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aturnis
04-22-2010, 10:13 PM
NFL.com has their best available listed as:

1 Clausen, Jimmy QB
2 Kindle, Sergio DE
3 Gronkowski, Rob TE
4 Saffold, Rodger OT
5 Washington, Daryl LB
6 Mays, Taylor FS
7 Brown, Charles OT
8 Lee, Sean LB
9 Griffen, Everson DE
10 Cody, Terrence DT

(Couldn't get Kiper's, think you have to be an insider)

What do you do? Trade up for Clausen or another player? Stay pat and pick who?

AustinChief
04-22-2010, 10:18 PM
NFL.com has their best available listed as:

1 Clausen, Jimmy QB
2 Kindle, Sergio DE
3 Gronkowski, Rob TE
4 Saffold, Rodger OT
5 Washington, Daryl LB
6 Mays, Taylor FS
7 Brown, Charles OT
8 Lee, Sean LB
9 Griffen, Everson DE
10 Cody, Terrence DT

(Couldn't get Kiper's, think you have to be an insider)

What do you do? Trade up for Clausen or another player? Stay pat and pick who?

of the ones listed... my preference is

1(tie) Clausen or Kindle
3 Taylor Mays
4 Daryl Washington
5 Cody
6 Saffold

Braincase
04-22-2010, 10:19 PM
1.Clausen
2. Cody
3.Mays

Deberg_1990
04-22-2010, 10:19 PM
Taylor Mays + Berry would be pretty enticing

KC kid
04-22-2010, 10:19 PM
Kindle, cody, or the best RT. You can't lose picks to get clausen and you cant take clausen unless Weis really endorses him

Hoover
04-22-2010, 10:20 PM
Sit back and enjoy the ride. This is going to be a great draft.

We will get an awesome dude at the top of 2.

aturnis
04-22-2010, 10:21 PM
I really don't think Clausen will make it by both the Vikings and the Redskins. I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the guy we pick at 36.

CHENZ A!
04-22-2010, 10:23 PM
1Cody
2Mays
3Kindle
4Clausen

Wouldn't be upset with any of these four but here is my order. I want DEFENSE!

Smed1065
04-22-2010, 10:24 PM
of the ones listed... my preference is

1(tie) Clausen or Kindle
3 Taylor Mays
4 Daryl Washington
5 Cody
6 Saffold

Good list.

tk13
04-22-2010, 10:24 PM
Definitely tons of great options. I have no doubt Weis will be pushing to take Clausen.

I personally like Cody and think he's great value in the 2nd round. I think he's as much of a "playmaker" as you're gonna get at NT. We need three big things to be a good 3-4... a true NT, a pass rusher, and a safety. We have a legit chance to knock two of those three out.... and that still may be a pass rusher/safety instead of NT/safety.

Mr. Laz
04-22-2010, 10:24 PM
Clausen
Cody
Tate
Kindle

BarrySPAMAID
04-22-2010, 10:25 PM
I'd say take a hard look at Linval Joseph, and Mount Cody. Those are the two best Nose tackles on the board right now I think, and I would be happy with either.

I do however expect to see some movement in the trade department as well, so I guess my point is this,...

I really hope they get a nose tackle.

Fairplay
04-22-2010, 10:27 PM
My sources confirm that this person is on their draft board.

AustinChief
04-22-2010, 10:30 PM
I really don't think Clausen will make it by both the Vikings and the Redskins. I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the guy we pick at 36.

Pretty tough for Skins since their next pick is #103... only team I see taking him is Vikings... or someone has to trade up....

chubychecker
04-22-2010, 10:30 PM
Kindle, cody, or the best RT. You can't lose picks to get clausen and you cant take clausen unless Weis really endorses him

this

Chris Meck
04-22-2010, 10:31 PM
I think it's Kindle. I don't think Cody fits the 'right 53'. I think they're thinking about one other NT's that will be there later in the 2nd or 3rd.

However, if Weis LOVES Clausen, and just couldn't convince them to take him at 5, it'd be hard to tell him no in the 2nd.

Chocolate Hog
04-22-2010, 10:32 PM
I bet the Chiefs go for Bruce Campbell

btlook1
04-22-2010, 10:52 PM
We have to address the OL sometime guys. I'm not saying it needs to be with the 1st 2nd rounder but eventually we need some good young O linemen. That said Clausen would be good.

JD10367
04-22-2010, 10:54 PM
Chiefs are sitting pretty. No matter who they take (Clausen, Mays, Kindle, Tate, etc.,.) it's gonna be a guy who the analysts say, "It's amazing this guy slid into the 2nd round".

aturnis
04-22-2010, 10:56 PM
Pretty tough for Skins since their next pick is #103... only team I see taking him is Vikings... or someone has to trade up....

My bad, forgot.

FAX
04-22-2010, 10:57 PM
I think it's Kindle. I don't think Cody fits the 'right 53'. I think they're thinking about one other NT's that will be there later in the 2nd or 3rd.

However, if Weis LOVES Clausen, and just couldn't convince them to take him at 5, it'd be hard to tell him no in the 2nd.

There's more to the Clausen backstory than meets the eye. The NFL is a tight, little club. Weis or no Weis ... I don't know what it is, but there's a word out on Clausen. That's my theory, anyhow.

FAX

FAX
04-22-2010, 10:58 PM
Is Cody the kid with the giant, dangling titties?

FAX

Mr. Laz
04-22-2010, 10:58 PM
Is Cody the kid with the giant, dangling titties?

FAX
yep ... nose tackle from Alabama

BryanBusby
04-22-2010, 11:00 PM
Pretty tough for Skins since their next pick is #103... only team I see taking him is Vikings... or someone has to trade up....

You act like the Redskins give a shit about their future picks. All it takes is an offer of a 2011 first rounder and they can easily be back in the draft.

ClevelandBronco
04-22-2010, 11:00 PM
I'd love to see the Chiefs take Clausen. We'd be arguing about this draft for a while to come.

Pants
04-22-2010, 11:00 PM
It's not going to be Mays, you guys.

FAX
04-22-2010, 11:00 PM
yep ... nose tackle from Alabama

Hmmm. As much as we need a solid NT, his titties make me nervous.

The first guy whose titties make me nervous, too. When a young man grows titties that extraordinary, you have to wonder about his priorities.

FAX

JD10367
04-22-2010, 11:01 PM
There's more to the Clausen backstory than meets the eye. The NFL is a tight, little club. Weis or no Weis ... I don't know what it is, but there's a word out on Clausen. That's my theory, anyhow.

FAX

NFL Front Office Man #1: "So, have you heard the scoop on Clausen?"

NFL Front Office Man #2: "Yeah, he's supposedly bad news, everyone's avoiding him. Why?"

F.O. Man #1: "Well, he's a narcissistic douchebag."

F.O. Man #2: "So what? Most players are."

F.O. Man #1: "Yeah, but Clausen's also hung with a horse dick. He's so big he can give himself a blowjob like Ron Jeremy."

F.O. Man #2: "Uh, well, that's good for him, I suppose... what's that got to do with anything?"

F.O. Man #1: "Because when you put that together with the narcissism, the experts figure he'll never amount to anything in the pros because they can't get him to stop sucking his own dick."

JD10367
04-22-2010, 11:02 PM
Is Cody the kid with the giant, dangling titties?

FAX

Those'd be awesome if he can swing 'em around and headslap an opposing player with them. :D

KChiefs1
04-22-2010, 11:35 PM
2nd Round: Sergio Kindle & Taylor Mays
3rd Round: Sean Lee

DaneMcCloud
04-22-2010, 11:37 PM
Kindle, Washington, Mays or Lee.

KChiefs1
04-22-2010, 11:38 PM
or

2nd Round: Sergio Kindle & Terrence Cody
3rd Round: Daryl Washington

Rudy lost the toss
04-22-2010, 11:41 PM
me...the day after Clausen declares...


RoR and Mecca enjoying themselves..

Clausen in the Second?



If you can explain to me how a guy likely to go top 10 can be taken in the 2nd, I'd like to know.

**** you Mecca. I only recently found out he declared. he's my favorite QB coming out and didn't know he already projected over the other Big (flop) 4



Don't get pissed when you get called out for saying stupid shit.

:)

Woodrow Call
04-22-2010, 11:42 PM
The defensive talent available right now is just insane. We couldn't be sitting any better right now. We could have a young and talented D overnight.
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KCChiefsFan88
04-22-2010, 11:43 PM
If the Chiefs don't come out of tomorrow with an offensive lineman and WR this draft is a complete waste.

Nothing against Berry personally, but I HATED the pick.

It is very simple... which position historically has had a greater impact left tackle or safety? The Chiefs were in a position to draft a franchise caliber left tackle and passed.

Berry may end up being the next Ronnie Lott but that won't do anything to protect Cassel's blind side.

Nightfyre
04-22-2010, 11:45 PM
If the Chiefs don't come out of tomorrow with an offensive lineman and WR this draft is a complete waste.

Nothing against Berry personally, but I HATED the pick.

It is very simple... which position historically has had a greater impact left tackle or safety? The Chiefs were in a position to draft a franchise caliber left tackle and passed.

Berry may end up being the next Ronnie Lott but that won't do anything to protect Cassel's blind side.

Maybe that's because they ALREADY HAVE A POTENTIAL FRANCHISE LEFT TACKLE. Someone save us from noobs.

ChiefsCountry
04-22-2010, 11:45 PM
One of these 3 would be fine with me: Clausen, Kindle, or Cody. Cody could slip to #50 though.There is alot of 3-4 teams between us is the downside.

ChiefsCountry
04-22-2010, 11:45 PM
If the Chiefs don't come out of tomorrow with an offensive lineman and WR this draft is a complete waste.

Nothing against Berry personally, but I HATED the pick.

It is very simple... which position historically has had a greater impact left tackle or safety? The Chiefs were in a position to draft a franchise caliber left tackle and passed.

Berry may end up being the next Ronnie Lott but that won't do anything to protect Cassel's blind side.

Awesome this means we know it was a badass pick.

ForeverChiefs58
04-22-2010, 11:46 PM
That would be awesomly evil if weiss told teams to stay away from clausen just so we can get him

Nightfyre
04-22-2010, 11:50 PM
Trade 50 + 4.4 + 5.4 for 33.

33) Clausen
36) Kindle
68) Thomas/Joseph/Troup (whomever is available, in that order.)

Woodrow Call
04-22-2010, 11:56 PM
A simple selection of Clausen would right so many wrongs. The Pats aren't shy about taking QBs so it might just happen.
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aturnis
04-23-2010, 12:08 AM
Trade 50 + 4.4 + 5.4 for 33.

33) Clausen
36) Kindle
68) Thomas/Joseph/Troup (whomever is available, in that order.)

Do we really need to give up that much? The picks that were switching hands in the trades thus far were pretty low. Maybe we just give up a 5th or two.

KurtCobain
04-23-2010, 12:10 AM
Clausen. If not then Kindle.

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 12:25 AM
With the first round of the 75th NFL Draft complete, there's still plenty of talent available heading into Day 2. Nine of the 10 players in tier one of my "Hot 100" were taken in the top 32 picks. However, Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen remains the highest-rated player still on the board.

Draft moves to primetime:
Round 1: Thursday, April 22 (7:30 p.m. ET)
Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 23 (6 p.m. ET)
Rounds 4-7: Saturday, April 24 (10 a.m. ET)

Here's a look at the best remaining players available, broken down by original tiers and listed alphabetically in each.

Tier One (1-10)
Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
6-2 5/8, 222
A very accurate passer. He threw only four interceptions in 2009 -- and one of those was a fluke that bounced off a player's back. He can work under center or in the shotgun. Well coached by Charlie Weis.

Tier Two (11-20)
Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
6-2 7/8, 250
Outstanding athlete who was named high school player of the year for both offense (as a running back) and defense, something that had never been done in modern history. He can rush the passer or drop into space. Was outstanding vs. Alabama in the BCS title game.

Tier Three (21-30)
Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
6-5 , 277
Very athletic to go with good quickness. Plays well vs. the run, but needs to mature and learn better pass rush moves.

Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
6-1 1/8, 216
The winningest quarterback in college history. Moves well and has a high release point. He is very accurate and can throw on the move. Had a great pro day.

Rodger Saffold, LT, Indiana
6-4 5/8, 315
Has started four years at left tackle for Indiana, a good pass protector and a big effort player on a mediocre team. Needs to add strength.

Tier Four (31-40)
Charles Brown, OT, USC
6-5 3/8, 303
Has very good athletic ability. Former tight end who has been coached well by Pat Ruel. Needs to add strength. Plays like Duane Brown of the Texans.


Everson Griffen, DE, USC
6-3 5/8, 303
Outstanding pass rusher. Great first-step quickness. Needs to be better versus the run. Has unlimited potential.

Linval Joseph, DT, East Carolina
6-4 , 328
Has really come on as the draft approaches. Has strength, size, speed and power. His best days are ahead.

Taylor Mays, S, USC
6-3 1/8, 230
Four-year starter at USC with great speed and athletic ability. Might be a better linebacker than safety at the pro level. His father, Stafford, played nine years in the NFL.

Brian Price, DT, UCLA
6-1 1/8, 303
Not as tall as you would like, but he makes up for it with quickness and explosiveness. Good athletic ability. Was the Pac-10 player of the year in 2009. Competes hard every play.

Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
5-10 , 199
Former running back is still learning the position. Lined up all over the place for Notre Dame. Has return ability and catlike quickness.

Tier Five (41-50)
Nate Allen, S, South Florida
Outstanding athlete who can also play corner because he has very good man coverage skills.

Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn State
6-0 1/2, 242
Smart player who has very good instincts. Can play in space.

Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
6-3 5/8, 354
Wide-bodied player, most likely a two-down player. Has worked hard to lose weight -- going from 370 at the end of the '09 season to 346. Will be a very good run stopper.

Vlad Ducasse, OT, Massachusetts
6-4 5/8, 332
Moved from Haiti at age 14. Did just average at the Senior Bowl and needs to work on his technique, but he has lots of upside and is a hard worker.

Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
6-6, 264
Lots of upside; good blocker and receiver. Look at tape of 2008 game vs. Oregon and you will become a big fan.

Lamarr Houston, DL, Texas
6-2 3/4, 305
Has showed great improvement. He's a former running back with good quickness and strength. Made a lot of money for himself by staying in school an extra year.

Koa Misi, DE, Utah
6-2 5/8, 251
College defensive end that will be a very good 3-4 linebacker. Has top talent, just lacks linebacker experience.


Daryl Washington, LB, TCU
6-1 3/4, 230
Can play inside or outside. Has speed and is aggressive. Will bulk up to 250 pounds. Lacks good hands.

Tier Six (51-60)
Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois; Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland (down from Tier 1); Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota (up from Tier 7); Sean Lee, OLB, Penn State (down from tier 5); Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa; Eric Norwood, ILB, South Carolina (up from Tier 7); Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida; Al Woods, DL, LSU; Jason Worilds, DL/LB, Virginia Tech.

Tier Seven (61-70)
Zane Beadles, OT, Utah (new to Hot 100); Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech; Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State (up from Tier 9); Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee; Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida (new to Hot 100); Carlton Mitchell, WR, South Florida (new to Hot 100); Jerome Murphy, CB, South Florida (down from Tier 6); Ricky Sapp, LB/DE, Clemson; Ben Tate, RB, Auburn (up from Tier 8); Damian Williams, WR, USC (up from Tier 8)

Tier Eight (71-80)
Alex Carrington, DE, Arkansas State; Chris Cook, CB, Virginia (up from Tier 9); Ed Dickson, TE, Oregon (up from Tier 9); Thaddeus Gibson, DE/OLB, Ohio State (down from Tier 6); A.J. Jefferson, CB, Fresno State (new to Hot 100); Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest; John Jerry, G, Mississippi; Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas (up from Tier 9); Cam Thomas, DL, North Carolina (down from Tier 7); Torell Troup, DL, Central Florida (down from Tier 6); Corey Wooton, DE, Northwestern.

Tier Nine (81-90)
Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois (down from Tier 8); Donald Butler, LB, Washington (new to Hot 100); Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia; Anthony Dixon, RB, Mississippi State; Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford; Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi; Joe McKnight, RB, USC (up from Tier 10); Dennis Pitta, TE, BYU (new to Hot 100); D'Anthony Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech (up from Tier 10); Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale College..

Tier Ten (91-100)
Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama; Rennie Curran, LB, Georgia (new to Hot 100); Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson; Dominique Franks, CB, Oklahoma (down from Tier 7); Chad Jones, S, LSU; Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt (new to Hot 100); Roddrick Muckelroy, ILB, Texas; Corey Peters, DT, Kentucky (new to Hot 100); Walter Thurmond, CB, Oregon; T.J. Ward, S, Oregon (new to Hot 100).

KCDC
04-23-2010, 12:37 AM
Trade 50 + 4.4 + 5.4 for 33.

33) Clausen
36) Kindle
68) Thomas/Joseph/Troup (whomever is available, in that order.)

I support this!

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2010, 12:56 AM
If the Chiefs don't come out of tomorrow with an offensive lineman and WR this draft is a complete waste.

Nothing against Berry personally, but I HATED the pick.

It is very simple... which position historically has had a greater impact left tackle or safety? The Chiefs were in a position to draft a franchise caliber left tackle and passed.

Berry may end up being the next Ronnie Lott but that won't do anything to protect Cassel's blind side.

Your fucking stupidity knows no bounds

Chiefshrink
04-23-2010, 01:02 AM
I think it's Kindle. I don't think Cody fits the 'right 53'. I think they're thinking about one other NT's that will be there later in the 2nd or 3rd.

However, if Weis LOVES Clausen, and just couldn't convince them to take him at 5, it'd be hard to tell him no in the 2nd.

The question really becomes did Weis take the Chiefs O coord pos with "certain requirements" to be met?(ala the draft-i.e. Clausen)

Chiefshrink
04-23-2010, 01:07 AM
Hmmm. As much as we need a solid NT, his titties make me nervous.

The first guy whose titties make me nervous, too. When a young man grows titties that extraordinary, you have to wonder about his priorities.

FAX

Precisely why he is not a Pioli right 53 kind of guy because Cody Cans are bigger than Pioli's and Scott can't deal with that kind of competition:D

BTW I thoroughly agree about the Berry pick and hopefully now some of these anti-Pioli morons will layoff for awhile.

philfree
04-23-2010, 01:10 AM
I could see them drafting a player like Saffold. Which he'd help but it's not sexy. Claussen or Kindle are on my short list. Kindle falling to us could be a perfect fit. Of course so would Tate.


PhilFree:arrow:

Chiefshrink
04-23-2010, 01:12 AM
There's more to the Clausen backstory than meets the eye. The NFL is a tight, little club. Weis or no Weis ... I don't know what it is, but there's a word out on Clausen. That's my theory, anyhow.

FAX

Totally agree and it always has been this way. I mean how the hell did guys like Schaub and Whitehurst jump from no-name back up QB's to making millions of $$ as starters unless their is 'respected talk behind the scenes':shrug:

melbar
04-23-2010, 01:13 AM
I gotta say Kindle as the best 3-4 pass rusher in the draft would be a nice pickup. Tate as a slot guy familiar with the system who also returns kicks would also be a great pickup.

Chiefshrink
04-23-2010, 01:13 AM
I could see them drafting a player like Saffold. Which he'd help but it's not sexy. Claussen or Kindle are on my short list. Kindle falling to us could be a perfect fit. Of course so would Tate.


PhilFree:arrow:

I bet we get Saffold with one of our 2nds.

Chiefshrink
04-23-2010, 01:16 AM
I gotta say Kindle as the best 3-4 pass rusher in the draft would be a nice pickup. Tate as a slot guy familiar with the system who also returns kicks would also be a great pickup.

Anyone of these players in any comb of our next 3picks and I will be happy

Kindle
Mays
Saffold
Joseph
Tate

melbar
04-23-2010, 01:24 AM
I also kinda like Spikes. Fearless thumper in the middle with attitude. I would love Troup later too. Just really like him for some reason. Little raw, but very strong and big.

mikey23545
04-23-2010, 01:26 AM
Give me Kindle and Cody in round 2 and we have reshaped the D for years...

And when the titties are a bouncin' the Chiefs will be trouncin'...

CrazyPhuD
04-23-2010, 02:39 AM
Personally would love to see mays and cody in 2, risky but interesting potential, but I wouldn't be unhappy with kindle or tate along the way.

Coach
04-23-2010, 02:44 AM
If the Chiefs don't come out of tomorrow with an offensive lineman and WR this draft is a complete waste.

Nothing against Berry personally, but I HATED the pick.

It is very simple... which position historically has had a greater impact left tackle or safety? The Chiefs were in a position to draft a franchise caliber left tackle and passed.

Berry may end up being the next Ronnie Lott but that won't do anything to protect Cassel's blind side.

Why should you hate the pick? Historically, 20 years ago, this pick would have been a waste, becuase back then, passing was really not the norm. More of running teams, with setting up to pass.

20 years ago, safety wasn't considered a important position.

Now, it is starting to become a important position, because teams today are fielding 3 WR's or 2 WR's with a very good TE in the middle. That's why safety is important because they are now being asked, not to support the run, but they must also be able to cover.

And as far as Cassel's blind side, we have a LT. Jesus, how many times do we have to tell the true fans, that we have a LT? His name is Brandon Albert, and he will be just fine in the LT spot.

Yeah, he struggled early to mid-season last year, but you should also note that his play was showing positive progress during the end of the season. It's also noted that he had a fantastic rookie year as well.

I'm not one bit concerned about Albert, and I think the guy will deftinaly suprise alot of people this coming season.

Wilson8
04-23-2010, 03:42 AM
The best available player is QB Jimmy Clausen at pick 33 where the Rams sit now. According to the trade value table the 33rd pick is valued at 580 points. Our pick at 36 is 550 points. Our 5B pick would be worth 35 points for a total of 585 points. It could be a seller's market though if enough teams want Clausen, so it could take more than the 5B pick. Also St. Louis needs a DE to replace Little so they may want to use pick 33 on Sergio Kindle (next best available value). I think the Vikings take Clausen if he is still there at 34. Tampa Bay goes with WR Benn or Tate. If KC sits at 36 the best value might be with Saffold.

Looking forward to tomorrow to see how this all unfolds.

ILChief
04-23-2010, 05:19 AM
It's not going to be Mays, you guys.

this. I can't see us spending 2 picks on safeties this high.

Pioli Zombie
04-23-2010, 06:29 AM
Clausen IS great value at 36 so it wouldn't be a bad pick at all if he's available. So how do you like the Tony G trade now? Another pick at 50.

eazyb81
04-23-2010, 06:34 AM
Clausen
Cody
Kindle
Tate

in that order

eazyb81
04-23-2010, 06:44 AM
I should also note that I had a dream last night that we used our 2A pick on some big white NT project from a no-name school, so that is also an option. He looked like one of the guys from the Capital One commercials.

The Bad Guy
04-23-2010, 07:13 AM
I want Clausen with 2a and Cody or Joseph with 2b.

I think they have Troupe earmarked for the 3rd though.

I also think the likely pick is going to be Kindle, but I could definitely see the Rams taking him if they stay put in that spot.

Otter
04-23-2010, 08:11 AM
Who's going to pick Clausen in the 2nd before the Chiefs pick that they would need to trade up?

Nightfyre
04-23-2010, 08:13 AM
Who's going to pick Clausen in the 2nd before the Chiefs pick that they would need to trade up?

Minnesota.

BigRedChief
04-23-2010, 08:17 AM
of the ones listed... my preference is

1(tie) Clausen or Kindle
3 Taylor Mays
4 Daryl Washington
5 Cody
6 Saffold
I'd agree with this list but I'm not sold on Clausen. I know that Weis is completely sold on the kid and Weis knows a helluava lot more about football than me so I will yield to his judgment.

Otter
04-23-2010, 08:28 AM
Minnesota.

Ah, the ol' trade up scenario...

Put me down for Kindle and Cody.