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Count Alex's Losses
06-03-2010, 12:46 AM
Fucking ow. I would have gone after the personal property of any kid who did this to me.

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=11452052


Dylan, a 13-year-old honor student from Johnson County, does not want you to know his real name.

He's terribly embarrassed about what happened to him at school.

But Dylan does want you to know his painful story, and he recently came to WTHR studios to share it.

"This boy, he just walked up to me and just hit me," Dylan said. "I fell to the floor. I was crying it hurt so bad because he actually punched me."

It's where Dylan was punched that might surprise you.

It's a topic many school officials don't want to talk about.

Most parents have no idea it's happening.

And the images are painful to watch.

Because some students are being severely injured, 13 Investigates is tackling this sensitive issue to help warn both students and parents about a disturbing game taking place in many area schools.

"Happening all the time"

The game involves hitting or kicking male students in the groin - often very hard - and school officials say it has a name.

"The boys call it ‘ball tapping,' explains Bev Richardson, a school nurse at North Putnam Middle School. "I see it and I can't believe what they do to each other sometimes."

Richardson knows all about this problem. She says not long ago, ball tapping at her school was out of control.

"The boys were saying it is happening all the time... hit in the testicles. I was seeing at least four students a week with this happening," Richardson said. "The pain gets so bad, they just can't stand it, so that's when they come for medical attention."

At times, she admits, that medical attention is more than a school nurse can provide.

"I remember one boy, he was in agony when he came to me," Richardson recalls. "When he mentioned blood in the urine, I knew there was something really going on because that's not a typical thing I would be told by a student."

That student was taken to a hospital where doctors diagnosed him with a severe injury. Medical experts say the problem is very real.

[B]Devastating injuries

"We've actually had a child here at Riley Hospital that required surgical excision of the testicle after that happened," said Martin Kaefer, a pediatric urologist at Indiana's largest children's hospital. "The cases we generally will see are the kids in which they've taken a big hit from another child snapping their wrist, hitting the genital area of the male. Those are pretty big injuries."

Kaefer sees the impact of ball tapping, and he says the name is very misleading.

"The term ‘tapping' makes it sound very benign, as if it's just a little tap and that's far from the truth," Kaefer said. "If you fracture the testicle and literally rupture it, that results in pretty significant short-term and long-term problems, and we've seen this at Riley Hospital. It's really quite devastating."

The doctor says even minor injuries associated with ball tapping include terrible pain, which may subside after ten to twenty minutes. Continued pain, difficulty urinating or blood in the urine can be warning signs of a much more serious injury involving not just the testicles, but also damage to the urethra. Kaefer says those injuries require very complicated surgery -- something he's had to perform even on a kindergarten student victimized at school.

"That's for a five-year-old, and that can affect fertility and passage of urine - let alone the physical impact of a child having that part of their body operated on as such a young age," the doctor explained. "I would say it's a pretty bullying action to hurt a child in that fashion."

Caught on video

While ball tapping often is intended as a form of bullying and intimidation, that is not how it's characterized on the internet, where videotaped ball tapping incidents are publicly posted and often glorified.

Dozens of videos on YouTube show youngsters being ambushed with unsuspecting victims falling to the ground in agony while perpetrators and bystanders laugh in the background. Other videos show groups of boys engaged in a ball tapping game, where the goal is to hit opponents in the groin before they hit you. In online discussions, kids refer to the videos as "cool" and "hilarious."

Victims like Dylan see it differently.

"It's not just like horseplay or playing around," he said with tears in his eyes. "It's serious."

Richardson agrees.

"When they come to me, they're doubled over and crying," she said. "It takes a while before that pain goes away enough that they can go back to class ... and there's really nothing I can do for them. I've tried ice packs, but it doesn't really help."

Boys being boys?

Terry Tippin believes ball tapping cannot be ignored.

When he became principal at North Putnam Middle School three years ago, Tippin was shocked to learn just how much ball tapping was taking place. The first time he saw it, the principal decided to call in police.

"They treated it as an assault case. The prosecutor interviewed the parents and the students, and once that word got out, I really haven't had any trouble since," Tippin said. "I just won't tolerate somebody putting their hands on somebody else."

But that doesn't happen in all schools.

Dylan, who was ball tapped earlier this year in a locker room after his sixth-grade gym class, says the classmate who hit him in the groin received no punishment.

"The school waited two days before they even called me and told me about it," said his mother. "They told me it happens a lot and it's just boys being boys, but it's really assault on a student. If that boy hit my son in the mouth, he would have gotten an out-of-school suspension. I don't know why this is any different."

Keeping quiet

Dylan's story is not isolated.

For this report, 13 Investigates talked with students from eight metro-area middle and high schools. Students at six of those schools said they had personally witnessed ball tapping during school hours. They also said most of the incidents go unreported by students.

Richardson says that's concerning, but not surprising.

"A lot of times they're embarrassed by it because it hurts and they can't help but cry, and then they're crying in front of all their classmates," she said. "They need to tell someone that this happening to them ... and most parents don't know it's happening."

How do you find out if it's happening?

Simply ask your kids.

Yes, it might seem like a difficult topic of conversation, but Richardson says it doesn't have to be.

Time to talk

"Ask your child: 'Has this ever happened to you?' or 'Have you seen it happen?' or maybe a little more generic 'Do you know anything about this?'" she suggests. "If it's going on at school, they're pretty willing to talk about it - once someone else brings it up."

Kaefer recommends parents begin the dialogue early.

"Repetition and starting early is important because, especially the younger ones, they don't always understand the impact of what they're doing," he said.

The doctor says it's a conversation he's started with his own five children.

"I tell them 'hitting in the genital region in particular is completely inappropriate' and also explain to them in the same breath 'the same is true about your back and kidneys.' Don't simply focus on that one area so it's not an uncomfortable conversation for the parent. Say 'these are the areas that can really get damaged and if they do, it's not just that it hurts right away. You can hurt another child forever."

QuikSsurfer
06-03-2010, 12:50 AM
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Silock
06-03-2010, 12:53 AM
Kids are fucking stupid.

BryanBusby
06-03-2010, 12:53 AM
Ball tapping? Ugh.

I can't say too much though, as the game when I was in school was to stealth run up and slap someone on the ass as hard as you could. Pretty stupid, but at least none of us peed blood afterward.

CrazyPhuD
06-03-2010, 01:04 AM
Dude his is messed up besides we only played this game with girls when I was growing up. We called it Cooter catching.

Pablo
06-03-2010, 01:08 AM
This happened when I was in middle school.

Anybody remember "snap dragons"?

QuikSsurfer
06-03-2010, 01:49 AM
This happened when I was in middle school.

Anybody remember "snap dragons"?

wtf is a snap dragon?

Pablo
06-03-2010, 01:56 AM
wtf is a snap dragon?

Locker room towel snapping aimed at the nuts.

That's what it was called round these parts anyhow.

SLAG
06-03-2010, 02:02 AM
Ball tapping? Ugh.

I can't say too much though, as the game when I was in school was to stealth run up and slap someone on the ass as hard as you could. Pretty stupid, but at least none of us peed blood afterward.

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bevischief
06-03-2010, 07:13 AM
rochambeau

Dayze
06-03-2010, 08:30 AM
if that happened to me, I'd take the proper amount of time to recover, then proceed to break his leg at the knee cap with a baseball bat.

DaKCMan AP
06-03-2010, 08:33 AM
Rochambeau?

BigRedChief
06-03-2010, 08:33 AM
This is a nation wide social thing. How did it ever get to be a cool thing to do?

DaKCMan AP
06-03-2010, 08:34 AM
This is a nation wide social thing. How did it ever get to be a cool thing to do?

The same way these became cool?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Zubazbang2008.jpg

loochy
06-03-2010, 08:36 AM
if that happened to me, I'd take the proper amount of time to recover, then proceed to break his leg at the knee cap with a baseball bat.

This. How can you just let someone hit you in the nuts!?!? Someone would be damn near dead if that happened to me.

Marcellus
06-03-2010, 08:39 AM
Cup check?

This isn't anything new really.

loochy
06-03-2010, 09:22 AM
Cup check?

This isn't anything new really.

This sounds like more than a little cup check. These were full on punches man.

Gracie Dean
06-03-2010, 10:25 AM
gosucks...you have to have em for them to hurt... Just saying :shrug:



In our school, this was a popular game. We shut it down but it happens all over the place. They know not to do it in classrooms or where teachers are around in the hallways. Another "fun" thing to do is body jumping. We actually had to close the boys RR in one area because they would drag them in the RR and then a group of guys would get another one in the middle and all would Jump (sandwich) another.

Gracie Dean
06-03-2010, 10:25 AM
WE actually pulled the sexual harrassment card if we caught boys "tapping" each other

Jilly
06-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Tosh.0 and Web Soup have vids all the time of grown men making a hobby out of it...hitting themselves with rocks, baseballs, etc. It seems so ridiculous and can cause long term damage, even infertility. I don't have balls, so I don't know how much it hurts, all I know is if I accidentally, slightly bump my husbands nuts, I hear about it for an hour after, sometimes days.

Mr. Laz
06-03-2010, 10:36 AM
we used to do this too back when i was in school but we didn't do it that hard ... it was just a backhand "snap". More funny than painful, although it didn't feel good. :shrug:

teedubya
06-03-2010, 10:47 AM
Yeah, I s'pose if this were happening at my school, I'd be wearing a cup full-time.

booger
06-03-2010, 10:48 AM
gochiefs must have googled little boys with sore balls again

Dayze
06-03-2010, 12:19 PM
This. How can you just let someone hit you in the nuts!?!? Someone would be damn near dead if that happened to me.

oh, and I forgot; after the dude is thriving /crying out in pain while holding his permanently disfigured shattered leg etc...

I'd shout over him "Stay down B9tch"

Saulbadguy
06-03-2010, 12:22 PM
Tosh.0 and Web Soup have vids all the time of grown men making a hobby out of it...hitting themselves with rocks, baseballs, etc. It seems so ridiculous and can cause long term damage, even infertility. I don't have balls, so I don't know how much it hurts, all I know is if I accidentally, slightly bump my husbands nuts, I hear about it for an hour after, sometimes days.

hmmm....

Saulbadguy
06-03-2010, 12:22 PM
This is a nation wide social thing. How did it ever get to be a cool thing to do?

Ever watch someone get hit in the coin purse? It's hilarious.

Dave Lane
06-03-2010, 12:27 PM
we used to do this too back when i was in school but we didn't do it that hard ... it was just a backhand "snap". More funny than painful, although it didn't feel good. :shrug:

Yeah me too. Sometimes it stung for 5 mins or something.

Jethopper
06-03-2010, 12:33 PM
The same way these became cool?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Zubazbang2008.jpg

Wow guy in the middle. Army hat, Mustache, Iron Maiden shirt, Zoombas and he's 5'5''..... Hamas?

kysirsoze
06-03-2010, 12:41 PM
This sounds like more than a little cup check. These were full on punches man.

Yeah, I remember ball tapping a little bit but it was just that. Tapping. I don't recall people thinking it's cool to punch somebody else in the balls. Not to mention.... 5 year olds!?! WTF???

If my kids school said him getting hit in the nuts was "boys being boys" I would be calling a lawyer.

RedNFeisty
06-03-2010, 12:50 PM
This. How can you just let someone hit you in the nuts!?!? Someone would be damn near dead if that happened to me.

The entire time I was reading this I thought about my nine yr old son, I would be outraged. He would ask me what an acceptable recourse would be, I would say get them off school grounds and beat the hell out of them, then explaining that is a nice thought, but not correct, the police should be called and an assault be reported.

Sounds like in the case of Dylan, it was bullying and not a game being played. The parents should have called the police.

Jenson71
06-03-2010, 01:02 PM
Tosh.0 and Web Soup have vids all the time of grown men making a hobby out of it...hitting themselves with rocks, baseballs, etc. It seems so ridiculous and can cause long term damage, even infertility. I don't have balls, so I don't know how much it hurts, all I know is if I accidentally, slightly bump my husbands nuts, I hear about it for an hour after, sometimes days.

There's a whole fetish of it, and a deviant practice of it. Women kicking/kneeing/attacking men. David Sedaris had an essay mentioning it in his Me Talk Pretty One Day. It's like dominatrix Plus.

MOhillbilly
06-03-2010, 01:03 PM
this is what happens when kids cant carry knives to school anymore.

kysirsoze
06-03-2010, 01:08 PM
this is what happens when kids cant carry knives to school anymore.

Well it beats ballstabbing.

MOhillbilly
06-03-2010, 01:14 PM
Buck knife on the belt & you will take notice.

booger
06-03-2010, 01:26 PM
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KCChiefsMan
06-03-2010, 01:32 PM
jeeez. What ever happened to towel snapping?

healthpellets
06-03-2010, 01:48 PM
nobody remember this?

"hey man, you got a sleeping bag?"

"ya, why?"

*ball tap!*

"thought i'd wake it up for you."

we were about the public pool and one of our friends ball tapped my friend. probably a little harder than he should have. later on, my friend swam under water and found that kid. grabbed whatever he could and twisted and pulled until he thought he felt something snap. kid pissed blood for a good five minutes.

and that's why you don't stay 13 years old forever. or we'd all be dead.

Pablo
06-03-2010, 03:33 PM
Sounds like in the case of Dylan, it was bullying and not a game being played. The parents should have called the police.I'm sure cops love fielding calls of assault because some dumb-ass kids are ball-tapping and bullying each other.

JFC.

This is America. If someone balltaps you, get the motherfucker back or bust their nose. If you're getting bullied; grow a pair and spaz out and fuck some foks up or something. We had a kid that got bullied in our class until he stabbed another kid in the arm with a pair of scissors. No more bullying problems for him. Nobody messes with psycho kids. Don't run and tell the principal or the cops unless you want to raise a society of even more litigious douchebags that complain how hot coffee is or claim workmans comp because they hurt their index finger stacking jars of pickles at WalMart.

In the words of Marshall Mathers:

What ever happened to a good ol' fashioned passionate ass whoopin and gettin your shoes, coat and your hat tooken?

tooge
06-03-2010, 03:51 PM
I dont care how "cool" it is. I don't and won't ever touch another guys junk. If some homo assed punk hit me in the junk I'd go mideival on his ass. I will teach my son to do the same.

MOhillbilly
06-03-2010, 04:53 PM
I dont care how "cool" it is. I don't and won't ever touch another guys junk. If some homo assed punk hit me in the junk I'd go mideival on his ass. I will teach my son to do the same.

mideival on his ass, huh?

RedNFeisty
06-03-2010, 05:56 PM
I'm sure cops love fielding calls of assault because some dumb-ass kids are ball-tapping and bullying each other.

JFC.

This is America. If someone balltaps you, get the mother****er back or bust their nose. If you're getting bullied; grow a pair and spaz out and **** some foks up or something. We had a kid that got bullied in our class until he stabbed another kid in the arm with a pair of scissors. No more bullying problems for him. Nobody messes with psycho kids. Don't run and tell the principal or the cops unless you want to raise a society of even more litigious douchebags that complain how hot coffee is or claim workmans comp because they hurt their index finger stacking jars of pickles at WalMart.

In the words of Marshall Mathers:

What ever happened to a good ol' fashioned passionate ass whoopin and gettin your shoes, coat and your hat tooken?

My son is perfectly capable of delivering an ass whoopin', he is encouraged to handle bullies with his fists. However, if a child is left with blood in his urine there is a line to be drawn and the law needs to be brought in.

Not to mention my luck, my son would kick said ball tappers ass, then said ball tapper's parents would call the police on my son for kicking their ball tapping son's ass. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.