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BigRock
04-21-2010, 05:19 AM
HOT OFF THE PRESSES. Sort of.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/042110dnsponfldrafttop100.3f50970.html

The Top 100 is compiled based on conversations with NFL general managers, personnel directors, pro and college coaches and scouts.

1. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska
2. Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma
3. Eric Berry S Tennessee
4. San Bradford QB Oklahoma
5. Russell Okung OT Okla. St.
6. Trent Williams OT Oklahoma
7. Derrick Morgan DE Ga. Tech
8. Dan Williams DT Tennessee
9. Rolando McClain MLB Alabama
10. Dez Bryant WR Okla.St.

Spotlight on Eric Berry, S, Tennessee: Berry may be the surest bet for greatness at the top of this draft board. He started all four seasons in high school and all three in college. He left high school and college as an All-America. He's leaving school early to turn pro, but benefited in 2009 by playing at Tennessee for Monte Kiffin, a veteran NFL coordinator. Safeties historically don't go high in drafts, but Berry does not feel out of place with his lofty status on this board. "At the end of the day, I believe I'm supposed to be up there with those guys," Berry said. "I believe I'm the most talented player in this draft."

11. Joe Haden CB Florida
12. Anthony Davis OT Rutgers
13. Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame
14. Ryan Mathews HB Fresno State
15. Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
16. Brandon Graham DE Michigan
17. C.J. Spiller HB Clemson
18. Jason Pierre-Paul DE S. Florida
19. Earl Thomas S Texas
20. Kyle Wilson CB Boise State

Spotlight on C.J. Spiller RB/KR, Clemson: Spiller will be a first-round draft pick as a running back, but his abilities on special teams are a perk. He's the best return specialist in a draft thick with them. There are 36 players on this draft board who have returned either a punt or kickoff for a touchdown in college. Spiller returned 74 career kickoffs an average of 27.7 yards with seven touchdowns. He returned 53 career punts an average of 10.7 yards with one score. His eight career return touchdowns tie an NCAA record. He has the speed (4.27 in the 40) to take every kick to the house.

21. Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech
22. Maurkice Pouncey C Florida
23. Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
24. Devin McCourty CB Rutgers
25. Jerry Hughes DE TCU
26. Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri
27. Mike Iupati G Idaho
28. Jared Odrick DE Penn State
29. Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
30. Rodger Saffold OT Indiana

Spotlight on Sean Weatherspoon OLB, Missouri: If the NFL graded Weatherspoon off his junior tapes in 2008, he'd be a top-10 pick. He led the Big 12 with 155 tackles, plus 5 sacks and three interceptions. He looked like the second coming of Lance Briggs. But Weatherspoon played 12 pounds heavier in 2009 and looked sluggish. He'll slide on this draft board but not out of the first round. Linebacker is one of the thinnest positions in 2010. The good ones will go fast. Weatherspoon is a good one. He shed those 12 pounds by the combine, and will be an impact player in the NFL.

31. Tyson Alualu DE Cal
32. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas
33. Taylor Mays S Southern Cal
34. Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona
35. Jahvid Best HB Cal
36. Brian Price DT UCLA
37. Patrick Robinson CB Florida State
38. Sean Lee MLB Penn State
39. Nate Allen S S. Florida
40. Koa Misi DE Utah

Spotlight on Patrick Robinson CB, Florida State: There are five cornerbacks in the top shelf of this draft and Robinson is the fifth. There is a drop in talent after him and that could bump his draft stock up. Robinson has the size (5-11, 190) and speed (4.42) the NFL covets at corner. But he slumped as a senior, failing to intercept a pass. His talent deserves late first-round consideration, but cornerbacks without interceptions rarely turn up that high on draft day. Robinson intercepted six passes in 2007 but finished his career with only seven. The NFL prefers playmakers in the first round.

41. Golden Tate WR Notre Dame
42. Daryl Washington OLB TCU
43. Chris Cook CB Virginia
44. Charles Brown OT Southern Cal
45. Everson Griffen DE Southern Cal
46. Terrence Cody NT Alabama
47. Damian Williams WR Southern Cal
48. Tony Moeaki TE Iowa
49. Ben Tate HB Auburn
50. Navorro Bowman OLB Penn State

Spotlight on Ben Tate HB, Auburn: Like linebacker, running back is one of the thinnest positions on the draft board. All the quality backs – about six of them – will be gone by the end of the third round. The NFL covets backs who weigh in the 220-pound range. That gives them the bulk to withstand the pounding as an every-down back. Only three of the top six backs in this draft have both the size (220 pounds) and speed (4.42) that fit the NFL prototype: Ryan Mathews, Tate and Montario Hardesty. There are medical concerns about Hardesty's knees, putting a premium on Mathews in the first round and Tate in the second.

51. Regus Benn WR Illinois
52. Colt McCoy QB Texas
53. Aaron Hernandez TE Florida
54. Jonathan Asamoah G Illinois
55. Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi
56. Linval Joseph NT E.Carolina
57. Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma
58. Corey Wootton DE Northwestern
59. Dennis Pitta TE BYU
60. Bruce Campbell OT Maryland

Spotlight on Colt McCoy QB, Texas: The draft is about the measurables. McCoy won an NCAA-record 45 games as the starting quarterback of the Longhorns, but the numbers that carry more weight in NFL draft rooms are 6-1 (his height) and 216 (his weight). McCoy doesn't fit the NFL prototype for the position (6-4, 240 pounds). He's not tall enough to see over the heads of the blockers and pass rushers. He also lacks the bulk to withstand the hits he'll take in the pocket. McCoy backers want to compare him to Drew Brees. But one NFL coach told me for every Drew Brees there are 10 John Becks. The exceptions are rare.

61. Jerome Murphy CB S.Florida
62. Zane Beadles G Utah
63. Thaddeus Gibson DE Ohio State
64. Javier Arenas CB Alabama
65. Toby Gerhart HB Stanford
66. Vladimir Ducasse OT UMass
67. Tim Tebow QB Florida
68. Eric Decker WR Minnesota
69. Jimmy Graham TE Miami-F
70. Lamarr Houston DT Texas

Spotlight on Vladimir Ducasse OT, Massachusetts: The offensive line board will empty out quickly in this draft. The quality tackles, guards and centers will be gone by the end of the third round. Ducasse will be the biggest beneficiary. Football is still new to him. He moved to the U.S. from Port-au-Prince, Haiti in 2002 and only played two years in high school. But he became a three-year starter at UMass, twice earning All-Colonial Athletic Association honors. It may take Ducasse a year or two to figure the NFL game out, but he's worth the investment. He's 6-4, 332 pounds with 35-inch arms to steer speed rushers wide of the pocket.

71. Morgan Burnett S Ga. Tech
72. Corey Peters DT Kentucky
73. Brandon LaFell WR LSU
74. Chad Jones S LSU
75. Taylor Price WR Ohio
76. Montario Hardesty HB Tennessee
77. Brandon Spikes MLB Florida
78. Emmanuel Sanders WR SMU
79. Ricky Sapp OLB Clemson
80. Al Woods DT LSU

Spotlight on Brandon LaFell WR, LSU: LSU has had a player selected in the first round in each of the last six drafts – the longest such streak in the college ranks. LaFell is carrying the LSU banner in this draft as the highest-rated Tiger on the board. But he had a down senior year, ran slower than expected at the combine (4.62), and projects as a mid- to late second-round selection. Barring a mercurial rise by LaFell, the LSU draft streak will come to an end in 2010. Ohio State and Tennessee have the next longest streaks with first-rounders in four consecutive drafts.

81. Andre Roberts WR Citadel
82. Aaron Spievey CB Iowa
83. Jordan Shipley WR Texas
84. Jason Worilds DE Virginia Tech
85. Andrew Quarless TE Penn State
86. Alex Carrington DE Arkansas St.
87. Myron Lewis CB Vanderbilt
88. D'Anthony Smith DT La.Tech
89. Major Wright S Florida
90. Joe McKnight HB Southern Cal

Spotlight on Jordan Shipley WR, Texas: There's a new position evolving on draft boards – slot receiver. With the explosion of three- and four-receiver sets, the NFL needs wideouts who can run routes in the belly of the field. Golden Tate (Notre Dame), Dexter McCluster (Mississippi), Andre Roberts (Citadel), Emmanuel Sanders (SMU) and Shipley are among the best in this draft. Bet on Shipley to succeed on Sundays. The Burnet, Texas product succeeded on Saturday afternoons, finishing second in Texas Longhorns history with 248 career receptions. He's coming off a 116-catch season in 2009.

91. Torrell Troup NT Central Fla.
92. Carlos Dunlap DE Florida
93. Mardy Gilyard WR Cincinnati
94. Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida
95. Selvish Capers OT W.Virginia
96. Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest
97. T.J. Ward S Oregon
98. Ed Dickson TE Oregon
99. Eric Norwood OLB S. Carolina
100. Dorin Dickerson TE Pittsburgh

Spotlight on Torrell Troup DT, Central Florida: With 14 NFL teams playing a 3-4 defensive scheme this season – up from eight just two seasons ago – there's an increasing premium on nose tackles. That should benefit Terrence Cody of Alabama, Linval Joseph of East Carolina and Troup in this draft. Troup was a three-year starter and a team captain. He has the bulk (314 pounds) and strength (bench-pressed 225 pounds 34 times) to hold up against double-teams in run defense, plus the long arms (34 inches) to keep blockers off his body in the pass rush. He also has surprising speed for a big man (5.10 seconds in the 40).

BigRock
04-21-2010, 05:27 AM
Things I found interesting:

Williams and McClain both in the top 10. Not as surprising as the way he had Tyson Jackson at #6 last year seemingly out of nowhere, but similar in the sense that the increase of 3-4 teams seems to be elevating the stock of those players.

Clausen outside the top 10.

Big gap between Berry (3) and Thomas (19).

T.J. Ward over Ed Dickson?! I CALL BULLSHIT.

Fairplay
04-21-2010, 05:49 AM
Is this John or Kate's list?

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 06:02 AM
gosselin's final draft comes out tonight....it's christmas eve

ChiefMojo
04-21-2010, 06:19 AM
I can't wait to see Gosselin's draft!!!

spanky 52
04-21-2010, 06:52 AM
Dan Williams at #8 makes me nervous. That's the highest I've seen him ranked. Think I'd still take Berry and either Joseph at #50 or Troup at #68. With the emphasis on the "right 53", got to believe Berry makes the most sense. We'll see.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-21-2010, 07:46 AM
Things I found interesting:

Williams and McClain both in the top 10. Not as surprising as the way he had Tyson Jackson at #6 last year seemingly out of nowhere, but similar in the sense that the increase of 3-4 teams seems to be elevating the stock of those players.

Clausen outside the top 10.

Big gap between Berry (3) and Thomas (19).

T.J. Ward over Ed Dickson?! I CALL BULLSHIT.

Not really surprised about McClain. I am surprised about Williams.

Clausen outside 10 doesn't surprise me.

I don't understand some having Thomas above Berry.

chiefzilla1501
04-21-2010, 07:49 AM
Dan Williams at #8 makes me nervous. That's the highest I've seen him ranked. Think I'd still take Berry and either Joseph at #50 or Troup at #68. With the emphasis on the "right 53", got to believe Berry makes the most sense. We'll see.

He also had Tyson Jackson at #6 last year. But in most cases, he's usually one of the more reliable draft guys.

chiefzilla1501
04-21-2010, 07:50 AM
Also, wouldn't worry about Dan Williams. Unless the Chiefs move to more of a Wade Philips 3-4, I don't see him being a good fit. Pioli may not make care about"first round value", but he cares about fit. Maybe too much.

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 08:13 AM
He also had Tyson Jackson at #6 last year. But in most cases, he's usually one of the more reliable draft guys.

He's very reliable. He was right about having Tyson at 6.

beer bacon
04-21-2010, 08:19 AM
I don't believe that about Spoon being a top ten prospect after his junior season. Spoon tested the waters after his junior season and was evaluated as a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 08:22 AM
Using his rankings (not being able to draft someone listed below KC's pick):

1. 5th - Bryant or Clausen.
2. 36th - Tate or Cody
3. 50th - Benn or McCoy
4. 68th - Graham
5. 102 - Eric Norwood (hopefully he slides 2 spots).

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 08:52 AM
I think I'm maybe most surprised to see Bryant that high. I thought the character issues would have dropped him further than that.

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 08:53 AM
gosselin's final draft comes out tonight....it's christmas eveIt really is.

Although I'm not sure I'm not more excited than I am on Christmas eve.

beer bacon
04-21-2010, 08:57 AM
If Dan Williams is really the #8 player on most teams' draft boards, then it is a realistic possibility that we take him at #5.

spanky 52
04-21-2010, 08:58 AM
It really is.

Although I'm not sure I'm not more excited than I am on Christmas eve.

The draft and Christmas eve are alike for me. I never get what I want.

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 08:59 AM
If Dan Williams is really the #8 player on most teams' draft boards, then it is a realistic possibility that we take him at #5.Good catch, I didn't even notice that.

And I've thought all along he was a possibility. I think Dane has, too, although I split for a few weeks, so I've kind of lost touch with the latest "thinking".

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 09:00 AM
The draft and Christmas eve are alike for me. I never get what I want.Yeah, I keep asking santa for blowjobs from supermodels, and he never delivers. I don't think Goodell's going to come through either.

Delano
04-21-2010, 09:10 AM
Wasn't Carlos Dunlap considered a top 10 pick a year ago? What happened there?
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The Bad Guy
04-21-2010, 09:10 AM
Dan Williams is the Anti-Pioli player.

He only performed his senior year. Monte Kiffin said it was difficult to get him to by into the program, but when he did he was great.

I don't want someone you have to motivate at 5. He's going to get paid a ton and someone with a questionable attitude/motor is not someone we need on this defense when they have a fat wallet.

Plus, I'm in the camp that says the Chiefs aren't taking someone they didn't bring in for a pre-draft visit.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 09:12 AM
Who is San Bradford?

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 09:14 AM
Dan Williams is the Anti-Pioli player.

He only performed his senior year. Monte Kiffin said it was difficult to get him to by into the program, but when he did he was great.

I don't want someone you have to motivate at 5. He's going to get paid a ton and someone with a questionable attitude/motor is not someone we need on this defense when they have a fat wallet.

Plus, I'm in the camp that says the Chiefs aren't taking someone they didn't bring in for a pre-draft visit.Valid.

I was offline for most of march, who did they bring in?

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 09:15 AM
Valid.

I was offline for most of march, who did they bring in?

Going off of memory.

Eric Berry
Russel Okung
Rolando McClain


Shit....it's early and I can't remember anyone else right now.

Otter
04-21-2010, 09:17 AM
Ok, wtf:

McCoy doesn't fit the NFL prototype for the position (6-4, 240 pounds)

Who the fuck does this gut want for a QB, sasquatch?

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 09:18 AM
Ok, wtf:



Who the **** does this gut want for a QB, sasquatch?Bit o' reader error there otter. You missed the relevant bit: "but the numbers that carry more weight in NFL draft rooms are 6-1 (his height) and 216 (his weight)."

Interesting comment, too: "McCoy backers want to compare him to Drew Brees. But one NFL coach told me for every Drew Brees there are 10 John Becks. The exceptions are rare."

They never change.

milkman
04-21-2010, 09:33 AM
Valid.

I was offline for most of march, who did they bring in?

Here's a good resource for finding out who the Chiefs showed interest in.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=225193&highlight=Arrowhead+Pride

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 09:51 AM
Here's a good resource for finding out who the Chiefs showed interest in.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=225193&highlight=Arrowhead+PrideGracias.

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 09:54 AM
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milkman
04-21-2010, 09:57 AM
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That's a good point.

Infidel Goat
04-24-2010, 06:36 AM
3. Eric Berry S Tennessee

48. Tony Moeaki TE Iowa

54. Jonathan Asamoah G Illinois

55. Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi

64. Javier Arenas CB Alabama

Marco Polo
04-24-2010, 07:41 AM
Maybe people on this board will realize Moeaki is not some no name TE. He was the #1 TE in the country coming out of high school.
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notorious
04-24-2010, 07:43 AM
Maybe people on this board will realize Moeaki is not some no name TE. He was the #1 TE in the country coming out of high school.
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Once again, people are pissed that we traded up to get a TE who was injured A LOT.


Nobody is questioning his skill set, but injuries have a way of following a player around.

ILChief
04-24-2010, 07:46 AM
3. Eric Berry S Tennessee

48. Tony Moeaki TE Iowa

54. Jonathan Asamoah G Illinois

55. Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi

64. Javier Arenas CB Alabama

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Well there you go our "reaches" weren't reaches after all.

Bwana
04-24-2010, 07:47 AM
Maybe people on this board will realize Moeaki is not some no name TE. He was the #1 TE in the country coming out of high school.
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I don't have a problem with the pick "if" he can stay healthy. He doesn't do us any good if he's on IR.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-24-2010, 07:56 AM
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Well there you go our "reaches" weren't reaches after all.

Well, McCluster and Arenas were slight reaches according to this specific list of players. But, I don't think the Chiefs would have had a chance at either if they had waited.

All in all, three guys were 'value picks'. Two guys were slight reaches that wouldn't have been there. In the end, if you matched up players with picks, just in the order that they are on this list....... the Chiefs got value.

Marco Polo
04-24-2010, 08:07 AM
I really hope we go LB and DL with our other picks. For some reason, I have a gut feeling we will draft another OL.
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