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John_Wayne
04-22-2010, 10:40 PM
Sergio Kindle
Carlos Dunlap
Brandon Spikes
Taylor Mays
Terrence Cody
Cam Thomas
Linval Joseph
Golden Tate
Charles Brown
Everson Griffen
Jimmy Claussen

Not in any order....

Who else?

My pick is Kindle. I hope he's still there. I don't want Claussen.

Bane
04-22-2010, 10:41 PM
I like Kindle and Mays with our 2nd rounders,but I also understand we need a NT as well.

KevB
04-22-2010, 10:42 PM
Throw Arrelious Benn and Daryl Washington into that mix.

HotRoute
04-22-2010, 10:42 PM
we need to address the DT spot:

T. Cody
L.Houston
B.Price
J.Linval

one of these guys would be good with me

Mecca
04-22-2010, 10:44 PM
Brian Price has no position in this defense.

beer bacon
04-22-2010, 10:44 PM
I want to believe that Cody could be our NT, but he just seems like a bust waiting to happen. My dream 2nd rounders would be Kindle and Tate.

Molitoth
04-22-2010, 10:58 PM
My unresearched vote is Golden Tate. I just havea bad feeling about Cody, and Clausen just makes the Cassel signing a giant waste. I (for one) believe Cassel can improve a lot.

KChiefs1
04-22-2010, 11:01 PM
The ones that fit out defense:
Kindle
Cody
Linval

The ones that fit out offense:
Benn
Tate
Saffold

BryanBusby
04-22-2010, 11:01 PM
Calling it now. Charles Brown will be very high on Piolis board.

Mr. Laz
04-22-2010, 11:03 PM
Brian Price has no position in this defense.
bullshit CoMecca ... Price can play NT.

the key is whether he is willing to step-up for that kind of role.

MadMax
04-22-2010, 11:04 PM
Calling it now. Charles Brown will be very high on Piolis board.



Hope Lucy doesn't pull the football at the last second AAAARRRRGGGHHH!! :) Actually I hope they pick someone else but I know nothing at this point.

FAX
04-22-2010, 11:05 PM
Calling it now. Charles Brown will be very high on Piolis board.

We could do worse, I suppose. Just give me a LB that can play solid, dependable, reliable football in the 3/4. If we can land one of those bad boys, we've improved our defense measurably.

FAX

MadMax
04-22-2010, 11:06 PM
My unresearched vote is Golden Tate. I just havea bad feeling about Cody, and Clausen just makes the Cassel signing a giant waste. I (for one) believe Cassel can improve a lot.




Cassel is a waste and this year will leave no doubts. JMHO! You don't not draft a player on a hope and a prayer.

Molitoth
04-22-2010, 11:11 PM
Cassel is a waste and this year will leave no doubts. JMHO! You don't not draft a player on a hope and a prayer.


ugh...

MadMax
04-22-2010, 11:16 PM
ugh...



Hey Chiefee I'll be the very 1st person to post i'm wrong if I need to, how bout you?

black angus
04-22-2010, 11:20 PM
If we draft a quarterback, how about Tony Pike in the 4th or 5th round?
I'd like a linebacker and d-tackle or wideout in round 2.
In round 3 we need to address our o-line,and wideout,tight end or tackle.

Molitoth
04-22-2010, 11:26 PM
Hey Chiefee I'll be the very 1st person to post i'm wrong if I need to, how bout you?

thats fine, I can eat crow if Clausen becomes a superstar. Although I don't believe that just because someone is good on one team, doesn't mean they would've been good on another. For instance, Cassel was great on the New England team in 08, and sucked for the chiefs in 09.

Cassel (with a whole new coach, playbook, experience, and new teammates) could be great in 2010, we will find out.

MadMax
04-22-2010, 11:31 PM
thats fine, I can eat crow if Clausen becomes a superstar. Although I don't believe that just because someone is good on one team, doesn't mean they would've been good on another. For instance, Cassel was great on the New England team in 08, and sucked for the chiefs in 09.

Cassel (with a whole new coach, playbook, experience, and new teammates) could be great in 2010, we will find out.



ok but I'm saying Cassel will suck no matter what coach,playbook,players he has surrounding him :) again JMHO! I could give 2 shits about Clausen even though I believe he would be an upgrade. We shall see :) after 40 years it's kinda hard to give a fuck

GoHuge
04-22-2010, 11:37 PM
Cassel is a waste and this year will leave no doubts. JMHO! You don't not draft a player on a hope and a prayer.After the entire NFL passed on Jimmy as the 2nd best QB in the draft wouldn't him being the real deal be a hope and a prayer? We already have a 2nd round QB that knows our system and sat behind a HOF QB. I'll take my chances with the guy we've got that has shown he's capable with talent around him. Hell he had as many INT's as he did TD's, but with the guys he had to deal with from the merry-go-round line, to the recieverless recieving corp, to the lack of running game the first half of the season, to the new offensive system being installed two weeks before the season, I think he did all right. Wasn't TrInt -6 his first season here? He had a hell of alot more help around him than Matt did this year and he ended up being not too damn bad. We have bigger needs than QB right now. After this year we'll know what we have with him. No reason make a shit sandwich just because your hungry when dude is owed $14,000,000 and had no help. Try the bologna first.

MadMax
04-22-2010, 11:43 PM
After the entire NFL passed on Jimmy as the 2nd best QB in the draft wouldn't him being the real deal be a hope and a prayer? We already have a 2nd round QB that knows our system and sat behind a HOF QB. I'll take my chances with the guy we've got that has shown he's capable with talent around him. Hell he had as many INT's as he did TD's, but with the guys he had to deal with from the merry-go-round line, to the recieverless recieving corp, to the lack of running game the first half of the season, to the new offensive system being installed two weeks before the season, I think he did all right. Wasn't TrInt -6 his first season here? He had a hell of alot more help around him than Matt did this year and he ended up being not too damn bad. We have bigger needs than QB right now. After this year we'll know what we have with him. No reason make a shit sandwich just because your hungry when dude is owed $14,000,000 and had no help. Try the bologna first.



Calm down son, I am glad you are happy with our QB,i'm not. No mater how hard I wish I cannot wish a QB talent he does not posses. Again this is JUST MY OPINION, watch it play out this season then dis me all ya want.

SNR
04-22-2010, 11:45 PM
If not Clausen, at LEAST give us Golden Tate plz

KCwolf
04-22-2010, 11:47 PM
Brian Price has no position in this defense.

Great Post.....How about who does.....on this list?

milkman
04-22-2010, 11:50 PM
Why are yu people wasting time in this stupid fucker's thread?

DumbHillbillies
04-22-2010, 11:53 PM
2A Sergio Kindle
2B Arrelious Benn

DumbHillbillies
04-22-2010, 11:54 PM
Cody screams bust to me also. No thanks.

KChiefs1
04-22-2010, 11:55 PM
2a: Sergio Kindle
2b: Terrence Cody

MadMax
04-22-2010, 11:56 PM
thats fine, I can eat crow if Clausen becomes a superstar. Although I don't believe that just because someone is good on one team, doesn't mean they would've been good on another. For instance, Cassel was great on the New England team in 08, and sucked for the chiefs in 09.

Cassel (with a whole new coach, playbook, experience, and new teammates) could be great in 2010, we will find out.



btw if you call what he did in NE "great" that explains all I need to know.. tyvm...

Chiefspants
04-22-2010, 11:56 PM
Am I the only one hesitant about another star linebacker from the University of Texas?

Micjones
04-22-2010, 11:57 PM
2a: Sergio Kindle
2b: Terrence Cody

JIMP.

FAX
04-23-2010, 12:00 AM
Am I the only one hesitant about another star linebacker from the University of Texas?

Point.

FAX

Micjones
04-23-2010, 12:02 AM
Am I the only one hesitant about another star linebacker from the University of Texas?

Brian Orakpo says yes...

Chiefspants
04-23-2010, 12:09 AM
Brian Orakpo says yes...

Ah, true, I'm just rather alienated from how disappointing DJ has been over the past few seasons.

Wilson8
04-23-2010, 12:18 AM
Higher rated possible picks

Grades from NFL.COM

QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame 8.6 grade

LB Sergio Kindle, Texas 8.3 grade

LB Daryl Washington, TCU 8.1 grade

LB Sean Lee, Penn State 8.1 grade

LB Navarro Bowman, Penn State 7.9 grade

S Taylor Mays, USC 8.1 grade

OT Rodger Saffold, Indiana 8.1 grade

OT Charles Brown, USC 8.1 grade

OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland 7.8 grade

OL Jon Asamoah, Illinois 7.8 grade

OL Vlad Ducasse, Massachusetts, 7.6 grade

DT Terrence Cody, Alabama 8.0 grade

WR Golden Tate, Notre Dame 7.9 grade

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 12:24 AM
With the first round of the 75th NFL Draft complete, there's still plenty of talent available heading into Day 2. Nine of the 10 players in tier one of my "Hot 100" were taken in the top 32 picks. However, Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen remains the highest-rated player still on the board.

Draft moves to primetime:
Round 1: Thursday, April 22 (7:30 p.m. ET)
Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 23 (6 p.m. ET)
Rounds 4-7: Saturday, April 24 (10 a.m. ET)

Here's a look at the best remaining players available, broken down by original tiers and listed alphabetically in each.

Tier One (1-10)
Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
6-2 5/8, 222
A very accurate passer. He threw only four interceptions in 2009 -- and one of those was a fluke that bounced off a player's back. He can work under center or in the shotgun. Well coached by Charlie Weis.

Tier Two (11-20)
Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
6-2 7/8, 250
Outstanding athlete who was named high school player of the year for both offense (as a running back) and defense, something that had never been done in modern history. He can rush the passer or drop into space. Was outstanding vs. Alabama in the BCS title game.

Tier Three (21-30)
Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
6-5 , 277
Very athletic to go with good quickness. Plays well vs. the run, but needs to mature and learn better pass rush moves.

Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
6-1 1/8, 216
The winningest quarterback in college history. Moves well and has a high release point. He is very accurate and can throw on the move. Had a great pro day.

Rodger Saffold, LT, Indiana
6-4 5/8, 315
Has started four years at left tackle for Indiana, a good pass protector and a big effort player on a mediocre team. Needs to add strength.

Tier Four (31-40)
Charles Brown, OT, USC
6-5 3/8, 303
Has very good athletic ability. Former tight end who has been coached well by Pat Ruel. Needs to add strength. Plays like Duane Brown of the Texans.


Everson Griffen, DE, USC
6-3 5/8, 303
Outstanding pass rusher. Great first-step quickness. Needs to be better versus the run. Has unlimited potential.

Linval Joseph, DT, East Carolina
6-4 , 328
Has really come on as the draft approaches. Has strength, size, speed and power. His best days are ahead.

Taylor Mays, S, USC
6-3 1/8, 230
Four-year starter at USC with great speed and athletic ability. Might be a better linebacker than safety at the pro level. His father, Stafford, played nine years in the NFL.

Brian Price, DT, UCLA
6-1 1/8, 303
Not as tall as you would like, but he makes up for it with quickness and explosiveness. Good athletic ability. Was the Pac-10 player of the year in 2009. Competes hard every play.

Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
5-10 , 199
Former running back is still learning the position. Lined up all over the place for Notre Dame. Has return ability and catlike quickness.

Tier Five (41-50)
Nate Allen, S, South Florida
Outstanding athlete who can also play corner because he has very good man coverage skills.

Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn State
6-0 1/2, 242
Smart player who has very good instincts. Can play in space.

Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
6-3 5/8, 354
Wide-bodied player, most likely a two-down player. Has worked hard to lose weight -- going from 370 at the end of the '09 season to 346. Will be a very good run stopper.

Vlad Ducasse, OT, Massachusetts
6-4 5/8, 332
Moved from Haiti at age 14. Did just average at the Senior Bowl and needs to work on his technique, but he has lots of upside and is a hard worker.

Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
6-6, 264
Lots of upside; good blocker and receiver. Look at tape of 2008 game vs. Oregon and you will become a big fan.

Lamarr Houston, DL, Texas
6-2 3/4, 305
Has showed great improvement. He's a former running back with good quickness and strength. Made a lot of money for himself by staying in school an extra year.

Koa Misi, DE, Utah
6-2 5/8, 251
College defensive end that will be a very good 3-4 linebacker. Has top talent, just lacks linebacker experience.


Daryl Washington, LB, TCU
6-1 3/4, 230
Can play inside or outside. Has speed and is aggressive. Will bulk up to 250 pounds. Lacks good hands.

Tier Six (51-60)
Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois; Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland (down from Tier 1); Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota (up from Tier 7); Sean Lee, OLB, Penn State (down from tier 5); Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa; Eric Norwood, ILB, South Carolina (up from Tier 7); Brandon Spikes, LB, Florida; Al Woods, DL, LSU; Jason Worilds, DL/LB, Virginia Tech.

Tier Seven (61-70)
Zane Beadles, OT, Utah (new to Hot 100); Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech; Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State (up from Tier 9); Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee; Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida (new to Hot 100); Carlton Mitchell, WR, South Florida (new to Hot 100); Jerome Murphy, CB, South Florida (down from Tier 6); Ricky Sapp, LB/DE, Clemson; Ben Tate, RB, Auburn (up from Tier 8); Damian Williams, WR, USC (up from Tier 8)

Tier Eight (71-80)
Alex Carrington, DE, Arkansas State; Chris Cook, CB, Virginia (up from Tier 9); Ed Dickson, TE, Oregon (up from Tier 9); Thaddeus Gibson, DE/OLB, Ohio State (down from Tier 6); A.J. Jefferson, CB, Fresno State (new to Hot 100); Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest; John Jerry, G, Mississippi; Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas (up from Tier 9); Cam Thomas, DL, North Carolina (down from Tier 7); Torell Troup, DL, Central Florida (down from Tier 6); Corey Wooton, DE, Northwestern.

Tier Nine (81-90)
Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois (down from Tier 8); Donald Butler, LB, Washington (new to Hot 100); Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia; Anthony Dixon, RB, Mississippi State; Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford; Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi; Joe McKnight, RB, USC (up from Tier 10); Dennis Pitta, TE, BYU (new to Hot 100); D'Anthony Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech (up from Tier 10); Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale College..

Tier Ten (91-100)
Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama; Rennie Curran, LB, Georgia (new to Hot 100); Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson; Dominique Franks, CB, Oklahoma (down from Tier 7); Chad Jones, S, LSU; Myron Lewis, CB, Vanderbilt (new to Hot 100); Roddrick Muckelroy, ILB, Texas; Corey Peters, DT, Kentucky (new to Hot 100); Walter Thurmond, CB, Oregon; T.J. Ward, S, Oregon (new to Hot 100).

KurtCobain
04-23-2010, 12:26 AM
This draft is so deep and badass. Kindle AND Clausen are still there!?!?! Trade up to #33 and flip a coin! Love this draft class!

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 12:52 AM
tomorrow is a huge day for the chiefs, 2 picks in the 2nd and one in the third. make or brake pioli. make or brake

penchief
04-23-2010, 12:54 AM
We could do worse, I suppose. Just give me a LB that can play solid, dependable, reliable football in the 3/4. If we can land one of those bad boys, we've improved our defense measurably.

FAX

Solid, dependable, reliable? Throw in instinctive, good tackler, and defensive leader and that sounds a lot like Sean Lee.

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 01:02 AM
we could really fuck things up tomorrow

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 01:03 AM
or we could do the right thing

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 01:03 AM
and get some real talent

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 01:03 AM
but its a wait and see kinda thing

FAX
04-23-2010, 01:07 AM
Solid, dependable, reliable? Throw in instinctive, good tackler, and defensive leader and that sounds a lot like Sean Lee.

Interesting. I've noticed that people haven't talked about him much, Mr. penchief. Frankly, I know very little about him - having not yet completed my on-line admission form at Draftabulation U.

He seems to represent value in the eyes of come of the league pundits, though. I've been wondering aloud what the knock is against the guy ... I mean, why he's not receiving any more attention than he is.

FAX

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 01:08 AM
or we could do the right thing

I like this choice the best

spanky 52
04-23-2010, 06:03 AM
I'm happier with the start of this draft than I have been with any Chief's draft in years. If I could pick two players in the second round, I'd take OL Saffold and WR Tate.

Saffold has versatility at both the tackle and guard spots, either side, and Tate catches everything thrown his way. If Lilja plays the RG, Saffold can start at the LG position and be Albert's backup, an improvement over Richardson. Tate could play the slot receiver and also contribute as a return man, something much needed by the Chiefs.

And if they go defense, that's okay too but I think they have to give Cassel some help.

ILChief
04-23-2010, 06:07 AM
Tate and Cody

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 07:07 AM
My unresearched vote is Golden Tate. I just havea bad feeling about Cody, and Clausen just makes the Cassel signing a giant waste. I (for one) believe Cassel can improve a lot.

I agree that Cassel can improve.... but if Clausen can be that franchise QB that we are looking for... then draft him. I just think that he can't. His physical tools are just okay, and he has Jeff George's personality. Jeff George never made a difference and his ability was off the charts. Clausen's ability is on the charts..... about 9/10's of the way to the top.... good, but not Favre, Manning, Elway, etc.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 07:14 AM
2a: Kindle
2b: Tate

FAX
04-23-2010, 07:29 AM
Do you guys remember that movie where Clint Eastwood played a cowboy guy who was lynched by some badasses but he didn't die? He just got this real nasty scar on his neck from the rope. Then, after he purchased a bandannadanna to cover the scar so he wouldn't look all disfigured and stuff around the womenfolk, he signed on to become a certified lawman and went after the badasses that hanged ... er ... hunged ... er ... hangered ... er ... strung him up? I think that's what's going to happen with Clausen. I mean, after falling into the 2nd round or worse, he's going to be so pissed off that he'll work and play his butt off for whoever takes him and make every attempt to destroy every team that took a pass on him.

FAX

Hog Farmer
04-23-2010, 07:41 AM
If we got Taylor Mays there would never be another pass thrown on our defense. Ever !

KC Jones
04-23-2010, 07:58 AM
2a: Kindle
2b: Tate

I think we'll be lucky if either of those guys is still there at 2a.

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 08:01 AM
I bet St louis goes Carlos Dunlap. They need DE

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 08:17 AM
Vikes and Bucs both could use QB way worse than Chiefs. Bucs have Josh freaking freeman at QB for crying out loud. Mcoy might be a good fit there for Bucs.
I am hoping they can get rolle in the 3rd or 4th at S, OT like Sam Young in the 5th
the pick should be NT and LB. Although, given how many WR's we had come through here, Tate wouldn't surprise me or upset me one bit.

patteeu
04-23-2010, 08:28 AM
There seem to be a lot of good options left. My personal preference as of now is:

2a) Sergio Kindle
2b) Sean Lee

Dave Lane
04-23-2010, 08:31 AM
I think we'll be lucky if either of those guys is still there at 2a.

Theres a 99% chance one of the 2 will be. What would suck is to see Kindle Clausen and Tate all go before we pick

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 08:33 AM
Kindle has knee injury and will prob drop more

Hound333
04-23-2010, 08:38 AM
I want Kindle 2a, Mays 2b

both may not be there at those picks but I can dream.

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 08:44 AM
Rivals.com reported before the first round of the NFL Draft on Thursday that former Texas linebacker Sergio Kindle might not be picked until later rounds because of a knee injury he sustained at one point this season. Teams see him as a "serious" medical risk because of his knee, which one team said looks like it could require microfracture surgery.

The injury didn't seem to pose any problems during the BCS national championship game, however, where he posted 2.5 sacks.

Microfracture is a surgery to create cartilage in the knee when it becomes a bone-on-bone situation. It's a surgery athletes tend to have near the end of their careers, not the beginning.

Rivals.com said that Kindle's medical exams showed a series of trauma on the knee that could limit his career.

Athletes have played through injuries such as this one, but it is still something NFL teams need to evaluate before drafting someone.

John_Wayne
04-23-2010, 09:28 AM
I'm having second thoughts about Kindel because of his injuries.

Micjones
04-23-2010, 09:30 AM
2a: Terrence Cody, Jimmy Clausen, Everson Griffen or Golden Tate

patteeu
04-23-2010, 09:31 AM
There seem to be a lot of good options left. My personal preference as of now is:

2a) Sergio Kindle
2b) Sean Lee

OK, depending on whether the Kindle injury is a real concern or not, I'm prepared to substitute a different pass rushing OLB type for him like Koa Misi. I'd also be OK with a WR in this round if he can hang on to the ball.

DJ's left nut
04-23-2010, 09:46 AM
My ideal:

2A: QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame

2B: DT Terrance Cody, Alabama

Though I don't want Cody with 2A, if that makes any sense. I'd rather take Campbell, Mays, Washington, Griffen in that order with 2A if we don't take Clausen. I think Cody slides to 2b. If we don't take Cody at 2b, I'd love to see Tate slip.