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MoreLemonPledge
05-16-2010, 11:18 PM
http://www.spin.com/spin25/125-best-albums-past-25-years

Ranking albums is always a controversial undertaking. I can understand their picks, but I don't necessarily have to agree with them. But, being that I'm 25 years old, I find this interesting.

Anyway, the Top 10 albums since 1985, or A.M.L.P (After MoreLemonPledge), according to Spin Magazine:

10. The Downward Spiral - Nine Inch Nails
9. Slanted and Enchanted - Pavement
8. Rid of Me - PJ Harvey
7. Appetite for Destruction - Guns 'N Roses
6. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - Public Enemy
5. OK Computer - Radiohead
4. Nevermind - Nirvana
3. The Queen is Dead - The Smiths
2. Sign O' the Times - Prince
1. Achtung Baby - U2

QuikSsurfer
05-17-2010, 12:15 AM
good list.
I especially enjoyed seeing My Bloody Valentine at number 20.

Reaper16
05-17-2010, 12:25 AM
Unequivocal fucking garbage. I expected nothing less from the worst popular music magazine.

rambleonthruthefog
05-17-2010, 12:25 AM
i have a real problem with stankonia at #12. i could have lived with ATLiens at #12. i f'n love that album!

|Zach|
05-17-2010, 12:25 AM
Albums I am happy made the list...
113 Danger Mouse, The Grey Album
90 Elliott Smith, XO
59 Belle and Sebastian, If You're Feeling Sinister
72 Lucinda Williams, Lucinda Williams

Albums I thought were too overrated on the list...
71 Oasis, Definitely Maybe
40 Tricky, Maxinquaye (Pre-Millennium tension was stronger)
25 Nas, Illmatic

Albums I thought were underrated on the list...
117 The Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
87 The White Stripes, White Blood Cells
82 Dr. Dre, The Chronic
61 Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Missing...
Smashing Pumpkins - Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness
Elbow - Seldom Seen Kid
Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
Karate - Some Boots

QuikSsurfer
05-17-2010, 12:27 AM
Albums I am happy made the list...
113 Danger Mouse, The Grey Album
90 Elliott Smith, XO
59 Belle and Sebastian, If You're Feeling Sinister
72 Lucinda Williams, Lucinda Williams

Albums I thought were too overrated on the list...
71 Oasis, Definitely Maybe
40 Tricky, Maxinquaye (Pre-Millennium tension was stronger)
25 Nas, Illmatic

Albums I thought were underrated on the list...
117 The Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
87 The White Stripes, White Blood Cells
82 Dr. Dre, The Chronic
61 Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Missing...
Smashing Pumpkins - Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness
Elbow - Seldom Seen Kid
Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
Karate - Some Boots

You'd have Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots OVER the Soft Bulletin?

Ebolapox
05-17-2010, 12:49 AM
I don't listen to or appreciate enough different genres of music to really appreciate this type of list. honestly, if I ever sat down and made a list, it would be very heavy into hard rock/metal/rock, hip hop, reggae and some grunge (and I guess some punk thrown in as well). as it is, I'm sure some of these are absolute classics: however, like the 40 unread books sitting on my bookshelf, I'll have to wait to become independently wealthy (aka, have time to read/listen to music while not busy with something else) to appreciate them.

Pitt Gorilla
05-17-2010, 12:50 AM
Albums I am happy made the list...
113 Danger Mouse, The Grey Album
90 Elliott Smith, XO
59 Belle and Sebastian, If You're Feeling Sinister
72 Lucinda Williams, Lucinda Williams

Albums I thought were too overrated on the list...
71 Oasis, Definitely Maybe
40 Tricky, Maxinquaye (Pre-Millennium tension was stronger)
25 Nas, Illmatic

Albums I thought were underrated on the list...
117 The Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
87 The White Stripes, White Blood Cells
82 Dr. Dre, The Chronic
61 Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Missing...
Smashing Pumpkins - Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness
Elbow - Seldom Seen Kid
Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
Karate - Some BootsPearl Jam's 10 at 70 seems pretty low.

KC native
05-17-2010, 01:28 AM
Marshall Mathers LP at 65?

Stankonia over Aqueimini and ATLiens?

Fear of a black planet over reasonable doubt or Ready to Die?

A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back in the top 10?

NO MOTHERFUCKING MARS VOLTA!!!!!!

This list can eat shit, get aids, and die in a fire.

Saccopoo
05-17-2010, 01:44 AM
Jesus...

Achtung Baby?

Chiefspants
05-17-2010, 02:09 AM
Any Opeth on there? How about Porcupine Tree?

Yup, I'll pass.

Saccopoo
05-17-2010, 02:44 AM
Eh...they tried to be hip, yet mainstream. That's their publication.

They included Lucinda Williams, though it wasn't the correct album. Car Wheels on a Gravel Road is utterly stunning.

Smashing Pumpkins required a nod, but Gish is their best. Raw, powerful, sexually charged without the pretentions and pseudo-artistic overload that accompanied most of their subsequent albums.

Jane's Addiction's XXX was ground breaking. A 1988 "live" album that is as cutting edge and relevant today as it was back then. The three studio albums after that never were able to reach the passion and intensity of that recording. Kiss' Alive, Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison, The Almond Brothers at Fillmore East, Jazz at the Pawnshop and Jane's Addiction XXX are some of the greatest live albums ever.

The Cure, but not Disintegration or Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me? Please.

Rage, but it should have been the first album.

Good inclusions were Portishead, Tricky, PJ Harvey (especially Stories), DJ Shadow (one of my favorite albums ever), Belle and Sebastian (though I don't know if it's top 125 worthy)...

Bad inclusions were Guns and Roses. Everytime I listen to that album, I dislike it just a little bit more. It's not as cutting edge as they want us to believe and doesn't age well. It's kind of stupid and base.

Notable exemptions were Jurassic 5's Power In Numbers, Depeche Mode's Music for the Masses and about 1000 other really good albums, but I understand what they were doing with their list.

It's okay, I guess.

SnakeXJones
05-17-2010, 02:51 AM
The List lost went shit at #120 Lil Wayne no... no .... no .... no

siberian khatru
05-17-2010, 06:55 AM
Any Opeth on there? How about Porcupine Tree?

Yup, I'll pass.

But they have Coldplay!

the Talking Can
05-17-2010, 07:14 AM
U2


lol

patteeu
05-17-2010, 09:09 AM
good list.
I especially enjoyed seeing My Bloody Valentine at number 20.

That's a great record, but I can't figure out how it came in ahead of JAMC's Psychocandy (36).

Brock
05-17-2010, 10:38 AM
That is a shitty top 10.

PunkinDrublic
05-17-2010, 11:49 AM
Unequivocal ****ing garbage. I expected nothing less from the worst popular music magazine.

I agree. Music magazines do these list all the time to sell more issues but Spin has become such a joke I don't give a shit anymore. At least with Rolling Stone the articles are decent and well written.

Red Brooklyn
05-17-2010, 11:59 AM
Albums I thought were underrated on the list...
117 The Flaming Lips, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
87 The White Stripes, White Blood Cells
82 Dr. Dre, The Chronic
61 Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Missing...
Smashing Pumpkins - Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness
Elbow - Seldom Seen Kid
Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
Karate - Some Boots

Pearl Jam's 10 at 70 seems pretty low.

Jesus...

Achtung Baby?

Unequivocal ****ing garbage. I expected nothing less from the worst popular music magazine.

No doubt, there's some nice stuff on this list... but the rankings are so out of whack, and there's a lot missing.

Fat Elvis
05-17-2010, 12:03 PM
That's a great record, but I can't figure out how it came in ahead of JAMC's Psychocandy (36).

I would of never, ever pegged you as being a Psychocandy fan.....

|Zach|
05-17-2010, 12:18 PM
No doubt, there's some nice stuff on this list... but the rankings are so out of whack, and there's a lot missing.

To be fair. There is absolutely no way you can do this without a majority of the people saying exactly this.

NewChief
05-17-2010, 12:21 PM
I'd be interested in seeing similar lists from other magazines like Paste or Mojo.

Red Brooklyn
05-17-2010, 01:23 PM
To be fair. There is absolutely no way you can do this without a majority of the people saying exactly this.
True story.

But this one is ESPECIALLY all over the place. :D

Looking over other such lists from other media sources, one can start to piece together something approximating a "general consensus" and this is seems to be an outlier based on others like it that I've seen.

patteeu
05-17-2010, 01:37 PM
I would of never, ever pegged you as being a Psychocandy fan.....

What kind of fan would you have pegged me as? Pat Boone or Toby Keith? LOL :)

Psychocandy diverted me away from the heavy metal of my youth and broadened my musical horizons. Of course, the fact that it came out around the time when I started my first full time job and I had the money to buy vinyl and later CDs somewhat frivolously helped too.

CoMoChief
05-17-2010, 01:55 PM
fuckin bullshit that Aaron Carter didn't make the list.

Cmon' Aaron's Party?!?!? Sorry but this list just lost it's credibility.

DMAC
05-17-2010, 02:10 PM
What a horrible website they have...

...and Soundgarden-Superunknown at 95? I have that in the top 25 of ALL TIME!

Jawshco
05-17-2010, 02:26 PM
This list is way too trendy for my tastes. There are some pretty good alternative 90's era stuff on there, but probably too much of it. Waaay too much rap for me, and yet no Cyprus?? What? Seriously?

Not a lot of love for Metal either...
I didn't see any: Megadeth, Pantera, Zombie, Deftones, Tool, Korn, Faith No More, System of a Down, Papa Roach or Disturbed. All had worthy albums IMO...

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good albums to have on this list, but I think the author got stuck in certain phases of music here and there, and put in some sentimental favorites rather than the best ones... I mean Hole? I'd rather see Bush or No Doubt there rather than Hole.

Jawshco
05-17-2010, 02:38 PM
Just realized that The Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magic didn't make the list. That's crazy! How can you miss that one? Yet repeat other bands that were just... Meh. Poorly done list...

vailpass
05-17-2010, 03:42 PM
Jesus...

Achtung Baby?

My thoughts exactly. Might as well put Lady Gaga up there.

Pablo
05-17-2010, 04:15 PM
The only one in the Top 10 I agree with is OK Computer.

Dallas Chief
05-17-2010, 08:35 PM
The Chronic, The Joshua Tree, and Ten are all way too low. Should be top 25- at least. Also missing, for me anyway, Alice in Chains- Dirt and Live- Throwing Copper.

Deberg_1990
05-17-2010, 09:00 PM
Decent list.....never going to please everyone of course.

Persuing the list brought back a ton of memories for me.....

Pitt Gorilla
05-17-2010, 10:06 PM
The Chronic, The Joshua Tree, and Ten are all way too low. Should be top 25- at least. Also missing, for me anyway, Alice in Chains- Dirt and Live- Throwing Copper.I was thinking about Dirt as well (or Jar of Flies).

MoreLemonPledge
05-17-2010, 11:04 PM
The only one in the Top 10 I agree with is OK Computer.

Except it should have been #1.

Fat Elvis
05-19-2010, 12:37 AM
What kind of fan would you have pegged me as? Pat Boone or Toby Keith? LOL :)

Psychocandy diverted me away from the heavy metal of my youth and broadened my musical horizons. Of course, the fact that it came out around the time when I started my first full time job and I had the money to buy vinyl and later CDs somewhat frivolously helped too.

My wife still refers to them as the Jesus and Mary Chainsaw....

Useful Idiot
05-19-2010, 04:43 PM
Except it should have been #1.

nope.

Master Musicians of Bukakke should have been #1. :D

Sanka
05-19-2010, 04:57 PM
3 Gay-Z cds? Besides Reasonabale Doubt, his cds suck. Not to mention they have the Shitprint higher then Nas' Illmatic, easily the greatest Hip-Hop cd of all time. And no 2PAC? WTF is this crap.

Pitt Gorilla
05-19-2010, 08:42 PM
I just realized that Metallica's Black Album didn't make the list.

Deberg_1990
05-20-2010, 12:26 AM
Realized they left out a few...

MJ: Bad

Wheres Springsteen??

Paul Simon: Graceland

John Fogerty???

Black Crowes: Shake your money maker

Just a few off the top of my head....

TrickyNicky
05-20-2010, 01:21 AM
I figured Sublime would've been on there considering...

Miles
05-20-2010, 01:54 AM
I just realized that Metallica's Black Album didn't make the list.

There are always omissions like that with these sort of lists just because part of them is to stir up controversy. IMO no Tool is a bigger omission.

The sub caption of the article did mention "most influential albums" as well.

Miles
05-20-2010, 01:56 AM
The only one in the Top 10 I agree with is OK Computer.

I also thought The Downward Spiral and The Queen is Dead were decent top 10 picks.

Saccopoo
05-20-2010, 03:58 AM
That's a great record, but I can't figure out how it came in ahead of JAMC's Psychocandy (36).

Because it's better. Better depth, layering, structure, framework and artistic endeavor. It's also a more complete album in terms of length and quality of the individual songs.

I'm not bagging on Psychocandy, as I really enjoy that album, but Loveless is a better album by far.

Saccopoo
05-20-2010, 04:04 AM
What a horrible website they have...

...and Soundgarden-Superunknown at 95? I have that in the top 25 of ALL TIME!

Sorry, but no.

Superunknown at 95 is overrated. It was Soundgarden's initial commercial success, but it was nowhere close to "Louder than Love" in terms of raw power, musical passion and impact in terms of musical appreciation by those who appreciate music as music.

Saccopoo
05-20-2010, 04:08 AM
Just realized that The Red Hot Chili Pepper's Blood Sugar Sex Magic didn't make the list. That's crazy! How can you miss that one? Yet repeat other bands that were just... Meh. Poorly done list...

Yeah, to not include BSSM is retarded. Genre inspiring/defining, huge, etc...that omission is ridiculous.

patteeu
05-20-2010, 06:52 AM
Because it's better. Better depth, layering, structure, framework and artistic endeavor. It's also a more complete album in terms of length and quality of the individual songs.

I'm not bagging on Psychocandy, as I really enjoy that album, but Loveless is a better album by far.

Obviously, I think that's ridiculous.

Saccopoo
05-20-2010, 12:04 PM
Obviously, I think that's ridiculous.

That's the great thing about music and how it's perceived. There is a little something for everyone.

I've got both albums and listen to them extensively and they are two of my favorite albums ever. However, the first time I heard Loveless, it was one of those chin on the chest, knock you down with a feather moments. I still remember it as like it was yesterday. Kind of like the first time I really listened to Black Sabbath's Paranoid in entirety. Just one of those "holy shit" experiences.

patteeu
05-20-2010, 12:34 PM
That's the great thing about music and how it's perceived. There is a little something for everyone.

I've got both albums and listen to them extensively and they are two of my favorite albums ever. However, the first time I heard Loveless, it was one of those chin on the chest, knock you down with a feather moments. I still remember it as like it was yesterday. Kind of like the first time I really listened to Black Sabbath's Paranoid in entirety. Just one of those "holy shit" experiences.

:thumb:

MOhillbilly
05-20-2010, 03:57 PM
Bullshit list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0zMZ-mz_g

KCUnited
05-20-2010, 04:02 PM
Bullshit list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0zMZ-mz_g
POWERVIOLENCE

MOhillbilly
05-20-2010, 04:09 PM
fuckin hard, cant get enough of these guys.

lyrics-
I've grown cold inside
And I don't give a shit anymore

Feeling negative
Feeling fucking mean
Feeling negative
Feeling cold inside

What? I've lost my train of thought
So I'll say FUCK OFF

Falling down falling down
Beaten down beaten down

It's no lie
I've grown cold inside

MOhillbilly
05-20-2010, 04:13 PM
heart me some thrash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nq-mbDRyPE

KurtCobain
05-20-2010, 04:16 PM
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bart_nirvana.jpg

salame
05-21-2010, 04:24 AM
Marshall Mathers LP at 65?

Stankonia over Aqueimini and ATLiens?

Fear of a black planet over reasonable doubt or Ready to Die?

A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back in the top 10?

NO MOTHER****ING MARS VOLTA!!!!!!

This list can eat shit, get aids, and die in a fire.


Deloused?

KC native
05-21-2010, 02:28 PM
Deloused?

I think Amputechture is their best but Deloused is the most critically acclaimed and well known.

whoman69
05-22-2010, 08:27 AM
I don't know if I could point to 125 good albums over the last 25 years. That puts it at 1985. Ugh.

Saccopoo
05-22-2010, 07:22 PM
I don't know if I could point to 125 good albums over the last 25 years. That puts it at 1985. Ugh.

Five a year. That's not hard. In fact, I think that I'm going to do just that for shits and giggles.

Nzoner
05-23-2010, 09:16 AM
How about Porcupine Tree?

Yup, I'll pass.

Same here,125 albums and not one Porcupine Tree mention,what a waste of time :rolleyes: