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petegz28
05-21-2010, 05:29 PM
A top Department of Homeland Security official reportedly said his agency will not necessarily process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona authorities.

top Department of Homeland Security official reportedly said his agency will not necessarily process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona authorities.

John Morton, assistant secretary of homeland security for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, made the comment during a meeting on Wednesday with the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune, the newspaper reports.

"I don't think the Arizona law, or laws like it, are the solution," Morton told the newspaper.

The best way to reduce illegal immigration is through a comprehensive federal approach, he said, and not a patchwork of state laws.

The law, which criminalizes being in the state illegally and requires authorities to check suspects for immigration status, is not "good government," Morton said.

In response to Morton's comments, DHS officials said President Obama has ordered the Department of Justice to examine the civil rights and other implications of the law.

"That review will inform the government's actions going forward," DHS spokesman Matt Chandler told Fox News on Friday.

Fox News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano said ICE is not obligated to process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona authorities.

"ICE has the legal discretion to accept or not to accept persons delivered to it by non-federal personnel," Napolitano said. "It also has the discretion to deport or not to deport persons delivered to it by any government agents, even its own."

Morton, according to a biography posted on ICE's website, began his federal service in 1994 and has held numerous positions at the Department of Justice, including as a trial attorney and special assistant to the general counsel in the former Immigration and Naturalization Service and as counsel to the deputy attorney general.

Border apprehensions in Arizona, where roughly 500,000 illegal immigrants are estimated to be living, are up 6 percent since October, according to federal statistics. Roughly 6.5 million residents live in Arizona.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-AL, said it appeared the Obama administration is "nullifying existing law" and suggested Morton may not be the right person for his post if he fails to enforce federal immigration law.

"If he feels he cannot enforce the law, he shouldn't have the job," Sessions told Fox News. "That makes him, in my view, not fulfilling the responsibilities of his office."

Sessions said the U.S. government has "systematically failed" to enforce federal immigration law and claimed Morton's statement is an indication that federal officials do not plan on working with Arizona authorities regarding its controversial law.

"They're telegraphing to every ICE agency in America that they really don't intend on cooperating with Arizona," Sessions said. "The federal government should step up and do it. It's their responsibility."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/21/official-says-feds-process-illegals-referred-arizona/

petegz28
05-21-2010, 05:32 PM
This guy should be fired.

Secondly, if ICE "chooses" not to deport illegals something needs to be done for them failing to uphold the law.

petegz28
05-21-2010, 05:34 PM
Also it is noteworthy to point out that this man's attitude is exactly why the people in AZ wanted the law in the first place.

Baby Lee
05-21-2010, 05:36 PM
I see a juicy standoff, ICE refusing to process, AZ holding them until they do. Now it's on ICE for the failure to provide due process. Otherwise ICE unilaterally releases them and OWNS every crime subsequently committed by non-processed persons.

notorious
05-21-2010, 05:37 PM
Christ, 2012 can't come soon enough.



Maybe we can replace these morons with slightly better morons.

petegz28
05-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Just thinking about it, isn't ICE "choosing" not to enforce the law, whether illegals are referred by AZ or otherwise, aiding in a criminal act?

The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 05:59 PM
Gee wiz, we want to help, but our hands are tied. - Fed govt

chiefforlife
05-21-2010, 06:11 PM
Unbelievable! Why would it matter how the illegal immigrants were referred to them. They should be thanking Arizona for doing their job for them.

Its as if Illegals have more rights than US citizens, WTF?

go bowe
05-21-2010, 06:25 PM
Just thinking about it, isn't ICE "choosing" not to enforce the law, whether illegals are referred by AZ or otherwise, aiding in a criminal act?no...

BigChiefFan
05-21-2010, 06:26 PM
Time for government to understand, they work for US. Whoever said that, should be fired on the spot. Time to clean house and get rid of the dead weight of the bloated government. Do these clowns realize they work for us and our USING our tax dollars? Get to work and enforce the law on the books.

mikey23545
05-21-2010, 06:27 PM
no...

yes...

mikey23545
05-21-2010, 06:30 PM
My God, Obama has got to go before he drives this country to a civil war...

It's hard to believe an American President could be so divisive

Ebolapox
05-21-2010, 06:32 PM
oh FFS

petegz28
05-21-2010, 06:35 PM
no...

Sure seems by letting them break the law they are

petegz28
05-21-2010, 06:38 PM
Just another note....Governor Brewer of AZ has attempted to contact both Obama and Napolitano to discuss the AZ law and neither will return her calls or letters.

That's called reaching out.....LMAO

banyon
05-21-2010, 06:46 PM
I see a juicy standoff, ICE refusing to process, AZ holding them until they do. Now it's on ICE for the failure to provide due process. Otherwise ICE unilaterally releases them and OWNS every crime subsequently committed by non-processed persons.

AZ cannot legally detain them for more than 48 hours if ICE doesn't pick them up, at least that's my understanding.


But I think you might get an equal protection violation in which AZ could sue DHS.

go bowe
05-21-2010, 06:47 PM
generally speaking the legislature makes the laws and the executive implements them...

but historically the executive can exercises some discretion in determining how to implement the laws and even in some cases whether or not to implement them at all...

similar to a prosecuting attorney who decides whether to prosecute or not, with nobody being able to tell him otherwise...

orange
05-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Immigration crackdown for Illinois

Feds to step up enforcement
By Oscar Avila, Tribune reporter

6:03 p.m. CDT, May 19, 2010
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In the midst of an outcry over illegal immigration and Arizona's new crackdown, a top Department of Homeland Security official visiting Chicago on Wednesday said his agency intended to step up enforcement in places such as Illinois.

John Morton, who heads U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said his agency intends to expand the Secure Communities initiative, which gives police and sheriff's departments access to a Homeland Security database that includes fingerprints. The initiative recently grew to include most of Chicago's suburbs.

Morton, a former prosecutor, also said the agency intends to increase scrutiny of employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. (I bolded this one just for me; go team!)

"If we're going to bring about meaningful changes in behavior, you have to do that by focusing on the employer," he said during a meeting with the Tribune editorial board.

Morton said the government's stepped-up enforcement would result in a "sharp increase" in deportations this year. Last year's 400,000 overall deportations were a record, but this year there has already been a 40 percent jump in deportations of criminals, he said.

Echoing comments by President Barack Obama and others in the administration, Morton said that Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigration is not "good government." The law makes it a crime to be in the state illegally and requires police to check suspects for immigration paperwork.

Morton said his agency will not necessarily process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona officials. The best way to reduce illegal immigration is through a comprehensive federal approach, not a patchwork of state laws, he said.

"I don't think the Arizona law, or laws like it, are the solution," Morton said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-immigration-laws-chicago-20100519,0,6582417.story

Don't you guys ever get tired of getting jerked around by FAUX? He basically said Arizona doesn't set INS' agenda.

The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 06:52 PM
Don't you guys ever get tired of getting jerked around by FAUX?

As opposed to what? Getting jerked around by B.O. and you by proxy?

petegz28
05-21-2010, 06:52 PM
Immigration crackdown for Illinois

Feds to step up enforcement
By Oscar Avila, Tribune reporter

6:03 p.m. CDT, May 19, 2010
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In the midst of an outcry over illegal immigration and Arizona's new crackdown, a top Department of Homeland Security official visiting Chicago on Wednesday said his agency intended to step up enforcement in places such as Illinois.

John Morton, who heads U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said his agency intends to expand the Secure Communities initiative, which gives police and sheriff's departments access to a Homeland Security database that includes fingerprints. The initiative recently grew to include most of Chicago's suburbs.

Morton, a former prosecutor, also said the agency intends to increase scrutiny of employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

"If we're going to bring about meaningful changes in behavior, you have to do that by focusing on the employer," he said during a meeting with the Tribune editorial board.

Morton said the government's stepped-up enforcement would result in a "sharp increase" in deportations this year. Last year's 400,000 overall deportations were a record, but this year there has already been a 40 percent jump in deportations of criminals, he said.

Echoing comments by President Barack Obama and others in the administration, Morton said that Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigration is not "good government." The law makes it a crime to be in the state illegally and requires police to check suspects for immigration paperwork.

Morton said his agency will not necessarily process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona officials. The best way to reduce illegal immigration is through a comprehensive federal approach, not a patchwork of state laws, he said.

"I don't think the Arizona law, or laws like it, are the solution," Morton said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-immigration-laws-chicago-20100519,0,6582417.story

Don't you guys ever get tired of getting jerked around by FAUX? He basically said Arizona doesn't set INS' agenda.

No, he basically said he won't enforce the law cause him no like AZ.

And I am not impressed with the Illinois ordeal.

go bowe
05-21-2010, 06:53 PM
AZ cannot legally detain them for more than 48 hours if ICE doesn't pick them up, at least that's my understanding.


But I think you might get an equal protection violation in which AZ could sue DHS.equal protection?

what would that theory look like?

petegz28
05-21-2010, 06:54 PM
I'd sure like to see the efforts in Illinois focused more on the border states. Perhaps the illegals would not make it to Illinois then?

petegz28
05-21-2010, 06:55 PM
As opposed to what? Getting jerked around by B.O. and you by proxy?

Remember, Obama says information is a bad thing.

go bowe
05-21-2010, 06:56 PM
No, he basically said he won't enforce the law cause him no like AZ.

And I am not impressed with the Illinois ordeal.him no like az?

me no like hot place neither...

The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 06:57 PM
Remember, Obama says information is a bad thing.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. I guess. :rolleyes:

Oh wait, now I think I see what point Orange is making----

Some animals are more equal than others.

go bowe
05-21-2010, 06:58 PM
I'd sure like to see the efforts in Illinois focused more on the border states. Perhaps the illegals would not make it to Illinois then?too late...

illegals are overrunning america throughout the country...

eek! :eek: :eek: :eek:

petegz28
05-21-2010, 06:58 PM
him no like az?

me no like hot place neither...

My Pops lives in Phoenix. Personally I don't care for the place much. Too hot, too brown. And by brown I mean the desert and scenery.

I like the lush green here in sunny Olathe.

banyon
05-21-2010, 06:58 PM
equal protection?

what would that theory look like?

Well, the class would be citizens of the state of Arizona (admittedly a state has rarely been seen as a suspect class, but with all of the economic threats, maybe it's colorable) and the prohibited conduct would be an arbitrary/capricious decision not to enforce federal laws in their state (assuming the AZ law is valid), when they are perfectly willing to enforce those laws in every other state (class).

go bowe
05-21-2010, 06:59 PM
Remember, Obama says information is a bad thing.really?

do you have a link for that or at least a description of what you are referring to?

go bowe
05-21-2010, 07:01 PM
My Pops lives in Phoenix. Personally I don't care for the place much. Too hot, too brown. And by brown I mean the desert and scenery.

I like the lush green here in sunny Olathe.there's something about that desert smell that my nose just doesn't like...

and it's too hot...

and too brown...

i think we agree on this... :D :D :D

go bowe
05-21-2010, 07:03 PM
Well, the class would be citizens of the state of Arizona (admittedly a state has rarely been seen as a suspect class, but with all of the economic threats, maybe it's colorable) and the prohibited conduct would be an arbitrary/capricious decision not to enforce federal laws in their state (assuming the AZ law is valid), when they are perfectly willing to enforce those laws in every other state (class).rarely?

can you name one instance where a state has been a suspect class?

that theory seems a mite weak to me, but then i'm old and set in my ways...

petegz28
05-21-2010, 07:05 PM
really?

do you have a link for that or at least a description of what you are referring to?

Search the threads. I believe HCF started on on it last week or so

mikey23545
05-21-2010, 07:11 PM
really?

do you have a link for that or at least a description of what you are referring to?

What, do you live underground?

“You’re coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don’t always rank all that high on the truth meter. With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, — none of which I know how to work — information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation.”

orange
05-21-2010, 07:15 PM
“You’re coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don’t always rank all that high on the truth meter. With iPods and iTouch Senior Citizen Editions and Xboxes and PlayStations, — none of which I know how to work — information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation.”

"But your college education equips you to handle it... yada, yadalinsky, yada."

mikey23545 - are you jealous because you don't have the equipment?

:eek: Did I say that?!

CoMoChief
05-21-2010, 07:20 PM
This guy should be fired.

Secondly, if ICE "chooses" not to deport illegals something needs to be done for them failing to uphold the law.

500,000 believed to be illegals living in a state w/ only a 6.5 million population???

Thats like 8% of the people living in that state are there illegally. Or did I just read that wrong.

mikey23545
05-21-2010, 07:26 PM
oh FFS

In Lebanon, Pa., Sen. Arlen Specter, a Republican-turned-Democrat, faced hostile questions and taunts at a town hall meeting. "One day God will stand before you and judge you!" Craig Anthony Miller shouted.

Specter said afterward that in more than four decades in politics he hadn't seen anything like it. "There is more anger in America today than at any time I can remember," he said.

notorious
05-21-2010, 07:28 PM
Specter said afterward that in more than four decades in politics he hadn't seen anything like it. "There is more anger in America today than at any time I can remember," he said.

He should look in the mirror to figure out why the U.S. is so pissed off.

banyon
05-21-2010, 07:30 PM
rarely?

can you name one instance where a state has been a suspect class?

that theory seems a mite weak to me, but then i'm old and set in my ways...

I understand, but can you think of another instance of the Federal Government refusing to enforce its laws in just one state (or even specifically two or three)?

The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 07:39 PM
Do you know who rocks? Banyon.

Banyon rocks!

He's my hero. He truly is.

The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 07:40 PM
Banyon is like, so cool. He's a lawyer and shit.

go bowe
05-21-2010, 07:41 PM
I understand, but can you think of another instance of the Federal Government refusing to enforce its laws in just one state (or even specifically two or three)?nope...

the federal government already does not "follow" the laws when it comes to immigration...

scarce resources are always allocated on some basis...

nowadays, if you are not a middle easterner you almost can't get yourself deported (except for convicted felons)...

go bowe
05-21-2010, 07:42 PM
Banyon is like, so cool. He's a lawyer and shit.have you lost it? LMAO LMAO LMAO

banyon
05-21-2010, 08:24 PM
nope...

the federal government already does not "follow" the laws when it comes to immigration...

scarce resources are always allocated on some basis...

nowadays, if you are not a middle easterner you almost can't get yourself deported (except for convicted felons)...

Not enforcing/enforcing within budgetary constraints isn't arbitrary, it's a practical necessity.

Refusing to take one state's detainees because you're in a pissing contest with them, that's arbitrary.

mikey23545
05-21-2010, 08:28 PM
Wolf Blitzer Exposes Calderon's Border Hypocrisy

Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who has been a vocal critic of the Arizona immigration law during his United States visit, sits down for an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. The two discuss the AZ law and, as usual, Calderon speaks out against it, prompting Blitzer to ask what happens to immigrants who enter Mexico illegally. Calderon is forced to admit that in his country they protect their southern borders, and deport anyone found to be living in Mexico illegally.


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The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 08:35 PM
have you lost it? LMAO LMAO LMAO

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup

banyon
05-21-2010, 08:36 PM
That interview speaks volumes.

Wolf: "Didn't your government issue a travel advisory to your citizens not to visit Arizona?"

Calderon: "Yes that is true."

Wolf: "But if someone has the proper visa travel paperwork, what's the risk to them?"

Calderon: (Evades question, "Let me get back to my prepared points")

This is in sharp contrast to the current US State Dept. Travel Advisory (Note particularly the last paragraph):

http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_4755.html

May 06, 2010

The Department of State has issued this Travel Warning to inform U.S. citizens traveling to and living in Mexico about the security situation in Mexico, and to advise that the authorized departure of family members of U.S. government personnel from U.S. Consulates in the northern Mexico border cities of Tijuana, Nogales, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, Monterrey and Matamoros has been extended. This Travel Warning supersedes the Travel Warning for Mexico dated April 12, 2010 to note the extension of authorized departure and to update guidance on security conditions and crime.

Millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year. This includes tens of thousands who cross the border every day for study, tourism or business and at least one million U.S. citizens who live in Mexico. The Mexican government makes a considerable effort to protect U.S. citizens and other visitors to major tourist destinations. Resort areas and tourist destinations in Mexico do not see the levels of drug-related violence and crime reported in the border region and in areas along major drug trafficking routes. Nevertheless, crime and violence are serious problems. While most victims of violence are Mexican citizens associated with criminal activity, the security situation poses serious risks for U.S. citizens as well.

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U.S. citizens should be alert to pickpockets and general street crime throughout Mexico, but especially in large cities. Between FY 2006 and FY 2009 the number of U.S. passports reported stolen in Mexico rose from 184 to 288.

Demonstrations and Large Public Gatherings

Demonstrations occur frequently throughout Mexico and usually are peaceful. However, even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and escalate to violence unexpectedly. Violent demonstrations have resulted in deaths, including that of an American citizen in Oaxaca in 2006. During demonstrations or law enforcement operations, U.S. citizens are advised to remain in their homes or hotels, avoid large crowds, and avoid the downtown and surrounding areas.

Demonstrators in Mexico may block traffic on roads, including major arteries, or take control of toll-booths on highways. U.S. citizens should avoid confrontations in such situations.

Since the timing and routes of scheduled marches and demonstrations are always subject to change, U.S. citizens should monitor local media sources for new developments and exercise extreme caution while within the vicinity of protests.

The Mexican Constitution prohibits political activities by foreigners, and such actions may result in detention and/or deportation. U.S. citizens are therefore advised to avoid participating in demonstrations or other activities that might be deemed political by Mexican authorities. :cuss:ROFL:mad: As is always the case in any large gathering, U.S. citizens should remain alert to their surroundings.

The Mad Crapper
05-21-2010, 08:38 PM
Ridin' a studbakuh Jim, those were different times

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petegz28
05-21-2010, 09:03 PM
Wolf Blitzer Exposes Calderon's Border Hypocrisy

Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who has been a vocal critic of the Arizona immigration law during his United States visit, sits down for an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. The two discuss the AZ law and, as usual, Calderon speaks out against it, prompting Blitzer to ask what happens to immigrants who enter Mexico illegally. Calderon is forced to admit that in his country they protect their southern borders, and deport anyone found to be living in Mexico illegally.


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So he clearly stated that in Mexico they find illegal immigrants and deport them.

So WTF is he crying about in Arizona??

notorious
05-22-2010, 09:05 AM
So he clearly stated that in Mexico they find illegal immigrants and deport them.

So WTF is he crying about in Arizona??

It's hilarious.

I honestly think that the guys in Washington prompted him to say what he did in his speech. The guy doesn't have a fucking clue.

The Mad Crapper
05-22-2010, 03:20 PM
05/22/2010 07:56 PM ID: 84189 Permalink

Arizona Immigration Bill´s Author Now Wants to End Citizenship by Birthright
Arizona State Sen. Russell Pearce, the author of the controversial state immigration bill, told his constituents that he wants to invalidate the U.S. citizenship of children who were born to illegal immigrants.

He also sent constituents an e-mail he later said he disagrees with. "If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother," it said. Other political leaders have called for an end to birthright citizenship.

Rep. Duncan Hunter of California told a tea party rally he´d support deporting the children of illegal aliens despite their birthright citizenship. And 92 members of Congress sponsored a no-birthright-citizenship bill last year.

Source: news.yahoo.com

BucEyedPea
05-22-2010, 04:11 PM
05/22/2010 07:56 PM ID: 84189 Permalink

Arizona Immigration Bill´s Author Now Wants to End Citizenship by Birthright
Arizona State Sen. Russell Pearce, the author of the controversial state immigration bill, told his constituents that he wants to invalidate the U.S. citizenship of children who were born to illegal immigrants.

He also sent constituents an e-mail he later said he disagrees with. "If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother," it said. Other political leaders have called for an end to birthright citizenship.

Rep. Duncan Hunter of California told a tea party rally he´d support deporting the children of illegal aliens despite their birthright citizenship. And 92 members of Congress sponsored a no-birthright-citizenship bill last year.

Source: news.yahoo.com

I support an end to birthright citizenship but I thought it had to be done at the federal level? I believe Ron Paul sponsored a bill for such. It's going to take an amendment to the Federal Constitution. I don't know how it could only be done at the state level.

The Mad Crapper
05-22-2010, 07:28 PM
The Obama regime’s decision to enforce laws selectively, or refuse to enforce laws it doesn’t like, sets a good precedent for citizens who are chosen for jury duty to trash any Obama-supported law including mandatory participation in health insurance, cap and trade, and gun control. All it takes is for one person who doesn’t like a law to hang a jury, thus wasting whatever resources the government put into the prosecution.

BucEyedPea
05-22-2010, 07:58 PM
The Obama regime’s decision to enforce laws selectively, or refuse to enforce laws it doesn’t like, sets a good precedent for citizens who are chosen for jury duty to trash any Obama-supported law including mandatory participation in health insurance, cap and trade, and gun control. All it takes is for one person who doesn’t like a law to hang a jury, thus wasting whatever resources the government put into the prosecution.

Obama's policies will turn America into a larger Mexico.

|Zach|
05-22-2010, 08:20 PM
Banyon is like, so cool. He's a lawyer and shit.

Don't be upset because some people have jobs that really old people and new college grads can't take.

The Mad Crapper
05-22-2010, 08:22 PM
http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Obama_Coin_ExactChange_160.gif

Hopey Change™

googlegoogle
05-22-2010, 10:18 PM
Arizona needs to just secede from the Union and employ their own military.

This is just another example of Federal failure.

googlegoogle
05-22-2010, 10:20 PM
So he clearly stated that in Mexico they find illegal immigrants and deport them.

So WTF is he crying about in Arizona??


Liberal socialists don't care. They sold out to Mexico years ago.

pr_capone
05-22-2010, 10:33 PM
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For the tl;dr crowd... cliffnotes.


Pres. Calderon: Illegal Immigrants basic human rights are being violated by AZ's law. "That law is not a solution at all."

Wolf Blitzer: Do police in Mexico check for documentation at border towns?

Pres. Calderon: Yes

Wolf Blitzer: Pres. Calderon, if someone were to sneak in the southern border of Mexico, they could go get a job and live life as a citizen?

Pres. Calderon: Erm, no. They have to fill out paper work so we can do a back ground check.

Wolf Blitzer: What happens to those people who sneak into Mexico?

Pres. Calderon: They get deported. But hey, at least we don't chuck them in prison anymore!