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RedThat
04-22-2010, 06:28 PM
Im really excited about the Berry pick. But now what do you think they're gonna do?

Could they still go defense? Im hoping they go linebacker now. I think it should be linebacker all the way unless Clausen falls to the 2nd round. Id say it have to be a toss up between him or defense.

DA_T_84
04-22-2010, 06:32 PM
Mays or Spikes FTW

milkman
04-22-2010, 06:32 PM
Watch the rest of the first round.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-22-2010, 06:33 PM
Trade up for Jimmy Clausen!!!!

SNR
04-22-2010, 06:34 PM
Jimmy Clausen. Nobody's taking him. He'll fall pretty far now.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 06:34 PM
Some 1st round grade players will fall and we should take the best player. Great draft.

kcpasco
04-22-2010, 06:35 PM
linebacker or now you can take the best available offensive lineman

aturnis
04-22-2010, 06:35 PM
Disneyland?

Marcellus
04-22-2010, 06:37 PM
Some 1st round grade players will fall and we should take the best player. Great draft.

Whats a first rounder? JK.

I have been so obsessed with the 5th overall I haven't even thought about the 2nd round yet.

Thig Lyfe
04-22-2010, 06:37 PM
If they trade up into the late 1st round and take Clausen, I will literally ejaculate.

aturnis
04-22-2010, 06:37 PM
What about Cody? NT needs another body. Smith might do better than Ron Edwards, but he's not going to kill it. Clausen, Cody, Golden Tate....I'd be happy with a lot of guys.

Saul Good
04-22-2010, 06:38 PM
Trade up for Clausen or Cody

Chris Meck
04-22-2010, 06:40 PM
Or Pouncey, or Iupati, or Tate...all needs. All good choices.

KC Tattoo
04-22-2010, 06:42 PM
Any chance we take QB Dan LeFevour in third or fourth round?

HoneyBadger
04-22-2010, 06:43 PM
Oh shit, there's more to the draft?? My day just got better.

First Berry, and now we get to pick more? God is good.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 06:44 PM
Stay true to your draft board, Pioli. Don't reach for any players. There's going to be alot of quality players in the 2nd round.

Chris Meck
04-22-2010, 06:45 PM
sure. I think it's real likely that Pioli/Weis will try to strike gold again with a mid-late round QB.

aturnis
04-22-2010, 06:47 PM
Or Pouncey, or Iupati, or Tate...all needs. All good choices.

Fuck the oline. Maybe the second 2nd, or the 4th round or later. DEFENSE MOTHAFUCKA! That and receiver...

chief4life
04-22-2010, 06:48 PM
Could you imagine mays and berry on the same field :eek: That would be amazing but how bout Golden Tate? Would you like that pick?

88TG88
04-22-2010, 06:49 PM
tebow 4 sure

el borracho
04-22-2010, 06:49 PM
If Pioli receives my psychic message 2a should be Mays.

aturnis
04-22-2010, 06:49 PM
Could you imagine mays and berry on the same field :eek: That would be amazing but how bout Golden Tate? Would you like that pick?

slot like a motherfucker.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 06:54 PM
TWO. Count 'em...TWO Draft picks in the 2nd round. Time to restock the cupboards.

rwalke10
04-22-2010, 06:55 PM
What about Cody? NT needs another body. Smith might do better than Ron Edwards, but he's not going to kill it. Clausen, Cody, Golden Tate....I'd be happy with a lot of guys.

NT...ANY NT would be sweet. Plug that hole so Berry and Flowers have more time to work their magic! Secondary made way too many tackles last year. :clap:

RedThat
04-22-2010, 06:56 PM
Could you imagine mays and berry on the same field :eek: That would be amazing but how bout Golden Tate? Would you like that pick?

Yes I would.

But, I like to see Hughes slip. The Chiefs have the cover guys, now it's time to get that passrusher.

chief4life
04-22-2010, 07:03 PM
Yes I would.

But, I like to see Hughes slip. The Chiefs have the cover guys, now it's time to get that passrusher.

What about Sergio Kindle I wouldn't mind him either but i dunno if he will get out of the first round

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 07:04 PM
lol, I remember when Brady Quinn kept dropping down the draft pile and many people on here thought he would be a steal. What a joke.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 07:04 PM
Weatherspoon would make a nice addition.

Icon
04-22-2010, 07:04 PM
Depends who's still on the board. Clark Hunt promised 3 starters from this draft. Still need an ILB, TE, OL, WR. Hell, we need everything.

Go Pioli!

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 07:05 PM
Stay true to your draft board, Pioli. Don't reach for any players. There's going to be alot of quality players in the 2nd round.


He said okay, and thanks for the reminder.

Wilson8
04-22-2010, 07:20 PM
Eric Berry takes care of the safety need. Big, big improvement and Mike Brown will not be back.

Next most important move is to fix OT position. Yes we have a LT in Albert but if he goes down we are very much in trouble. Ryan O'Callaghan, Barry Richardson, or Ike Ndukwe might play right tackle but left tackle would be a disaster.

In the 2nd round there should be a good OT to primarily be the RT but be able to shift to LT if needed.

Fritz88
04-22-2010, 07:23 PM
mays, tate,

Shox
04-22-2010, 07:39 PM
Most of the guys mentioned here are already gone.

Realistic pick - Golden Tate or the big WR from Georgia Tech. There is not any OT left worth of 2.5 other than Bulaga and I sure hope they don't take him.

I'm hoping for Tate with 2a and then Lee ILB Penn State with 2b

chief4life
04-22-2010, 07:44 PM
Could we possibly get Dez Bryant he is dropping! :eek: Could you imagine!

Shox
04-22-2010, 07:48 PM
Bryant won't make it out of the 1st round.

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 07:51 PM
Cody at 2a, Mays or Tate at 2b

BIG K
04-22-2010, 08:02 PM
I have to wonder if Cody is not there, they will attempt to move Dorsey to NT and ask him to gain weight. I thought I read somewhere that was the original plan in 2009 when they drafted Jackson and McGee to play ends and Dorsey at NT but, was not satisfied with Mcgee's progress, Thus the move of Dorsey to End. Then again, I could just be full of shit.....

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 08:04 PM
Eric Berry takes care of the safety need. Big, big improvement and Mike Brown will not be back.

Next most important move is to fix OT position. Yes we have a LT in Albert but if he goes down we are very much in trouble. Ryan O'Callaghan, Barry Richardson, or Ike Ndukwe might play right tackle but left tackle would be a disaster.

In the 2nd round there should be a good OT to primarily be the RT but be able to shift to LT if needed.

:facepalm:

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Cody at 2a, Mays or Tate at 2b

This would make the best draft start ever!

Warrior5
04-22-2010, 08:23 PM
Some still available:

WR - Tate, Shipley, Price, Cooper

LB - Veldheer, Gibson, Kindle

OG - Ducasse, Johnson, Hudson

OT - Capers, Black

NT - Troup, Odrick

C - Olsen, Tennant

Chiefnj2
04-22-2010, 08:29 PM
6 more picks before KC chooses again and you still have:

1. Clausen.
2. Tate
3. Hughes.
4. Kindle.
5. DRAFTED
6. Griffin
7. Brown.
8. Saffold
9. Benn
10. Cody

CHENZ A!
04-22-2010, 08:30 PM
what's the knock on Benn? I always thought he was pretty damn good WR. I'm really hoping for Mays, but I doubt we'll do it.

Reerun_KC
04-22-2010, 08:32 PM
Cody at 2a, Mays or Tate at 2b

HOLY CRAP!!!

Dammit, I am not liking agreeing with you....

chief4life
04-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Kindle is a monster and i would love to have him drop to us but i think he is going to be off the board soon unfortanately, Hughes is a beast too I wouldn't mind him either!

BIG K
04-22-2010, 08:44 PM
7 more picks before KC chooses again and you still have:

1. Clausen.
2. Tate
3. Hughes.
4. Kindle.
5. Wilson.
6. Griffin
7. Brown.
8. Saffold
9. Benn
10. Cody

That's a pretty nice list.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 08:53 PM
Kindle OLBer
Hughes OLBer
Kyle Wilson CB
Bruce Campbell OT
Jahvid Best HB
T. Cody NT
Clausen QB
T. Mays SS
Charles Brown OT

RedThat
04-22-2010, 08:54 PM
What about Sergio Kindle I wouldn't mind him either but i dunno if he will get out of the first round

It's either him or Hughes I think they should go. Hopefully one of them will be available when they pick and the Chiefs choose either or.

Brock
04-22-2010, 08:55 PM
Take down Hughes.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 08:59 PM
please let Cody be there. we need a NT to run the 3-4. SS + NT and ILB would help the D a ton.

chief4life
04-22-2010, 09:05 PM
Sergio Kindle is still on the board! Are you kidding me he is a stud! Wow if he falls to us omg :eek:

RedThat
04-22-2010, 09:07 PM
Sergio Kindle is still on the board! Are you kidding me he is a stud! Wow if he falls to us omg :eek:

I hope he falls to us and we jump right on it by taking him. Kindle would definately make this defense a heck of a lot faster.

bowener
04-22-2010, 09:09 PM
If Pioli receives my psychic message 2a should be Mays.

I will spooge. I don't care what position he plays, I want a physical freak on the field, especially as a gunner on coverage.

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 09:09 PM
Kindle OLBer
Hughes OLBer
Kyle Wilson CB
Bruce Campbell OT
Jahvid Best HB
T. Cody NT
Clausen QB
T. Mays SS
Charles Brown OT


Are you not watching the draft?

Best is gone, Wilson is gone and Hughes is gone

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 09:10 PM
My sources say we will draft an OT.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:10 PM
Are you not watching the draft?

Best is gone, Wilson is gone and Hughes is gone

DVR, plus the board is slow as crap.

FAX
04-22-2010, 09:14 PM
Nobody's talking about Lee ... the kid from Penn. Anybody know why? What's the knock on him?

FAX

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 09:22 PM
Nobody's talking about Lee ... the kid from Penn. Anybody know why? What's the knock on him?

FAX

No knocks, it's just that there is a ton of talent out there. There were between 50 and 60 kids this year with first round grades, so he'll probably last until the mid second to the early third.

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 09:23 PM
IF Kindle is there, you have to take him.

Bane
04-22-2010, 09:24 PM
If we could get Mays and Kindle in rnd 2,this would be an epic win!

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:24 PM
I really hope we continue to address the defense with the 2a & 2b picks.
Sergio Kindle, Daryl Washington, Terrence Cody, Taylor Mays, Linval Joseph, Cam Thomas.

Two players from that list. Preferably NT...LB.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
I'm taking some more defense, probably all defense.

Guys like Kindle or Griffen, following that with a Cody or Thomas, hopefully getting a Spikes too.

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
If we could get Mays and Kindle in rnd 2,this would be an epic win!

That would be insane.

Hell, I'd take Kindle and Sean Lee or Taylor Mays and Sean Lee.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
IF Kindle is there, you have to take him.

This.

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
My sources confirm we may trade down.

The Mad Crapper
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
Nobody's talking about Lee ... the kid from Penn. Anybody know why? What's the knock on him?

FAX

He's good looking and believes in Jesus.

aturnis
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
No knocks, it's just that there is a ton of talent out there. There were between 50 and 60 kids this year with first round grades, so he'll probably last until the mid second to the early third.

If Mays, or Lee are there at 2b we pretty much have to take them.

HotRoute
04-22-2010, 09:25 PM
we should take the best player

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm taking some more defense, probably all defense.

Guys like Kindle or Griffen, following that with a Cody or Thomas, hopefully getting a Spikes too.

How does Griffen fit the 3-4? Serious question, I don't know much about how he'd do.

RedThat
04-22-2010, 09:26 PM
IF Kindle is there, you have to take him.

yup

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:26 PM
Sergio Kindle and Linval Joseph would be my choices for our next two picks.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:26 PM
I'm taking some more defense, probably all defense.

Guys like Kindle or Griffen, following that with a Cody or Thomas, hopefully getting a Spikes too.

This.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:26 PM
How does Griffen fit the 3-4? Serious question, I don't know much about how he'd do.

When you run a 4.5 you can play standing, Griffen is a freak athlete, he'd just drop 10lbs if a 3-4 team picked him.

BarrySPAMAID
04-22-2010, 09:27 PM
Players to watch:

Linval Joseph or Mount Cody
Marion Rolle
Joique Bell.
Eric Olsen

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:27 PM
Here's where an extra #2 would be nice.

Sergio Kindle, Cam Thomas and Golden Tate/Arrelious Benn?
Insane Round Two.

FAX
04-22-2010, 09:27 PM
That would be insane.

Hell, I'd take Kindle and Sean Lee or Taylor Mays and Sean Lee.

So, you're cool with Lee, Mr. DaneMcCloud? I'm curious why no one seems to be talking about him.

FAX

Bane
04-22-2010, 09:27 PM
That would be insane.

Hell, I'd take Kindle and Sean Lee or Taylor Mays and Sean Lee.

I'm very wishful that we can pull off either or.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Players to watch:

Linval Joseph or Mount Cody
Marion Rolle
Joique Bell.
Eric Olsen Not all those guys are 2nd rounders.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Best of the rest out there for 2nd round

Safety-Taylor Mays, Nate Allen, Chad Jones
ILB- Brandon Spikes, Sean Lee, Daryl Washington
OLB- Sergio Kindle, Ricky Sapp, Navorro Bowman
DT- Terrence Cody, Brian Price
DE- Carlos Dunlap, Everson Griffen, Corey Wootton
OG- Jon Asamoah, Mike Johnson, Vladmir Ducasse
OT- Bruce Campbell, Charles Brown, Jason Fox
WR- Golden Tate
QB - Jimmy Clausen

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Players to watch:

Linval Joseph or Mount Cody
Marion Rolle
Joique Bell.
Eric Olsen

Myron Rolle Joique Bell and Eric Olsen are 5th rounders...

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:28 PM
Any chance Sean Lee will be available in the Third?

FAX
04-22-2010, 09:28 PM
The ESPN guy is right. The phone lines will be humming tonight with this new format.

Should be some trade movement and Pioli is "open for business".

FAX

KevB
04-22-2010, 09:29 PM
Sergio Kindle and Linval Joseph would be my choices for our next two picks.

I'm completely on board with this.

mcaj22
04-22-2010, 09:29 PM
i would pre-ejaculate if Kindle is there when we pick tomorrow

MahiMike
04-22-2010, 09:29 PM
Im really excited about the Berry pick. But now what do you think they're gonna do?

Could they still go defense? Im hoping they go linebacker now. I think it should be linebacker all the way unless Clausen falls to the 2nd round. Id say it have to be a toss up between him or defense.

I've been saying 1st 3 picks are defense. Cody and a LB. But I'd be tickled with Cody and Tate.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:30 PM
Griffen is an OLB in our scheme not a DE.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if we took Charles Brown, he's everything the Chiefs seem to want in OT's.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:30 PM
The ESPN guy is right. The phone lines will be humming tonight with this new format.

Should be some trade movement and Pioli is "open for business".

FAX

I wouldn't mind trading down at all if we could nab another low #2 or even a high #3.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:31 PM
Griffen is an OLB in our scheme not a DE.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if we took Charles Brown, he's everything the Chiefs seem to want in OT's.I wouldn't be surprised if we have Griffen rated higher than Kindle. I think Kindle is more realistic to be there when we pick.

Bane
04-22-2010, 09:31 PM
I wouldn't mind trading down at all if we could nab another low #2 or even a high #3.

Sounds nice but if Mays is there @2a we should pull the trigger and hope Kindle is there @2b.Seriously,can you imagine Mays,Flowers and Berry in the same secondary?:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:33 PM
i would pre-ejaculate if Kindle is there when we pick tomorrow

Well who stands in the way?
St. Louis, Detroit and Tampa Bay...

I can see Tampa Bay taking Everson Griffen.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:33 PM
Best of the rest out there for 2nd round

Safety-Taylor Mays, Nate Allen, Chad Jones
ILB- Brandon Spikes, Sean Lee, Daryl Washington
OLB- Sergio Kindle, Ricky Sapp, Navorro Bowman
DT- Terrence Cody, Brian Price
DE- Carlos Dunlap, Everson Griffen, Corey Wootton
OG- Jon Asamoah, Mike Johnson, Vladmir Ducasse
OT- Bruce Campbell, Charles Brown, Jason Fox
WR- Golden Tate
QB - Jimmy Clausen

Take two of these and call me in the morning!

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 09:33 PM
I wouldn't mind trading down at all if we could nab another low #2 or even a high #3.



My sources say the Chiefs are looking into that.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:33 PM
Griffen is much of a fit if you're looking at a Parcells guy, he's 3 inches taller than Kindle and just carries more weight while being just as fast etc etc.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:34 PM
I'm completely on board with this.

That would give us three potential starters, all with tremendous upside. I think we'll see an excellent draft out the Chiefs. We have alot of quality picks and the draft is deep. If we play our cards right we can land several cornerstones.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:34 PM
Sounds nice but if Mays is there @2a we should pull the trigger and hope Kindle is there @2b.Seriously,can you imagine Mays,Flowers and Berry in the same secondary?:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Honestly... That's tempting, but we have to address that front 7.
NT...LB. There are Safeties who'll be available in the 3rd and 4th Rounds.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:34 PM
Well who stands in the way?
St. Louis, Detroit and Tampa Bay...

I can see Tampa Bay taking Everson Griffen.

I think St Louis and Tampa both take WR's leading to people groaning on here as Tate is probably one of them.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
My sources say the Chiefs are looking into that.

With so much talent available in Round Two it's smart.
I wouldn't drop down too far though. I'd want a shot at Griffen, Kindle and/or Mays.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
Well who stands in the way?
St. Louis, Detroit and Tampa Bay...

I can see Tampa Bay taking Everson Griffen.

Bad ass. None of those teams are 3-4. Griffen is an excellent fit for the 3-4 as an OLBer.

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
Any chance Sean Lee will be available in the Third?



My sources say it is possible.

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
With so much talent available in Round Two it's smart.
I wouldn't drop down too far though. I'd want a shot at Griffen, Kindle and/or Mays.



Agreed.

Bane
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
Honestly... That's tempting, but we have to address that front 7.
NT...LB. There are Safeties who'll be available in the 3rd and 4th Rounds.

I agree.Seriously there is so much talent that I think will be there @ both of our 2nd rnd picks,I'm lost on who I really want.....This is exactly what KC and its fans have waited on,for way too long.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:35 PM
I think we have to go NT and LB in 2nd

RedThat
04-22-2010, 09:37 PM
I think Griffen would be good too.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:38 PM
I think we have to go NT and LB in 2nd

Yep!

There are several options at both spots.
Cam Thomas, Terrence Cody, Linval Joseph...
Daryl Washington, Everson Griffen, Sergio Kindle...

the Talking Can
04-22-2010, 09:38 PM
with these 2 seconds and a high 3rd we should absolutely clean up on talent....olb/nt/wr


and i still hope we burn a 4th or 5th on norwood in spite of his slide



we have the potential to come out of this draft gang busters...

i still want clausen....but i'm not going to freak out if we go say kindle/tate then 2.b joseph/cody.....we'll still need a QB but hey at least we're getting players for once...baby steps i guess


imagine adding Berry/Kindle/Cody or Linval to the defense

Rausch
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
I think St Louis and Tampa both take WR's leading to people groaning on here as Tate is probably one of them.

Don't get all bitchy 'cause you got some fail on you...

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
Griffen highlights...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoJGs-W0iXg&feature=related

mcaj22
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
2a has to be one of those LBers like Kindle or Griffen they will be long gone by our 2b, I think Cam Thomas or Mount Cody have a better chance of falling to our 2b

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
I think St Louis and Tampa both take WR's leading to people groaning on here as Tate is probably one of them.

Golden Tate and Arrelious Benn?

There will still be guys like Gilyard and Damian Williams. Probably in the 3rd.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:41 PM
Eric Berry, Terrence Cody, Brandon Spikes. Close your eyes and imagine how much better that makes our D. Awesome.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 09:41 PM
I hope Romeo wraps his hands around Pioli's neck and forces him to go defense with both of these 2nd Rounders.

luv
04-22-2010, 09:41 PM
Kindle or Tate.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:42 PM
Spikes can be had in the 4th, getting him is not a dream scenario, it's a logical one.

And yes I think Benn and Tate are gonna go here fast, and I actually think Williams is the most ready to play, he'd be a solid 2b pick.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:48 PM
Spikes can be had in the 4th, getting him is not a dream scenario, it's a logical one.

And yes I think Benn and Tate are gonna go here fast, and I actually think Williams is the most ready to play, he'd be a solid 2b pick.

Wow. I would be shocked if he didn't get grabbed in 2. He is a stud like his brother. Do you like Carlos Dunlap? I wasn't that big on him, but I sure thought the Gators D played diff. with him out.
NT and ILB/OLB.

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:49 PM
I wouldn't spend a high second rounder on a slot receiver. We need a starting OLBer or NT, here, IMO.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:49 PM
I read some teams were down on tate a little cause of his size. He would be an awesome pick also.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:50 PM
Wow. I would be shocked if he didn't get grabbed in 2. He is a stud like his brother. Do you like Carlos Dunlap? I wasn't that big on him, but I sure thought the Gators D played diff. with him out.
NT and ILB/OLB.

Dunlap has no position in this defense...and Spikes awful 40 dropped him 4th round is basically his best case.

RedThat
04-22-2010, 09:51 PM
I think there is a good chance Clausen falls to us.

My reason for saying that, Im just simply agreeing with Marriucci's take. The Vikings are a team that is set up in a position to win now. Brett will probably come back and play another year or two and plus they already have a young quarterback in Tavarris Jackson. They're not that far off as far as contending is concerned. They have other positions on the team right now that could be addressed such as OL, possibly DE, or safety.

Ray Edwards want a new contract, are the vikes gonna sign him? or could they draft a guy like Everson Griffen? They need safety help bad. Could their pick be Taylor Mays? Or what about the Interior of the line? Roger Saffold could be a good pick for them. Even though he is listed to play OT, teams could take advantage of his versitility and plug him in as a guard. I think the Vikes have a lot of options to choose from. I wouldn't necessarily lock it down that Clausen is going to be their pick.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:52 PM
I don't think the Chiefs are taking Clausen...

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 09:53 PM
Dunlap has no position in this defense...and Spikes awful 40 dropped him 4th round is basically his best case.

You have this waiting on the other side and Spikes 40 is 4.2

http://cdifferentwithaaron.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/billy-bug-eyes.jpg

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:54 PM
Vikings probably go Carlos Dunlap. He fits the 4-3 and is pretty good value here.

RedThat
04-22-2010, 09:54 PM
I don't think the Chiefs are taking Clausen...

you never know man

the Talking Can
04-22-2010, 09:54 PM
I don't think the Chiefs are taking Clausen...

i don't either...i think they would have moved him by now

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:55 PM
You have this waiting on the other side and Spikes 40 is 4.2

http://cdifferentwithaaron.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/billy-bug-eyes.jpg

No one runs a 4.2, 40, let alone a 260lb LB, Brandon Spikes ran a 5 flat 40 you can go look it up.

raybec 4
04-22-2010, 09:57 PM
You have this waiting on the other side and Spikes 40 is 4.92

http://cdifferentwithaaron.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/billy-bug-eyes.jpg

fixed it for ya

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 09:57 PM
We aren't taking Clausen, IMO. If Griffen is there, he's the logical pick next. He fits the 3-4, has big time potential, gives us a pass rush opposite Hali, and he gets a year to learn from a true professional in Vrabel. The teams ahead of us are picking for a 4-3 defense.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 09:58 PM
Problem is, Griffen is versatile enough to play in both, he's not limited by scheme.

Kindle however doesn't have much of a position in a 4-3.

Rausch
04-22-2010, 10:00 PM
Kindle or Tate.

I can't see Haley passing on a guy like Tate after all the problems we had at WR last year. It was a new guy every week for the QB to try and get comfortable with. On top of that 2nd best WR is slow, old, and on a 1 year contract.

That's got to chap Haley's ass.

And we absolutely must do something to help Cassel.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 10:01 PM
No one runs a 4.2, 40, let alone a 260lb LB, Brandon Spikes ran a 5 flat 40 you can go look it up.

It was a joke because Spikes got in trouble for gauging a RB's eye in a game. The joke was that the big eyes would make him excited and run faster. hee hee.

Mecca
04-22-2010, 10:01 PM
Maybe they think Weis will help him or a defense that doesn't give up points?

Mecca
04-22-2010, 10:02 PM
I'd be ok with using some of our later picks on guys like Spikes and Rolle.

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:02 PM
I can't see Haley passing on a guy like Tate after all the problems we had at WR last year. It was a new guy every week for the QB to try and get comfortable with. On top of that 2nd best WR is slow, old, and on a 1 year contract.

That's got to chap Haley's ass.

And we absolutely must do something to help Cassel.

I'd rather they take Mardy Gilyard in the third. He's also a returner.

2a and 2b will probably be defensive guys, ILB and NT.

luv
04-22-2010, 10:02 PM
I can't see Haley passing on a guy like Tate after all the problems we had at WR last year. It was a new guy every week for the QB to try and get comfortable with. On top of that 2nd best WR is slow, old, and on a 1 year contract.

That's got to chap Haley's ass.

And we absolutely must do something to help Cassel.

WR is definitely a higher priority than HB. :p

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 10:02 PM
Problem is, Griffen is versatile enough to play in both, he's not limited by scheme.

Kindle however doesn't have much of a position in a 4-3.He's a better fit for a 3-4, IMO. Dunlap would be a 4-3 team pick. With both players being on board, I would think a 4-3 team would let scheme dictate who's a better fit for their team, with Dunlap getting the edge.

Chiefnj2
04-22-2010, 10:05 PM
I think Kindle's alcohol problems caused him to slide a bit.

tonyetony
04-22-2010, 10:05 PM
Cody-Gilyard please

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 10:08 PM
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tk13
04-22-2010, 10:09 PM
Yeah, the more I think about Cody the more I like it. I just think that's a great move for a 2nd round pick. He gets flack for being fat but he's an NT... and the guy was nothing but a disruptive force on the field. And Haley will make sure he passes the conditioning test. At least in terms of potential... we could literally pick up two of the most dangerous defensive players in the same draft. I just don't know if he'd make it to 2b. So who knows, lot of great options out there.

FAX
04-22-2010, 10:10 PM
I can't see Haley passing on a guy like Tate after all the problems we had at WR last year. It was a new guy every week for the QB to try and get comfortable with. On top of that 2nd best WR is slow, old, and on a 1 year contract.

That's got to chap Haley's ass.

And we absolutely must do something to help Cassel.

Good points, all.

Our WR problems are troubling as hell. Is Tate the guy to help solve them, though?

FAX

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:11 PM
Good points, all.

Our WR problems are troubling as hell. Is Tate the guy to help solve them, though?

FAX

Not likely.

He's small and most likely a slot receiver.

the Talking Can
04-22-2010, 10:11 PM
nice thing is i think we could literally throw darts with 2a and 2b and come away with quality starters....

griffin is interesting, i know nothing about him and assumed he was a 4-3 de...

KevB
04-22-2010, 10:12 PM
I'd rather they take Mardy Gilyard in the third. He's also a returner.

2a and 2b will probably be defensive guys, ILB and NT.

Don't disagree, but I'd guess Weiss is lobbying hard for some offense. Tough to be the GM with two seasoned vets as your coordinators and they both need significant upgrades to improve their side of the ball.

mcaj22
04-22-2010, 10:12 PM
I can't see Haley passing on a guy like Tate after all the problems we had at WR last year. It was a new guy every week for the QB to try and get comfortable with. On top of that 2nd best WR is slow, old, and on a 1 year contract.

That's got to chap Haley's ass.

And we absolutely must do something to help Cassel.

our 2nd best WR maybe old but I'm pretty sure he's still a lot faster than Bowe...

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 10:13 PM
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DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:14 PM
Don't disagree, but I'd guess Weiss is lobbying hard for some offense. Tough to be the GM with two seasoned vets as your coordinators and they both need significant upgrades to improve their side of the ball.

The defensive talent should be too great to pass up.

They can probably add Gilyard in the third.

I expect Pioli to shore up the middle of the defense with 2a & 2b.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 10:15 PM
brandon spikes has more highlights than any LB on our roster. He would be a starter from day 1. Hope its Cody and Spikes

mcaj22
04-22-2010, 10:16 PM
Brandon Spikes maybe slow as balls but it actually looks like he knows how to play football and understands gaps as a linebacker unlike the god given athletic machine, Kansas City Chief's very own overachiever; Derrick Johnson.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 10:17 PM
we havn't had a proper NT for this D, and we havn't had a really good MLB in a while and I think it would make a world of diff.

KevB
04-22-2010, 10:18 PM
Interesting article on Kindle....

Kindle background (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/sports/ncaafootball/05texas.html)

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 10:18 PM
We can get Sean Lee with our high 3rd rounder most likely. Here's the next three picks I would like to see us make...
OLBer Griffen, NT Linval Joseph, and ILBer Sean Lee

the Talking Can
04-22-2010, 10:18 PM
brandon spikes has more highlights than any LB on our roster. He would be a starter from day 1. Hope its Cody and Spikes

dude, he isn't a 2nd round picks


everyone has seen the canned highlights

Rausch
04-22-2010, 10:19 PM
Not likely.

He's small and most likely a slot receiver.

He's a similar type of player to Marvin Harrison and he can return (which we need.)

We also have no one like him at the position. We have two slower, more physical WR's and squat at TE.

JMO...

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:21 PM
He's a similar type of player to Marvin Harrison and he can return (which we need.)

We also have no one like him at the position. We have two slower, more physical WR's and squat at TE.

JMO...

I get that but I think the Chiefs are better off with Mays, Kindle and Lee with Gilyard in the third than Tate and Lee or Tate and Mays.

It would be awesome to nab the second best ILB in the draft along with a guy like Mays or Joseph (or even Kindle!).

I think Tate's a luxury at this point on a team with too many needs.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. :D

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:22 PM
We can get Sean Lee with our high 3rd rounder most likely. Here's the next three picks I would like to see us make...
OLBer Griffen, NT Linval Joseph, and ILBer Sean Lee

Griffen's production isn't even close to his Combine measurables, and those guys aren't Pioli-type picks.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 10:24 PM
The defensive talent should be too great to pass up.

They can probably add Gilyard in the third.

I expect Pioli to shore up the middle of the defense with 2a & 2b.

WR is alot deeper than NT.
Get your NT in Round Two.
There will be plenty of middle round options.
Eric Decker, Brandon LaFell, Mardy Gilyard, Taylor Price, Jordan Shipley, Andre Roberts, Danario Alexander, Freddie Barnes, etc.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 10:25 PM
We can get Sean Lee with our high 3rd rounder most likely. Here's the next three picks I would like to see us make...
OLBer Griffen, NT Linval Joseph, and ILBer Sean Lee

I'd like to see us draft both OLB and ILB's as well.
If we can do that...We'll have had one hell of a defensive draft and added at least 3 new impact defensive starters.

Rausch
04-22-2010, 10:27 PM
brandon spikes has more highlights than any LB on our roster. He would be a starter from day 1. Hope its Cody and Spikes

If that is the plan I'd really like to trade DJ. We won't because we just resigned him but I think his talent/upside are bigger right now than any payoff down the road.

And I really don't care that Spikes is slow. Hell, Levon Kirkland was like 270 and slow as hell. But he was quick. He was efficient in motion.

The 3-4 is all about tweeners and unconventional talent...

BigChiefFan
04-22-2010, 10:27 PM
Griffen's production isn't even close to his Combine measurables, and those guys aren't Pioli-type picks.

He's a blitzing fool. 23 sacks in 3 years at USC. He's a perfect OLBer in a 3-4 defense. Line him up opposite Hali, draft Linval Joseph next, giving us our true NT and then we're getting places. Griffen projects to be a top talent in the NFL.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 10:28 PM
Hell, it wouldn't be a Chiefs draft if we didn't get a DT the first couple picks

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:30 PM
He's a blitzing fool. 23 sacks in 3 years at USC. He's a perfect OLBer in a 3-4 defense. Line him up opposite Hali, draft Linval Joseph next, giving us our true NT and then we're getting places. Griffen projects to be a top talent in the NFL.

If he projects to be a top talent, he'd have gone in the first.

You're talking about 7 sacks a year at a school like USC - that's a disappointment when you're talking a minimum of 36 games during that span.

I just don't think he's a Pioli type guy. They want to see production in college, not projections.

notorious
04-22-2010, 10:30 PM
Spikes is a fucking sloth.

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 10:31 PM
Spikes is a fucking sloth.

How dare you!

That's an insult to sloths everywhere.

KC kid
04-22-2010, 10:31 PM
Hell, it wouldn't be a Chiefs draft if we didn't get a DT the first couple picks

Come on, you can like Spikes all you want, but why reach 2-3 rounds early for him?

oh and the chiefs need a NT. They have too many DTs

KChiefs1
04-22-2010, 10:32 PM
2nd Round: Sergio Kindle & Taylor Mays
3rd Round: Sean Lee

Rausch
04-22-2010, 10:32 PM
I get that but I think the Chiefs are better off with Mays, Kindle and Lee with Gilyard in the third than Tate and Lee or Tate and Mays.

It would be awesome to nab the second best ILB in the draft along with a guy like Mays or Joseph (or even Kindle!).

I think Tate's a luxury at this point on a team with too many needs.

Of course, I could be completely wrong. :D

I think the only wrong would be coming away from this draft without 3 immediate starters. There is just too much talent out there.

Micjones
04-22-2010, 10:33 PM
2nd Round: Sergio Kindle & Taylor Mays
3rd Round: Sean Lee

Change Mays to Joseph, Thomas or Cody and this is the best Chiefs draft in a long long long long time.

milkman
04-22-2010, 10:37 PM
Watch the rest of the first round.

Just want to point out that I called it when I answered the quetion posed in the OP.