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Mr. Flopnuts
05-12-2010, 11:03 PM
They just eclipsed $8 a pack out here in the great state of WA. Cartons are over $70 after tax. How much are they where you live?

Simply Red
05-12-2010, 11:04 PM
four bux.

pr_capone
05-12-2010, 11:06 PM
bout $5.30

ClevelandBronco
05-12-2010, 11:08 PM
At one time I'd have been able to tell you, but I'm pleased to say that I have no idea. I'll bet I couldn't guess within a dollar.

teedubya
05-12-2010, 11:10 PM
$60 an 1/8. Oh, wait. nm

chefsos
05-12-2010, 11:12 PM
Major brands? $5-ish a pack at convenience stores or outlets. They're upwards of seven bucks, though, at Walmart.

I can get Pall Mall for less than four, so there's that.

Buck
05-12-2010, 11:12 PM
About $5.20 for a pack of Camel Lights or $5.60 for Marlboro Lights.

Simply Red
05-12-2010, 11:12 PM
$60 an 1/8. Oh, wait. nm

:clap:

Buck
05-12-2010, 11:13 PM
Have been meaning to ask this. Does quitting smoking help with weight loss?

Haven't smoked in 4 days and I'm craving. Might as well quit I guess.

Priest31kc
05-12-2010, 11:17 PM
I get the cheaper brands for about 3.50 or so, Marlboro has a special on their new flavor brands for about the same price.

ClevelandBronco
05-12-2010, 11:18 PM
Have been meaning to ask this. Does quitting smoking help with weight loss?

Nope. Quite often it's the opposite.

Haven't smoked in 4 days and I'm craving. Might as well quit I guess.

Do it. You'll be able to exercise more easily. That'll help with the weight loss.

Third Eye
05-12-2010, 11:20 PM
Have been meaning to ask this. Does quitting smoking help with weight loss?

Haven't smoked in 4 days and I'm craving. Might as well quit I guess.

Seriously? No. Quite the opposite. Just about guaranteed to gain 10-15 lbs after quitting. You may not realize it, but cigarettes are quite the appetite suppressant.

Priest31kc
05-12-2010, 11:21 PM
Have been meaning to ask this. Does quitting smoking help with weight loss?

Haven't smoked in 4 days and I'm craving. Might as well quit I guess.

Yeah, it usually makes you gain weight. But like Cleveland said, it'll be easier to workout and run if you quit. Im running 3 miles, 5 days a week, and Im still smoking, I know it would be alot easier though and I'd probably be able to run more if I quit.

teedubya
05-12-2010, 11:23 PM
I quit cigarettes after they reached $2 a pack. TWO DOLLARS A PACK?!! That was ridiculous. So, i stopped.

BossChief
05-12-2010, 11:27 PM
$60 an 1/8. Oh, wait. nmsame for good hydro here, reg is cheap though

Have been meaning to ask this. Does quitting smoking help with weight loss?

Haven't smoked in 4 days and I'm craving. Might as well quit I guess.

I quit smoking cigs almost 2 years ago and gained over 15 pounds since then. Shit, make that 20.

Some stuff tastes much better a couple weeks after you quit, or at least it seems that way.

KCwolf
05-12-2010, 11:31 PM
They just eclipsed $8 a pack out here in the great state of WA. Cartons are over $70 after tax. How much are they where you live?

Uhhh....don't even think about a can of chew in WA.....oh my.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-12-2010, 11:35 PM
Uhhh....don't even think about a can of chew in WA.....oh my.

How much are smokes in Portland? I might drive once a month if it's cheap enough to buy cartons.

Reaper16
05-12-2010, 11:38 PM
MO is (reprehensibly, imo) the second cheapest cigarette state. It will become the cheapest cigarette state when South Carolina's new 50 cent per pack tax comes into effect.

QuikSsurfer
05-12-2010, 11:43 PM
$5.50 - parliament

KCwolf
05-12-2010, 11:44 PM
Think we are in the same boat.....the tobacco/liqour tax is outragous in our region. BATshit crazy. Don't smoke... but know its expensive as well

Miles
05-12-2010, 11:51 PM
I think something like $5.50 around here. I only noticed because some dude in front of me at the 7-11 a few days ago asked a hell of a lot of questions to the clerk about how much each one was.

SPchief
05-13-2010, 12:00 AM
How much are smokes in Portland? I might drive once a month if it's cheap enough to buy cartons.

Dude, as a smoker I think this is bad, im gonna quit if cartons go over 40 here, I would never think about driving across state to pay what you're paying now

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 12:04 AM
Dude, as a smoker I think this is bad, im gonna quit if cartons go over 40 here, I would never think about driving across state to pay what you're paying now

I've already got an e-cig ready to roll. I enjoy smoking, but not enough to forsake a trip to Hawaii, or the tropics every year to do it. As soon as I get my health insurance back I'm probably going to get some Chantix. I'm sick of shelling out the money. $400 a month for my wife and I. That's fucking insane. And it's going up another $100 anytime. This is a discount because I'm buying them from the Indians. If I was buying them around my house It'd cost me something like $650.

Consistent1
05-13-2010, 12:08 AM
Hey Reaper. Not all of us think that any beer under $10 a pint is worthless. Not all of us agree on what type of metal is best,and BTW...you have some disturbing takes on some shaky genres of music. Could be wrong,but I think you like Lady Gaga? But not all of us comment on shit that has nothing to do with us personally bro. Your take on cig prices shows arrogance about smoking issues. Well just wait til SumFinaMicroArroganata's hoppy watermelon ale goes up to like five times the price. I think you are alright, but fucking cigarettes are way to high,smoker or non should agree.
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DaneMcCloud
05-13-2010, 12:19 AM
I've already got an e-cig ready to roll. I enjoy smoking, but not enough to forsake a trip to Hawaii, or the tropics every year to do it. As soon as I get my health insurance back I'm probably going to get some Chantix. I'm sick of shelling out the money. $400 a month for my wife and I. That's fucking insane. And it's going up another $100 anytime. This is a discount because I'm buying them from the Indians. If I was buying them around my house It'd cost me something like $650.

Just quit, Dude.

You're spending money on something that's slowly killing you each year. That $4,800 per year could be a one week vacation in Mexico and a one week vacation at Disney Land or Disney World. Hell, if you shop Orbitz and Expedia, you could make to Europe, Tahiti or any number of fun destinations with that type of coin!

I've told you this before but I've never smoked a day in my life. Watching my great grandfather lie in a hospital bed with 100 needles sticking out of his back in an effort to reduce the pain of emphysema while living his last days had quite an effect on me.

My grandmother's sister on my father's side died at age 50 of lung disease and emphysema.

If you're going to slowly kill yourself, do it with alcohol. It's much more fun! :)

Be well.

Reaper16
05-13-2010, 12:25 AM
Hey Reaper. Not all of us think that any beer under $10 a pint is worthless. Not all of us agree on what type of metal is best,and BTW...you have some disturbing takes on some shaky genres of music. Could be wrong,but I think you like Lady Gaga? But not all of us comment on shit that has nothing to do with us personally bro. Your take on cig prices shows arrogance about smoking issues. Well just wait til SumFinaMicroArroganata's hoppy watermelon ale goes up to like five times the price. I think you are alright, but fucking cigarettes are way to high,smoker or non should agree.
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I don't think you are alright. Because your argument to me is banal. You would gain more purchase with me by just appealing to fairness or something rather than falling on your face trying to insult me.

I don't really give a shit about cigarette prices but if I had to choose I'd prefer them to be high. The only point I can make in favor of lower prices is that perhaps the high prices affect mostly the poor cigarette addicts.

BossChief
05-13-2010, 12:34 AM
Honestly, you might think its really tough to quit...but after the first two weeks are past you are in the clear for the most part.

Only times I even think about having one is after getting drunk and eating some tacobell or pizza or something with a bloated stomach.

Buy a 2 week nicoderm patches set for 40 and you will probably never have another cig.

$$$cha CHING$$$$

BossChief
05-13-2010, 12:37 AM
They should take the fucking tax money and make all the types of quit smoking helpers (patches, gum, pills, whatever) and make them available for no charge if they really want to fix the problem.

PornChief
05-13-2010, 12:50 AM
would you believe 15.50 a pack is about the average here? not that I buy em.

veist
05-13-2010, 01:44 AM
Its about $10/pack in Chicago last I heard people complaining about it.

splatbass
05-13-2010, 01:49 AM
$8.50 a pack.

kstater
05-13-2010, 03:51 AM
No idea. Smoke free for over a year. :rockon:

JohninGpt
05-13-2010, 06:04 AM
No idea. Smoke free for over a year. :rockon:

Yup, I quit cold turkey when that new tax hit last year.

PhillyChiefFan
05-13-2010, 06:13 AM
6.20/pack.

Nzoner
05-13-2010, 06:20 AM
I switched to an off brand called Cheyenne Ultra Light 100's,no difference in them and Marlboro except I pay $22 a carton.

Bane
05-13-2010, 06:37 AM
Sorry don't smoke so I have no idea.I remember my dad throwing a fit when they went from 1.00 a pack to 1.05 though!
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Baconeater
05-13-2010, 06:43 AM
Honestly, you might think its really tough to quit...but after the first two weeks are past you are in the clear for the most part.

Could not disagree with that more.

Hydrae
05-13-2010, 06:55 AM
I am paying right at $50 a carton here in Texas for Camel's. Thank God I only smoke a half pack a day!

KC2004
05-13-2010, 06:59 AM
Marlboro Special Blend 100's $2.74.

tymania
05-13-2010, 07:09 AM
$60 an 1/8. Oh, wait. nm

ROFL niiice

Spicy McHaggis
05-13-2010, 07:09 AM
$7

God help them if they raise the liquor/beer tax up here though.

tymania
05-13-2010, 07:10 AM
Marlboro Special Blend 100's $2.74.

2.74 for marlboro???

Lzen
05-13-2010, 07:18 AM
Good friend was in from AZ last weekend. We stopped at a Kwik Shop so that he could pick up smokes. I asked him how much he paid and he said it was about $5(4.90 something). This was for Marlboros. That is crazy. I had no idea they had gotten that high.

Lzen
05-13-2010, 07:19 AM
Honestly, you might think its really tough to quit...but after the first 6 months are past you are in the clear for the most part....

FYP

healthpellets
05-13-2010, 07:20 AM
3.01 for Camel Light 99s at a store a couple blocks from my house.

Frazod
05-13-2010, 08:03 AM
FYP

Not even. One of my best friends started up again after being quit for two years.

Of course, he received ZERO support from his wife, who continued to smoke the whole time. I doubt if I would have been successful had my wife not stopped smoking as well.

Sofa King
05-13-2010, 08:07 AM
Free.... i prefer my smoking to be second hand at the bars...


But seriously, a question i've always wondered... other than "looking cool" ( is that a real reason anymore?) why did you guys START to smoke in the first place...

When, why, and how long....

MOhillbilly
05-13-2010, 08:09 AM
3.75 for camels.

Saulbadguy
05-13-2010, 08:15 AM
Kansas is raising Cigarette taxes this year, and we are banning smoking in public places across the state. Huzzah!

Lumpy
05-13-2010, 08:29 AM
Free.... i prefer my smoking to be second hand at the bars...


But seriously, a question i've always wondered... other than "looking cool" ( is that a real reason anymore?) why did you guys START to smoke in the first place...

When, why, and how long....

I was 15 when I started smoking. I was going through a lot of BS at school so I started snagging them from my mom. I didn't start smoking to "look cool", it was more of a need for something to calm me down... and it worked. But, before I knew it, I was hooked. Been smoking ever since.

I have tried many times to quit, but it's tough. My stress level is pretty high right now b/c I'm trying to balance work and home. But, when the time is right, I will try to quit again. I just need some motivation and a week or two of little to no stress, (but chances of that happening anytime soon is pretty slim).

Oh and Marlboros are around $5 here in Nebraska.

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 08:46 AM
I was 15 when I started smoking. I was going through a lot of BS at school so I started snagging them from my mom. I didn't start smoking to "look cool", it was more of a need for something to calm me down... and it worked. But, before I knew it, I was hooked. Been smoking ever since.

I have tried many times to quit, but it's tough. My stress level is pretty high right now b/c I'm trying to balance work and home. But, when the time is right, I will try to quit again. I just need some motivation and a week or two of little to no stress, (but chances of that happening anytime soon is pretty slim).

Oh and Marlboros are around $5 here in Nebraska.
If you didn't live in friggin' Bellevue I could tell you where you can find them cheaper. I rarely pay more than $4/pack for them.

Oh, and I started when I was a teenager because I'm a goddamn idiot, and nothing much has changed since then.

Frazod
05-13-2010, 08:48 AM
If I was still a pack-a-day smoker, I'd be looking for a way to get them on the black market. The taxes on tobacco are pure thievery.

Tom_A_Hawk
05-13-2010, 08:52 AM
close to $5.00 a pack.

good thing is that a pack lasts 5 days. I smoke 4 cigs a day.

7:00 a.m. with coffee

11:00 a.m just cause

1:00 p.m. after lunch

4:00 p.m. just cause

I am good till next day......pretty silly actually...you would think a guy would quit

Lumpy
05-13-2010, 08:54 AM
If you didn't live in friggin' Bellevue I could tell you where you can find them cheaper. I rarely pay more than $4/pack for them.

Oh, and I started when I was a teenager because I'm a goddamn idiot, and nothing much has changed since then.

I try to buy mine from QT, (in Bellevue or Omaha). They have 3 pack specials for around $10 or so. But they usually average around $5 when there isn't a special.

MOhillbilly
05-13-2010, 08:54 AM
my dad was a 3-pack a day man (salems). when he was about 40 he told he was gonna quit smoking cigs. I was elated, for years id been on his ass about it.
So what does the slick SOB do? Starts smoking 3-4 packs of swisher sweet & white owl cigars.

(rolls eyes)

Pestilence
05-13-2010, 09:06 AM
I've already got an e-cig ready to roll. I enjoy smoking, but not enough to forsake a trip to Hawaii, or the tropics every year to do it. As soon as I get my health insurance back I'm probably going to get some Chantix. I'm sick of shelling out the money. $400 a month for my wife and I. That's fucking insane. And it's going up another $100 anytime. This is a discount because I'm buying them from the Indians. If I was buying them around my house It'd cost me something like $650.

Just quit now man. I quit back in 2004 and it's honestly one of the best things I've done. I used to smoke a pack a day....and if I went out to the bars....it was more than a pack a day. I quit for free because I was in the Air Force and they paid for the patches and medication.

Just think about this.....if you're running 4 miles now....imagine what you can run after you've stopped smoking.

SLAG
05-13-2010, 09:09 AM
close to $5.00 a pack.

good thing is that a pack lasts 5 days. I smoke 4 cigs a day.

7:00 a.m. with coffee

11:00 a.m just cause

1:00 p.m. after lunch

4:00 p.m. just cause

I am good till next day......pretty silly actually...you would think a guy would quit

Actually

IMHO you would be the perfect smoker - someone not overly addicted and can keep it under control

Enjoy those Cigarettes man - Do you have one after sex?

King_Chief_Fan
05-13-2010, 09:20 AM
Actually

IMHO you would be the perfect smoker - someone not overly addicted and can keep it under control

Enjoy those Cigarettes man - Do you have one after sex?

No, no smoking in the house and I don't want to take my naked self outside to smoke!!!! It will have to wait until next day

Ebolapox
05-13-2010, 09:37 AM
don't know. that's fucking ridiculous though. glad I don't smoke.

Radar Chief
05-13-2010, 09:40 AM
$5.02 in SEK.
Didn't know, had to ask, double glad I quit years ago.

ArrowheadHawk
05-13-2010, 09:45 AM
They cost your life. Way overpriced. Best thing I ever did was quit.

ArrowheadHawk
05-13-2010, 09:47 AM
How much are smokes in Portland? I might drive once a month if it's cheap enough to buy cartons.You are trying to be healthy yet you are smoking? Something aint right.

KCKID58
05-13-2010, 09:50 AM
3.99 a pack of Marlboro's here. A friend of mine who works for Phillip Morris would get like 4 cartons every 2 weeks with his paycheck. We'd go out to dinner with them and he'd give me 6-10 cartons. That was back in the day when I smoked. 3 years nicotine free now.....

Ebolapox
05-13-2010, 09:50 AM
You are trying to be healthy yet you are smoking? Something aint right.

it's an addiction, man. I'm glad I don't have it--I've lost several relatives to lung cancer. it's sad watching them struggle to breathe yet carring a cig in their hand that's already lit.

Frazod
05-13-2010, 09:53 AM
Quitting smoking ain't exactly conducive to weight loss. Just keep that in mind.

ArrowheadHawk
05-13-2010, 09:53 AM
it's an addiction, man. I'm glad I don't have it--I've lost several relatives to lung cancer. it's sad watching them struggle to breathe yet carring a cig in their hand that's already lit.I know it is an addiction. I smoked for 10 years. Haven't had a cigarette in 4 years. I know how hard it is to quit and I know it is possible. Especially for a guy that can motivate himself to workout as hard as he has and lose as much weight as he has.

ArrowheadHawk
05-13-2010, 09:54 AM
Quitting smoking ain't exactly conducive to weight loss. Just keep that in mind.It is if you keep the same diet.

Frazod
05-13-2010, 10:01 AM
It is if you keep the same diet.

Well, for those of us who aren't fucking cyborgs, it is difficult to quit smoking and lose weight at the same time. He shouldn't overdo it in the life-changing department.

Ebolapox
05-13-2010, 10:02 AM
...Watching my great grandfather lie in a hospital bed with 100 needles sticking out of his back in an effort to reduce the pain of emphysema while living his last days had quite an effect on me.
...

watching my gramps die of lung cancer (not being able to breathe at all the last few weeks) had the same effect on me. doesn't hurt that it happened when I was fifteen and impressionable, though. he hadn't even smoked for the ten years before being diagnosed with cancer.

Ebolapox
05-13-2010, 10:02 AM
I know it is an addiction. I smoked for 10 years. Haven't had a cigarette in 4 years. I know how hard it is to quit and I know it is possible. Especially for a guy that can motivate himself to workout as hard as he has and lose as much weight as he has.

true enough.

ClevelandBronco
05-13-2010, 10:08 AM
They should take the ****ing tax money and make all the types of quit smoking helpers (patches, gum, pills, whatever) and make them available for no charge if they really want to fix the problem.

They don't want to fix the problem. They want to tax the problem.

Ebolapox
05-13-2010, 10:11 AM
exactly. it's too big a cash cow to kill (the medical field around the illnesses tobacco causes)

LetsSignRussell
05-13-2010, 10:16 AM
he's taking it 1 step at a time BE PATIENT

BWillie
05-13-2010, 10:24 AM
I don't understand how people get addicted to things that are not only detrimental to your health but expensive. I thought I was addicted to cigarettes in college because I used to just bum them from my friends at the bars and wherever I went. I went home for the summer, and I was driving somewhere and was like , damn. I really need a cigarette. HOLY SHIT I AM ADDICTED TO CIGS!!! OH NOES!!....So I go to the closest gas station, ask for a pack and they go, that'll be six bucks. WTF? I quit right away.

kindra68
05-13-2010, 10:29 AM
Free.... i prefer my smoking to be second hand at the bars...


But seriously, a question i've always wondered... other than "looking cool" ( is that a real reason anymore?) why did you guys START to smoke in the first place...

When, why, and how long....

The cool kids would sneak off campus and go to the little convenience store on the corner. They would get all their sodas and snack stuff and hit the woods to smoke.
The guy I was crushin on was one of those kids, so I followed suit. (smoked in the woods before school) he started fooling around with Amanda the slut so I broke up with him and fucked his brother. Didn’t pick up another cigarette till…
Fast forward to High School new boy walked into Physical Science. I did a double take, nice ass. Ended up getting married and life turned to suckage. He smoked so, why not.
Fast forward a few years later got rid of him, cigarettes and butter.
Fast forward a few years later still..
I started waitressing.
I know it’s crappy for the non-smokers cause if you smoke you can “take 5 for a smoke” and others would watch your tables for ya.
Non-smokers can’t “take 5 for the hell of it”
I quit the restaurant and bar scene 8 years ago so now..
I now only smoke when I drink. No smoking in the house or in the car. I don’t smoke after I have supper. I don’t smoke after sex. But you can bet your grannies panties if I walk into a bar I’m gonna order a beer, take a swig and then fire up a cigarette.
So I guess what it boils down to is “boys made me do it first, then I did it for myself”
And with that, I’m back to my corner.

Frazod
05-13-2010, 10:39 AM
I don't understand how people get addicted to things that are not only detrimental to your health but expensive. I thought I was addicted to cigarettes in college because I used to just bum them from my friends at the bars and wherever I went. I went home for the summer, and I was driving somewhere and was like , damn. I really need a cigarette. HOLY SHIT I AM ADDICTED TO CIGS!!! OH NOES!!....So I go to the closest gas station, ask for a pack and they go, that'll be six bucks. WTF? I quit right away.

From the middle-aged perspective, they were dramatically cheaper when we first got hooked. When I was in the Navy, if my ship was out to sea I could buy a carton of Marlboros for $4.00. Money's not an issue when they're 40 cents a pack. Now they're 40 cents a piece. Fuck.

Saulbadguy
05-13-2010, 11:14 AM
They don't want to fix the problem. They want to tax the problem.

Even if you eliminated the tax on tobacco products, cigarettes would still be pretty expensive. The tobacco companies are passing on the costs of legal fees and settlements after years of being a completely unethical merchant of death to the consumers.

Lzen
05-13-2010, 11:18 AM
Not even. One of my best friends started up again after being quit for two years.

Of course, he received ZERO support from his wife, who continued to smoke the whole time. I doubt if I would have been successful had my wife not stopped smoking as well.

I was just speaking from personal experience. Of course, that was about 18 years ago.

Epic Fail 007
05-13-2010, 11:25 AM
its best not to smoke ,its not cool,so badd for you,stinks/just not a good idea

Epic Fail 007
05-13-2010, 11:31 AM
just quit my uncle died from throat cancer from smoking at the age of 51,smoking might be fun for some but not worth ur life

Lzen
05-13-2010, 11:36 AM
I haven't smoked a cigarette in 18 years. But I do smoke an occasional cigar. I know they're bad for me, too. But at least I don't smoke several of those a day.

BIG_DADDY
05-13-2010, 11:38 AM
Flop,

I thought you weere into the health thing now?

BIG_DADDY
05-13-2010, 11:39 AM
I haven't smoked a cigarette in 18 years. But I do smoke an occasional cigar. I know they're bad for me, too. But at least I don't smoke several of those a day.

I like an occasional cigar as well.

Lzen
05-13-2010, 11:47 AM
The guy I was crushin on was one of those kids, so I followed suit. (smoked in the woods before school) he started fooling around with Amanda the slut so I broke up with him and ****ed his brother.

Dayum! That's ruthless. I like you. :D

alpha_omega
05-13-2010, 11:49 AM
Carton Marlboro's: $37.56

Frazod
05-13-2010, 12:16 PM
I haven't smoked a cigarette in 18 years. But I do smoke an occasional cigar. I know they're bad for me, too. But at least I don't smoke several of those a day.

Same here. I was worried at first that it might lead me back to cigarettes, but it didn't. I still hate the smell of them, and I'm sure I'd still hate the taste.

Consistent1
05-13-2010, 02:44 PM
I don't think you are alright. Because your argument to me is banal. You would gain more purchase with me by just appealing to fairness or something rather than falling on your face trying to insult me.

I don't really give a shit about cigarette prices but if I had to choose I'd prefer them to be high. The only point I can make in favor of lower prices is that perhaps the high prices affect mostly the poor cigarette addicts.

Fair enough that you put an opinion in. That is fine. When the price of things gets to be mainly based on taxes, that is bullshit. I don't see government bail out programs being a necessity for tobacco companies. Like it, or not, people smoke. I did not smoke for a period of several years at all. I would NOT sit in a smoking section either, but I would never take that right away from a business owner, or guest. The people that root for high prices on cigarettes are not affected by it. There are things in their lives that could be the target of taxes that are unfair too. I don't drive, but I don't sit around and say "fuck drivers, it's funny that gas is high". That is a different situation, but hey, it's all about pollution, right? There are people out there that could know of an owner allowing smoking in some damn podunk town dive bar that they have never stepped into themselves and call them in for it, just because they are better people than smokers. You are an intelligent enough guy to know that there are all kinds of things out there to be targeted with bullshit taxes.I would be against all that also. I think weed is a garbage drug myself and has a huge blanket of denial in various forms surrounding it, but I would 100% support making it legal and priced, and taxed, fairly. Cigarettes are expensive enough. This shit is all old arguments, but this country isn't getting to be any better of a place.

dred
05-13-2010, 02:47 PM
$4.25 / pack where I am in VA.

Glad I quit smoking last year.

Lumpy
05-13-2010, 03:00 PM
I'm going to make a point regarding the increase in tobacco products. To the nonsmokers; if you think this doesn't impact you, you're wrong.

Consider this, with the increase in tobacco prices along w/ states implementing smoking bans it is forcing ppl to quit smoking. Less smokers equals less tax revenue. The gov't has to make up for this loss in revenue and is, (and will continue to), increase property and personal tax. I don't want to turn this into a DC topic, but seriously, non-smokers are victims too whether they realize it or not.

rad
05-13-2010, 03:02 PM
I roll my own and works out to around 1.10 per pack.

Ebolapox
05-13-2010, 04:11 PM
I roll my own and works out to around 1.10 per pack.

thought weed was more expensive than that... :p

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-13-2010, 04:31 PM
$7.00+

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-13-2010, 04:33 PM
I roll my own and works out to around 1.10 per pack.

Yep.

Pound of tobacco, (1) $17.99

Box of Tubes, (250-count) $1.99

DaneMcCloud
05-13-2010, 04:41 PM
Fair enough that you put an opinion in. That is fine. When the price of things gets to be mainly based on taxes, that is bullshit. I don't see government bail out programs being a necessity for tobacco companies. Like it, or not, people smoke. I did not smoke for a period of several years at all. I would NOT sit in a smoking section either, but I would never take that right away from a business owner, or guest. The people that root for high prices on cigarettes are not affected by it. There are things in their lives that could be the target of taxes that are unfair too. I don't drive, but I don't sit around and say "fuck drivers, it's funny that gas is high". That is a different situation, but hey, it's all about pollution, right? There are people out there that could know of an owner allowing smoking in some damn podunk town dive bar that they have never stepped into themselves and call them in for it, just because they are better people than smokers. You are an intelligent enough guy to know that there are all kinds of things out there to be targeted with bullshit taxes.I would be against all that also. I think weed is a garbage drug myself and has a huge blanket of denial in various forms surrounding it, but I would 100% support making it legal and priced, and taxed, fairly. Cigarettes are expensive enough. This shit is all old arguments, but this country isn't getting to be any better of a place.

You're absolutely incorrect.

70% of people hospitalized each year are due to smoking related diseases, whether it be cancer, lung cancer, breast cancer or other related illnesses.

A large portion of those people don't have adequate (or any) health insurance to cover the costs of treatment so who does? Oh yeah, the government. And guess where the government receives this money? Oh yeah, taxes.

I drink. I'm not a heavy drinker but I do drink. I would be ALL FOR raising taxes on alcohol across the board to help out my state and country. Why? Because I choose to engage in an elective behavior which could have consequences to my health.

I'm all for raising tobacco taxes as well. It's an elective behavior which has proven health consequences.

And as far as this "some small town bar owner" bullshit conspiracy, get the fuck over it. It's been happening worldwide for more than 15 years and bars and restaurants on the whole aren't going anywhere. I think it's utterly ridiculous that bars can go out of business because smoking is more important than socializing and being in public. That's ONE fucking nasty addiction.

And for Fuck's Sake, please learn how use paragraphs.

Over-Head
05-13-2010, 04:43 PM
Players Light Tax's in $12.35
Canadian Classic $10.25

4 and a half years down teh shitter when I started back up again.
:banghead:

Simply Red
05-13-2010, 04:50 PM
$5.50 - parliament

P-funk's - multiple uses. :evil: jk

FAX
05-13-2010, 05:01 PM
They just eclipsed $8 a pack out here in the great state of WA. Cartons are over $70 after tax. How much are they where you live?

Mr. Mr. Flopnuts ... if you are still smoking, I advise you to quit. Immediately.

One of the beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX's relatives is having his right lung cut out on Monday.

Please stop if you can.

FAX

LetsSignRussell
05-13-2010, 05:16 PM
he's fine- just started a new job. 1 step at a time.

rad
05-13-2010, 05:32 PM
Yep.

Pound of tobacco, (1) $17.99

Box of Tubes, (250-count) $1.99

My only regret is that I didn't start rolling my own sooner. I never realized how easy it is.

ArrowheadHawk
05-13-2010, 05:33 PM
My only regret is that I didn't start rolling my own sooner. I never realized how easy it is.

I would think a bigger regret would be that you ever started to smoke.

MadMax
05-13-2010, 07:24 PM
$3.50 pack of GPC Ultra Light 100's and I'm pissin and moanin..

MadMax
05-13-2010, 07:27 PM
I'm going to make a point regarding the increase in tobacco products. To the nonsmokers; if you think this doesn't impact you, you're wrong.

Consider this, with the increase in tobacco prices along w/ states implementing smoking bans it is forcing ppl to quit smoking. Less smokers equals less tax revenue. The gov't has to make up for this loss in revenue and is, (and will continue to), increase property and personal tax. I don't want to turn this into a DC topic, but seriously, non-smokers are victims too whether they realize it or not.




Heh I'd love to see EVERYONE quit smoking just to stick it to "The Man" What would Shitstick do then?

DaneMcCloud
05-13-2010, 07:39 PM
I'm going to make a point regarding the increase in tobacco products. To the nonsmokers; if you think this doesn't impact you, you're wrong.

Consider this, with the increase in tobacco prices along w/ states implementing smoking bans it is forcing ppl to quit smoking. Less smokers equals less tax revenue. The gov't has to make up for this loss in revenue and is, (and will continue to), increase property and personal tax. I don't want to turn this into a DC topic, but seriously, non-smokers are victims too whether they realize it or not.

Actually, no.

There are only 18 million smokers currently in the US, the majority concentrated in the Midwest & South.

If those states continue to raise taxes on tobacco products, they'll have more money more Medicaid. If the Feds raise the taxes, they'll have more money for Medicare.

If people quit, there will be less funding necessary for either due to the fact that 70% of patients hospitalized are there for smoking related illnesses.

MadMax
05-13-2010, 08:29 PM
You're absolutely incorrect.

70% of people hospitalized each year are due to smoking related diseases, whether it be cancer, lung cancer, breast cancer or other related illnesses.

A large portion of those people don't have adequate (or any) health insurance to cover the costs of treatment so who does? Oh yeah, the government. And guess where the government receives this money? Oh yeah, taxes.

I drink. I'm not a heavy drinker but I do drink. I would be ALL FOR raising taxes on alcohol across the board to help out my state and country. Why? Because I choose to engage in an elective behavior which could have consequences to my health.

I'm all for raising tobacco taxes as well. It's an elective behavior which has proven health consequences.

And as far as this "some small town bar owner" bullshit conspiracy, get the **** over it. It's been happening worldwide for more than 15 years and bars and restaurants on the whole aren't going anywhere. I think it's utterly ridiculous that bars can go out of business because smoking is more important than socializing and being in public. That's ONE ****ing nasty addiction.

And for ****'s Sake, please learn how use paragraphs.



I commend you for your willingness to sacrifice mister martyr but leave me out of your eutopian fantasy.

black angus
05-13-2010, 08:48 PM
Kansas is raising Cigarette taxes this year, and we are banning smoking in public places across the state. Huzzah!

I think with the exceptions of nursing homes and the new state-owned casino in Dodge City. :shake: Hypocrites

DaneMcCloud
05-13-2010, 08:49 PM
I commend you for your willingness to sacrifice mister martyr but leave me out of your eutopian fantasy.

Please explain

LetsSignRussell
05-13-2010, 09:20 PM
i used to live next door to dane

MadMax
05-13-2010, 09:21 PM
Please explain




blah! I lost my train of thought lol hep c and alcohol don't mix.

DaneMcCloud
05-13-2010, 09:23 PM
blah! I lost my train of thought lol hep c and alcohol don't mix.

LMAO

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 09:34 PM
If you didn't live in friggin' Bellevue I could tell you where you can find them cheaper. I rarely pay more than $4/pack for them.

Oh, and I started when I was a teenager because I'm a goddamn idiot, and nothing much has changed since then.

I thought you quit from Chantix?

Just quit now man. I quit back in 2004 and it's honestly one of the best things I've done. I used to smoke a pack a day....and if I went out to the bars....it was more than a pack a day. I quit for free because I was in the Air Force and they paid for the patches and medication.

Just think about this.....if you're running 4 miles now....imagine what you can run after you've stopped smoking.

I run 6. :D

You are trying to be healthy yet you are smoking? Something aint right.

Flop,

I thought you weere into the health thing now?

Mr. Mr. Flopnuts ... if you are still smoking, I advise you to quit. Immediately.

One of the beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX's relatives is having his right lung cut out on Monday.

Please stop if you can.

FAX

Just quit, Dude.

You're spending money on something that's slowly killing you each year. That $4,800 per year could be a one week vacation in Mexico and a one week vacation at Disney Land or Disney World. Hell, if you shop Orbitz and Expedia, you could make to Europe, Tahiti or any number of fun destinations with that type of coin!

I've told you this before but I've never smoked a day in my life. Watching my great grandfather lie in a hospital bed with 100 needles sticking out of his back in an effort to reduce the pain of emphysema while living his last days had quite an effect on me.

My grandmother's sister on my father's side died at age 50 of lung disease and emphysema.

If you're going to slowly kill yourself, do it with alcohol. It's much more fun! :)

Be well.


I appreciate it guys. I had two major issues on hand and decided to tackle them one at a time. Live past 40. Then live past 70. In that order. I'm still working on the first part. I'm sure thinking about the 2nd though, hence the starting of the thread. That day is coming.

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 10:09 PM
I thought you quit from Chantix?

Did for almost six months. Then started again. And stopped again. Started. Stopped. Started. Stopped.

Eh, I think you get the picture. That's why I call bullshit whenever I hear someone say "it gets easier after ____ days/weeks/months. It never gets easier after you've smoked for as long as I have.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 10:15 PM
Did for almost six months. Then started again. And stopped again. Started. Stopped. Started. Stopped.

Eh, I think you get the picture. That's why I call bullshit whenever I hear someone say "it gets easier after ____ days/weeks/months. It never gets easier after you've smoked for as long as I have.

Oh fuck. Six months? Why'd you start again? Just felt like it? Or you craved it? Because if you craved it, Chantix is fucking worthless.

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 10:19 PM
Oh ****. Six months? Why'd you start again? Just felt like it? Or you craved it? Because if you craved it, Chantix is ****ing worthless.
No no, Chantix isn't worthless. It did its job quite well, it made quitting very easy. But eventually you have to stop taking it, then it's all up to you.

Drinking is what keeps fucking me up. And trust me, no one is more disappointed about it than me.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 10:24 PM
No no, Chantix isn't worthless. It did its job quite well, it made quitting very easy. But eventually you have to stop taking it, then it's all up to you.

Drinking is what keeps fucking me up. And trust me, no one is more disappointed about it than me.

I don't drink, but I smoke. :bong: Same effect. I love cigarettes after I get stoned.

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 10:31 PM
I don't drink, but I smoke. :bong: Same effect. I love cigarettes after I get stoned.
Heh, yeah, it does kinda enhance the buzz. But I can take weed or leave it, the beer is a different story though, it's how I unwind. Funny thing is I didn't even hardly drink until just a few years ago.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 10:34 PM
Heh, yeah, it does kinda enhance the buzz. But I can take weed or leave it, the beer is a different story though, it's how I unwind. Funny thing is I didn't even hardly drink until just a few years ago.

I shouldn't act like a teetotaler. I'm just losing weight as you know and have never been much of a drinker. The calories in it has me drinking once or twice a year right now. I'll go back to a six pack every week or two as soon as I get where I'm going. And I do love to smoke with my pork chop beers. Come out for the Nebraska game, and I'll make sure to tip back a few Alaskan Ambers with you.

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 10:43 PM
I shouldn't act like a teetotaler. I'm just losing weight as you know and have never been much of a drinker. The calories in it has me drinking once or twice a year right now. I'll go back to a six pack every week or two as soon as I get where I'm going. And I do love to smoke with my pork chop beers. Come out for the Nebraska game, and I'll make sure to tip back a few Alaskan Ambers with you.
Still not sure about making it out there, if things pick up for me (like they should) the next couple months I'll be OK, but it's been a shaky spring so far. My little surprise from the IRS today sure helps things though.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 10:44 PM
Still not sure about making it out there, if things pick up for me (like they should) the next couple months I'll be OK, but it's been a shaky spring so far. My little surprise from the IRS today sure helps things though.

Yeah, I just saw that on facebook. Nice! :thumb: I hope you make it, but we'll be hanging out a week or two before that regardless. I'm thinking about packing a 12 pack of Alaskan for myself on my carry on. :D

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 10:58 PM
Yeah, I just saw that on facebook. Nice! :thumb: I hope you make it, but we'll be hanging out a week or two before that regardless. I'm thinking about packing a 12 pack of Alaskan for myself on my carry on. :D
They will let you do that?

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 11:00 PM
They will let you do that?

My wife brought me a 12 pack to Charlotte after flying back from Seattle to see her family while we were living out there.

LetsSignRussell
05-13-2010, 11:14 PM
bug i'm counting on you for a ride to st joes

Baconeater
05-13-2010, 11:19 PM
My wife brought me a 12 pack to Charlotte after flying back from Seattle to see her family while we were living out there.
I thought they tightened up restrictions on liquids after some stupid bomb scare a few years back. I'm not really sure as I don't fly very often. There's plenty of good stuff available locally here if you can't.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-13-2010, 11:27 PM
I thought they tightened up restrictions on liquids after some stupid bomb scare a few years back. I'm not really sure as I don't fly very often. There's plenty of good stuff available locally here if you can't.

Maybe, this was 4 years ago. I'll have to look into it.

Buck's Dad
05-14-2010, 03:29 AM
bug i'm counting on you for a ride to st joes

Imight be too, loren.

Simply Red
05-14-2010, 05:09 AM
Imight be too, loren.

this made me laugh. Thank you!

ArrowheadHawk
05-14-2010, 06:34 AM
Did for almost six months. Then started again. And stopped again. Started. Stopped. Started. Stopped.

Eh, I think you get the picture. That's why I call bullshit whenever I hear someone say "it gets easier after ____ days/weeks/months. It never gets easier after you've smoked for as long as I have.It does get easier. But only after years. Several years. It took me over 2 years to stop haveing cravings.

dtebbe
05-14-2010, 07:10 AM
Not high enough here.. retards are still buying them.

DT

boogblaster
05-14-2010, 09:10 AM
Roll my own for bout 1 buck a pack .....

Lumpy
05-14-2010, 10:38 AM
Actually, no.

There are only 18 million smokers currently in the US, the majority concentrated in the Midwest & South.

If those states continue to raise taxes on tobacco products, they'll have more money more Medicaid. If the Feds raise the taxes, they'll have more money for Medicare.

If people quit, there will be less funding necessary for either due to the fact that 70% of patients hospitalized are there for smoking related illnesses.

Wow, Dane. You didn't meet my expectations at all w/ this retort. Not one single cuss word? Are you feeling ok? :p

I see what you're saying, I do. However, I've done extensive research on the tobacco tax increases, how it influences the economy, along with how pharmaceutical companies endorse smoking bans in order to sell their products, (some of which do not work and can cause more health issues than longterm smoking). But, like I said earlier, I don't want to turn this into a DC topic.

Sweet Daddy Hate
05-14-2010, 10:45 AM
My only regret is that I didn't start rolling my own sooner. I never realized how easy it is.

I would think a bigger regret would be that you ever started to smoke.

True on both counts.