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notorious
04-23-2010, 10:59 PM
The Positive Thread


Let's focus on the good that came out of the draft.



Berry is a flat out stud. Nothing more to say.

McCluster has amazing game speed that will be very fun to watch on Sundays. He will be a threat to score from anywhere on the field.

Arenas is a winner, has excellent open-field tackling skills, and if the ball ends up in his hands he is a threat to take it the distance.

Asamoah is just a nasty lineman that will get the job done. He is the kind of guy that we cuss when he is on another team, but love because he is on our team.


Once again, let's keep it positive. If you want to vent, do it in one of the other 11tybillion threads.

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:01 PM
I'm happy with this draft so far. I would like a 4th round pick, but I like what we've done :)

Count Zarth
04-23-2010, 11:01 PM
Only three more drafts until we have a new GM.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:02 PM
I'm happy with this draft so far. I would like a 4th round pick, but I like what we've done :)

I am too. We addressed some needs with playmaking talent. That is the very definition of a good draft.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:03 PM
Only three more drafts until we have a new GM.

Good Job!


It's hard to say something positive, but it can be done! :)

Mecca
04-23-2010, 11:04 PM
Uhh, ummm uhhh, well Hootie's been gone most of the day so that's positive.

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:05 PM
I am too. We addressed some needs with playmaking talent. That is the very definition of a good draft.

I agree. I'm looking forward to hopefully a couple good picks tomorrow as well.

Do you think we should take Bruce Campbell if we get the chance? I would have no problem using a late round flier on a guy who was supposed to be a 2nd round pick.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-23-2010, 11:09 PM
I'm glad we got Berry. I'm glad we got Asamoah. I hope I'm dead wrong on Arenas. We'll see about McCluster. He looks dynamic.

MoreLemonPledge
04-23-2010, 11:09 PM
Dream scenario is some combination of Eric Norwoord, Cam Thomas and Bruce Campbell. I highly doubt that happens, though, considering we don't have a 4th now.

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2010, 11:09 PM
kill yourself

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:09 PM
I agree. I'm looking forward to hopefully a couple good picks tomorrow as well.

Do you think we should take Bruce Campbell if we get the chance? I would have no problem using a late round flier on a guy who was supposed to be a 2nd round pick.

It wouldn't be a bad pick IMO.



I am not a draft guru, obviously, so I would ask Mecca what he thinks.

His input is about as good as it gets.


Mecca, any POSITIVE input about Campbell? :)

OnTheWarpath58
04-23-2010, 11:10 PM
Berry and Asomoah were excellent picks.

The rest will ensure we have a new GM in a few years.

Mecca
04-23-2010, 11:12 PM
Berry and Asomoah were excellent picks.

The rest will ensure we have a new GM in a few years.

A few?

This is the Chiefs more like a few decades.

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2010, 11:12 PM
im tellin ya, if we can make a trade and get back in the 4th, grab campbell and tennant or olsen and maybe a key of some columbian gold, we're OK.

OnTheWarpath58
04-23-2010, 11:13 PM
A few?

This is the Chiefs more like a few decades.

I'M TRYING TO BE POSITIVE!

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:13 PM
I don't care about Mecca's input. He acts like a baby because we didn't get the exact players he wanted, and aren't the prototype players that his beloved USC brings in every single year. Basically unless you have a receiver that USC would carry your player is crap. Mecca needs to cool it and quit pouting about us drafting a few playmakers. We aren't going to rebuild this team in 1 day.

Mecca
04-23-2010, 11:14 PM
Yea man, it all has to do with USC, you really got it :facepalm:

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:14 PM
I'M TRYING TO BE POSITIVE!

Thanks.

LMAO

BWillie
04-23-2010, 11:14 PM
The only pick I don't like is McCluster. I don't get it. He doesn't really even have a position at the pro-level. I like that he can be our kick returner, but the guy doesn't even have amazing breakaway speed, he's just incredibly shifty, and that is because he's a midget. You can't out juke people at the NFL level like you can in college, unless you are Barry Sanders. Basically, he is Dante Hall w/out breakaway speed. So what.

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2010, 11:14 PM
if we draft griffen mecca will calm down a little

Mecca
04-23-2010, 11:15 PM
Thanks.

LMAO

I enjoy how draft weekend makes me the Villain, just call me Dez Bryant.

KCDC
04-23-2010, 11:15 PM
Dream scenario is some combination of Eric Norwood, Cam Thomas and Bruce Campbell. I highly doubt that happens, though, considering we don't have a 4th now.

This is my list too. Unfortunately we have only two picks, but we should trade next year's 4th rounder to get one of these guys. Norwood we might get in the 5th. Campbell and Thomas go in the 4th I think. Campbell could be a good RT.

Frosty
04-23-2010, 11:16 PM
My team didn't spend a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and swap 4ths for Tebow.

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2010, 11:17 PM
The only pick I don't like is McCluster. I don't get it. He doesn't really even have a position at the pro-level. I like that he can be our kick returner, but the guy doesn't have amazing breakaway speed, he's just incredibly shifty, and that is because he's a midget. You can't out juke people at the NFL level like you can in college, unless you are Barry Sanders. Basically, he is Dante Hall w/out breakaway speed. So what.

what are u talking about 4.6 for a little speed guy is good

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:17 PM
I don't even think Mecca is a real Chiefs fan sometimes. He almost never has a positive thing to say about the team, and if he hates them that much he should be a Bills fan. I see our mistakes, and the dumb decisions we make, but I will also be the first one to cheer for our team when they make a great move or win a game.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:17 PM
I don't care about Mecca's input. He acts like a baby because we didn't get the exact players he wanted, and aren't the prototype players that his beloved USC brings in every single year. Basically unless you have a receiver that USC would carry your player is crap. Mecca needs to cool it and quit pouting about us drafting a few playmakers. We aren't going to rebuild this team in 1 day.

Positive


Mecca is good at evaluation.



I will give you my input.


Bruce Campbell is a physical specimen that looks like he is cut out of stone. Good speed and a lot of potential, but he will take a few years to develop.

I am just replaying what all of the mocks and tv guys say. I have never watched him very closely in games, so I have no direct opinion.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:18 PM
My team didn't spend a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and swap 4ths for Tebow.

ROFL

BWillie
04-23-2010, 11:18 PM
what are u talking about 4.6 for a little speed guy is good

It's not bad. But the guy is like 165 lbs. You would want your punt returner to have more breakway speed than that. He's one of the most agile players in the draft though, I'll give him that. If he can learn how to run a really good slot route then maybe he will be worth a sh*t. I just don't see why you would want to draft him that high in the 2nd round. He's a high situational player, that won't play the majority of snaps. Would you spend a good 2nd rounder on Dante Hall?

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:19 PM
Positive


Mecca is good at evaluation.



I will give you my input.


Bruce Campbell is a physical specimen that looks like he is cut out of stone. Good speed and a lot of potential, but he will take a few years to develop.

I am just replaying what all of the mocks and tv guys say. I have never watched him very closely in games, so I have no direct opinion.

Cool. Any one else have an opinion on Bruce Campbell as our possible RT of the future? I have my own opinions, but I always like to fish for others and compare.

Mecca
04-23-2010, 11:19 PM
Yea that's it, I have all these posts here because I really hate the team.

It's all my fault they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

jAZ
04-23-2010, 11:19 PM
Arenas is a winner, has excellent open-field tackling skills, and if the ball ends up in his hands he is a threat to take it the distance.

Javier Arenas is Gilbert Arenas' cousin. Keep him away from guns and instead set him up with a Blog here on Chiefs Planet. :thumb:

Mr. Arrowhead
04-23-2010, 11:20 PM
I actually do like the all the chiefs pick except the TE

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:20 PM
what are u talking about 4.6 for a little speed guy is good

I have had the pleasure of watching him in quite a few games (I follow Houston Nutt). He has excellent game speed and instincts for finding seams. Accleration and cutting ability are very good, too.

Don't get too buried in 40 times. They are important, but not everything.

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
I strongly believe that this will be a good draft class for the Chiefs. And i also think we can finish the draft strong, the fifth round has seen a lot of trades so teams must know there is still a lot of talent left out there. so i hope we can still get some value out of our last couple picks. remember last year we may have gotten our best player of our draft in the 7th round (succop) so it is still possible to land someone else who can add to this team

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
It's not bad. But the guy is like 165 lbs. You would want your punt returner to have more breakway speed than that. He's one of the most agile players in the draft though, I'll give him that. If he can learn how to run a really good slot route then maybe he will be worth a sh*t. I just don't see why you would want to draft him that high in the 2nd round. He's a high situational player, that won't play the majority of snaps. Would you spend a high 2nd rounder on Dante Hall?

i was just playin, 4.6 sucks. but fuck it, form what i can see in pads he tears shit up.

Molitoth
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
I actually do like the all the chiefs pick except the TE

I like the picks, although I very much hate the trades for a broken TE.

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:21 PM
Darren Sproles doesn't have breakaway, elite speed either. Just saying.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:22 PM
Javier Arenas is Gilbert Arenas' cousin. Keep him away from guns and instead set him up with a Blog here on Chiefs Planet. :thumb:

If any of the posts on CP rubbed off on him, he would murder everyone with an AIDs tree limb dipped in antifreeze.

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 11:23 PM
what are u talking about 4.6 for a little speed guy is good

Jesus H. Christ on a cross. Have you seen the guy? He doesn't run a freaking 4.6. Watch that video of him against Tennessee that is on vimeo.com and tell me if that rascal is running a 4.6 (which is what freaking linebackers run).

RustShack
04-23-2010, 11:23 PM
Berry- Reed
McCluster- Welker
Areans- Flowers
Asamoah- Shields
Moeaki- Gonzalez
Pioli- God
Haley- Billichick
Weis- Weis
Crennel - Crennel
Cassel- Brady
Bowe- Moss
Chambers- Moss
Chiefs- SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

BWillie
04-23-2010, 11:24 PM
I have had the pleasure of watching him in quite a few games (I follow Houston Nutt). He has excellent game speed and instincts for finding seams. Accleration and cutting ability are very good, too.

Don't get too buried in 40 times. They are important, but not everything.

Of course he has good cutting ability. He's like a black leprechaun's height.

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:24 PM
Jesus H. Christ on a cross. Have you seen the guy? He doesn't run a freaking 4.6. Watch that video of him against Tennessee that is on vimeo.com and tell me if that rascal is running a 4.6 (which is what freaking linebackers run).

You will fit nicely here. Just don't forget your jug of anti-freeze.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:24 PM
Jesus H. Christ on a cross. Have you seen the guy? He doesn't run a freaking 4.6. Watch that video of him against Tennessee that is on vimeo.com and tell me if that rascal is running a 4.6 (which is what freaking linebackers run).

In Chieftan's defense he said that McCluster can move in pads.

L.A. Chieffan
04-23-2010, 11:25 PM
Jesus H. Christ on a cross. Have you seen the guy? He doesn't run a freaking 4.6. Watch that video of him against Tennessee that is on vimeo.com and tell me if that rascal is running a 4.6 (which is what freaking linebackers run).

i just make numbers up huh? DO I?

YOU CALLIN ME A LIAR YOU SUMABITCH!/?

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 11:26 PM
i still dont understand why we decided to trade up for the TE, but hey if the Iowa coach said he is the best TE he has coached, including Dallas Clark then i kinda have high hopes for him

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:27 PM
i still dont understand why we decided to trade up for the TE, but hey if the Iowa coach said he is the best TE he has coached, including Dallas Clark then i kinda have high hopes for him

He's good. He's just injury prone to hell. If we wrap him in bubble wrap before every game we might get lucky and he won't get hurt.

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 11:27 PM
someone needs to make a thread for that McCluster v. Tennessee video that we just found on vimeo.com. (can't do it cuz I'm new and can't start threads yet)

It's a terrific look at his strengths and weaknesses, etc. Folks that aren't in these particular threads to see it should be able to get a look at it.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:27 PM
i still dont understand why we decided to trade up for the TE, but hey if the Iowa coach said he is the best TE he has coached, including Dallas Clark then i kinda have high hopes for him

If they can keep him healthy(Big If, I know, POSITIVE), he could turn into the steal of the draft.

Mecca
04-23-2010, 11:27 PM
I don't get the TE thing, maybe if they combine him and O'Connell they can make 1 good TE.

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 11:28 PM
i just make numbers up huh? DO I?

YOU CALLIN ME A LIAR YOU SUMABITCH!/?

lol

well he DID run 4.4's during the pro day. That 4.6 shocked just about everyone because there's just no way that is his max speed considering that I've never seen anyone run him down in all the years I've watched him and the SEC is about as fast as it comes in college football.

Rausch
04-23-2010, 11:30 PM
Berry- Reed
McCluster- Welker
Areans- Flowers
Asamoah- Shields
Moeaki- Gonzalez
Pioli- God
Haley- Billichick
Weis- Weis
Crennel - Crennel
Cassel- Brady
Bowe- Moss
Chambers- Moss
Chiefs- SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

I take it they're still selling K2 there...

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:32 PM
I take it they're still selling K2 there...

I thought it was pretty funny.


I reminded me of the years following the Donks' championships.

Every one of the new players were the second coming of the championship players.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:33 PM
lol

well he DID run 4.4's during the pro day. That 4.6 shocked just about everyone because there's just no way that is his max speed considering that I've never seen anyone run him down in all the years I've watched him and the SEC is about as fast as it comes in college football.

Check your PM.

kcpasco
04-23-2010, 11:34 PM
Gonna get a McCluster jersey just because of all the haters

OleMissCub
04-23-2010, 11:35 PM
How are you liking Houston Nutt? I met Nutt and David Lee multiple times on recruiting trips. Pretty impressive.

Nutt's OK I guess. As good as I could expect I suppose. If Jevan Snead hadn't sucked this past year I think Ole Miss coulda gotten to the BCS.

KCrockaholic
04-23-2010, 11:37 PM
Gonna get a McCluster jersey just because of all the haters

McCluster is a kickass last name. I know it has no relevance....

HotRoute
04-23-2010, 11:37 PM
i think that there is a good chance that we dont take another o-lineman, just a feeling. and i also think it might be a good idea if pioli uses some picks from next year to make a move into this years 4th. couldnt hurt

johnny961
04-23-2010, 11:38 PM
Good thread. I really think we've done okay this draft. I wasn't sure what to think at first about the McCluster pick, but the more I think about it, the more I like it. I don't know a whole helluvalot about this kid, but wasn't somebody saying that he had actually ran mid 4.4 40 times before and that his listed time wasn't his best run?? If so, thats one fast little mofo. I'm liking the idea of an elusive receiver that can turn a short pass into a 20+ yard gain more and more all the time the more I think about it. And that he can return punts and kickoffs is an added plus. We're really not that bad off at all other than maybe that last reach of a pick, and I hope I'm eating crow on that one.

notorious
04-23-2010, 11:42 PM
I am really excited about our O-Line pickups. Lilja and our Rookie should give us a little more to look forward to this year.

Maybe Charles can run a few yards before having to make his first cut.

Miles
04-23-2010, 11:47 PM
Javier Arenas is Gilbert Arenas' cousin. Keep him away from guns and instead set him up with a Blog here on Chiefs Planet. :thumb:

Too bad Javier doesn't play a sport we he can take far too many shots and make people think he is far better than he really is.