBC cut off the man’s head with a photo editing software (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/msnbc-turns-black-man-gun-obama-rally-white-man). That Second Amendment fan was actually black. Never mind.

http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/03/25/2010-a-race-odyssey-disproving-a-negative-for-cash-prizes-or-how-the-civil-rights-movement-jumped-the-shark/

Baby Lee
03-26-2010, 06:18 AM
OMG. I never knew dodging charges of racism was so darned easy. Just tell people you really hate racism and everyone is instantly deprived of all mechanisms for interpreting your words or actions as racist.

And to think I was going with 'some of my best friends . . . ' all these years.

jjjayb
03-26-2010, 07:35 AM
OMG. I never knew dodging charges of racism was so darned easy. Just tell people you really hate racism and everyone is instantly deprived of all mechanisms for interpreting your words or actions as racist.

And to think I was going with 'some of my best friends . . . ' all these years.

Yep. Because everyone who doesn't like this government takeover is a racist. Can't you see the proof? Can't you see the way they screamed "kill the bill" at that rally? You just know that's really code for kill the n words. Yep, I'm a racist, through and through. You got me. :shake:

Keep believing the propaganda you're being fed. For a bunch of so called intellectuals, you sure are easily fooled. The democratic machine has a better marketing department than any corporation I've seen.

Useful Idiot
03-26-2010, 07:48 AM
OMG. I never knew dodging charges of racism was so darned easy. Just tell people you really hate racism and everyone is instantly deprived of all mechanisms for interpreting your words or actions as racist.

And to think I was going with 'some of my best friends . . . ' all these years.

OMG! I never knew accusations of racism were so easy!

If any one here thinks Adam Lambert and Clay Aiken are terrible singers, well they are just homophobic bigots.

amirite?

BigRedChief
03-26-2010, 07:58 AM
Keep believing the propaganda you're being fed. For a bunch of so called intellectuals, you sure are easily fooled. The democratic machine has a better marketing department than any corporation I've seen.You are crazy. The dems suck at getting their message/marketing out to the people correctly... see death panels to kill grandma this summer. That should have been a lot easier to label fear mongering.

stevieray
03-26-2010, 08:15 AM
You are crazy. The dems suck at getting their message/marketing out to the people correctly... see death panels to kill grandma this summer. That should have been a lot easier to label fear mongering.

right, that's why Obama has been on TV how many hundreds of times?


...don't forget to mention 4000 American lives today.

patteeu
03-26-2010, 10:34 AM
Nope, race is not involved in these protests whatsover, nosiree

I don't think the Tea Party movement is, at its core, necessarily a racial one. Crazy and misinformed, perhaps, but not racial. But let's not pretend that there are not a great deal of protesters who are outwardly racist. Because there are. And this racism is factoring into the anger of the mob, whether the actual movement endorses it or not.

Other than the "half breed" reference, how are those pictures of racism? And even in the "half breed" case, it's not clear to me that it's racism since it might well be a reference to Obama's parental religious influences.

patteeu
03-26-2010, 10:36 AM
Come on, dude. Those signs are all racially-charged at best and just plain racist at worst. Trying to ignore or deny this problem with the Tea Party movement isn't going to make it go away. Race is a huge factor in these protests, whether you choose to admit it or not. You can do the whole thing where you say calling a racist person racist is racist all you'd like, but that doesn't deny the reality. Race is most definitely a factor here. There's nothing alarmist about acknowledging that.

There's something wrong with you, friend.

BucEyedPea
03-26-2010, 11:08 AM
You are crazy. The dems suck at getting their message/marketing out to the people correctly... see death panels to kill grandma this summer. That should have been a lot easier to label fear mongering.

Well they won't kill her outright or even euthanize her directly.....they do it by saying you can't have this or that treatment because junior is younger and needs it first. That's called rationing. It kills. People die under socialist or universal HC and they die under private HC. The only difference is the govt decides who will live or die....when they're jobs are supposed to be about protecting rights.

patteeu
03-26-2010, 11:24 AM
Well they won't kill her outright or even euthanize her directly.....they do it by saying you can't have this or that treatment because junior is younger and needs it first. That's called rationing. It kills. People die under socialist or universal HC and they die under private HC. The only difference is the govt decides who will live or die....when they're jobs are supposed to be about protecting rights.

This. BRC is stuck in a literalist mindset thinking that "death panels" has to mean deciding that it's time for person X to die.

Inspector
03-26-2010, 12:01 PM
Someone told me that the negative stuff, if any, done with the Tea Party demonstrations was done by liberal plants. You know, to try and make others think that the Tea Party folks were racists or unAmerican or whatever.

Anyone heard this? Is that true?

Mr. Kotter
03-26-2010, 12:13 PM
Which ones are racist? Some of those are a real stretch to call racist.

:spock:

LMAO

irishjayhawk
03-26-2010, 12:46 PM
People will defend anything.

BIG_DADDY
03-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Bring the violence, it's significant.

BIG_DADDY
03-26-2010, 01:01 PM
Tea Party is in it's infancy stage which is why the Dems need to try and kill it now.

googlegoogle
03-26-2010, 01:03 PM
Yeah, it totally doesn't evoke slavery at all. It's totally not equating a tax hike with 400+ years of oppression. You're right, there's no way to possibly interpret that sign as being racially charged. None.

Wow. You shouldn't leave the house.

KC Dan
03-26-2010, 01:03 PM
Tea Party is in it's infancy stage which is why the Dems need to try and kill it now.
Stages of Attack

1) Demonize
2) Ridicule
3) Ignore

mlyonsd
03-26-2010, 01:09 PM
Yeah, it totally doesn't evoke slavery at all. It's totally not equating a tax hike with 400+ years of oppression. You're right, there's no way to possibly interpret that sign as being racially charged. None.

Only if you're a racist to begin with.

CoMoChief
03-26-2010, 01:10 PM
Bring the violence, it's significant.

That's what I'm saying.

Bring on the violence then people will start listening.

Mr. Kotter
03-26-2010, 01:13 PM
Tea Party is in it's infancy stage which is why the Dems need to try and kill it now.

What a unfortunate name fo the movement, even if one agrees with some of the Tea Baggers ideas...

Dave Lane
03-26-2010, 01:16 PM
I think they should start their own party.

KC Dan
03-26-2010, 01:17 PM
What a unfortunate name fo the movement, even if one agrees with some of the Tea Baggers ideas...
That's stage #2 - good one

Mr. Kotter
03-26-2010, 01:25 PM
That's stage #2 - good one

Eh, no sense of humor today....huh, Dan? :p

KC Dan
03-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Eh, no sense of humor today....huh, Dan? :pyep, i was smilin'

Taco John
03-26-2010, 02:35 PM
What a unfortunate name fo the movement, even if one agrees with some of the Tea Baggers ideas...


Hardly. This movement isn't new. It's nothing but an extension of the original Tea Party movement - a modern embodiment. Back they, they were chastised for their aggressive nature. And some of them were down right out of line. I think it's terrible that they'd tar and feather tax collectors. I wouldn't approve of such tactics then or now. But, that said, their antics ended up being crucial to our nation's revolution and subsequent independence. And as Alinsky says, the best tactics are the ones that get the desired result.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 02:44 PM
I think they should start their own party.

Why would we want to do that when we know that the only way to seize power is to seize either the Republican party or the Democrat party?

Tea Partiers don't look at parties the way old politics looks at them. We look at them as divisions like the NFC or the AFC. We want to get as far into the tournament as possible, and hopefully win the entire thing. When the tea party loses, they won't vote for the Republican winner unless he throws the movement a considerable bone. There are some, of course, who will go along just to get along. But they're the exception, not the rule. McCain lost because he refused to even make an overture to the tea party. If when the market crashed in September, he reached out to Ron Paul as an economic advisor, he would have probably nipped the tea party in the bud right then and there and had a lot of them in the pocket of the Republican party. But a "conservative" like McCain is too beholden to the current system to make such a wise move.

It'll be interesting to see how the Republicans respond.

Taco John
03-26-2010, 02:45 PM
I've written John Boehner myself with my thoughts. I may as well share them here:

RE: A warning about failing to harness the energy of the Tea Party, and the solution

Dear Rep. Boehner,

The purpose of this letter is to offer my insight on the Tea Party and what I believe that you, sir, can personally do to avoid a further devastating loss for the Republicans and the American people. November is coming, and by failing to capture the energy of the Tea Party the Republicans will see disappointing returns. Mr. Boehner, you have the power to prevent this failure from happening.

I consider myself a member of the Tea Party movement who is reluctant to join forces with the Republicans despite my conservative Idaho roots. I caucused with the Republicans under the Ron Paul banner, and am proud today to say that I voted for the good doctor. I want you, sir, to know that I don’t regret that vote even today. This is an important thing for you to understand and let impact you because it has implications for Republicans this November.

The Republicans need a legislative victory to buy credibility with the Tea Party and you have the power to deliver it by championing two pieces of legislation.

The first is H.R. 1233, the “Taxpayers’ Freedom of Conscience Act,” which thanks to the theatrics of Mr. Stupak, will be a winning issue given the current political atmosphere. This bill will put the Democrats and President Obama on record with the American people on Federal funding of abortion, taking the Stupak side deal out of the back rooms, and making everybody in congress accountable on this last minute sleight-of-hand. I urge you to push this bill and make the news cycle about this challenge, and use the word “accountability,” which should be considered the Republican version of “Hope” and “Change.”

The second, Mr. Boehner: your personal championing of the passing of H.R. 1207 will win the Republican Party a very spirited November, especially if you use it to its maximum political potential stressing the message of “accountability,” and positioning the democrats on the wrong side of this “accountability” message. If you want to continue to see Tea Party rallies, I urge you to throw the H.R. 1207 log on the fire and fan it up as bright and hot as possible. Ignoring this issue, or back-burnering it will earn a disappointing November return that will sting both the Republicans and the Tea Party movement. Politically maneuvering it through at least the house will bring Tea Partiers out to vote for Republican senators, and the Republicans across the board will be rewarded with Tea Party votes.

Sir, I believe that H.R. 1207 is the key to November, and the future of America. If you want the Tea Partiers to be reliable allies this November, you must deliver to them H.R. 1207. With that, I believe key to winning or losing the momentum of the tea party for the Republicans is in your hands.

Mr. Boehner, it’s time to drain the swamp.

With regards,
(me)

Mr. Kotter
03-26-2010, 02:46 PM
...Why would we want to do that when we know that the only way to seize power is to seize either the Republican party or the Democrat party?...


Well, credit where credit is due....it's taken a while for you to figure that out, but congrats. :clap:

Taco John
03-26-2010, 04:02 PM
Well, credit where credit is due....it's taken a while for you to figure that out, but congrats. :clap:

What are you talking about? I realized this a long time ago, and have been talking about taking over one or the other party as long as I've been here. The movement itself figured it out with the Ron Paul campaign - though apparently Bob Barr didn't get the memo.

Baby Lee
03-26-2010, 04:34 PM
Yep. Because everyone who doesn't like this government takeover is a racist. Can't you see the proof? Can't you see the way they screamed "kill the bill" at that rally? You just know that's really code for kill the n words. Yep, I'm a racist, through and through. You got me. :shake:

Keep believing the propaganda you're being fed. For a bunch of so called intellectuals, you sure are easily fooled. The democratic machine has a better marketing department than any corporation I've seen.

Not sure you have any idea who you're responding to, Hoss.

bkkcoh
03-27-2010, 10:58 AM
Why would we want to do that when we know that the only way to seize power is to seize either the Republican party or the Democrat party?

Tea Partiers don't look at parties the way old politics looks at them. We look at them as divisions like the NFC or the AFC. We want to get as far into the tournament as possible, and hopefully win the entire thing. When the tea party loses, they won't vote for the Republican winner unless he throws the movement a considerable bone. There are some, of course, who will go along just to get along. But they're the exception, not the rule. McCain lost because he refused to even make an overture to the tea party. If when the market crashed in September, he reached out to Ron Paul as an economic advisor, he would have probably nipped the tea party in the bud right then and there and had a lot of them in the pocket of the Republican party. But a "conservative" like McCain is too beholden to the current system to make such a wise move.

It'll be interesting to see how the Republicans respond.
Just like the progressives did with the democrats!
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RedNeckRaider
03-27-2010, 11:21 AM
It is total bullshit and a calculated effort to discredit anyone who calls out these shitbags for the lying bribing scum they are. If you spot check any large gathering you will be able to find nut jobs. Where are the fires, turned over cars and victims? I really get a chuckle out of the left pointing to the right charging racism. Harry Ried agreed to back Obama because he is a light skinned pretty talking Negro and the left glossed over it. Had anyone from the right said something half as inflammatory they would have been run out of DC. Barry sold out and kissed Harry's ass. It stuns me anyone falls for this diversionary attack~

Pioli Zombie
03-27-2010, 04:05 PM
All the morons watching Cunt Palin screaming and yelling today. Yes. Liberals,ARE scared of Palin. Because we know America is fucking stupid enough to elect that douchbag idiot.
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patteeu
03-27-2010, 04:08 PM
All the morons watching **** Palin screaming and yelling today. Yes. Liberals,ARE scared of Palin. Because we know America is ****ing stupid enough to elect that douchbag idiot.
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That's pretty apparent since they elected the current, even-bigger douchebag idiot.

Pioli Zombie
03-27-2010, 04:14 PM
Anybody who thinks Sarah Palin has half the intellect of Obama is themselves a douchebag idiot.
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RedNeckRaider
03-27-2010, 05:50 PM
All the morons watching **** Palin screaming and yelling today. Yes. Liberals,ARE scared of Palin. Because we know America is ****ing stupid enough to elect that douchbag idiot.
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They already elected one douchbag what makes you think they won't elect another?

RedNeckRaider
03-27-2010, 06:04 PM
Anybody who thinks Sarah Palin has half the intellect of Obama is themselves a douchebag idiot.
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Whats the matter shitbag? You must have your moblie device up your ass on vibrate mode while jacking off to your Barry's promise of change poster and you are too busy to reply. F&cking tools like you make this place not worth the time. You and dottefan should hang out~

Pioli Zombie
03-27-2010, 06:08 PM
Whats the matter shitbag? You must have your moblie device up your ass on vibrate mode while jacking off to your Barry's promise of change poster and you are too busy to reply. F&cking tools like you make this place not worth the time. You and dottefan should hang out~
Um,you don't think there's been change? Then why are all you fuckheads crying like babies because Heathcare Reform passed?
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RedNeckRaider
03-27-2010, 06:14 PM
Um,you don't think there's been change? Then why are all you ****heads crying like babies because Heathcare Reform passed?
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Change thats a f&cking joke! Extended the Patriot act the bay is still open the war has been escalated. F&cks like you get idiots like Barry and Palin elected~

Pioli Zombie
03-27-2010, 06:24 PM
Change thats a f&cking joke! Extended the Patriot act the bay is still open the war has been escalated. F&cks like you get idiots like Barry and Palin elected~
I give you credit. At least you admit Palin is an idiot. You're only half a bleeding from the ass cunt.
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Der Flöprer
03-27-2010, 10:07 PM
So, does anyone remember trying to discredit Ron Paul supporters before they gained any real steam? Nobody really gave a shit about that though. "They're just batshit. Pay them no mind."

Sounds like politics as usual.

Der Flöprer
03-27-2010, 10:07 PM
So, does anyone remember trying to discredit Ron Paul supporters before they gained any real steam? Nobody really gave a shit about that though. "They're just batshit. Pay them no mind."

Sounds like politics as usual.

patteeu
03-28-2010, 08:04 AM
So, does anyone remember trying to discredit Ron Paul supporters before they gained any real steam? Nobody really gave a shit about that though. "They're just batshit. Pay them no mind."

Sounds like politics as usual.

Have they gained real steam?