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petegz28
04-23-2010, 06:51 PM
poll coming...

DBOSHO
04-23-2010, 06:53 PM
1. A
2. z
3. c

Dave Lane
04-23-2010, 06:53 PM
1 - A
2 - D
3 - C+

KCtotheSB
04-23-2010, 06:53 PM
A+, because they're the Chiefs.

wazu
04-23-2010, 06:53 PM
Can't believe they were so bad in the second round that I have to give them a C+. But pissing away two picks with all that talent on the board is inexcusable. Infuriating.

petegz28
04-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Can't believe they were so bad in the second round that I have to give them a C+. But pissing away two picks with all that talent on the board is inexcusable. Infuriating.

I gave them a B- simply because McCluster was a must take at that spot or Philly snags him.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 06:55 PM
Round 1-A
2-B,B
3-A

So, a B+. Hey, not saying I would have done the same things with the picks, but at least I think the guys they got are studs.

Kyle DeLexus
04-23-2010, 06:55 PM
C- because of the 2nd round. We basically have as many holes in the starting lineup as we did to start the day.

Saul Good
04-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Without making a trade, they could have had Berry, Clausen, and Cody in the first 2 rounds alone. D

BigChiefFan
04-23-2010, 06:57 PM
D-

Absolute trash for addressing the defense. Berry's great, the rest are assinine moves for a team devoid of defensive talent.

Huffman83
04-23-2010, 06:58 PM
I like the first and the 3rd. the #2's I'm up in the air about. I could accept the McCluster pick w/ the idea of returns and a slot receiver play maker.

But then when they drafted Arenas.....instead of say...Cody, Golden Tate, Brandon Spikes. I just don't get it.

Reaper16
04-23-2010, 06:58 PM
C-

cdcox
04-23-2010, 06:59 PM
I gave them a B- simply because McCluster was a must take at that spot or Philly snags him.

And the downside of this is?

wazu
04-23-2010, 07:00 PM
For me the picks go: A, F, F, A

The plus is added for the fact that Berry is just that awesome.

Icon
04-23-2010, 07:00 PM
1. A+
2a. C
2b. D
3. B

petegz28
04-23-2010, 07:01 PM
And the downside of this is?

Too clarify, I don't think the McCluster pick was bad. I do think the Arenas pick was bad. That is what drug down the grade. I should have said that better.

cdcox
04-23-2010, 07:03 PM
This isn't a team that can be taking role players in the 2nd round.

the Talking Can
04-23-2010, 07:03 PM
there is no grade appropriate to the 2nd round relative to the picks we had and the value available....so bad no words can describe it


Berry is an A
Assmooga is a A simply because he could be an immediate starter and is not the pathetic disaster of the 2nd round picks...but we still took a guard while having no nt and no lbs or pass rushers on an absolute joke of a defense

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 07:03 PM
Without making a trade, they could have had Berry, Clausen, and Cody in the first 2 rounds alone. D

So, basically, you wanted a stud and two busts?

Mecca
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
Because Philly wanted a guy is not an acceptable reason to take someone.

Count Zarth
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
I gave them a D+ because a blind, retarded squirrel that just fell out of Hamas' AIDS tree could have picked Eric Berry.

Sanka
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
ROUND) SCORE - GRADE

1) 95 - A

2) negative 15 - F minus

3) 87 - B plus

wazu
04-23-2010, 07:06 PM
I gave them a D+ because a blind, retarded squirrel that just fell out of Hamas' AIDS tree could have picked Eric Berry.

That same squirrel could have picked any two of about ten players in the second round and scored an A for the round.

SenselessChiefsFan
04-23-2010, 07:06 PM
Because Philly wanted a guy is not an acceptable reason to take someone.

No, the acceptable reason is that he projects out to be the next Wes Welker. He isn't a reach because Philly was going to take him.

Of course, then again, maybe they just lucked into a QB at some point and they are a bunch of idiots too.

booger
04-23-2010, 07:08 PM
Too clarify, I don't think the McCluster pick was bad. I do think the Arenas pick was bad. That is what drug down the grade. I should have said that better.

pretty much spot on with my thoughts. One or the other IMO but not both of the 2nds with the needs. Mccluster could be a slot and return guy but the downside is his 172 lb frame. Arenas has the return skills as well but won't ever be more than a nickel CB.

I really like the Asumoah pick.

Gonna have to hope Cam Thomas slides to rd 4 to find our NT. ILB Donald Butler would be nice to have too.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-23-2010, 07:08 PM
2 out of 4 picks are starters. In this draft, that's an F. Drafting Berry instead of Okung made me move it up to a D.

the Talking Can
04-23-2010, 07:10 PM
why the fuck are people running around claiming mccluster is the next wes welker?

cdcox
04-23-2010, 07:11 PM
why the **** are people running around claiming mccluster is the next wes welker?

Because Pioli drafted him, silly!

petegz28
04-23-2010, 07:12 PM
why the **** are people running around claiming mccluster is the next wes welker?

You're right. He is faster and has better moves than Welker.

RedThat
04-23-2010, 07:12 PM
Berry-A+

McCluster-B+

Arenas-D

Asamouh-A

Count Zarth
04-23-2010, 07:13 PM
why the fuck are people running around claiming mccluster is the next wes welker?

I did, because honestly, I'm trying to make sense of the pick.

He's not Welker. But he damn well needs to be to justify that pick. :doh!:

the Talking Can
04-23-2010, 07:13 PM
You're right. He is faster and has better moves than Welker.

amazing

petegz28
04-23-2010, 07:14 PM
2 out of 4 picks are starters. In this draft, that's an F. Drafting Berry instead of Okung made me move it up to a D.

I'd say 3 out of 4 if not 4.

Berry starts...
Mccluster is 1st string slot
Arenas will be the punt returner if not kick and punt
Asamoah could win a starting spot if he can beat out Lilja

petegz28
04-23-2010, 07:14 PM
amazing

Isn't it??? :D

Ebolapox
04-23-2010, 07:15 PM
it sickens me that we passed on clausen and cody for the ying-yang twins. FUCK.

BryanBusby
04-23-2010, 07:17 PM
Give it a flat C. Berry of course was total win, McCluster I understand, Williams I don't even ****ing know and Aso is a great pick. Would of liked to have seen some attention along the front 7 of the D, hence why it's a C.

I fully expected them to not take Clausen, so I'm not butthurt like others on CP. I'm glad as hell they didnt take fat tits.

kcfan82
04-23-2010, 07:18 PM
That same squirrel could have picked any two of about ten players in the second round and scored an A for the round.

I could have thrown at a dart board in the 2nd round and had a better draft.

Jethopper
04-23-2010, 07:19 PM
We just drafted a mid second round player in the 3rd. Stop saying that is a C

RedThat
04-23-2010, 07:19 PM
there is no grade appropriate to the 2nd round relative to the picks we had and the value available....so bad no words can describe it


Berry is an A
Assmooga is a A simply because he could be an immediate starter and is not the pathetic disaster of the 2nd round picks...but we still took a guard while having no nt and no lbs or pass rushers on an absolute joke of a defense

Well, look at it this way, overall, so far it's a pretty solid draft. Im with ya on the defense. I think that is the direction they should of gone in the 2nd preferably either NT or LB with both picks.

I still like McCluster though. He is gonna make an impact, and is not that bad of a pick. The team has many question marks and holes as it is, and is not going to address it all in one night anyway. Im still expecting them to be sh*t next year. I think they'll improve but they'll be in position to get another good draft pick next year imo.

Rebuilding process could be long one. We can't always expect them to pick the guys we want. But if they're still getting good value with their picks and making use of them, that is what matters most. I can see that coming out of this draft so far.

Jethopper
04-23-2010, 07:20 PM
According to espn draft tracker.
What he brings: We are surprised Asamoah made it this far down the board. As a run blocker he takes very good angles, shows functional inline power and is an excellent blocker in space. He also shows good awareness in pass protection and should develop quickly into a starter who has a long, productive career.

booger
04-23-2010, 07:21 PM
I did, because honestly, I'm trying to make sense of the pick.

He's not Welker. But he damn well needs to be to justify that pick. :doh!:

He's DeSean Jackson size, a bit smaller. I don't see him having the flat out 40 time speed though. And without a compact frame like sproles or someone similar you have to worry about injury. I don't mind the risk with the pick though. Just taking arenas in the same round with as many needs and quality there irks me.

RedThat
04-23-2010, 07:21 PM
Asamouh is a great pick. No doubt.

ForeverChiefs58
04-23-2010, 07:31 PM
why would ANYONE not take a player in the 2nd that you have rated as top 5, or top 10 or even in the first round!

booger
04-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Ellis Hobbs from Iowa St. and was a cb and KR is probably a good comparrison for arenas. better returner than CB.

AZChief
04-23-2010, 07:47 PM
Berry: A/95% (glad they went w/ playmaker rather than OL at 5)
McCluster: C/75% (v. good player, not a great fit)
Arenas: D-/60% (awful pick given we already took McC and the holes on roster)
Asamoah: A-/90% (great value at needed position)
Moeaki: F/55% (why did God make me a Chiefs' fan?)

Overall: C/75%

ghak99
04-23-2010, 07:57 PM
1. A+
2a. C
2b. Fucking retarded
3. A

ClevelandBronco
04-23-2010, 08:00 PM
I think you just slipped to a B-.

tk13
04-23-2010, 08:01 PM
Hey now! Don't forget the TE! It's an A+ now.

banyon
04-23-2010, 08:02 PM
Without making a trade, they could have had Berry, Clausen, and Cody in the first 2 rounds alone. D

I agree with this assessment, but since they took Berry, I grade them a C. Otherwise, spot on.

FAX
04-23-2010, 08:08 PM
It was the best of drafts, it was the worst of drafts. It was the age of shorties, it was the age of reaches. It was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity.

FAX

DrRyan
04-23-2010, 08:14 PM
1 - A
2 - D-
3 - C-

Eric Berry was a great pick. Love it. Had they gone any other way I would have pulled out my pitch fork.

Round two was about as bad as I could have imagined. How can you possibly draft two guys 5'8" or shorter with all that stud talent there? I would have been happy had they drafted any of: Benn, Tate, Kindle, Griffen, Nate Allen, Troup, Clausen, Joseph, Lee, Cody, Charles Brown, Ducasse, D. Williams or Donald Butler in the second. They could have picked any combo of two of them and I would have been at least appeased.

How they could possibly pass up so much talent in areas of need just blows my mind.

LaChapelle
04-23-2010, 08:14 PM
redo this poll
2 more picks spent

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 08:16 PM
amazing

not watched much film on McCluster? His moves make even the best defenders look completely foolish. Hate the pick if you want, but the guy is a freak.

I'll post it again. This is what he did recently

against SEC teams this year

Arkansas - 260 YDS
Auburn - 203 YDS
Tennessee - 342 YDS
LSU - 164 YDS
Miss St - 145 YDS
Vandy - 176 YDS

and against Big XII teams

Texas Tech - 180 YDS
OK State - 229 YDS

Also the only SEC player in History with 1,000+ yards rushing and 500+ yards receiving in a single season.

You guys are gonna be very pleasantly surprised.

FAX
04-23-2010, 08:19 PM
I don't mind the McCluster pick one bit, to be honest. Find a way to get this guy the ball in space and somebody get a downfield block for the cherry. No problem.

The CB? He's a nickle guy in the NFL ... maybe. Trading up to take an injury prone TE? Those are absolute head scratchers.

FAX

Contrarian
04-23-2010, 08:22 PM
OleMiss you can't tell that to most of these whiney bitches. They would rather have a DB with 5.6 speed, a DL with a microfracture, a NT that looks like a bowl of jello, or a QB that fell so far down the draft his ego wouldn't allow him to be seen on TV.

the Talking Can
04-23-2010, 08:22 PM
not watched much film on McCluster? His moves make even the best defenders look completely foolish. Hate the pick if you want, but the guy is a freak.

I'll post it again. This is what he did recently

against SEC teams this year

Arkansas - 260 YDS
Auburn - 203 YDS
Tennessee - 342 YDS
LSU - 164 YDS
Miss St - 145 YDS
Vandy - 176 YDS

and against Big XII teams

Texas Tech - 180 YDS
OK State - 229 YDS

Also the only SEC player in History with 1,000+ yards rushing and 500+ yards receiving in a single season.

You guys are gonna be very pleasantly surprised.

i live in sec country and watched him regularly

spare me your fanboi enthusiasm

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 08:27 PM
i live in sec country and watched him regularly

spare me your fanboi enthusiasm

I didn't make up the stats....

the Talking Can
04-23-2010, 08:31 PM
I didn't make up the stats....

and i don't give a shit what college homers think

drafting a 90lb hb from a wildcat offense to be (correction...teaching to be from scratch) a slot wr in the NFL with the 36th pick in the strongest draft in memory is not something that makes me jizz in my face


but you will find plenty of fans to indulge you, so please enjoy your time here

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 08:34 PM
hell ya I'm a homer. I love the guy. He took us to back to back Cotton Bowls.

But the stats have no bias. Anyone who obliterates SEC defenses like that is pretty solid, doesn't matter how big he is.

And the VAST majority of his yards didn't come out of the wildcat offense. Most Ole Miss fans aren't big on "the wild rebel" because it rarely did anything when it was used.

melbar
04-24-2010, 12:55 AM
1 A
2 D-
3 B

The great teams constantly pick guys that make you say "Aw man! That totally makes sence and makes them better! Great pick!" This is not the "patriot way". We take lesser players at positions of lesser need instead of Greater players at positions of Grater need. Fail.

melbar
04-24-2010, 12:59 AM
Oh ya 3b.....d.

IR before the first game.

Pushead2
04-24-2010, 02:02 AM
Because Philly wanted a guy is not an acceptable reason to take someone.

couldn't agree more...:cuss:

Messier
04-24-2010, 05:49 AM
Being a starter really doesn't matter. I'll bet McCluster will have more impact on more games than any of the other WRs taken in the 2nd this year. That being said, I'm not a fan of taking the CB or trading up for the TE. Why no LB? We need one so badly.

Rausch
04-24-2010, 05:54 AM
I don't mind the McCluster pick one bit, to be honest. Find a way to get this guy the ball in space and somebody get a downfield block for the cherry. No problem.

The CB? He's a nickle guy in the NFL ... maybe. Trading up to take an injury prone TE? Those are absolute head scratchers.

FAX

Stupid is just a motherfucker to stomach.

Just is...

TEX
04-24-2010, 05:58 AM
there is no grade appropriate to the 2nd round relative to the picks we had and the value available....so bad no words can describe it


Berry is an A
Assmooga is a A simply because he could be an immediate starter and is not the pathetic disaster of the 2nd round picks...but we still took a guard while having no nt and no lbs or pass rushers on an absolute joke of a defense


The guard was the right choice in round 3. The 2nd round picks were not for the reasons you listed. One of the worst front 7's in the NFL and we totally ignore that in round 2. :shake:

1 - A+
2a - D -
2b - F
3a - A
3b - F
__________________

Crush
04-24-2010, 06:03 AM
1 - A+
2a - C
2b - D+
3a - A
3b - F

Rausch
04-24-2010, 06:05 AM
1 - A+
2a - C
2b - D+
3a - A
3b - F

I'd give 2a a D and 2b an F but other than that I'm in complete agreement...

Crush
04-24-2010, 06:36 AM
DISCLAIMER: I voted before we traded up to take Broke Dick Teoki. I wish I could change my vote to a solid D.

KCChiefsMan
04-24-2010, 06:37 AM
2nd round was pretty awful. We got Snoop Minnis and Hank Poteat over real NFL talent.

Rausch
04-24-2010, 06:47 AM
2nd round was pretty awful. We got Snoop Minnis and Hank Poteat over real NFL talent.

LMAO

the Talking Can
04-24-2010, 06:48 AM
2nd round was pretty awful. We got Snoop Minnis and Hank Poteat over real NFL talent.


how dare you make Zach cry