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jAZ
04-21-2010, 09:58 AM
http://twitter.com/adam_schefter

Pittsburgh has begun contacting teams to trade Ben Roethlisberger for a top 10 pick. At least one team considering it. Story far from done.

Direckshun
04-21-2010, 09:59 AM
Seriously, is it even a mystery who that team is?

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:00 AM
Rams - Yes
Lions - No
Bucs - No
Redskins - No
Chiefs - Better fucking not be.
Seahawks - No
Browns - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Bills - Yes
Jaguars - Maybe

Detoxing
04-21-2010, 10:01 AM
Rams - Yes
Lions - No
Bucs - No
Redskins - No
Chiefs - Better ****ing not be.
Seahawks - No
Browns - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Bills - Yes
Jaguars - Maybe

If the Raiders landed Roethlisberger that would be a fucking nightmare.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:02 AM
I would put the top 3 teams that would go after him as:

1. Rams
2. Browns
3. Bills

Detoxing
04-21-2010, 10:03 AM
What the Steelers should've done was held onto Holmes and traded both of their asses to St.Louis so they could draft Bradford.

Red Brooklyn
04-21-2010, 10:04 AM
Rams - Yes
Lions - No
Bucs - No
Redskins - No
Chiefs - Better ****ing not be.
Seahawks - No
Browns - Yes
Raiders - Yes
Bills - Yes
Jaguars - Maybe
This

-King-
04-21-2010, 10:05 AM
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.


Raiders are probably the team that's interested.
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jAZ
04-21-2010, 10:05 AM
ESPN also had the Broncos taking Jimmy Claussen.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:06 AM
ESPN also had the Broncos taking Jimmy Claussen.

I'd be fucking pissed. Quinn AND Clausen on the Broncos.....:cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts
04-21-2010, 10:06 AM
I'd love to have Big Ben if I was totally confident he wasn't a rapist. I'm not saying I believe the claims, but once is a coincidence. After the second time, the alarms are going off.

Deberg_1990
04-21-2010, 10:07 AM
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger

:facepalm:

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:07 AM
The Bills should be on the phone with the Steelers right now. With Big Ben they have at least a minimal shot at winning a divisional game.

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 10:09 AM
Steelers: He's going to be suspended for 4-6 games. We'll let you have him for a top-10 pick.

Suckers: Sweet!

Deberg_1990
04-21-2010, 10:09 AM
my guess is, they would want to trade him out of conference..

that leaves Rams and Seahawks...

BUt i guess that didnt stop the Eagles..

swayy07
04-21-2010, 10:10 AM
I would put the top 3 teams that would go after him as:

1. Rams
2. Browns
3. Bills

as long as its no one in our division i dont really care who gets him.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:10 AM
Why does everyone think that the Seahawks are going to trade or draft a QB? They already traded for Whitehurst.

-King-
04-21-2010, 10:10 AM
:facepalm:

Sorry. He's not a tier 1 qb. I'd take Manning, Brees, Rivers, Brady, and Shaub over him.
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buddha
04-21-2010, 10:11 AM
I'd be ****ing pissed. Quinn AND Clausen on the Broncos.....:cuss:

Are you a Domer? Two overrated Domer QBs on the same team...why would we care?

As for "Pig Ben" don't the Raiders already have one gigantic slob playing QB for them? Now they need two of them?

Roth is broken...a GM should be fired for trading away a top 10 pick for this arse.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-21-2010, 10:11 AM
Why does everyone think that the Seahawks are going to trade or draft a QB? They already traded for Whitehurst.

And they're not exactly paying him back up money.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:11 AM
Are you a Domer? Two overrated Domer QBs on the same team...why would we care?

As for "Pig Ben" don't the Raiders already have one gigantic slob playing QB for them? Now they need two of them?

Roth is broken...a GM should be fired for trading away a top 10 pick for this arse.

The Anti-Irish hate is strong in this one.

buddha
04-21-2010, 10:13 AM
Well...yes. However, it's been a LONG time since a Notre Dame QB was relevant in the NFL.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:13 AM
Well...yes. However, it's been a LONG time since a Notre Dame QB was relevant in the NFL.

And you're a fan of?

Brock
04-21-2010, 10:14 AM
Sorry. He's not a tier 1 qb. I'd take Manning, Brees, Rivers, Brady, and Shaub over him.
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Schaub? I guess we can safely ignore your opinions about QBs then.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 10:16 AM
this is a no-brainer

COchief
04-21-2010, 10:18 AM
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.

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Seriously, you are on a football BB. Did you happen to watch either of his SB victories? The drive against the Cardinals and the winning TD pass didn't impress you???

He is kind of a fat idiot (motorcycle incident + women issues), but you cannot argue against his production on the field, especially the postseason.

:spock:

Mr. Laz
04-21-2010, 10:19 AM
And you're a fan of?
Notre Lamer
Notre Lamer
Notre Lamer



PBJ

DaKCMan AP
04-21-2010, 10:22 AM
Sorry. He's not a tier 1 qb. I'd take Shaub over him.
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:spock:

buddha
04-21-2010, 10:26 AM
And you're a fan of?

QBs who can actually play in the NFL. :D

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:27 AM
Trade for him.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:30 AM
QBs who can actually play in the NFL. :D

Well that rules out Kansas and Mizzou.

-King-
04-21-2010, 10:32 AM
Seriously, you are on a football BB. Did you happen to watch either of his SB victories? The drive against the Cardinals and the winning TD pass didn't impress you???

He is kind of a fat idiot (motorcycle incident + women issues), but you cannot argue against his production on the field, especially the postseason.

:spock:

Yeah he's had some great plays. But he's also had ones that make you say WTF? He's a great qb, but not top tier.
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buddha
04-21-2010, 10:33 AM
Neither have been any worse than Notre Dame post Montana.

-King-
04-21-2010, 10:35 AM
Schaub? I guess we can safely ignore your opinions about QBs then.

Sure.
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Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:35 AM
Yep....ND sure sucks.

Notre Dame has the 3rd highest winning percentage in NCAA history (.736), behind only Michigan and the Texas Longhorns (.737).

As of the end of the 2009 football season, Notre Dame has the 3rd most wins in NCAA history (837), trailing only Michigan (877) and Texas (845). Notre Dame also has the fewest losses of any program (291) (minimum 800 games played).

Notre Dame has 102 winning seasons in 121 years of football, and only 13 losing seasons.

The football program is tied with USC for most Heisman trophy winners at seven (Ohio State has seven Heisman trophies that were won by six players).

Notre Dame has produced more All-Americans (99), consensus All-Americans (80) and unanimous All-Americans (31) in football than any other college program.

Notre Dame is represented by 48 players and coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame, the most of any university.

Ten former players are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, second only to USC(11). Notre Dame has produced the largest number of players to go on to play in the National Football League of any program in the country. As of the 2008 NFL draft, 463 players have been drafted.

BigMeatballDave
04-21-2010, 10:37 AM
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.


Raiders are probably the team that's interested.
Posted via Mobile DeviceThe dumbassery is strong with this one...

buddha
04-21-2010, 10:39 AM
Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level.

You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.

Rain Man
04-21-2010, 10:39 AM
It's really, really tempting, but he'll be 29 by the time he starts his first full season with us.

Even with that, it's really, really tempting. The key would be whether a half-dozen games off will make him grow up or will make him go even more immature. I'd lean more toward assuming it'll make him grow up, but either way a suspension will have an impact on him, and the downside risk would be bad.

5 years of a top-notch quarterback for a first-round pick probably isn't horrible value, though. If we could make it conditional somehow, I'd probably do it.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:40 AM
Funny...I don't remember anybody bringing up ND's history in this discussion. I said that's it's been a long time since ND produced a QB that mattered at the NFL level.

You said that it was suck if the Donks had both Brady Quin and Jim Claussen. I disagreed, however, I do think that Claussen has much more NFL potential.

I'd rather have Clausen or Quinn than fucking Matt Cassel.

Sure-Oz
04-21-2010, 10:40 AM
I'd take him but im not sure for the #5, but he is a damn good QB

Dante84
04-21-2010, 10:41 AM
He would be a perfect fit with the Raiders, and I think that's what's going to happen.

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:41 AM
Let's avoid getting a Franchise QB, God forbid we might actually win something.

BigMeatballDave
04-21-2010, 10:42 AM
Yep....ND sure sucks.
Sorry, but that program hasn't been relevant since the 90s

The Bad Guy
04-21-2010, 10:42 AM
I'd trade for him. I imagine Cleveland is the one offering the 7th pick.

If that did happen, I would then trade out of 5 - down to around 7, 8 or 9 and would still be able to get Berry there.

Seattle will take Okung if he's still there at 6.

Sure-Oz
04-21-2010, 10:43 AM
I'd trade for him. I imagine Cleveland is the one offering the 7th pick.

If that did happen, I would then trade out of 5 - down to around 7, 8 or 9 and would still be able to get Berry there.

Seattle will take Okung if he's still there at 6.

Micheal Smith seems to think Okung will be available to us and we would take him, i just want this draft to start already.

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:44 AM
Micheal Smith seems to think Okung will be available to us and we would take him, i just want this draft to start already.

Michael Smith needs to get an antifreeze enema.

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 10:45 AM
Yep....ND sure sucks.They do.

And so does Michigan.

Which just happens to be the team I follow. :facepalm:

Looking back at the "long, storied history" doesn't make the last decade go away.

And I'm a Chiefs fan. Misery.

"There's always next year".

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 10:45 AM
I'm shocked at the voting. I thought it would be a landslide in favor of getting him.

Plus, he agreed to a new contract in 2008. KC would have him wrapped up for quite a while and wouldn't have to pay out a large signing bonus.

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:46 AM
I'm shocked at the voting. I thought it would be a landslide in favor of getting him.

True Fans

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 10:47 AM
They do.

And so does Michigan.

Which just happens to be the team I follow. :facepalm:

Looking back at the "long, storied history" doesn't make the last decade go away.

And I'm a Chiefs fan. Misery.

"There's always next year".

Hey....at least you can beat us. You've got that going for you.

buddha
04-21-2010, 10:48 AM
I'd rather have Clausen or Quinn than ****ing Matt Cassel.

I'd take Cassel over Quinn, but Brady could still turn it around. Stranger things have happened.

I would bet that Clausen will be the best of the three.

Chocolate Hog
04-21-2010, 10:48 AM
Weren't people saying Big Ben was one of the best QB's in the leagu last year?

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 10:49 AM
True Fans

Some of the true fans voting against it are guys rallying for Clausen.

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:49 AM
I'd take Cassel over Quinn, but Brady could still turn it around. Stranger things have happened.

I would bet that Clausen will be the best of the three.

What is the word I am looking for?



Oh ya.


This.

patteeu
04-21-2010, 10:49 AM
I voted "yes" based on ability, but only if I was confident that his rape issues were behind him (and I don't really see how we could be confident about that at this point).

Petro just mentioned his concussion history which I hadn't thought about. That's a concern too.

Otter
04-21-2010, 10:50 AM
What the fuck are the Steelers thinking?

philfree
04-21-2010, 10:51 AM
The guy is a complete idiot and maybe worse so while I want to win I wouldn't want to have to cheer for him to get those wins. He needs to check in with Tiger a the rehab center.

PhilFree:arrow:

Sure-Oz
04-21-2010, 10:51 AM
Michael Smith needs to get an antifreeze enema.

He was saying 'well i know pioli will play it safe' blah blah

im nervous just a bit

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:51 AM
Some of the true fans voting against it are guys rallying for Clausen.

I noticed, I want Clausen badly, too, but I would rather get a guy that is a proven franchise QB then a guy that's got a OK shot at becoming one.


No biggie. No way Ben is coming here, he would fit in like an elephant on an ant hill.

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 10:51 AM
weird as hell, this draft could get...


talent alone, i'd trade for him....he'd make our offense instantly top notch...he's about as clutch as there is in the nfl


but i also personally think he his a scumbag who has most likely forced himself on more than 1 woman....

notorious
04-21-2010, 10:52 AM
He was saying 'well i know pioli will play it safe' blah blah

im nervous just a bit

I know, it's not Smith's fault that our GM is like he is.


I am projecting my flustration at the messenger instead of the source. :)

BigChiefFan
04-21-2010, 10:56 AM
Great QB, too bad he's a prick to women. As talented as he is, there's no room for his antics.

buddha
04-21-2010, 10:56 AM
weird as hell, this draft could get...


talent alone, i'd trade for him....he'd make our offense instantly top notch...he's about as clutch as there is in the nfl


but i also personally think he his a scumbag who has most likely forced himself on more than 1 woman....


Would you be willing to trade the #5 pick for him all things considered? If not, and I'm guessing the answer is no, what do you think would be fair compensation at this point?

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 10:58 AM
Put him in Oakland and he's either arrested again within 6 months, or the Raiders become a dangerous team the next few years.

noa
04-21-2010, 10:58 AM
He's young and he's a winner, which is something that's hard to come by, but he's also an idiot off the field. Even if he never raped anyone, he was doing stupid shit. Maybe this suspension will put his head on straight, but I'd be afraid, so I voted no.

However, I would feel much happier trading our pick for him and signing him to a long term contract than investing tons of money in some of the other draft options that have been discussed.

Saccopoo
04-21-2010, 10:59 AM
I voted "yes" based on ability, but only if I was confident that his rape issues were behind him (and I don't really see how we could be confident about that at this point).

Petro just mentioned his concussion history which I hadn't thought about. That's a concern too.

What do you mean rape issue behind him? Guys have gotten 40 years in prison for the same shit this fucking ass clown has done. Where's the rehabilitation other than a fat fucking paycheck to buy off the victims?

Rape issues behind him? Has he submitted himself to any psychological counseling? Has he worked in any battered women's shelters? What fucking remorse has this cocksucker shown and what has he done to show that his penchant for molesting women is in his past? Not one fucking thing, that's what.

Fuck this fucking dildo.

Coogs
04-21-2010, 11:00 AM
Straight up #5 for Ben? No for me. Ben and a swap of #5 for #18... then I would consider it.

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 11:01 AM
If the options were "Roethlisberger or Okung/Williams", then I would change my vote to "yes".

Anything but a fucking offensive tackle.

</post>
04-21-2010, 11:01 AM
I don't like the guy as a person, but we should be considering it. I think he's worth it as a player. Although, we would have more leverage than the #5 straight up, IMO. 4-6 game suspension, they want to unload him, future risk, etc. We'd probably be able to get some picks back.

Saccopoo
04-21-2010, 11:02 AM
weird as hell, this draft could get...


talent alone, i'd trade for him....he'd make our offense instantly top notch...he's about as clutch as there is in the nfl


but i also personally think he his a scumbag who has most likely forced himself on more than 1 woman....

I fail to see how the one guy in the league who holds onto the ball longer than Matt Cassel would make this offense top notch behind our "stellar" offensive line and receiving corps.

tooge
04-21-2010, 11:03 AM
I'd love to have Big Ben if I was totally confident he wasn't a rapist. I'm not saying I believe the claims, but once is a coincidence. After the second time, the alarms are going off.

whenever I read or hear the word "rapist" I can't help but think of Pulp Fiction.

</post>
04-21-2010, 11:03 AM
or we could just draft a QB...

notorious
04-21-2010, 11:04 AM
If the options were "Roethlisberger or Okung/Williams", then I would change my vote to "yes".

Anything but a ****ing offensive tackle.

Well put.

RJ
04-21-2010, 11:09 AM
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

CosmicPal
04-21-2010, 11:10 AM
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

This. :clap:

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 11:11 AM
I fail to see how the one guy in the league who holds onto the ball longer than Matt Cassel would make this offense top notch behind our "stellar" offensive line and receiving corps.

that's because you're a clueless dumbass

we have a better running back than he's ever had, and he'd make Bowe and Chambers look like real WRs because he is accurate unlike Cassel


and since you've obviously never watched him play, he doesn't go down like a pussy the way Cassel does...he does not have a great ol in pittsburgh, he simply extends plays in a way that no other QB in the league is capable of....

you're just a rare breed of fuktard

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 11:12 AM
The closest KC came to sniffing a Super Bowl in the last 39 years was when they traded for a two time Super Bowl winning QB.

BillSelfsTrophycase
04-21-2010, 11:14 AM
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

Exactly, swap first rounders to get him and I'd do it. #5 straight up, no fucking way

DaWolf
04-21-2010, 11:14 AM
The closest KC came to sniffing a Super Bowl in the last 39 years was when they traded for a two time Super Bowl winning QB.

Four time.

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 11:15 AM
Would you be willing to trade the #5 pick for him all things considered? If not, and I'm guessing the answer is no, what do you think would be fair compensation at this point?

he's worth it...


and i can't believe i'm saying this based on how bad we need a QB, but i personally wouldn't trade for him....i'm not making a rapist the face of my franchise....

i didn't like lj for the way he treated women, this is a whole other degree of wrongness

notorious
04-21-2010, 11:18 AM
As a human being, Rapelisburger is horrible and I don't think I would invite him into my house.


As for inviting onto my team, do it and then some.

We don't watch our team because we admire their ethics and morals, we watch them because we want to WIN.

RJ
04-21-2010, 11:18 AM
that's because you're a clueless dumbass

we have a better running back than he's ever had, and he'd make Bowe and Chambers look like real WRs because he is accurate unlike Cassel


and since you've obviously never watched him play, he doesn't go down like a pussy the way Cassel does...he does not have a great ol in pittsburgh, he simply extends plays in a way that no other QB in the league is capable of....
you're just a rare breed of fuktard

I hate when he does that.

But I'd really like it if he was wearing a Chiefs jersey.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 11:19 AM
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

I can see the Bills going after him.

patteeu
04-21-2010, 11:21 AM
What do you mean rape issue behind him? Guys have gotten 40 years in prison for the same shit this ****ing ass clown has done. Where's the rehabilitation other than a fat ****ing paycheck to buy off the victims?

Rape issues behind him? Has he submitted himself to any psychological counseling? Has he worked in any battered women's shelters? What ****ing remorse has this one who sucks the penis shown and what has he done to show that his penchant for molesting women is in his past? Not one ****ing thing, that's what.

**** this ****ing dildo.

So if I'm reading you right, it sounds like you don't think the rape issue is completely behind him yet.

DrRyan
04-21-2010, 11:26 AM
I've never really been impressed with Roethlisberger, even though people here really think he's a top 5 qb.
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I agreed with this entirely before the second Super Bowl win. He was down right terrible in their first Super Bowl. The drive to win the second Super Bowl was just about as good as it gets.

I think at this point I would take Peyton, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Rivers and maybe still Favre ahead of Ben. But he is definitely in the conversation of a top 5 QB.

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 11:27 AM
Last time we picked up a Pittsburgh reject QB it worked out pretty well for us.

:shrug:

Of course he wasn't an accused rapist.

Count Zarth
04-21-2010, 11:28 AM
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Delano
04-21-2010, 11:32 AM
As a human being, Rapelisburger is horrible and I don't think I would invite him into my house.

As for inviting onto my team, do it and then some.

We don't watch our team because we admire their ethics and morals, we watch them because we want to WIN.

This. Talent > Character. Benjamin isn't exactly a Right 53 type of guy, though. motherfuck you scott pioli

MoreLemonPledge
04-21-2010, 12:20 PM
I'm surprised to find the "Yes" votes so outnumbered.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 12:22 PM
I'd give them Cassel, our 2A, and our 2011 1st round pick.

Or I'd give them our #5...

and in either scenario...I'd be like...holy shit! We just got a two time Super Bowl champion QB in the prime of his career! We might actually be worth a damn for the first time...ever!

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 12:22 PM
(and if they were feeling nice, they'd take our #5 AND Cassel for Big Ben)

rockymtnchief
04-21-2010, 12:31 PM
They do.

And so does Michigan.

Which just happens to be the team I follow. :facepalm:

Looking back at the "long, storied history" doesn't make the last decade go away.

And I'm a Chiefs fan. Misery.

"There's always next year".

Michigan, Chiefs, Royals, MSU Bobcats, NY Rangers. I seem to cuss a lot lately.:grr:

KCtotheSB
04-21-2010, 12:42 PM
They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

Fully agree here. I'm sure he's just one fuckup away from being gone for a looooooooong time....and if he did push his penis on one more woman, guess who looks fucking stupid in that trade?

MoreLemonPledge
04-21-2010, 12:43 PM
The Rams and Bills have reportedly told the Steelers that they are not interested in trading for suspended QB Ben Roethlisberger.
St. Louis and Buffalo are among seven teams the Steelers have contacted about a possible trade. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the others are: San Francisco, Jacksonville, Oakland, Seattle, and Cleveland. Pittsburgh appears to be fully open to moving Roethlisberger for a top-13 draft selection.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

stormtrooper
04-21-2010, 12:43 PM
Pfft! Just like Jared caught in the bar again. I'm sure the NFL will be talking to him soon. What makes you think Ben won't do it again?

keg in kc
04-21-2010, 12:45 PM
he's worth it...


and i can't believe i'm saying this based on how bad we need a QB, but i personally wouldn't trade for him....i'm not making a rapist the face of my franchise....

i didn't like lj for the way he treated women, this is a whole other degree of wrongnessThat's exactly how I feel about it.

In a bubble, with no prior sexual assault issues. I'd make this trade in a heartbeat. Of course, if he wasn't "damaged goods", Pissburgh wouldn't be fielding offers.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 12:45 PM
The Rams and Bills have reportedly told the Steelers that they are not interested in trading for suspended QB Ben Roethlisberger.
St. Louis and Buffalo are among seven teams the Steelers have contacted about a possible trade. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the others are: San Francisco, Jacksonville, Oakland, Seattle, and Cleveland. Pittsburgh appears to be fully open to moving Roethlisberger for a top-13 draft selection.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Holy shit.....Roethlisberger in San Francisco? They could trade for him and STILL have a 1st round pick.

KCtotheSB
04-21-2010, 12:48 PM
Holy shit.....Roethlisberger in San Francisco? They could trade for him and STILL have a 1st round pick.

With weapons like Vernon Davis, Frank Gore and Michael Crabtree in San Francisco, a very strong defense AND a first round pick left over, I think that would be a pretty solid move for the Niners.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-21-2010, 12:50 PM
No

Big Ben is truly better than Cassel. That said, he has concussion issues to go along with his off field problems.

They say that concussion problems are cumulative.... so, the next one will happen even easier, then easier, then easier. He holds the ball for a long time. Yes, he can extend the play, but takes a lot of hits. Wouldn't surprise me if he is out of the league in the next five years.

Heck, if a woman were smart, she would hit him over the head the next time he whips it out... and I mean the one on his shoulders.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-21-2010, 12:50 PM
Pfft! Just like Jared caught in the bar again. I'm sure the NFL will be talking to him soon. What makes you think Ben won't do it again?


Maybe. But, no chargers, no complaints, no drinking.... I don't know that he will get talked to.

Detoxing
04-21-2010, 01:06 PM
I see a draft day trade with the Raiders happening. Big, strong armed QB is exactly what Al Davis wants and i think he'd trade that number 8 overall to get it.

Saccopoo
04-21-2010, 01:06 PM
With weapons like Vernon Davis, Frank Gore and Michael Crabtree in San Francisco, a very strong defense AND a first round pick left over, I think that would be a pretty solid move for the Niners.

And Alex Smith could take him to firesides and family home evenings and have him meet with the relief society ladies. Ben needs a bit of churching up.

Either that, or he just heads 'round the bend and ends up raping queens in all the fag bars.

MoreLemonPledge
04-21-2010, 01:44 PM
According to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, the Raiders are in contact with the Steelers about a trade for Ben Roethlisberger.
La Canfora says Oakland "might be (the) only real option" for Pittsburgh if the Steelers are truly prepared to wash their hands of the 28-year-old QB. The Raiders, smartly (for once), appear to have realized that JaMarcus Russell is a bust, and very arguably the biggest in NFL history. The Steelers might ask for Nnamdi Asomugha in addition to Oakland's No. 8 overall pick.

notorious
04-21-2010, 01:47 PM
According to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, the Raiders are in contact with the Steelers about a trade for Ben Roethlisberger.
La Canfora says Oakland "might be (the) only real option" for Pittsburgh if the Steelers are truly prepared to wash their hands of the 28-year-old QB. The Raiders, smartly (for once), appear to have realized that JaMarcus Russell is a bust, and very arguably the biggest in NFL history. The Steelers might ask for Nnamdi Asomugha in addition to Oakland's No. 8 overall pick.

Fuck.

Rapelisburger and Seabass can trade Rape stories.

LaChapelle
04-21-2010, 01:52 PM
Did DJ give him his 3rd(on the field) concussion
I gotta wonder if the concussions and behavior are related
What a talent though

Detoxing
04-21-2010, 02:02 PM
The 8th overall AND Asomugha would be way too much to ask for IMO. Just the 8th overall should suffice. If pitts wants to get greedy, they should just keep their rapist.

KCrockaholic
04-21-2010, 02:03 PM
If they pull off a trade with Oakland. Pittsburgh drafts Jimmy Clausen.

Brock
04-21-2010, 02:05 PM
If they pull off a trade with Oakland. Pittsburgh drafts Jimmy Clausen.

I'd bet against that.

Pestilence
04-21-2010, 02:05 PM
The 8th overall AND Asomugha would be way too much to ask for IMO. Just the 8th overall should suffice. If pitts wants to get greedy, they should just keep their rapist.

This.

Asomugha and the 8th round pick are too much for Big Ben.

suds79
04-21-2010, 02:06 PM
If they pull off a trade with Oakland. Pittsburgh drafts Jimmy Clausen.

Unless we snag him first and hold him hostage. ;)

DeezNutz
04-21-2010, 02:08 PM
I'd trade our #5.

Not doing so would be a mistake.

Of course, Ben doesn't at all fit into the empty rhetoric that our organization likes to spew, so we're not part of the conversation.

KCrockaholic
04-21-2010, 02:09 PM
Unless we snag him first and hold him hostage. ;)

Hell yeah. Eli Manning style and we rape whoever wants him for all their picks. :D

Mecca
04-21-2010, 03:14 PM
Ahaha, The Steelers are going to be a 3 win team because they care about image, good luck with that.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 03:18 PM
Ahaha, The Steelers are going to be a 3 win team because they care about image, good luck with that.

You may be right but Steelers organization won a ton of games with guys like Tommy Maddox, Mark Malone and Kordell Stewart.

If they trade Ben for a first rounder, they'll bounce back quickly.

They always have.

And who gives a shit, really? They got two Super Bowls out of the guy and he's become a gigantic headache. Their fans don't want him around, either.

BigChiefFan
04-21-2010, 03:29 PM
Pitt would be looking to package picks to trade with the Rams for Bradford. Tomlin has given a ringing endorsement for Bradford. I don't think Clausen's even on their radar screen.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 03:56 PM
I can't believe that St. Louis is even considering a trade for Ruthlessraper. If they do trade for him, it's a desperation move, IMO. Desperation for Devaney and Spags, not the ownership, which is somewhat in disarray.
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Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 03:59 PM
can we please just give them Cassel and the #5 and be done with it?!?!?

Shit...

Give them Cassel, #36, and our 2011 1st and 3rd for all I care!

notorious
04-21-2010, 03:59 PM
You may be right but Steelers organization won a ton of games with guys like Tommy Maddox, Mark Malone and Kordell Stewart.

If they trade Ben for a first rounder, they'll bounce back quickly.

They always have.

And who gives a shit, really? They got two Super Bowls out of the guy and he's become a gigantic headache. Their fans don't want him around, either.

They won a lot of games, but how many trophies?

That is what makes Ben valuable. He rises to the occasion (in more ways then one :))

Detoxing
04-21-2010, 04:00 PM
Ahaha, The Steelers are going to be a 3 win team because they care about image, good luck with that.

It's seemed to work for them for the life span of their franchise.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 04:01 PM
And during the offseason, Ruthlessraper and Hootie would become best pals.
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Rausch
04-21-2010, 04:01 PM
I can't believe that St. Louis is even considering a trade for Ruthlessraper.

LMAO

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:01 PM
I think adding Roethlisberger, Berry, Thomas Jones, a few OL and a year of progression, familiarity and maturity and an upgrade in the coaching staff would spell all sorts of win for this offseason!

Pipe dream...

but if we offered all that (Cassel, 36, 2011 1st, 2011 3rd) for Roethlisberger it might be rather enticing to Pittsburgh.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 04:02 PM
Notorious, I get that. But in some cases, the distractions outweigh on field performance.
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Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:02 PM
And during the offseason, Ruthlessraper and Hootie would become best pals.
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that's fine with me...

I'll report back and tell you all if he really is a creepy, girl raping alcoholic....because I have my doubts about that one, too.

notorious
04-21-2010, 04:05 PM
Notorious, I get that. But in some cases, the distractions outweigh on field performance.
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Dane, you get everything. You are one of the few on here that understand QB's, their importance, and what we need to do to get one worth a fuck.


I can't even bust your balls since I agree with you most of the time LMAO.

The Bad Guy
04-21-2010, 04:05 PM
that's fine with me...

I'll report back and tell you all if he really is a creepy, girl raping alcoholic....because I have my doubts about that one, too.

Long before this came out, I heard tons of stories about him and his actions off the field.

Believe the hype.

notorious
04-21-2010, 04:05 PM
that's fine with me...

I'll report back and tell you all if he really is a creepy, girl raping alcoholic....because I have my doubts about that one, too.

Until you find out he was just using the girls to get to their boyfriends...........

DJ's left nut
04-21-2010, 04:06 PM
In a heartbeat.

I think Ben is guilty of being an absolute fuckstick. A completely irresponsible, overgrown fratboy gorilla.

I don't actually think he raped the girl. A) He is an NFL QB. All he'd need to do is find another groupy. Did he try to nail a drunk girl? Yup, but that's hardly a select club. B) A rape kit would've shown some pretty serious evidence of it if he actually assaulted the girl.

So the question for me isn't "Can I have a rapist at QB?" it's, "Can I have a complete douchenozzle and misogynist at QB?"

Uh...yeah, I can live with that.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:06 PM
Long before this came out, I heard tons of stories about him and his actions off the field.

Believe the hype.

I have few doubts that he's an asshole drunk, especially towards women...he's rich, a successful NFL QB, and young...no doubt in my mind he thinks he is superior to these young girls and can get any one of them he so chooses...

Doesn't mean I think he's walking around and raping them against their will...

Sorry, I don't trust 20 year old club rats with $$$ in their eyes.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 04:08 PM
Well Hootie, I don't.

I have a very close friend in Vegas who not only is involved in the club scene but whose wife worked at Harrah's for a decade that's told me the guy is VERY dirty.

Only you would give up Cassel, and 2011 first and third round picks for a guy that will miss six games or more next year.

Those 2011 picks would most likely be top ten.
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Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:10 PM
lets take the exact same scenario minus the fancy security guards and replace Mr. Roethlisberger with me...a 24 year old drunk asshole who finds demeaning young girls to be kind of a sport.

If I hooked up with that drunk ass girl in the bathroom, I guarantee it wouldn't have been against her will...and she and her friends would have known that. (Because I'm a normal person and have no desire to rape someone and then live in fear that I'll end up going to prison for it and in turn end up being raped by big, strong, African American men...)

However, I'm 24 and have zero commas in my bank account...so her friends would have been like..."god damnit Lacey you're an idiot stop being such a slut!" and they would have gone club ratting at the next spot, and then the next spot, and then the next spot...like they do every weekend.

Instead she hooked up with a rich QB and they all hear the stories on the news and they're like...cha ching!

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 04:12 PM
Sure, Hootie. ALL women are gold digging, slutty whores.
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Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:13 PM
Well Hootie, I don't.

I have a very close friend in Vegas who not only is involved in the club scene but whose wife worked at Harrah's for a decade that's told me the guy is VERY dirty.

Only you would give up Cassel, and 2011 first and third round picks for a guy that will miss six games or more next year.

Those 2011 picks would most likely be top ten.
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Yeah...

You're right...

I'd give up those picks in a SECOND...for a 28 year old franchise Super Bowl winning NFL QB...and you know what?

I'd give up a hell of a lot more as well...this is the ultimate buy low situation and if they really jumped on Cassel, 36, 2011 1st and 2011 3rd for Roethlisberger and it allowed us to still draft Berry and keep our other picks this year...

Hell yeah I'd mortgage a potential top 10 pick in 2011 for a guy who would be UNTOUCHABLE FOR 10 TOP 10 PICKS if he didn't have such ridiculous character concern...

and in all honesty...if I could do a futures bet on whether Roethlisberger ever gets in any significant trouble EVER again during his NFL career...I'd put my $$$ on NO.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-21-2010, 04:14 PM
I'm very close friends with someone who went to high school with him.

I'll report back what I find out.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:15 PM
Sure, Hootie. ALL women are gold digging, slutty whores.
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Underage girls at night clubs that are hanging out with superstar athletes...

I'm sorry Mr. McCloud...I know you have had your party history...

But perhaps you should trust someone who has spent the last 3 years partying with some of the most insanely hot, insanely slutty club rats in the nation...

Seriously...

Take a road trip to Illinois State University Campus...ISU (I Screwed Up)...4:1 girl to guy ratio...where every girl is stupid, and every girl wants to become a teacher or a nurse...and every girl wants to get pounded by any guy with a hint of status..."oh he fucked that girl who is slightly cuter than me?!?!? Well I'll show him!"

Seriously...

I'm never going to take the underage 20 year old club rats word over...anyones.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 04:16 PM
I want a franchise QB for this team YESTERDAY.

Just not Ruthlessraper.
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'Hamas' Jenkins
04-21-2010, 04:16 PM
You simply cannot pass that guy up. Imagine Jared Allen, but paying less for a more important player.

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 04:17 PM
lets take the exact same scenario minus the fancy security guards and replace Mr. Roethlisberger with me...a 24 year old drunk asshole who finds demeaning young girls to be kind of a sport.

If I hooked up with that drunk ass girl in the bathroom, I guarantee it wouldn't have been against her will...and she and her friends would have known that. (Because I'm a normal person and have no desire to rape someone and then live in fear that I'll end up going to prison for it and in turn end up being raped by big, strong, African American men...)

However, I'm 24 and have zero commas in my bank account...so her friends would have been like..."god damnit Lacey you're an idiot stop being such a slut!" and they would have gone club ratting at the next spot, and then the next spot, and then the next spot...like they do every weekend.

Instead she hooked up with a rich QB and they all hear the stories on the news and they're like...cha ching!

read the police report

plus the fact that the bathroom was scrubbed so no dna was available, and the security tapes were mysteriously erased...

the whole thing stinks to high heaven....the guy is a major fucking creep who got off because he's rich and famous

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-21-2010, 04:18 PM
If they are trading him for a top ten, then I'll offer them Cassel and #5 for Ben and a third.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:18 PM
I want a franchise QB for this team YESTERDAY.

Just not Ruthlessraper.
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Well then I guess we'll agree to disagree...

Seriously...

If push came to shove...

and the Steelers were like...

"Ok, the #5, Cassel, and your 2011 1st and THE DEAL IS DONE!"

I'd act like I was thinking about it...grunt a few times...huff and puff...and then say...DEAL!

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-21-2010, 04:19 PM
I will say this:

There are equally compelling arguments to be made on both sides of this issue. I don't necessarily think there is a "wrong" answer in this case.

He's a proven player in his prime but he carries a massive risk and will require a hefty price.

DeezNutz
04-21-2010, 04:21 PM
For one pick in this draft, especially when we have two seconds...

Done. Yesterday.

The compensation simply isn't demanding.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:21 PM
read the police report

plus the fact that the bathroom was scrubbed so no dna was available, and the security tapes were mysteriously erased...

the whole thing stinks to high heaven....the guy is a major ****ing creep who got off because he's rich and famous

I don't care what picture anyone is trying to paint for me...whether it be a police report...or whether they had hardcore, consensual, porno style, hair grabbing anal sex and he shot his massive load all over the bathroom and then was worried this very sexual assault scenario may present itself because the girl was 20, a club rat, and intoxicated...

I just refuse to believe a high profile, rich, WHITE (sorry, has to be said) NFL QB walks around with his posse and rapes girls because that's his fetish and then expects to get away with it...

Sorry.

I find that extremely hard to believe...

and find my scenario to be WAY more likely.

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 04:22 PM
i wouldn't stop rooting for the chiefs if we acquired him...hell, I'm a fan in the end

and he is without a doubt one of the top 4 QBs in the league...


i just wouldn't personally make the move

DeezNutz
04-21-2010, 04:23 PM
I agree with Hootie--did I just say that?--that the odds of Roethlisberger getting into trouble again seem pretty low. Just a guess. Nothing more.

And I don't give a fuck if the players are "nice guys" or even "decent guys."

I want fucking wins. Period.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:24 PM
out of everyone in the top 10...we have an enticing piece (Cassel) and the picks to STEAL him from the Steelers (whoa)...

Seriously...we all know Cassel sucks...but just one year ago he was highly regarded and this way the Steelers can get a QB back in the deal and point to his 2008 so fans have a little false hope while gaining some top tier picks...

and we get the steal of the decade.

TrickyNicky
04-21-2010, 04:24 PM
Trade for him and then draft Tebow and make them be bunkmates.

the Talking Can
04-21-2010, 04:24 PM
I don't care what picture anyone is trying to paint for me...whether it be a police report...or whether they had hardcore, consensual, porno style, hair grabbing anal sex and he shot his massive load all over the bathroom and then was worried this very sexual assault scenario may present itself because the girl was 20, a club rat, and intoxicated...

I just refuse to believe a high profile, rich, WHITE (sorry, has to be said) NFL QB walks around with his posse and rapes girls because that's his fetish and then expects to get away with it...

Sorry.

I find that extremely hard to believe...

and find my scenario to be WAY more likely.

honestly, you're kind of clueless...

we don't need to hypothesize..we have a lot of facts here that can't be denied just because you hang out with club whores...

your pet theories about humans are mostly infantile and kind of dumb

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:25 PM
people on this site, or in the media, or anywhere will skate around it...but I'm a nobody and don't care if people think I'm a racist asshole...

If he was black...I wouldn't touch him with a 20 foot pole.

But he's white and comes from a good family background. His risk is minimal. He's wise enough to know this is his last chance...

He's not from the ghetto...crime isn't all he knows.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:28 PM
honestly, you're kind of clueless...

we don't need to hypothesize..we have a lot of facts here that can't be denied just because you hang out with club whores...

your pet theories about humans are mostly infantile and kind of dumb

Whatever man...

Ok...so lets say he raped these two girls.

Fine.

He's gotten away with it now...both times. Cases closed.

I love to bet...I'd bet ANYTHING something like this doesn't happen for the next 7 years...and if it does...I bet you within 1 month it would be found as an unsubstantiated claim since Roethlisberger is such a target right now...

Basically...

I'll bet ANYTHING after this NFL suspension, he'll never face another one for the rest of his NFL career.

oldandslow
04-21-2010, 04:29 PM
people on this site, or in the media, or anywhere will skate around it...but I'm a nobody and don't care if people think I'm a racist asshole...

If he was black...I wouldn't touch him with a 20 foot pole.

But he's white and comes from a good family background. His risk is minimal. He's wise enough to know this is his last chance...

He's not from the ghetto...crime isn't all he knows.

Racism is still alive and well in 2010.

Cause we all know middle class white kids can't be rapists. It's just those black ones from the other side of the tracks...

Harper Lee wrote a book you should read.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:30 PM
and I love how 40-50 year old men are trying to tell ME how 20 year old club rats think...

I just got a neg rep from some 'warrior' fellow that said people should be at least 10 to post on here...

Really?

Fine...you guys keep trying to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about...and keep thinking BEN ROETHLISBERGER, HIGH PROFILE, VERY RICH NFL QB walks around night clubs and rapes unwilling underage girls because he can!

If you guys REALLY believe that...I don't know what to tell you.

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Racism is still alive and well in 2010.

Cause we all know middle class white kids can't be rapists. It's just those black ones from the other side of the tracks...

Harper Lee wrote a book you should read.

they can be rapists...sure.

and criminals!

But I'm sorry, I play the law of percentages...

kstater
04-21-2010, 04:32 PM
I agree with Hootie--did I just say that?--that the odds of Roethlisberger getting into trouble again seem pretty low. Just a guess. Nothing more.

And I don't give a fuck if the players are "nice guys" or even "decent guys."

I want fucking wins. Period.

Regardless of the validity of the allegations, people who are rapists are not the type that just stop doing it. So, if the allegations are true, the chances are pretty high it would happen again.

ROYC75
04-21-2010, 04:40 PM
Well then I guess we'll agree to disagree...

Seriously...

If push came to shove...

and the Steelers were like...

"Ok, the #5, Cassel, and your 2011 1st and THE DEAL IS DONE!"

I'd act like I was thinking about it...grunt a few times...huff and puff...and then say...DEAL!

No way ! Will he learn ? Look at Jared Allen, he hasn't changed much.

Blitz
04-21-2010, 04:51 PM
Racism is still alive and well in 2010.

Cause we all know middle class white kids can't be rapists. It's just those black ones from the other side of the tracks...

Harper Lee wrote a book you should read.

I agree completely. That douche seems to be a future KKK member, in fact he may already be one.

What roethlisberger did was wrong, regardless of race.

As for the football player, he's a dumpster fire, a controversy waiting to happen and really although he won two superbowls, his surrounding cast had more to do with those victories then he did.

PASS.

ROYC75
04-21-2010, 04:54 PM
I agree completely. That douche seems to be a future KKK member, in fact he may already be one.

What roethlisberger did was wrong, regardless of race.

As for the football player, he's a dumpster fire, a controversy waiting to happen and really although he won two superbowls, his surrounding cast had more to do with those victories then he did.

PASS.

This!

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:55 PM
yeah dude I'm a klan member! YEAH! GO KLAN! I have klan meetings on Thursdays and rape fests on Wednesdays...

Short Leash Hootie
04-21-2010, 04:57 PM
I do find it funny how scared people are to call things how they are...

Some call it racist, others think of it as the truth.

In other words...idiots think I'm a racist, smart people know I call it like it is.

BigChiefFan
04-21-2010, 05:04 PM
Wow, Goodell's speech was commendable.

BigRock
04-21-2010, 05:13 PM
Rape schmape. Over the last four years alone, the guy has averaged a concussion per season. That's far more concerning towards his long-term prospects than what he might have done in some bar bathroom.

I'd try to get a deal done somehow, but not for the #5 overall pick.

mcaj22
04-21-2010, 05:13 PM
and I love how 40-50 year old men are trying to tell ME how 20 year old club rats think...

I just got a neg rep from some 'warrior' fellow that said people should be at least 10 to post on here...

Really?

Fine...you guys keep trying to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about...and keep thinking BEN ROETHLISBERGER, HIGH PROFILE, VERY RICH NFL QB walks around night clubs and rapes unwilling underage girls because he can!

If you guys REALLY believe that...I don't know what to tell you.


He's not raping them, but if a COCKY HIGH PROFILE VERY RICH NFL QB wants that pretty blond female in the club that is giving him a chubby, no matter if she feels the same way or not, he will most certainly use his name and power and pull to achieve it.

What's so hard to fucking grasp here? Ben Roethlisberger is your below average ugly looking clown shoe of a male, that in fact, if he didn't have his NFL status around him, he would probably not be getting laid by over half of the pretty girls that do actually touch him.

He looks like every average dude that is not in the NFL that I see barely even have pretty girls wink in their direction, the dude is clearly a sexual deviant taking advantage of his pull, and if that is going to clubs and being overly aggressive like he's Gene Simmons in the 70s trying to point at chicks in the crowd to bang backstage, than so be it.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 05:31 PM
Trade for him...yesterday.

tyler360
04-21-2010, 05:35 PM
Who cares what he does off the field that stuff is overblown. As long as he wins on sundays.

But if what he does off the field gets in the way of on the field stuff then you have to be a little more worried.

This kinda reminds me of the Jared Allen thing.

It worked out for the vikings so i think it would work for the chiefs.

notorious
04-21-2010, 05:35 PM
Trade for him...yesterday.

Twice.

MahiMike
04-21-2010, 06:07 PM
I cannot believe this poll. Anyone that doesn't want Ben is WeTawdid.

Nightfyre
04-21-2010, 06:09 PM
Trade for him...yesterday.

Swap firsts with the steelers and you have a reasonable deal IMO.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 06:48 PM
Before considering a trade for Ruthlessraper, he should put him through rigorous and intense psychological testing.

Sexual deviancy isn't something that's likely to go away anytime soon.

And for the record, I seriously can't believe some of the people that would trade for this human piece of dogshit. You must not know a fucking thing about his personal life or believe that a person can actually be a drunk fucking asshole and still be a good QB.

If the Chiefs traded for him, I wouldn't watch them or support them until he was gone.

Fuck him.

TEX
04-21-2010, 06:55 PM
Trade for him...yesterday.

+ 1

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 06:58 PM
No way ! Will he learn ? Look at Jared Allen, he hasn't changed much.

Jared hasn't changed much?

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 07:26 PM
Trade for him...yesterday.

Before considering a trade for Ruthlessraper, he should put him through rigorous and intense psychological testing.

Sexual deviancy isn't something that's likely to go away anytime soon.

And for the record, I seriously can't believe some of the people that would trade for this human piece of dogshit. You must not know a ****ing thing about his personal life or believe that a person can actually be a drunk ****ing asshole and still be a good QB.

If the Chiefs traded for him, I wouldn't watch them or support them until he was gone.

**** him.

Hmmm, a difference of opinion between Dane and Mecca.

Does this make this a 50-50 proposition?

patteeu
04-21-2010, 07:26 PM
Before considering a trade for Ruthlessraper, he should put him through rigorous and intense psychological testing.

Sexual deviancy isn't something that's likely to go away anytime soon.

And for the record, I seriously can't believe some of the people that would trade for this human piece of dogshit. You must not know a ****ing thing about his personal life or believe that a person can actually be a drunk ****ing asshole and still be a good QB.

If the Chiefs traded for him, I wouldn't watch them or support them until he was gone.

**** him.

What can you tell us about his personal life aside from the reports from the women who have accused him of sexual assault?

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 07:32 PM
I voted no. Too much baggage and he seems to have a problem with women telling him no.

The_Doctor10
04-21-2010, 07:33 PM
Two Super Bowl wins, youngest ever QB to win a Super Bowl... Should pass on him till more of a sure thing comes around. That 5th pick could be used on the o-line doncha know?

chiefzilla1501
04-21-2010, 07:35 PM
What can you tell us about his personal life aside from the reports from the women who have accused him of sexual assault?

Umm....

The guy bullheadedly refused to wear a helmet when riding a bike and did so only when he was near death.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. There seems to be consistency in some of the charges and not even all the girls are actually pressing charges or demanding attention. Seems like Big Ben's a big fan of just randomly whipping his dick out and stalking girls.

Big Ben had a picture taken years ago hammered off his ass with a "Drink like a champion today" shirt, which has become pretty famous on the net. Pretty significant, since it seems like most incidents have involved drinking. And pretty creepy behavior that followed. But I suppose lacerations of the vagina, that's pretty normal shit.

And then there's this. You're being charged for rape in Vegas. Maybe it's a BS case, which is how most people interpreted it. But you have to be a fucking idiot to be under that kind of scrutiny, and then have a night orchestrated around getting girls publicly drunk and then having bodyguard's protect a bathroom while Big Ben has sex in it.

It's not so much the personal behavior as much as it is his complete lack of common sense.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-21-2010, 07:43 PM
Is he Mike Tyson or Kobe Bryant?

We don't know.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 07:45 PM
Is he Mike Tyson or Kobe Bryant?

We don't know.

Leaning towards Tyson. Kobe only had 1 incident I think Ben is on #3

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 07:47 PM
Is he Mike Tyson or Kobe Bryant?

We don't know.

Great comparison.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 07:47 PM
What can you tell us about his personal life aside from the reports from the women who have accused him of sexual assault?

I've mentioned this in various threads but he parties in Vegas 10x as often as LJ ever did. The security ALWAYS has to keep an eye on him because he constantly plays 'grab ass" with the waitresses and has a tendency to get extremely drunk, which leads to even shittier behavior. As I mentioned earlier, I've got a very good friend I've known for more than 25 years that's involved in the club scene there and has several friends that have a shit-ton of dirt on Ruthlessraper.

He's got the biggest, puffiest, moon-drunk face ever. If you look strictly at his face, he's got the face of an alcoholic.

I know more about the Tahoe incident but I'm not going to share. There are certain people in the forum that are convinced that she's a nutjob, regardless of what I've been told directly by people that worked with her.

chiefzilla1501
04-21-2010, 07:53 PM
Leaning towards Tyson. Kobe only had 1 incident I think Ben is on #3

Yup.

If he's a member of the Chiefs, lots of things to worry about:
-Will he stop drinking? I doubt it
-Will he do something stupid? Probably, given that he didn't listen to anybody about riding his bike, let alone without a helmet. And given that I'm sure the team warned him about these kinds of behaviors to women as well as his reputation for drinking like crazy, and he clearly didn't listen
-Will he be blamed in the future? I would think so. Even if he's a choir boy from here on out, he's a moving target and you wonder if women looking for attention will target Big Ben, which will be a major distraction
-The Andrea McNulty case isn't over--who knows if this is a future distraction or even if he's found guilty

If he ends up on the Chiefs, I'd of course root for him. I just want to win. But I think there's a pretty enormous potential for him being a major distraction wherever he goes.

chiefzilla1501
04-21-2010, 07:55 PM
I've mentioned this in various threads but he parties in Vegas 10x as often as LJ ever did. The security ALWAYS has to keep an eye on him because he constantly plays 'grab ass" with the waitresses and has a tendency to get extremely drunk, which leads to even shittier behavior. As I mentioned earlier, I've got a very good friend I've known for more than 25 years that's involved in the club scene there and has several friends that have a shit-ton of dirt on Ruthlessraper.

He's got the biggest, puffiest, moon-drunk face ever. If you look strictly at his face, he's got the face of an alcoholic.

I know more about the Tahoe incident but I'm not going to share. There are certain people in the forum that are convinced that she's a nutjob, regardless of what I've been told directly by people that worked with her.

I've heard from several sources that Big Ben is also cited in a shitload of divorce proceedings.

Actually, it's amazing he hasn't gotten his ass kicked yet. I don't know how many wives you can mess around with before you get caught by the wrong husband.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 07:58 PM
Boston lawyer Harry Manion told WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Show on Tuesday that Manion was involved in an investigation regarding another Big Ben incident.

Said Manion: "[T]here is a history here this is just super troubling (http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2010/04/13/boston-attorney-on-roethlisberger-there-is-a-history-here-that-is-just-super-troubling/)."

Manion specifically referred to an incident from 2009, also in Nevada. "Six months ago I was retained by a client of mine and a close friend to investigate allegations against Ben Roethlisberger in a Las Vegas nightclub that were absolutely identical to this Georgia girl's story," Manion said.

Manion believes that, if Roethlisberger ever is going to change his ways, the near miss in Georgia will be the impetus.

"Unless he's totally brain dead -- and we don't know -- he would be scared," Manion said. "Because he has really walked a perilous line here. There's a whole litany here, not only my experience, I have connected with several other people that have experience. And you know, there's only so far that he said/she said will get you. There's only so far that paying hush money will get you, if hush money is paid. And there's only so far that, 'Gee, we're celebrities, we have a target on our back,' will get you. When you see this much smoke, month after month and continuously . . . . It's the scene that he's gotten himself caught up with, and the belief that he can walk, and so far, so good. But it's hurting him. He's hurt. He has been damaged. And the next one, the wrath of God's going to come down on him, if there is a next one."

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 08:01 PM
Boston lawyer Harry Manion told WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Show on Tuesday that Manion was involved in an investigation regarding another Big Ben incident.

Said Manion: "[T]here is a history here this is just super troubling (http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2010/04/13/boston-attorney-on-roethlisberger-there-is-a-history-here-that-is-just-super-troubling/)."

Manion specifically referred to an incident from 2009, also in Nevada. "Six months ago I was retained by a client of mine and a close friend to investigate allegations against Ben Roethlisberger in a Las Vegas nightclub that were absolutely identical to this Georgia girl's story," Manion said.

Manion believes that, if Roethlisberger ever is going to change his ways, the near miss in Georgia will be the impetus.

"Unless he's totally brain dead -- and we don't know -- he would be scared," Manion said. "Because he has really walked a perilous line here. There's a whole litany here, not only my experience, I have connected with several other people that have experience. And you know, there's only so far that he said/she said will get you. There's only so far that paying hush money will get you, if hush money is paid. And there's only so far that, 'Gee, we're celebrities, we have a target on our back,' will get you. When you see this much smoke, month after month and continuously . . . . It's the scene that he's gotten himself caught up with, and the belief that he can walk, and so far, so good. But it's hurting him. He's hurt. He has been damaged. And the next one, the wrath of God's going to come down on him, if there is a next one."

Basically his cloak of invincibility has been taken away. If he screws up again he would have to be an epic moron.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 08:02 PM
Basically his cloak of invincibility has been taken away. If he screws up again he would have to be an epic moron.

If he's a sexual deviant, he may not have a choice

chiefzilla1501
04-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Boston lawyer Harry Manion told WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Show on Tuesday that Manion was involved in an investigation regarding another Big Ben incident.

Said Manion: "[T]here is a history here this is just super troubling (http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2010/04/13/boston-attorney-on-roethlisberger-there-is-a-history-here-that-is-just-super-troubling/)."

Manion specifically referred to an incident from 2009, also in Nevada. "Six months ago I was retained by a client of mine and a close friend to investigate allegations against Ben Roethlisberger in a Las Vegas nightclub that were absolutely identical to this Georgia girl's story," Manion said.

Manion believes that, if Roethlisberger ever is going to change his ways, the near miss in Georgia will be the impetus.

"Unless he's totally brain dead -- and we don't know -- he would be scared," Manion said. "Because he has really walked a perilous line here. There's a whole litany here, not only my experience, I have connected with several other people that have experience. And you know, there's only so far that he said/she said will get you. There's only so far that paying hush money will get you, if hush money is paid. And there's only so far that, 'Gee, we're celebrities, we have a target on our back,' will get you. When you see this much smoke, month after month and continuously . . . . It's the scene that he's gotten himself caught up with, and the belief that he can walk, and so far, so good. But it's hurting him. He's hurt. He has been damaged. And the next one, the wrath of God's going to come down on him, if there is a next one."

We'll see.

Will he stop being so blatant about being creepy around women? I'm pretty sure he would.

Will that stop him from drinking? Will that stop him from being creepy privately around women? And will this case make him an open target for women to accuse him of crimes he didn't commit?

All it takes is a semen sample from one future encounter, even if it was consensual, for Big Ben to be under the microscope again. I don't think he'll ever escape this again in his career.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 08:04 PM
Hmmm, a difference of opinion between Dane and Mecca.

Does this make this a 50-50 proposition?

I'm not a "win at all costs" guy when it comes to rape.

If the guy had a DUI, big deal.

Rape?

No way.

notorious
04-21-2010, 08:06 PM
How can such a piece of shit douche be blessed with such skill?


God has a sick sense of fucking humor.

DeezNutz
04-21-2010, 08:06 PM
I'm not a "win at all costs" guy when it comes to rape.

If the guy had a DUI, big deal.

Rape?

No way.

I realize you have much more info. about all of this, but my opinion would be different if he were convicted or even officially charged with something.

In absence of either of these...

But I reserve the right to change my opinion as more information is presented.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 08:08 PM
I realize you have much more info. about all of this, but my opinion would be different if he were convicted or even officially charged with something.

In absence of either of these...

But I reserve the right to change my opinion as more information is presented.

It's difficult to prove rape when alcohol's involved and even more difficult when the accused is paying off the accusers.

If BR didn't have these cases hanging over his head, there's no way that Pittsburgh would ever consider trading him. And I've been told that they know MUCH more than what's been released publicly.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:10 PM
I realize you have much more info. about all of this, but my opinion would be different if he were convicted or even officially charged with something.

In absence of either of these...

But I reserve the right to change my opinion as more information is presented.

Hypothetically Would you have traded for OJ Simpson once he was acquitted if he was in his prime?

DeezNutz
04-21-2010, 08:11 PM
OJ Simpson?

Wasn't charged?

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:12 PM
If he wins the Chiefs a bowl I really don't care, I bet we can find people that will lineup to let him molest them for a Super bowl in return.

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 08:13 PM
It's difficult to prove rape when alcohol's involved and even more difficult when the accused is paying off the accusers.

If BR didn't have these cases hanging over his head, there's no way that Pittsburgh would ever consider trading him. And I've been told that they know MUCH more than what's been released publicly.

I do have to agree, there is likely more than the public knows going on to cause the Steelers to want to trade him.

It also could have to do with Steeler fans thinking (rightly) that the team is bigger than any one player and they hate the negative pub after the years and years of nothing but love and the fan revolt is forcing the issue.

Easy to do when you are a perennial winner.

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 08:14 PM
Listening to the radio this afternoon, they were talking to a Pitt reporter. According to him, Pitt is really a small city team that cares a ton about their fans and what the fans think. According to this guy, ever since the 2nd allegation became public Steeler fans have been writing to the team like mad, people have been sending all of their Rothlesberger jerseys back to the team and their has been a huge public outcry against him. The reporter was saying that Ben wasn't all that popular before the 2nd incident. People more or less tolerated him because he won 2 Super Bowls but he was never really liked because he's an ass.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:14 PM
From what I've heard at least people I know is, they are pretty pissed that they want to get rid of Ben.

The Steelers care about image, that's nice, image doesn't win games.

notorious
04-21-2010, 08:15 PM
Easy to do when you are a perennial winner.



This.


They are a spoiled fanbase.

I for one can't wait until they come back down to Earth.

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 08:16 PM
From what I've heard at least people I know is, they are pretty pissed that they want to get rid of Ben.

The Steelers care about image, that's nice, image doesn't win games.

I think the Steelers organization believe they can win without him. Maybe not next year but soon after. They think long term, all the time.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:18 PM
I think the Steelers organization believe they can win without him. Maybe not next year but soon after. They think long term, all the time.

Win like they did before him where they were Marty every year, in the playoffs and a loss, hey that's really something to aspire to.

Any fan that really wants to trade their teams franchise player because "he doesn't act right" needs a reality check.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 08:19 PM
From what I've heard at least people I know is, they are pretty pissed that they want to get rid of Ben.

The Steelers care about image, that's nice, image doesn't win games.

What do the Steelers and the Rooney family do any further to prove that they know what they're doing for the betterment of their franchise?

JFC, Mecca, they've won TWO Super Bowls this decade to go along with FOUR in the 1970's.

We're not talking about the Hunts, we're talking about essentially the first family of the NFL.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:19 PM
Wasn't charged?


I look at it this way, the rich and famous can always buy, wiggle, squirm, lie their way out of anything so by him not getting charged or OJ being found innocent is really about them being rich and famous not because they are innocent.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:21 PM
What do the Steelers and the Rooney family do any further to prove that they know what they're doing for the betterment of their franchise?

JFC, Mecca, they've won TWO Super Bowls this decade to go along with FOUR in the 1970's.

We're not talking about the Hunts, we're talking about essentially the first family of the NFL.

Yep.

tk13
04-21-2010, 08:21 PM
The Steelers care about image, that's nice, image doesn't win games.

Says the Patriots, Colts, and Steelers as they've been in every Super Bowl but about one this past decade...

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:21 PM
They hadn't won a superbowl in my lifetime till they finally got a QB, they can ship him out and wait 30 years to win another one, be my guest.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:21 PM
Says the Patriots, Colts, and Steelers as they've been in every Super Bowl but about one this past decade...

I'm sure that has everything to do with image and nothing to do with who those teams are built around.

Marcellus
04-21-2010, 08:22 PM
What do the Steelers and the Rooney family do any further to prove that they know what they're doing for the betterment of their franchise?

JFC, Mecca, they've won TWO Super Bowls this decade to go along with FOUR in the 1970's.

We're not talking about the Hunts, we're talking about essentially the first family of the NFL.

This. Ben would be a blip and they would move on doing what they do and get a top 10 pick out of him.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:25 PM
I think Mecca would support a convicted child molester as our QB as long as he won SB's.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:26 PM
I think Mecca would support a convicted child molester as our QB as long as he won SB's.

He's not my friend, I really could give 2 fucks if he's winning bowls.

Also did you all forget what the Steelers were before they drafted Roethlisberger, yep they can go back to being the perennial playoff loser.

notorious
04-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Possible Scenario:


Steelers get a top 10 pick for Rapeslutsburger. They use their two 1st rounders to trade up to #1 to grab Bradford.

I am not a Bradford fan, but there has been rumors that Pittsburgh like him a lot.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:29 PM
He's not my friend, I really could give 2 fucks if he's winning bowls.

Also did you all forget what the Steelers were before they drafted Roethlisberger, yep they can go back to being the perennial playoff loser.

My statement wasn't about Big Ben.

So would you support the Chiefs having a convicted child molester as our QB as long as he was winning SB's?

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 08:34 PM
He's not my friend, I really could give 2 fucks if he's winning bowls.

Also did you all forget what the Steelers were before they drafted Roethlisberger, yep they can go back to being the perennial playoff loser.

Huh?

They were in the AFC Championship year after year after year under Cowher.

Now, I absolutely think they would have won at least one more Super Bowl, if not several, if they had a legitimate QB at the helm during those years.

But they were FAR from a perennial loser.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 08:37 PM
Did they or did they not win any bowls before Roethlisberger since the 70s, the answer is no.

They made it once and lost.

tk13
04-21-2010, 08:41 PM
We all know Mecca would build the Bengals... he has never cared about character. That's just how he views it.

I don't think it's totally about image though. If you think Bill Polian gives a flying rats anus about what you, or even any Colts fan, thinks of his team, you're giving yourself way too much credit. These teams pretty much do what they want. Whether it's getting rid of Marvin Harrison, Santonio Holmes, trading Lawyer Milloy away... if you want to do something stupid they won't put up with it.

What Mecca doesn't get, is that it goes much deeper than that. That ability to recognize and evaluate character is what helps these guys build dynasties. It doesn't have to be the "right 53" of all boy scouts or anything like that... that'll be Mecca's argument. But the ability to evaluate character surely helped tip the scales of Manning over Ryan Leaf, and Edge over Ricky Williams when that was considered an odd decision. It's not like they only sign milk and cookies guys but they are able to create an atmosphere where they get the most of guys.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:43 PM
I guess the answer is yes. that is pretty bad.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 08:54 PM
Did they or did they not win any bowls before Roethlisberger since the 70s, the answer is no.

They made it once and lost.

So all you care about is a win?

Thankfully, most people disagree.

Regular Americans, you know, the ones that AREN'T in the news or on shows like TMZ on a daily basis for fucking up, are sick of pampered, cry-baby athletes that make millions upon millions of dollars to play a fucking GAME.

The money is there and has to be paid, so the athletes WILL get paid. But no one likes rooting for a fuck up (Joey Porter ring any bells?) or for a two-time accused rapist who paid off anyone in the vicinity of his crimes.

I want the Chiefs to build a winning organization but not at the expense of losing their dignity as a franchise or shaming the city in which they reside.

Apparently, the Rooney's feel the same way.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 08:54 PM
BTW Mecca are you going to go ahead and start the official NFL Draft thread? It is less than 24 hours away.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 09:00 PM
So all you care about is a win?

Thankfully, most people disagree.

Regular Americans, you know, the ones that AREN'T in the news or on shows like TMZ on a daily basis for fucking up, are sick of pampered, cry-baby athletes that make millions upon millions of dollars to play a fucking GAME.

The money is there and has to be paid, so the athletes WILL get paid. But no one likes rooting for a fuck up (Joey Porter ring any bells?) or for a two-time accused rapist who paid off anyone in the vicinity of his crimes.

I want the Chiefs to build a winning organization but not at the expense of losing their dignity as a franchise or shaming the city in which they reside.

Apparently, the Rooney's feel the same way.

:clap::clap:

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:01 PM
I really don't care, like I said they aren't my pals I don't hang out with them or know them.

The Cowboys team was full of dumbshits they won 3 bowls.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:04 PM
I really don't care, like I said they aren't my pals I don't hang out with them or know them.

The Cowboys team was full of dumbshits they won 3 bowls.

The face of their franchise was not a "Dumbshit".

THAT'S the difference.

Over-Head
04-21-2010, 09:08 PM
So all you care about is a win?.

How about the Chiefs go 0-16, we'd soon fucken see if YOU cared about a win or not.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:10 PM
How about the Chiefs go 0-16, we'd soon fucken see if YOU cared about a win or not.

I don't think the Chiefs are in danger of going 0-16 anytime soon.

And even if they did, I'd rather have a guy like Stafford than like Ruthlessraper.

philfree
04-21-2010, 09:10 PM
It's one thing to realize that your chamiponship team was loaded with a holes and say oh well. It's a different thing to know guys are undesirable and still bring them in to win a championship. Expost facto....or guilty? LOL


PhilFree:arrow:

ChiefsCountry
04-21-2010, 09:13 PM
I think I would take the Super Bowl wins and worry about him keeping his dick in his pants later.

KCChiefsFan88
04-21-2010, 09:14 PM
So all you care about is a win?

Thankfully, most people disagree.

Regular Americans, you know, the ones that AREN'T in the news or on shows like TMZ on a daily basis for ****ing up, are sick of pampered, cry-baby athletes that make millions upon millions of dollars to play a ****ing GAME.

The money is there and has to be paid, so the athletes WILL get paid. But no one likes rooting for a **** up (Joey Porter ring any bells?) or for a two-time accused rapist who paid off anyone in the vicinity of his crimes.

I want the Chiefs to build a winning organization but not at the expense of losing their dignity as a franchise or shaming the city in which they reside.

Apparently, the Rooney's feel the same way.

This is why KC will be doomed with shitty pro teams for eternity.

If you are looking for solid upstanding citizens, role models for your kids, blah blah blah go watch the Hallmark Channel.

If you want to win a championship you need the best players available. I don't give a shit what guys do off the field... as long as they win that is all that matters.

Ben Roethlisberger could have committed genocide in Darfur and I could frankly care less if it meant the Chiefs having a realistic chance to land a 28 year old 2 time Super Bowl winning QB.

philfree
04-21-2010, 09:15 PM
I think I would suck his dick and iron his pants later.

FYP


PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:16 PM
Last I checked, we weren't putting together a church group.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:17 PM
This is why KC will be doomed with shitty pro teams for eternity.

If you are looking for solid upstanding citizens, role models for your kids, blah blah blah go watch the Hallmark Channel.

If you want to win a championship you need the best players available. I don't give a shit what guys do off the field... as long as they win that is all that matters.

Ben Roethlisberger could have committed genocide in Darfur and I could frankly care less if it meant the Chiefs having a realistic chance to land a 28 year old 2 time Super Bowl winning QB.

Go fuck yourself.

You are truly one of the most idiotic people to ever post on this forum.

The Chiefs will or will not win a championship based on their drafts, free agent acquisitions and coaching.

NOT by adding fucking thugs and criminals.

Again, just go fuck yourself and it would be NICE (although not likely) that you NEVER post here again.

Fucktard.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 09:18 PM
I think I would take the Super Bowl wins and worry about him keeping his dick in his pants later.

even if it was your daughter?

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:18 PM
When that thug or criminal is one of the best players in the league at his position, it kinda changes a bit.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:18 PM
even if it was your daughter?

Dude for a superbowl he can molest you.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:19 PM
When that thug or criminal is one of the best players in the league at his position, it kinda changes a bit.

Thankfully, Roger Goodell thinks otherwise.

KCChiefsFan88
04-21-2010, 09:19 PM
Go **** yourself.

You are truly one of the most idiotic people to ever post on this forum.

The Chiefs will or will not win a championship based on their drafts, free agent acquisitions and coaching.

NOT by adding ****ing thugs and criminals.

Again, just go **** yourself and it would be NICE (although not likely) that you NEVER post here again.

****tard.

Can you say with a straight face that the Chiefs wouldn't be in a better position to win a championshp than they are today with Ben Roethlisberger as their starting QB?

Go ahead and attempt to make that argument dumb shit.

BigChiefFan
04-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Bills | Not interested in acquiring Ben Roethlisberger
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Updating a previous item, the Buffalo Bills are not interested in trading for Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.


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Updating a previous item, the St. Louis Rams are not interested in trading for Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw.php/nfl#ixzz0lnNj8W5B

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:20 PM
I preferred Tagliabue as a commissioner.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Bills | Not interested in acquiring Ben Roethlisberger
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Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:48:46 -0400

Updating a previous item, the Buffalo Bills are not interested in trading for Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.


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Rams | Not interested in acquiring Ben Roethlisberger
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Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:47:52 -0400

Updating a previous item, the St. Louis Rams are not interested in trading for Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.



Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw.php/nfl#ixzz0lnNj8W5B

More reasons why the Bills are a perennial doormat.

philfree
04-21-2010, 09:20 PM
When that thug or criminal is one of the best players in the league at his position, it kinda changes a bit.

No it doesn't...

PhilFree:arrow:

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Can you say with a straight face that the Chiefs wouldn't be in a better position to win a championshp than they are today with Ben Roethlisberger as their starting QB?

Go ahead and attempt to make that argument dumb shit.

Would the Steelers want to trade his ass if he wasn't a gigantic liability at this point?

Go ahead and attempt to make that argument dumb shit.

dirk digler
04-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Dude for a superbowl he can molest you.

LMAO Fuck you

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:22 PM
It's really nice the Steelers care about their public image, maybe when you've recently won you can mandate this.

After 40 years of shit I think winning trumps image.

philfree
04-21-2010, 09:24 PM
I preferred Tagliabue as a commissioner.

Me too but that don't change my thinking..


PhilFree:arrow:

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:24 PM
It's really nice the Steelers care about their public image, maybe when you've recently won you can mandate this.

After 40 years of shit I think winning trumps image.

I think you're crazy if you think that Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt are even remotely interested in trading for Ruthlessraper.

That city would go NUTS, and not in a good way. There'd be protesters out at Arrowhead every Sunday and the local media would vilify them all.

Chiefnj2
04-21-2010, 09:25 PM
I think you're crazy if you think that Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt are even remotely interested in trading for Ruthlessraper.

That city would go NUTS, and not in a good way. There'd be protesters out at Arrowhead every Sunday and the local media would vilify them all.

DT was always a hero and he wasn't exactly father of the year to his 7 kids with 5 different women.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:25 PM
Me too but that don't change my thinking..


PhilFree:arrow:

Wow, not me.

I thought "Tags" was a jackass lawyer that only cared about money.

Goddell seems to care about the image of the league and to not allow it to enter NBA territory with its thuggery.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:26 PM
I think you're crazy if you think that Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt are even remotely interested in trading for Ruthlessraper.

That city would go NUTS, and not in a good way. There'd be protesters out at Arrowhead every Sunday and the local media would vilify them all.

We're not, cause we're one of those teams, just like Buffalo.

We care what everyone thinks.

BigChiefFan
04-21-2010, 09:26 PM
You have to draw a line in the sand. Anybody that gives up a first rounder for him is basically condoning his actions. Say what you will about his play, but a move like this can't be good for the image of a team trying to stake their claim in improving. An alleged rapist as the face of your franchise is a bad move for a team already struggling to bring fans back.

KCChiefsFan88
04-21-2010, 09:26 PM
Would the Steelers want to trade his ass if he wasn't a gigantic liability at this point?

Go ahead and attempt to make that argument dumb shit.

If Pittsburgh trades him they are looking at 5-11 seasons for the next 5 years.

How is Roethlisberger an ON THE FIELD liability? He is a 28 year old 2 time Super Bowl winner. Him getting a little on the side with a drunk slut during the offseason means NOTHING.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:26 PM
Anyone jumping around trying to be the morality police is not going to get a high mark from me.

Mecca
04-21-2010, 09:27 PM
Also I hope Pittsburgh trades him, I don't like the Steelers and their team will become a pile of shit for me to laugh at.

CosmicPal
04-21-2010, 09:27 PM
Anyone jumping around trying to be the morality police is not going to get a high mark from me.

Anyone willing to give up their #5 pick in the draft for that fucktard is not going to get a high mark from me.

DaneMcCloud
04-21-2010, 09:27 PM
DT was always a hero and he wasn't exactly father of the year to his 7 kids with 5 different women.

While he led a less than conservative lifestyle, it certainly wasn't illegal. And for the most part, people didn't even know that he had seven kids because it wasn't publicized.

It only became public knowledge after he died.

philfree
04-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Wow, not me.

I thought "Tags" was a jackass lawyer that only cared about money.

Goddell seems to care about the image of the league and to not allow it to enter NBA territory with its thuggery.

There wouldn't ahve been an uncapped year if Tags with in charge. Hell maybe that would have been bad. I don't know.....I'm not sold on Godhell....


PhilFree:arrow: