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petegz28
04-23-2010, 06:39 PM
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Pioli Zombie
04-23-2010, 06:45 PM
Chiefs fans spent all season moaning about the lack of talent the likes of Bobby Wade and Lance Long. They go out and add Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, and Javier Arenas. Weis has a ton to work with now. Charles, Jones, Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, and Arenas. But Chiefs fans are geniuses.

petegz28
04-23-2010, 06:47 PM
Chiefs fans spent all season moaning about the lack of talent the likes of Bobby Wade and Lance Long. They go out and add Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, and Javier Arenas. Weis has a ton to work with now. Charles, Jones, Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, and Arenas. But Chiefs fans are geniuses.

Arenas is a CB.

TRR
04-23-2010, 06:47 PM
Chiefs fans spent all season moaning about the lack of talent the likes of Bobby Wade and Lance Long. They go out and add Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, and Javier Arenas. Weis has a ton to work with now. Charles, Jones, Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, and Arenas. But Chiefs fans are geniuses.

UH.....Arenas is a CB.....
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Delano
04-23-2010, 06:48 PM
The Chargers wideouts LOVE this pick. LMAO

Priest31kc
04-23-2010, 06:51 PM
Chiefs fans spent all season moaning about the lack of talent the likes of Bobby Wade and Lance Long. They go out and add Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, and Javier Arenas. Weis has a ton to work with now. Charles, Jones, Bowe, Chambers, McCluster, and Arenas. But Chiefs fans are geniuses.

And your not a genius. Arenas is a CB.

booger
04-23-2010, 06:54 PM
screw looking for a pass rush OLB we will get bennie sapp v 2.0. Don't mind the pick as he helps on special teams with returns. I just don't like 2 luxury picks in the 2nd rd. McCluster Ok, as a wr and returner i can live with that. The saban cb probably coulda been had in rd 4 or 5. if not i'm sure he woulda lasted until 68 easily. Now we have to hope Cody or Cam Thomas slides to 68 for a NT.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 06:55 PM
The Chargers wideouts LOVE this pick. LMAO

Eddie Royal doesn't.

booger
04-23-2010, 06:56 PM
shit. titties goes to baltimore

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 06:56 PM
screw looking for a pass rush OLB we will get bennie sapp v 2.0. Don't mind the pick as he helps on special teams with returns. I just don't like 2 luxury picks in the 2nd rd. McCluster Ok, as a wr and returner i can live with that. The saban cb probably coulda been had in rd 4 or 5. if not i'm sure he woulda lasted until 68 easily. Now we have to hope Cody or Cam Thomas slides to 68 for a NT.

I doubt the guy that many GM's think could be the next Hester is going to last past the second round.

Rain Man
04-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Oh, hey! I saw Terrence Cody in one of those clips!

tomahawk kid
04-23-2010, 07:01 PM
Are there ANY highlights of this POS covering anyone?

Fuck me.

booger
04-23-2010, 07:12 PM
I doubt the guy that many GM's think could be the next Hester is going to last past the second round.

which site has comparred him to Hester?

Chiefs Pantalones
04-23-2010, 07:24 PM
Why Arenas? Seriously?

Gadzooks
04-23-2010, 07:27 PM
That video was awesome.
Sometimes I saw a giant red pixel out running a white pixel, and other times, I saw a white pixel out running various different colored pixels

BigChiefFan
04-23-2010, 07:34 PM
Should have sent a 2nd rounder for Joshua Cribbs.

DaWolf
04-23-2010, 08:06 PM
Are there ANY highlights of this POS covering anyone?

**** me.

Here...

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booger
04-23-2010, 08:24 PM
wouldn't be suprised to see Leggett shopped for a late rd pick with this addition.

tomahawk kid
04-23-2010, 09:06 PM
Here...

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Sweet.

Out of the 2 highlights of him actually covering a receiver, one should have been a face mask penalty and the other was a pick where he gambled and jumped the route.

Maybe be can learn to do the Mighty Mouse Flex after each PI call like McMillian used to do back in the day.

Midget.

Pioli Zombie
04-26-2010, 10:21 PM
UH.....Arenas is a CB.....
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Arenas is a playmaker ya dumbfuck. That's the point.

RustShack
04-26-2010, 10:37 PM
Arenas is a playmaker ya dumbfuck. That's the point.

Not on offense.

cdcox
04-26-2010, 11:00 PM
wouldn't be suprised to see Leggett shopped for a late rd pick with this addition.

The draft only has 7 rounds.

RustShack
04-26-2010, 11:02 PM
Maybe we can trade him for a conditional pick. If he ever goes to the Pro Bowl or his team wins the Super Bowl we get a seventh round pick.

cdcox
04-26-2010, 11:06 PM
They say that if you are dealing for future picks, you down grade the pick half a round per year. Maybe we could get a 2035 seventh round pick.

OnTheWarpath58
04-26-2010, 11:13 PM
which site has comparred him to Hester?

I've yet to see anyone outside of this place compare him to Hester.

Probably because it's ridiculous to compare a guy who ran a 4.52 to a guy that ran a 4.27.

FAX
04-26-2010, 11:21 PM
Hmmm. It's all touchdowns and celebrations and stuff.

Still, it appears he has great acceleration from a standing stop ... and pretty good vision, too. We could use a decent return game. I hope this guy can do the job.

FAX

RustShack
04-26-2010, 11:23 PM
Hmmm. It's all touchdowns and celebrations and stuff.

Still, it appears he has great acceleration from a standing stop ... and pretty good vision, too. We could use a decent return game. I hope this guy can do the job.

FAX

Either way, I don't think its possible for him to be worse than what we've seen lately from Bobby Wade and Eddie Drummond.

stevieray
04-26-2010, 11:30 PM
Hmmm. It's all touchdowns and celebrations and stuff.

Still, it appears he has great acceleration from a standing stop ... and pretty good vision, too. We could use a decent return game. I hope this guy can do the job.

FAX
...nothing can turn a game around faster than ST's.

stevieray
04-26-2010, 11:32 PM
I've yet to see anyone outside of this place compare him to Hester.

Probably because it's ridiculous to compare a guy who ran a 4.52 to a guy that ran a 4.27.

2/10th's of a second is miniscule at football speed.

KCrockaholic
04-26-2010, 11:34 PM
Arenas plays a lot faster than his 4.52 indicates. With that said, he's no Devin Hester speed-wise, but he has fantastic field vision that allows him to find holes and follow his blockers.

kcchiefsus
04-26-2010, 11:39 PM
I've yet to see anyone outside of this place compare him to Hester.

Probably because it's ridiculous to compare a guy who ran a 4.52 to a guy that ran a 4.27.

Not sure what their 10-yard splits are but I would think that would be more important for a KR/PR than a 40 time. How often does a returner get to run for 40 yards uninterrupted? 40 yard dash helps indicate the ability of a player to pull away and outrun the ST once he breaks through but 10-yard split is probably more indicative of a players quickness and ability to get in and out of cuts, change directions, and make guys miss. Perhaps Hester also beats Arenas in this department, I'm not sure. But I don't think 40 yard time alone is enough reason to squash comparisons.

Just wondering, does anybody know Josh Cribbs' 40 yard time?

RustShack
04-26-2010, 11:42 PM
Just wondering, does anybody know Josh Cribbs' 40 yard time?

It was 4.61 when he was drafted.

FAX
04-26-2010, 11:46 PM
I agree that a 40 time is less important in a returner than his acceleration within the first 5 to 10 yards. That's the key ... plus good technique, as Parcells used to say, you have to start your run back before you catch the ball. Then, last but not least, there's vision.

This tape contains a small sampling of his returns (and only the successful ones, so it's difficult to tell), but I'm hopeful he can increase our average by say ... 10 yards ... that would be huge.

FAX

Blick
04-27-2010, 12:17 AM
He's the same height as Flowers.

He's faster than Cribbs.

I think he'll be a really good return guy and a pretty good nickel back.

Count Alex's Losses
04-27-2010, 12:55 AM
2/10th's of a second is miniscule at football speed.

This is wrong.

2/10ths of a second can make the difference in a play.

CaliforniaChief
04-27-2010, 12:58 AM
This is wrong.

2/10ths of a second can make the difference in a play.

Correct.

However, if Arenas has the kind of instincts everyone talks about, he can be more effective than someone who is 2/10ths of a second faster.

I have no idea what he'll turn out to be, but if he can bring an end to the days of training camp call-ins for returners (Drummond) and an end to watching Maurice Leggett get clowned, then I'm pretty happy with the pick.

Nowadays the multiple receiver looks demand having more than 2 serviceable CB's.

booger
04-27-2010, 01:43 AM
I'm much happier then i initially was with the 2nd round. Suprised my the McCluster pick but when i saw they listed him as a WR and i actually found out more about the guy it made sense.

I didn't watch hardly any college ball last year and didn't read up on prospects like i normally do, just the ht wt speed messurables, combine and prodays and seasonal stats. That's what threw me for a loop with Arenas. I saw the 7 sacks and thought of Benny Sapp as a blitzing Ncb only. I knew he was a returner too just didn't realize he did so well at it. Looks like even though he is the same ht as Flowers he is more compact and like flowers supports the run well too.

Ironically with the talk of the eagles taking him made me think of comparring him size wise to Desean Jackson as far as McCluster. More shifty quick type than a guy who can just flat out fly like Charles can. The ht, wt, and injury concerns were what lead me to the Jackson comparrason.

Just from a KR/PR standpoint and knowing we have a combo of 3 guys in those 2 2nd rders and Charles is pretty intriging.

I don't see it with the hester deal though. More like Allan Rossum who i believe did make a probowl or 2 as a return specialist but didn't really help out as a CB.

It was outside the box thinking and just threw me off. They do sure have specific plans for each player playing key roles which is a good thing.

HotRoute
04-27-2010, 01:50 AM
people underestimate the momentum that the a big kick return can do for a teams confidence, i remember when dante hall could take a game into his own hands with one kickoff, i hope this guy can return a few this season

booger
04-27-2010, 01:53 AM
The draft only has 7 rounds.

I know Leggett has his burn marks that's true. I just think he does still offer the true speed and likes to stick his head in there in the run game. Big play ability with the Cutler pick 6 and the botched fake FG in Oakland going for TD's. Hasn't done well as a inside CB on the slot and better on the outside and still needs refining there. I don't mind at all if they hang onto him because the competition won't hurt whether he steps it up or others at CB do. Plus Romeo has played a smaller guy at FS like Eugene Wilson and Leggett did that last year filling in.

If it comes down to it though i'm sure Gunther would want him because they had trouble last year finding CB's and he sure was proud Leggett was one of his finds after the 08 draft. IMO either DET or Houston where David Gibbs is now would be worth calling to gauge interest if it came to that point with him.

Where as someone like Morgan who Arrowhead Pride said we tried to trade to DET for a 4th last year and they turned it down.........Because while he was a good prospect coming out he hasn't shown it will transfer to the pro game and a guy like Legget has shown some flashes.

JMO though, like i said i like the competition it gives us at CB.

booger
04-27-2010, 02:02 AM
people underestimate the momentum that the a big kick return can do for a teams confidence, i remember when dante hall could take a game into his own hands with one kickoff, i hope this guy can return a few this season

That's going to be nice to get back to having that potential back there. With guys like Savage and Lawrence they broke one for 40-50 and then it was back to 20 or so. So you got charles who will probably return very few, maybe only for a spark or to win a close game twards the end.

Then McCluster who will be involved with the offense too. And Arenas as the NB and covering, not only returning kicks and punts. With that Depth they could afford to carry a young WR prospect with plans of developing him at the position of WR and not as a Slot/Return guy. Unless Lawrence steps it up at WR and or proves he can cover kicks like Copper he is going to have a tough time sticking. I was looking more for a Steve Breaston type WR in the 2nd round range and they took these 2 instead. Maybe they can get a developmental guy with the kid out of UMass. Longshots those guys are but he had some good tape of him on youtube. Smaller level of competition though too.

booger
04-27-2010, 02:05 AM
I've yet to see anyone outside of this place compare him to Hester.

Probably because it's ridiculous to compare a guy who ran a 4.52 to a guy that ran a 4.27.

Yeah and when they move the guy to WR because of his big play ability and speed as well. Just a different type of player.

As long as they don't move Arenas to RB like Marty did with Vanover. On the other hand i hope he gives them reason to move him to offense somewhere that would only mean good things for how he is doing as a returner.:D

Blick
04-27-2010, 02:20 AM
That's going to be nice to get back to having that potential back there. With guys like Savage and Lawrence they broke one for 40-50 and then it was back to 20 or so. So you got charles who will probably return very few, maybe only for a spark or to win a close game twards the end.

Then McCluster who will be involved with the offense too. And Arenas as the NB and covering, not only returning kicks and punts. With that Depth they could afford to carry a young WR prospect with plans of developing him at the position of WR and not as a Slot/Return guy. Unless Lawrence steps it up at WR and or proves he can cover kicks like Copper he is going to have a tough time sticking. I was looking more for a Steve Breaston type WR in the 2nd round range and they took these 2 instead. Maybe they can get a developmental guy with the kid out of UMass. Longshots those guys are but he had some good tape of him on youtube. Smaller level of competition though too.

That kid from UMass looked fucking good on youtube. Good size, good speed, good routes, good hands, made tough catches in traffic, not from the spread, blocked a punt against K-State, and even ran down on kickoff coverage and made tackles. He could take Copper's spot.

booger
04-27-2010, 02:23 AM
That kid from UMass looked ****ing good on youtube. Good size, good speed, good routes, good hands, made tough catches in traffic, not from the spread, blocked a punt against K-State, and even ran down on kickoff coverage and made tackles. He could take Copper's spot.

yep. he's got that size of Breaston/Lawrence that Haley likes too in that 190 lb range. Only a bit taller at 6'2.

Short Leash Hootie
04-27-2010, 03:35 AM
that was funny...

OTWP lays down the 40 time...yet the best returner in the game ran a 4.61 to Arenas' 4.52...

awesome...

These guys really do think 40 times mean a hell of a lot more than they do...

Micjones
04-27-2010, 04:14 AM
Kid's pretty well put together, is hard to arm tackle, has good vision and seems to take good angles.

He'll definitely be a plus in the return game.
And hopefully also on defense.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2010, 09:57 AM
that was funny...

OTWP lays down the 40 time...yet the best returner in the game ran a 4.61 to Arenas' 4.52...

awesome...

These guys really do think 40 times mean a hell of a lot more than they do...

What part of "Compare ARENAS TO HESTER" do you not understand?

I didn't say anything about 40 times being important, or non-important.

I'm simply saying that comparing two people that don't share the same skills - in this case - straight line speed, is retarded.