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Fritz88
06-03-2010, 06:59 PM
If repost then you can lick Sofa's middle testicle.

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A bird is mired in oil on the beach at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast on Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

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A Brown Pelican sits in heavy oil on the beach at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #
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A pair of Brown Pelicans, covered in oil, sit on the beach at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast, Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #
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A sea bird soaked in oil sits in the surf at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #
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A brown pelican is seen on the beach at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast on Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #
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A bird covered in oil flails in the surf at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #
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A brown pelican is mired in heavy oil on the beach at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast on Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #
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A brown pelican covered in oil sits on the beach at East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast on Thursday, June 3, 2010. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel) #

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html

WhitiE
06-03-2010, 07:48 PM
poor stupid birds

Buck
06-03-2010, 07:49 PM
Man that is so fucked up. We pretty much fucked the entire planet. Great going, humans.

Brianfo
06-03-2010, 07:51 PM
This is not good. Someone needs to be held accountable.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 07:53 PM
Im sooo stoked that BP is still gonna pay 10 Billion in dividends!! That's awesome!!

Fucking oil companies. Fuck this shit.

I can't wait until a Hurricane brings all those chemicals and oil across the mainland. It's gonna rock.

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 07:54 PM
They're fucking birds, not people. Don't be ridiculous.

Buck
06-03-2010, 07:55 PM
They're fucking birds, not people. Don't be ridiculous.

Really dude? Thats pretty ignorant of you.

CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 07:56 PM
I can't wait until a Hurricane brings all those chemicals and oil across the mainland. It's gonna rock.

:shake:

Why in gawd's name would that rock?

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 07:57 PM
Really dude? Thats pretty ignorant of you.

Spare me. Birds suffer and die every day. In far worse ways.

IT'S A FUCKING BIRD! COME ON! Don't be a baby.

CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 07:57 PM
Really dude? Thats pretty ignorant of you.

He's trying to be cool and just doesn't get it.

QuikSsurfer
06-03-2010, 07:58 PM
Spare me. Birds suffer and die every day. In far worse ways.

IT'S A FUCKING BIRD! COME ON! Don't be a baby.

You can't be serious.. I'm sure you're aware that this oil spill is affecting more than just brown pelicans..

Buck
06-03-2010, 07:58 PM
Spare me. Birds suffer and die every day. In far worse ways.

IT'S A FUCKING BIRD! COME ON! Don't be a baby.

Its not just about the birds.

Its about the whole fucking ecosystem. You think this is just affecting birds? Well you are wrong.

Also those birds didn't deserve this either.

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 07:59 PM
Have you ever eaten a bird?

YOU BASTARD!

teedubya
06-03-2010, 08:00 PM
:shake:

Why in gawd's name would that rock?

Did I really need to put a /sarcasm on that? Wasn't it sarcastic enough?

BossChief
06-03-2010, 08:00 PM
Yeah, GoChiefs...its just the birds in the pictures that suffer in this case.

Whats worse is the solutions these fuckwads are proposing to solve the problem.

Nuthooks are definitely in order.

CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 08:02 PM
Did I really need to put a /sarcasm on that? Wasn't it sarcastic enough?

Yeah dude, you did. It sure the phuck didn't come off as sarcasm.

Don't cover it up by acting like your original rant was sarcastic.

CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 08:03 PM
Have you ever eaten a bird?

YOU BASTARD!

Dude, did your mommy not love you enough?

Brianfo
06-03-2010, 08:03 PM
They're ****ing birds, not people. Don't be ridiculous.

Your and idiot.

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 08:05 PM
Let me tell you something about birds in oil.




































They are fucking delicious.

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teedubya
06-03-2010, 08:06 PM
Yeah dude, you did. It sure the phuck didn't come off as sarcasm.

Don't cover it up by acting like your original rant was sarcastic.

Fucking Oil Companies. Fuck them. That wasn't clear?

Buck
06-03-2010, 08:09 PM
Heres a quote about a 1991 oil spill that was roughly twice the size of the current one.

The long term effects were very significant. There was no shoreline cleanup, essentially, over the 800 kilometers that the oil – - in Saudi Arabia. And so when we went back in to do quantitative survey in 2002 and 2003, there was a million cubic meters of oil sediment remained then 12 years after the spill.... [T]he oil penetrated much more deeply into the intertidal sediment than normal because those sediments there have a lot of crab burrows, and the oil penetrated deep, sometimes 30, 40 centimeters, you know a couple of feet, into the mud of these tidal flats. There’s no way to get it out now. So it has had long term impact.

This was written 12 years after the fact.

This oil spill isn't going to go away any time soon.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 08:11 PM
If/when it hits that loop current. Shit is ****ed.

http://mobilelocalsocial.com/2010/bp-gulf-oil-spill-may-spread-to-atlantic-coast/

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CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 08:12 PM
****ing Oil Companies. **** them. That wasn't clear?

Did I respond to that? Nope.

If you look at the original reply, I responded to your last sentence:
I can't wait until a Hurricane brings all those chemicals and oil across the mainland. It's gonna rock.

I'm sorry, but if you're being sarcastic about that- then you need to turn your sarcasm dial down quite a bit, because sarcasm or not- that's an asshole thing to say. Why? 'Cause in case you hadn't noticed, I live in Florida and they're calling for a busy hurricane season and that shit's going to be all over my yard.

And the next time you want to be sarcastic, try adding an emoticon like this: :D

teedubya
06-03-2010, 08:14 PM
Did I respond to that? Nope.

If you look at the original reply, I responded to your last sentence:
I can't wait until a Hurricane brings all those chemicals and oil across the mainland. It's gonna rock.

I'm sorry, but if you're being sarcastic about that- then you need to turn your sarcasm dial down quite a bit, because sarcasm or not- that's an asshole thing to say. Why? 'Cause in case you hadn't noticed, I live in Florida and they're calling for a busy hurricane season and that shit's going to be all over my yard.

And the next time you want to be sarcastic, try adding an emoticon like this: :D

The shit is obviously not going to rock. If you had read anything I've written in the other thread, You'd know my anger.

in fact, I think this could threaten the future of humanity.

Sure-Oz
06-03-2010, 08:16 PM
Did these fuckers not watch the saved by the bell episode about the football field and how they drilled oil and fucked over the pond with the animals??? none of this shit wouldve ever happend.

CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 08:20 PM
The shit is obviously not going to rock. If you had read anything I've written in the other thread, You'd know my anger.

in fact, I think this could threaten the future of humanity.

My sincerest apologies then if you were being sarcastic. As you can tell from my response, I'm pretty pissed about the oil spill too. I took your quote out of context and combined with GoChief's dumbass comments- I went off.

Lastly, this is an internet board- not everyone is going to read your sarcasm meter. I don't read every thread, so I don't have an idea how you behaved or what you might have said in another thread. Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding...

Sure-Oz
06-03-2010, 08:28 PM
Teedubya posted pics on his twitter in a serious manner

-King-
06-03-2010, 08:33 PM
Oli Oli Oxen Free

teedubya
06-03-2010, 08:35 PM
Teedubya posted pics on his twitter in a serious manner

Thanks for the play-by-play. Nice job on the 150 followers, btw. :D

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 08:41 PM
I think this could threaten the future of humanity.

You're a dumbass.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 08:51 PM
You're a dumbass.

Think of the food chain, dumbass.

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 08:57 PM
Think of the food chain, dumbass.

Dude, this is not going to threaten the future of humanity.

I swear, every time something like this happens, people blow it out of proportion.

Bleeding hearts, all over the place.

OH NOES GLOBAL WARMING!

Buck
06-03-2010, 09:00 PM
Dude, this is not going to threaten the future of humanity.

I swear, every time something like this happens, people blow it out of proportion.

Bleeding hearts, all over the place.

OH NOES GLOBAL WARMING!

Lets all go pour crude oil all over Clay's house inside and out, on all his food in the fridge, all his money, all his possessions, and then him, and then lets see if he complains or not.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 09:01 PM
No Buck, he would just go on an eleven billionty day fast!!

Buck
06-03-2010, 09:02 PM
No Buck, he would just go on an eleven billionty day fast!!

Eleventy billion, retard.

-King-
06-03-2010, 09:04 PM
No Buck, he would just go on an eleven billionty day fast!!

ROFLROFL:doh!:

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 09:05 PM
Lets all go pour crude oil all over Clay's house inside and out, on all his food in the fridge, all his money, all his possessions, and then him, and then lets see if he complains or not.

Are you saying I'm as dumb as a pelican?

The reason that pelican is covered in oil is because it's a dumb bird.

And if you shed tears for that pelican, you are a dumb human.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 09:07 PM
Eleventy billion, retard.

Nope, this is longer.

RedNeckRaider
06-03-2010, 09:08 PM
I am not angry just sad. This will impact us for years and years. It is time to play politics and pin this on whoever. I hear this is Barry' Katrina...well f&ck all that this is just tragic~

vailpass
06-03-2010, 09:08 PM
Shit happens, it will all go away with time.

CosmicPal
06-03-2010, 09:11 PM
Are you saying I'm as dumb as a pelican?

The reason that pelican is covered in oil is because it's a dumb bird.

And if you shed tears for that pelican, you are a dumb human.

The Gulf is a large region, but its natural importance is even more outsized, disproportionate to its area. The Gulf is the hourglass pinch-point for millions of migrating creatures that funnel into, breed in, migrate through and then fan out of it to populate an enormous area of the continents and coasts. Anything that affects living things inside the Gulf affects living things far outside it.

Certain animals that normally inhabit the open Atlantic travel to the Gulf to breed. Two such species, both endangered, breed nowhere else. The world's most endangered sea turtle, the Kemp's ridley turtle, ranges throughout the west Atlantic as far north as New England. But it breeds only in the Gulf. Many are now heading there to lay their eggs on remote beaches. Turtles are showing up on beaches debilitated by oil.

Oil kills sea turtles by both ingestion and direct toxicity, and by stressing and suppressing their immune systems. Adults are vulnerable, but hatchlings will have an even harder time.

Atlantic bluefin tuna -- the most high-priced ocean fish in the world -- have declined by about 90 percent since the 1960s due to overfishing. Their west Atlantic population ranges the East Coast of the U.S. and Canada and far out to sea, but the Gulf of Mexico is the giant fish's only known breeding area. Spring is their breeding season.

Dispersant, which is toxic by itself, also makes the petroleum more toxic. Instead of remaining concentrated at the surface, dispersed oil pollutes the entire water column. Instead of evaporating, the toxic components remain in the water. And because it's dissolved, it passes more easily across gills and into digestive systems. Planktonic animals become disoriented or die.

Meanwhile, of course, mats of oil are washing ashore. No amount of boom will protect waterbirds like pelicans, gulls and terns, because diving into the water for fish is how they eat. In the Gulf in May, with the oil gushing, were loons, gannets, various kinds of herons and terns. Also there were black skimmers that had spent the winter there but would soon leave to migrate north and, depending on species, breed all along the coast from the southern states to as far north as the Maritimes, and lakes across much of Canada.

Some of the longest-distance migrants on Earth are various sandpipers, plovers and other shorebirds, many of which winter as far south as Patagonia and breed as far north as the high arctic. Perhaps a million cross the Gulf in May, and when they reach the U.S. coastline, they must stop to rest and feed. Problems with habitat and food supply have reduced many of their populations 50 to 80 percent in the past 20 years. And now this. When oil was just starting to smudge some of the birds on beaches now thick with it, I saw sanderlings, ruddy turnstones, black-bellied plovers and other such northbound birds.

Even among those that do not get heavily oiled, many will not make it. The birds' energy budgets operate on thin margins of food intake against exhaustive expenditure in long-distance flight. They will not bear the additional cost of feathers sticking and functioning inefficiently, and many such birds will drop out on their way north.

Migrating peregrine falcons traveling north from South American wintering areas, destined for nesting areas as far as Greenland, are also crossing the Gulf's marshes. Preferentially picking off birds whose flight seems compromised, falcons will be getting disproportional doses of oil.

All these birds can live decades and take years to mature, so adult birds killed by oil this year will mean populations reduced for years to come. This is a calamity not just in space but in time as well.

Some animals may be rescued. Less possible to cleanse is the anguish on the faces and in the hearts of fishing families. Oil companies can drill, and they can buy votes in Congress, but apparently they can't do much else.

Now that the reckoning is here, it becomes a little easier to see that we fool ourselves with the apparent cheapness of subsidized oil and that a healthy environment is priceless beyond reckoning.

Why do we fail to know this always, in our bones? The Gulf is not a thing unto itself. Neither is the oil eruption. We are all Gulf victims now.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/06/03/safina.gulf.wildlife.impact/index.html?hpt=Mid

KCChiefsMan
06-03-2010, 09:11 PM
I feel bad for those who don't feel sorrow from those pictures.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 09:22 PM
The chemicals and oil could really fuck up plankton... if the plankton die, the whole ecosystem will get fucked.

And if this thing makes it to the loop current, which it will... holy shit.

crispystl420
06-03-2010, 09:34 PM
The chemicals and oil could really **** up plankton... if the plankton die, the whole ecosystem will get ****ed.

And if this thing makes it to the loop current, which it will... holy shit.

It's a nightmare, and if I were GoChiefs I wouldn't tempt fate.

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 10:01 PM
Gotta admit some of these are pretty funny.

http://www.logomyway.com/contestView.php?contestId=1746

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teedubya
06-03-2010, 10:27 PM
heh

Chiefs Rool
06-03-2010, 10:38 PM
I have a strong feeling that this will have a much greater impact than they are telling us and that we could imagine.

CaliforniaChief
06-03-2010, 10:38 PM
I'm far from chicken little when it comes to the environment. I think global warming is a complete fraud and people get so wound up over things that aren't what they proclaim them to be.

But this is horrible.

You have more oil in the gulf than anybody knows, potentially getting into a current that's going to spread it into the Atlantic. Dispersants are only being used to conceal the true size of this disaster, and there's no credible evidence to suggest that they have a realistic plan to stop it. The attempts they are making really are just ways to show us that they're trying...probably just to prevent riots.

They don't know how to stop it and every day more and more of this stuff is being pumped into the Gulf. The effect this will have on the local economy, which cannot afford it to begin with, could be catastrophic.

And unfortunately the game of avoiding blame takes precedence over finding solutions, which compounds the problem.

tinfoil
06-03-2010, 11:06 PM
Put on your reynolds wrap hat... and watch this.

BP Connects the last dot.

youtube.com/watch?v=sF5L_-uhrrM#t=01m21s



EDIT: Not able to embed it. Sorry.

rwalke10
06-03-2010, 11:07 PM
I was out south today...A BP station had unleaded for 2.41 a gallon. Station was dead empty. Across the street, the Conoco had unleaded for 2.54 a gallon. Every pump was full.

The clearest analogy to me is this...deep drilling in the Gulf is kinda like the Airlines. Gotta have it, but even ONE disaster is too many. This can't be all that hard to do...Hydraulics is Hydraulics last time I checked. But the thing that gets me the most is, why weren't those bleeder wells in place *before* they ever opened the well in the first place. Every water heater (most common pressure vessel in any home in the US) has a popoff valve as standard equipment. Why not oil wells? Especially ones that will mess things up 10^ past holy f***???

Gracie Dean
06-03-2010, 11:28 PM
GoChiefs
Bring the oil. Pelican fry!

The douche wants the Pelicans to fry in oil GRRR

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 11:30 PM
How else would you suggest we fry them?

teedubya
06-03-2010, 11:36 PM
GoChiefs has this annoying habit of trying to always make situations about himself. It's a fragile ego, that is now misguided with his weight loss, he hasn't completely adjusted.

There is still hope that he shakes off the doucheness, one of these days.

Count Alex's Wins
06-03-2010, 11:40 PM
Oh, shut the fuck up. This has nothing to do with me. Just an (admittedly) aggressive response to a bunch of bleeding hearts feeling sorry for a bunch of fucking birds.

You're all quite hilarious.

The complete overreaction to this oil incident is ridiculous. In a year it won't matter.

teedubya
06-03-2010, 11:50 PM
Oh, shut the **** up. This has nothing to do with me. Just an (admittedly) aggressive response to a bunch of bleeding hearts feeling sorry for a bunch of ****ing birds.

You're all quite hilarious.

The complete overreaction to this oil incident is ridiculous. In a year it won't matter.

Do you think that ONLY birds are affected here? Really? This isn't even the tip of the iceberg, bro.

teedubya
06-04-2010, 12:00 AM
Put on your reynolds wrap hat... and watch this.

BP Connects the last dot.

youtube.com/watch?v=sF5L_-uhrrM

It doesn't look like you are very good at the interwebs, dude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5L_-uhrrM#t=01m21s

I have to say, this is a bizarre thing. If something happens in Nebraska or Kansas like the video says... then this may be on to something.

definitely WTFish.

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 12:10 AM
Oh, shut the **** up. This has nothing to do with me. Just an (admittedly) aggressive response to a bunch of bleeding hearts feeling sorry for a bunch of ****ing birds.

You're all quite hilarious.

The complete overreaction to this oil incident is ridiculous. In a year it won't matter.

and this, douchebag, explains all we need to know about your mentality!

Pants
06-04-2010, 12:12 AM
Goat, you fail at being Donger. Sorry.

88TG88
06-04-2010, 12:17 AM
Shit happens, it will all go away with time.

this

Reaper16
06-04-2010, 12:21 AM
Goat, you fail at being Donger. Sorry.
Isn't that a good thing?

Ebolapox
06-04-2010, 01:12 AM
you're a fucking assclown, GC. you made more sense when you were talking up nick athan.

BWillie
06-04-2010, 01:25 AM
So doesn't the ocean start on fire if you dropped a match?

Over-Head
06-04-2010, 06:10 AM
Spare me. Birds suffer and die every day. In far worse ways.

IT'S A ****ING BIRD! COME ON! Don't be a baby.
And so do fucken retards like you, so tell you parents not to cry when I shoot your dumb ass. 4321

Over-Head
06-04-2010, 06:14 AM
Lets all go pour crude oil all over Clay's house inside and out, on all his food in the fridge, all his money, all his possessions, and then him, and then lets see if he complains or not.
He probably would thats the sad part

Over-Head
06-04-2010, 06:21 AM
Oh, shut the **** up. This has nothing to do with me. Just an (admittedly) aggressive response to a bunch of bleeding hearts feeling sorry for a bunch of ****ing birds.

You're all quite hilarious.

The complete overreaction to this oil incident is ridiculous. In a year it won't matter.
Ya know Goat, just when think it would be impossible for even you, to achieve a new level of dickheaddedness, you manage to sit at your keyboard and prove me wrong time after time.
I pray I meet you in person some day, just to kick you in the balls you fucken asshole

Brianfo
06-04-2010, 06:41 AM
Ya know Goat, just when think it would be impossible for even you, to achieve a new level of dickheaddedness, you manage to sit at your keyboard and prove me wrong time after time.
I pray I meet you in person some day, just to kick you in the balls you ****en asshole

This

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 07:29 AM
This is horrible. To be sure. I sure hope the people crying about this do not use fossil fuels to power their vehicles or their home...

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 07:35 AM
Think of the food chain, dumbass.I didnt know Swine, Cattle, and Chicken came from the Gulf...

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 07:38 AM
in fact, I think this could threaten the future of humanity.You're a fucking moron...

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 07:43 AM
JFC, this isnt a fucking Nuclear holocaust. The Earth will rectify itself. We, humans, will one day become Crude oil. Take a pill...

Pants
06-04-2010, 09:37 AM
This is horrible. To be sure. I sure hope the people crying about this do not use fossil fuels to power their vehicles or their home...

Are there any viable alternatives?

Molitoth
06-04-2010, 09:47 AM
http://www.logomyway.com//logos_new/BP_1746/thumb/bp_fish.jpg
classic!

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 09:50 AM
JFC, this isnt a fucking Nuclear holocaust. The Earth will rectify itself. We, humans, will one day become Crude oil. Take a pill...

Yeah but we have to help birds live better lives.

Especially if we're going to eat them.

Reaper16
06-04-2010, 09:59 AM
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Detoxing
06-04-2010, 11:30 AM
That really sucks. Kinda hard to look at it.

And GoChiefs, you jackass, the difference between "birds dying everyday" and this, is that this is death to wildlife because of human negligence of the environment for greed. Not natural causes. Dumbass.

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 12:23 PM
That really sucks. Kinda hard to look at it.

And GoChiefs, you jackass, the difference between "birds dying everyday" and this, is that this is death to wildlife because of human negligence of the environment for greed. Not natural causes. Dumbass.Greed? Maybe. To drive our cars, transport food and other important goods, to cool and heat our homes, to power the computer you are viewing this on? Certainly. Look, this is a mess. Its horrible. But fossil fuels are a way of life for a vast portion of this planet. You have to take the good with the bad. I'd love to have a pure electric, or hydrogen cell car, but I'm not made of money. I suppose we could stop drilling on the Ocean floor altogether and pay $10/gal. for gas...

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-04-2010, 12:31 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/2wd6a93.jpg

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 12:35 PM
Greed? Maybe. To drive our cars, transport food and other important goods, to cool and heat our homes, to power the computer you are viewing this on? Certainly. Look, this is a mess. Its horrible. But fossil fuels are a way of life for a vast portion of this planet. You have to take the good with the bad. I'd love to have a pure electric, or hydrogen cell car, but I'm not made of money. I suppose we could stop drilling on the Ocean floor altogether and pay $10/gal. for gas...

Of course. Im arguing about that. But it doesn't make it any less unfortunate that this happened.

It sucks for the wildlife that this accident happened. Im not going to sit here like dumbass GoChiefs and act like this isn't an unfortunate event. It's terrible that this happened. Acting like it isn't in order to look more "macho" is pretty lame.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 12:42 PM
It's definitely an unfortunate event. Unfortunately the liberal media loves to use pictures of po widdle birds to tug at heartstrings and make everything seem like it's worse than it actually is.

Sure is dramatic, though!

FAX
06-04-2010, 12:44 PM
I just got off the phone with some people in Destin who are organizing current and future cleanup efforts in the panhandle area. Basically, they're telling non-residents to let the locals handle it. They see an influx of "volunteers" as compounding their problems not the least of which are housing issues. They think the cleanup could take decades.

FAX

Phobia
06-04-2010, 12:44 PM
I use fossil fuels daily but it doesn't mean I condone oil spills or reckless irresponsibility.

I also like sunny days but I'm not a huge fan of flying on a space shuttle into the sun or melanoma.

That argument is ridiculous.

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 12:46 PM
It's definitely an unfortunate event. Unfortunately the liberal media loves to use pictures of po widdle birds to tug at heartstrings and make everything seem like it's worse than it actually is.

Sure is dramatic, though!

Yeah, because Im sure you're an expert on the severity of this spill right? You do realize how bad, and large this spill is right? Do you even remember the last one and how long it took to clean that shit up?

Further proof you're a dumbass.

Demonpenz
06-04-2010, 12:49 PM
for my Econ class we were supposed to make slides to pictures of the oil spill. my power point took on different meaning when I replaced Enya with rupert Holmes "escape" (the pina colota song)

Deberg_1990
06-04-2010, 12:49 PM
Yeah, because Im sure you're an expert on the severity of this spill right? You do realize how bad, and large this spill is right? Do you even remember the last one and how long it took to clean that shit up?

Further proof you're a dumbass.

Amazingly, the Earth has managed to survive 20 years after the Exxon Valdez.

chasedude
06-04-2010, 12:50 PM
It's definitely an unfortunate event. Unfortunately the liberal media loves to use pictures of po widdle birds to tug at heartstrings and make everything seem like it's worse than it actually is.

Sure is dramatic, though!

I'd like to see you in one of those pictures all covered in oil and see if you feel the same way then.

Your arrogance is pathetic. If this is your latest attempt of another trolling shtick then your douchebaggery has grown to new levels.

Demonpenz
06-04-2010, 12:50 PM
Amazingly, the Earth has managed to survive 20 years after the Exxon Valdez.

Exxon Valdez Didn't exist


ExxonValdezdidntexist.com

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 12:50 PM
Amazingly, the Earth has managed to survive 20 years after the Exxon Valdez.

And your point is what?

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 12:51 PM
Yeah, because Im sure you're an expert on the severity of this spill right?

My father works for Halliburton. I trust his expert opinion.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 12:51 PM
I'd like to see you in one of those pictures all covered in oil and see if you feel the same way then.


ROFL

Help me, I'm a dumb bird!

chasedude
06-04-2010, 12:52 PM
ROFL

Help me, I'm a dumb bird!

Oh the irony! :LOL:

ChiTown
06-04-2010, 12:53 PM
My father works for Halliburton. I trust his expert opinion.

Halliburton is one of my best customers.

Deberg_1990
06-04-2010, 12:53 PM
And your point is what?

That this stuff is waaaaay overblown.

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 12:55 PM
My father works for Halliburton. I trust his expert opinion.

ROFL.

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Because your daddy had an opinion that makes him an expert?

I'd rather trust the opinion of the rest of the country, who would say you and your daddy are dumb asses.

But I guess anyone who takes pictures of the wildlife that is being harmed are "Liberal propagandists" huh?

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 12:57 PM
That this stuff is waaaaay overblown.

How is this over blown? How many Gallons of oil are coating our oceans right now?

Demonpenz
06-04-2010, 01:00 PM
How is this over blown? How many Gallons of oil arecoating our oceans right now?

7

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 01:01 PM
ROFL.

That is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Because your daddy had an opinion that makes him an expert?


No, dipshit. Because he has worked for one of the world's major oil companies for over 40 years. Because he spent years and years on oil rigs all over the world. Because he is now a global advisor to drilling operations in every part of the world. Because he knows far more about this shit than any yokel who gets their information from the liberal media and every other bullshit source that wants to prop up this latest disaster as the end of the fucking world.

Who is your daddy, and what does he do?

ChiTown
06-04-2010, 01:05 PM
No, dipshit. Because he has worked for one of the world's major oil companies for over 40 years. Because he spent years and years on oil rigs all over the world. Because he is now a global advisor to drilling operations in every part of the world. Because he knows far more about this shit than any yokel who gets their information from the liberal media and every other bullshit source that wants to prop up this latest disaster as the end of the ****ing world.

Who is your daddy, and what does he do?

By the way, and not to pick nits, but HAL is not an Oil Company. They are a field services company for the Oil & Gas Companies. Big difference.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 01:06 PM
No, dipshit. Because he has worked for one of the world's major oil companies for over 40 years. Because he spent years and years on oil rigs all over the world. Because he is now a global advisor to drilling operations in every part of the world. Because he knows far more about this shit than any yokel who gets their information from the liberal media and every other bullshit source that wants to prop up this latest disaster as the end of the ****ing world.

Who is your daddy, and what does he do?

Too bad your daddy was dumb enough to procreate.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 01:07 PM
By the way, and not to pick nits, but HAL is not an Oil Company. They are a field services company for the Oil & Gas Companies. Big difference.

He's just fuggen full of shit as he is with everything else.

teedubya
06-04-2010, 01:07 PM
I didnt know Swine, Cattle, and Chicken came from the Gulf...

Listen here, fucknose. Plankton give off a vast percentage of the oxygen in our atmosphere... and this oil and the chemicals put in the ocean are killing them. Without plankton, do you realize what can happen to the rest of the world.

This is a HUGE tragedy... this is spawning season, and most fish are laying eggs right now, and a vast majority of them will die.

Plankton are the initial prey item for almost all fish larvae as they switch from their yolk sacs to external feeding. Fish rely on the density and distribution of plankton to match that of new larvae, which can otherwise starve.

People with cavalier attitudes like you are why the world is getting fucked up the ass.

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 01:08 PM
No, dipshit. Because he has worked for one of the world's major oil companies for over 40 years. Because he spent years and years on oil rigs all over the world. Because he is now a global advisor to drilling operations in every part of the world. Because he knows far more about this shit than any yokel who gets their information from the liberal media and every other bullshit source that wants to prop up this latest disaster as the end of the ****ing world.

Who is your daddy, and what does he do?

lol. I don't depend on my daddy for shit unlike you. I have the ability to form my own opinions and take responsibility for myself and what I say and do. Unlike you, I don't live with my mommy and daddy and depend on them for shit.

I dont need my daddy to feed me his political "libs are the devil" bullshit like you do. Pictures don't lie. Neither do numbers.

But or course, your daddy doesn't like the liberals, and apparently only liberals care about the environment, so this MUST be more liberal propaganda, right Goqueer?

My daddy says this, my daddy says that, whaaaaa!

Fuck you and your daddy.

Swanman
06-04-2010, 01:08 PM
GoChiefs is the Jay Mariotti of Chiefsplanet.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 01:12 PM
I dont need my daddy to feed me his political "libs are the devil" bullshit like you do. Pictures don't lie. Neither do numbers.

But or course, your daddy doesn't like the liberals, and apparently only liberals care about the environment, so this MUST be more liberal propaganda, right Goqueer?

My daddy says this, my daddy says that, whaaaaa!

Fuck you and your daddy.

I don't agree with my father on everything. Frankly, I think he is an idiot for watching Fox News.

But I do trust him more than some idiot on a sports message board when it comes to matters of oil and drilling.

Pictures most certainly lie. The media is manipulative as hell. If you were manipulated by pictures of birds, you are almost as dumb as they were for plunging their delicious, feathery bodies headfirst into oil.

teedubya
06-04-2010, 01:17 PM
This oil spill is only a small percentage of the problem, btw...

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Detoxing
06-04-2010, 01:21 PM
I don't agree with my father on everything. Frankly, I think he is an idiot for watching Fox News.

But I do trust him more than some idiot on a sports message board when it comes to matters of oil and drilling.

Pictures most certainly lie. The media is manipulative as hell. If you were manipulated by pictures of birds, you are almost as dumb as they were for plunging their delicious, feathery bodies headfirst into oil.

If you cannot understand 210,000 gallons of oil a day then you are really fucking dense. But go ahead, feed into your daddy's "this is all liberal propaganda" bullshit.

It doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out what that kind of volume is a very bad thing. Get your head out of dad's colon.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 01:21 PM
Pictures most certainly lie. The media is manipulative as hell. If you were manipulated by pictures of birds, you are almost as dumb as they were for plunging their delicious, feathery bodies headfirst into oil.

Seriously, you have GOT to be the most ignorant phucktard ever. Your issues with insecurity and the need to be the focal point of every conversation is profoundly disturbing.

[I'm retracting what I said about you earlier because frankly it was too harsh and I certainly don't wish any physical harm upon you. You're entitled to your opinions, but jeezusphuckinkrist, you make me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan some times.]

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Seriously, you have GOT to be the most ignorant phucktard ever. Your issues with insecurity and the need to be the focal point of every conversation is profoundly disturbing.

[I'm retracting what I said about you earlier because frankly it was too harsh and I certainly don't wish any physical harm upon you. You're entitled to your opinions, but jeezusphuckinkrist, you make me embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan some times.]

Damn....and this post was so full of awesome too.

chasedude
06-04-2010, 01:52 PM
Damn....and this post was so full of awesome too.
Agreed, I'd like to see Goatse spew that propaganda crap to all the fishermen in the gulf. He'd definitely would get a nice beatdown to shut that mouth of his up.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 01:54 PM
[I'm retracting what I said about you earlier because frankly it was too harsh and I certainly don't wish any physical harm upon you.

You're a wonderful human being.

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 01:56 PM
You're a wonderful human being.

lol. How Ironic.....

vailpass
06-04-2010, 01:57 PM
I hate pelicans. Beggars of the beach always swooping down and trying to take your food.
It is funny how they have made some grown men cry in this thread though.

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 02:02 PM
I hate pelicans. Beggars of the beach always swooping down and trying to take your food.
It is funny how they have made some grown men cry in this thread though.

Oh gee, what a surprise.....

Iowanian
06-04-2010, 02:04 PM
hey Look at the bird picture of this that I think better describes it..

http://christianmenchristianwarrior.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/chicken-little-sky-falling.jpg

Terribilis
06-04-2010, 02:06 PM
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-
witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the
simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if
he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of
doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy
(http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/85.Leo_Tolstoy)

vailpass
06-04-2010, 02:08 PM
Oh gee, what a surprise.....

Perhaps you and your cry-buddies here could gather up all your tampons and go soak this spill up.
Stay Free eco warriors, Stay Free!!!!!

DonTellMeShowMe
06-04-2010, 02:11 PM
damn, those pics are crazy

It's unfortunate to not recognize just general respect

If this had happened in your neighborhood (i.e. say a natural gas leak caused an explosion in your community), you would probably be pretty upset. But since it's in the ocean, you can't see how it directly affects us...most people don't care

Caring about this stuff is too synomous with being a "hippie" or "bleeding heart liberal" which I def am not either, but I do care

Iowanian
06-04-2010, 02:17 PM
75% of the earth's surface is covered by water.(the remainder is covered by Brandon Flowers).

While this is a local mess, and it's going to cause problems for local business in that region, it's hardly an unsurmountable environmental catastrophe capable of bringing the fire and brimstone of Mayan 2012 folklore.

Simma down.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 02:18 PM
You're a wonderful human being.

Actually, I am. At least I'm man enough and I have enough compassion and integrity to erase my original post about you.

But keep it up, GayChief. Keep on behaving like you do and I will most certainly be the first one in a line of many who will gladly shove the leg of a barstool up your ass.

DonTellMeShowMe
06-04-2010, 02:19 PM
75% of the earth's surface is covered by water.(the remainder is covered by Brandon Flowers).

While this is a local mess, and it's going to cause problems for local business in that region, it's hardly an unsurmountable environmental catastrophe capable of bringing the fire and brimstone of Mayan 2012 folklore.

Simma down.

I agree with this...except I'm pretty sure the other 25% is covered by Patrick Willis

Iowanian
06-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Then the rest of the world must be a Tight End or a running back coming out of the backfield if they're going to be covered by a linebacker.


Petroleum is a natural substance, the Earth has was to deal with this in its' own timeframe. Man's timeline is what is at stake in this situation.

Is it good or something I'm glad is happening? Absolutely not.

chasedude
06-04-2010, 02:23 PM
75% of the earth's surface is covered by water.(the remainder is covered by Brandon Flowers).

While this is a local mess, and it's going to cause problems for local business in that region, it's hardly an unsurmountable environmental catastrophe capable of bringing the fire and brimstone of Mayan 2012 folklore.

Simma down.

http://blog.karmona.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ostrich_head_sand.jpg

ChiTown
06-04-2010, 02:25 PM
http://blog.karmona.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ostrich_head_sand.jpg

or, you

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/therundown/panic_1.png

chasedude
06-04-2010, 02:29 PM
or, you

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/therundown/panic_1.png

Yeah let's just do nothing. Do you work for BP? You sure sound like them.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 02:29 PM
75% of the earth's surface is covered by water.(the remainder is covered by Brandon Flowers).

While this is a local mess, and it's going to cause problems for local business in that region, it's hardly an unsurmountable environmental catastrophe capable of bringing the fire and brimstone of Mayan 2012 folklore.

Simma down.

Like the Flowers coverage. LMAO

However, this isn't just a local case. I'm not trying to make this into something that it isn't, but they are saying the gulf stream will take the oil out into the Atlantic and will eventually end up near European shores.

Not to mention, this isn't over and won't be over for a very, very long time. They can put a stop to the bleeding oil right now, but the long term effects of this are unfathomable and certainly can't be denied, nor ignored.

This isn't a hurricane, or a flooding, tornado, or earthquake. This isn't something that comes into town and it's over in a few minutes and lives are repaired and homes are built back up. This oil spill goes on for as long as it wants.

Those whose livelihoods and vocations rely on the Gulf are decimated. Not for a few weeks, or a few months, but for many, many years. It has a greater impact than most people will give it.

ChiTown
06-04-2010, 02:36 PM
Yeah let's just do nothing. Do you work for BP? You sure sound like them.

:LOL:

Iowanian
06-04-2010, 02:54 PM
Yeah, the current will distribute the oil, tar and sediments, but they'll also be dispersed and will have less impact when the same amount of "stuff" is spread over a wider area.

The same marshes and vegetation being shown absorbing oil are doing exactly what nature intended them to do...they're buffers and filters. Eventually, anything that isn't cleaned up will become tar, will break down in some form, be covered and life will go on.

I'm not suggesting this oil spill isn't a bad thing, but I sure don't see it as the end of the world. This is going to have an impact on tourism in those affected areas, it's going to cost fishermen some money, but in a twisted way, it will stimulate other areas of economy and create new companies/jobs to assist in different aspects of this problem.

I say these things as someone with a BS in an environmentally related field with a Geology minor. I say these things as an owner of a company who has been asked to go to the region to perform some professional services.

If the govt is that concerned about it, they have the ability to detonate a pretty massive device over the area that will close that hole immediately.


Like the Flowers coverage. LMAO

However, this isn't just a local case. I'm not trying to make this into something that it isn't, but they are saying the gulf stream will take the oil out into the Atlantic and will eventually end up near European shores.

Not to mention, this isn't over and won't be over for a very, very long time. They can put a stop to the bleeding oil right now, but the long term effects of this are unfathomable and certainly can't be denied, nor ignored.

This isn't a hurricane, or a flooding, tornado, or earthquake. This isn't something that comes into town and it's over in a few minutes and lives are repaired and homes are built back up. This oil spill goes on for as long as it wants.

Those whose livelihoods and vocations rely on the Gulf are decimated. Not for a few weeks, or a few months, but for many, many years. It has a greater impact than most people will give it.

Iowanian
06-04-2010, 02:55 PM
http://skywalker.cochise.edu/wellerr/fossil/mammal/6mammoth-tar-pits1957.jpg

Terribilis
06-04-2010, 03:06 PM
I say these things as someone with a BS in an environmentally related field with a Geology minor.

I predict your degree is in chemical engineering, or an oil related field ;)

loochy
06-04-2010, 03:17 PM
Yeah, the current will distribute the oil, tar and sediments, but they'll also be dispersed and will have less impact when the same amount of "stuff" is spread over a wider area.

The same marshes and vegetation being shown absorbing oil are doing exactly what nature intended them to do...they're buffers and filters. Eventually, anything that isn't cleaned up will become tar, will break down in some form, be covered and life will go on.

I'm not suggesting this oil spill isn't a bad thing, but I sure don't see it as the end of the world. This is going to have an impact on tourism in those affected areas, it's going to cost fishermen some money, but in a twisted way, it will stimulate other areas of economy and create new companies/jobs to assist in different aspects of this problem.

I say these things as someone with a BS in an environmentally related field with a Geology minor. I say these things as an owner of a company who has been asked to go to the region to perform some professional services.

If the govt is that concerned about it, they have the ability to detonate a pretty massive device over the area that will close that hole immediately.

I find it really unfortunate that I can't rep you three times in a row.

It's nice to see someone look at a situation and actually think about it rather than jump to one pole or the other or simply spit back what CNN tells them.

Fish
06-04-2010, 04:00 PM
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-
witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the
simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if
he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of
doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy
(http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/85.Leo_Tolstoy)

I was thinking more along the lines of:

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.’ –Bertrand Russell

RedNeckRaider
06-04-2010, 04:29 PM
Ya know Goat, just when think it would be impossible for even you, to achieve a new level of dickheaddedness, you manage to sit at your keyboard and prove me wrong time after time.
I pray I meet you in person some day, just to kick you in the balls you ****en asshole

That is just him being him. He craves a reaction and types stupid crap to feed his pathtic need for attention. This is the reason I do not take him serious and have no interest in what he says~

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 04:32 PM
That is just him being him. He craves a reaction and types stupid crap to feed his pathtic need for attention. This is the reason I do not take him serious and have no interest in what he says~

Do you have an opinion on the poor oily avians or are you just going to attack those who do?

RedNeckRaider
06-04-2010, 04:47 PM
Do you have an opinion on the poor oily avians or are you just going to attack those who do?

I think it is a sickening mess. Will it end the world? no. It will change the coast line. It will impact many people for years to come and this will cause much more harm than many wish to admit. I am far from a leftwing worry wart but this is a huge f&ck up that will cause residual damage for years to come. Yes the earth will shake this off and we will be fine but to dismiss it as no big deal is silly IMO~

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 04:52 PM
Listen here, fucknose. Plankton give off a vast percentage of the oxygen in our atmosphere... and this oil and the chemicals put in the ocean are killing them. Without plankton, do you realize what can happen to the rest of the world.

This is a HUGE tragedy... this is spawning season, and most fish are laying eggs right now, and a vast majority of them will die.

Plankton are the initial prey item for almost all fish larvae as they switch from their yolk sacs to external feeding. Fish rely on the density and distribution of plankton to match that of new larvae, which can otherwise starve.

People with cavalier attitudes like you are why the world is getting fucked up the ass.Take a pill, drama queen. We overcame Valdez. I dont recall life ceasing to exist.

Fish
06-04-2010, 04:55 PM
Take a pill, drama queen. We overcame Valdez. I dont recall life ceasing to exist.

Life ceased to exist for a lot of wildlife due to Valdez. Just because it didn't directly affect your own selfish existence, that doesn't mean no damage was done.

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 05:03 PM
Life ceased to exist for a lot of wildlife due to Valdez. Just because it didn't directly affect your own selfish existence, that doesn't mean no damage was done.I'm talking about human life, on a grand scale, assbag. GFY

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 05:13 PM
Life ceased to exist for a lot of wildlife due to Valdez. Just because it didn't directly affect your own selfish existence, that doesn't mean no damage was done.

Those poor birdies. :(

jspchief
06-04-2010, 05:46 PM
While this is a local mess, and it's going to cause problems for local business in that region...
Simma down.

It has also dumped oil into a major shipping lane. Every ship that passes through it has to be cleaned at dock, only to have to pass back through it on return, requiring a second cleaning. This means that imports like bananas and exports like grains become less profitable.

Hurricane Katrina caused a 20% drop in crop values right here in good 'ol Iowa. We could be facing a similar situation, depending on how bad the shipping lanes become. Not exactly local.

Fish
06-04-2010, 05:47 PM
I'm talking about human life, on a grand scale, assbag. GFY

No, you're talking about your human life. There are thousands of people who's lives have already been greatly affected by the Gulf spill. Fishermen that can't work. Beach resort workers looking at black sludge rolling up on their beaches driving away tourists. The list is extensive. It's going to affect the whole coast line. That is considered a grand scale, assbag.

vailpass
06-04-2010, 05:51 PM
It has also dumped oil into a major shipping lane. Every ship that passes through it has to be cleaned at dock, only to have to pass back through it on return, requiring a second cleaning. This means that imports like bananas and exports like grains become less profitable.

Hurricane Katrina caused a 20% drop in crop values right here in good 'ol Iowa. We could be facing a similar situation, depending on how bad the shipping lanes become. Not exactly local.

Alright now that is a problem.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 05:57 PM
Alright now that is a problem.

Not really. Just eat pelicans.

Detoxing
06-04-2010, 05:58 PM
Not really. Just eat pelicans.

Har har, you're so ****ing funny

Chief Roundup
06-04-2010, 06:09 PM
This oil spill will have a dramatic impact on many areas of our environment as well as economy.
The coast line that is and will be affected is worth more than our national debt. What is going to happen when there is no tourism for a decade. Those condos, apartments, commercial buildings, homes will all end up being turned back to the finance companies for forclosure. I bet that will more than double our current national debt.
It isn't like it is going to get cleaned up as good as it was before this ever happened. They will clean it up to a certain level then it will be left to mother nature to finish the cleanup effort. This will affect the fishing industry for decades and decades. The fish that are caught will have to be tested to meet FDA standards before they can be sold.

vailpass
06-04-2010, 06:13 PM
Not really. Just eat pelicans.

:)
I like mine globally warmed served with a generous helping of oil and greenhouse gases.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 06:15 PM
What is going to happen when there is no tourism for a decade.

Do you really believe this shit? Really.

I bet that will more than double our current national debt.

ROFL

You people. Really. You are precious.

Chief Roundup
06-04-2010, 06:27 PM
Do you really believe this shit? Really.



ROFL

You people. Really. You are precious.

Uh yeah I believe that. Those beaches are not going to be beautiful white and sandy. There are not going to be Marlin and other fish that will make you want to go down there on a fishing trip.
Who is going to be renting those apartments, condos, hotels, homes?
When they are not be rented and bring in revenues people will not continue to be able to make payments. If they can't make the payments they will get forclosed.

Baconeater
06-04-2010, 06:27 PM
lol. How Ironic.....
Not as ironic as this:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/06/500x_bp_no_spill_sign.jpg

vailpass
06-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Uh yeah I believe that. Those beaches are not going to be beautiful white and sandy. There are not going to be Marlin and other fish that will make you want to go down there on a fishing trip.
Who is going to be renting those apartments, condos, hotels, homes?
When they are not be rented and bring in revenues people will not continue to be able to make payments. If they can't make the payments they will get forclosed.

I understand your concern. However the approximate total dollar figure of our current national debt, including president clown-shoe's health care debacle as soon as it hits the books is a REALLY big number.

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Har har, you're so ****ing funny

more like so ****ing stupid

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 06:31 PM
more like so ****ing stupid

Not as stupid as the pelican in my belly.

PELICAN PIETY

The perfect recipe for tough cuts of meat, ie. anything off a Pelican, not suitable for other dishes. I wouldn't recommend tackling this recipe unless you are feeling particularly fit as Pelicans are notoriously difficult to catch. Your best chance is to wait till the end of a feast and wave a teatowel just outside the kitchen door.

Cut meat from the bone. Pick over carcass for all edible bits of meat- there won't be much. Mince or chop what you do find thoroughly. Put a tablespoon of lard (renderings from a Baron or Baroness are best) to melt in a medium saucepan. Chop an onion finely and fry in the lard til golden. Stir in a tablespoon of flour and at least 500g of the meat. Cook until the Pelican mince takes a little colour then add 600ml of chicken or beef stock and a few drops of Worcestershire sauce.

You might like to add some sweet white wine if the Pelican of your choice was especially bitter or not from Politarchopolis. Chop some parsley and stir in a tablespoon worth. When the gravy is quite thick pour into a gratin dish and cover with thick layer of pastry. Preheat the oven to 180C. Paint the pastry with a little butter and put the pie into the oven for 20 minutes. Best served with boiled root vegetables.

Chief Roundup
06-04-2010, 06:34 PM
I understand your concern but do you know the total dollar figure of our current national debt including president clown-shoe's health care debacle as soon as it hits the books?

No I do not know an exact figure as it changes upward constantly.
Do you know what all of those building and coastly property is worth?
Do you know what it was sold for and what is owed on that property for how many hundreds of miles?
The last time I was in Destin, FL. I rented a condo 1 row back from beach front that was $3000 for a month as long as we paid up front. We rented that because it was half the price of the Holiday Inn Holiglobe. That was 5 years ago.

Chief Roundup
06-04-2010, 06:36 PM
What just happened to all of the seafood restaurant pricing? With the current economic situation I will bet thier business is going to go down to a point that a lot of those restaurants will have to change thier menus or close thier doors.

badgirl
06-04-2010, 06:36 PM
Not really. Just eat pelicans.

I really hate you!!!:mad:

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 06:38 PM
What just happened to all of the seafood restaurant pricing?

Huh?

I just went to Pappadeaux last week and enjoyed a reasonably priced meal.

I was disappointed at the lack of Pelican options on the menu, however.

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 06:53 PM
Huh?

I just went to Pappadeaux last week and enjoyed a reasonably priced meal.

I was disappointed at the lack of Pelican options on the menu, however.

you really are just a stupid fucktard

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 07:14 PM
Huh?

I just went to Pappadeaux last week and enjoyed a reasonably priced meal.

I was disappointed at the lack of Pelican options on the menu, however.

fucking stupid AND dumb. Neg repping me because I called you out on your shit really does not hurt my feelings, but everyone on this thread can see how fucking stupid you are

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 07:18 PM
I neg repped you because I knew you'd respond with further whining, thereby increasing the entertainment factor of this thread.

Well done.

Param
06-04-2010, 07:19 PM
I'm surprise some people fall for his schitck. gochiefs wants to be a douchebag in real life, but can't because he doesn't have the goods. So he comes to the internets and acts like a douchebag. It's the closest he'll ever come.

FAX
06-04-2010, 07:20 PM
There's no doubt that the Earth can absorb this disaster, but in the meantime it will have a very negative effect on the environment and local economies. Nobody likes to swim in oil.

I just wish there were more that the average person could do to help. I've checked it out and, apparently, there isn't a hell of a lot other than patronizing local businesses. Problem is, I prefer my shrimp served in butter - not crude.

FAX

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 07:25 PM
I'm surprise some people fall for his schitck. gochiefs wants to be a douchebag in real life, but can't because he doesn't have the goods. So he comes to the internets and acts like a douchebag. It's the closest he'll ever come.

Do I owe you anything, doctor? ROFL

Param
06-04-2010, 07:27 PM
Do I owe you anything, doctor? ROFL

You're a phony. Keep pounding those keys on the internets

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 07:32 PM
I neg repped you because I knew you'd respond with further whining, thereby increasing the entertainment factor of this thread.

Well done.

so you are happy with me further exposing you for the whiny ass pussy that you are?

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 07:33 PM
You're a phony. Keep pounding those keys on the internets

You have given out too much rep. Try again in 24 hours. AWESOME CALL

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 07:37 PM
You're a phony. Keep pounding those keys on the internets

A phony douchebag?

Is there a technical term for this, doctor?

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 07:38 PM
so you are happy with me further exposing you for the whiny ass pussy that you are?

I'm always happy to see you posting. You are part of what makes this place great.

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 07:46 PM
Not as ironic as this:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/06/500x_bp_no_spill_sign.jpgLMAO that is awesome

BigMeatballDave
06-04-2010, 07:51 PM
No, you're talking about your human life. There are thousands of people who's lives have already been greatly affected by the Gulf spill. Fishermen that can't work. Beach resort workers looking at black sludge rolling up on their beaches driving away tourists. The list is extensive. It's going to affect the whole coast line. That is considered a grand scale, assbag.Again, I said human LIFE. Learn to read.

RJ
06-04-2010, 07:51 PM
haha, only pussies care about dead stuff and beaches and peoples jobs. Except for people we know and our dogs, like our uncles and cousins, and people who live near us that we don't know but that we hear about from people we know. But not people who live far away that we don't know, which is for pussies. haha.

jspchief
06-04-2010, 08:21 PM
I'm surprise some people fall for his schitck. gochiefs wants to be a douchebag in real life, but can't because he doesn't have the goods. So he comes to the internets and acts like a douchebag. It's the closest he'll ever come.More accurately, surprised people still fall for it from Gochiefs. He's been pulling this bad troll act for years. It's amazing that people still bite.

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 08:30 PM
More accurately, surprised people still fall for it from Gochiefs. He's been pulling this bad troll act for years. It's amazing that people still bite.

then why allow him to continue with his bullshit

BossChief
06-04-2010, 08:32 PM
Man, it hurts to even look at those pictures.

I wish there was something practical I could do to help.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 08:37 PM
I wish there was something practical I could do to help.

http://www.eddylangley.net/theatre/social/fryingpan.jpg

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 08:39 PM
Man, it hurts to even look at those pictures.

I wish there was something practical I could do to help.

I know.

If I had the funds, I would go down there and volunteer my services. Hopefully some humanitarian group will go down and help clean the animals and save them.

BossChief
06-04-2010, 08:42 PM
Is that weak sauce in that pan you are cooking in GoChiefs?

jspchief
06-04-2010, 08:43 PM
then why allow him to continue with his bullshitResponses like yours just feed him the attention he's looking for. Don't be so naive.

Gracie Dean
06-04-2010, 08:50 PM
Responses like yours just feed him the attention he's looking for. Don't be so naive.

Unless he is in my thread or post something REALLY stupid more so than his usual self, I ignore him

His caviler attitude on this tho makes me sick

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-04-2010, 08:59 PM
It's easy to laugh about it when it's "just some dumb bird". I wonder how many would feel if their dog or cat lapped up some antifreeze that their neighbor poured down his driveway.

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 09:11 PM
Is that weak sauce in that pan you are cooking in GoChiefs?

Yes. A heavy sauce will destroy the sweet flavor of the pelican. You don't want to overpower the meat.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 09:17 PM
haha, only pussies care about dead stuff and beaches and peoples jobs. Except for people we know and our dogs, like our uncles and cousins, and people who live near us that we don't know but that we hear about from people we know. But not people who live far away that we don't know, which is for pussies. haha.

Wow! RJ, I have a great deal of respect for you, but this last comment has me floored. This is unlike you.

I care a great deal about the plight of those people in the gulf whose livelihoods will be affected by this for many years to come. That doesn't make me a pussy- it makes me a humble, caring human being when another person's life is profoundly affected.

How would you like it if your industry was decimated by the ignorance of a company and you not only lost your job, but your vocation, and your livelihood? Take in account that this isn't for a few weeks, but for many years to come. The ecosystem will ultimately survive, but it's not going to happen overnight. The entire ecosystem will rebound as will most of the people who depend upon it will. But for now, they are all struggling to survive because of the ineptitude of a corporation.

I care. If you think I'm a pussy for caring, then may I be the coolest pussy around.

jspchief
06-04-2010, 09:19 PM
Wow! RJ, I have a great deal of respect for you, but this last comment has me floored. This is unlike you.

I care a great deal about the plight of those people in the gulf whose livelihoods will be affected by this for many years to come. That doesn't make me a pussy- it makes me a humble, caring human being when another person's life is profoundly affected.

How would you like it if your industry was decimated by the ignorance of a company and you not only lost your job, but your vocation, and your livelihood? Take in account that this isn't for a few weeks, but for many years to come. The ecosystem will ultimately survive, but it's not going to happen overnight. The entire ecosystem will rebound as will most of the people who depend upon it will. But for now, they are all struggling to survive because of the ineptitude of a corporation.

I care. If you think I'm a pussy for caring, then may I be the coolest pussy around.Once again, it's sarcasm. Don't be such a retard.

BossChief
06-04-2010, 09:25 PM
You don't want to overpower the meat.
ROFL

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 09:25 PM
Once again, it's sarcasm. Don't be such a retard.

:facepalm:

Goddddammmmitt...Not again!

My sarcasm meter is in need of some major repair as of late. ****!!!!

RJ
06-04-2010, 09:47 PM
Wow! RJ, I have a great deal of respect for you, but this last comment has me floored. This is unlike you.

I care a great deal about the plight of those people in the gulf whose livelihoods will be affected by this for many years to come. That doesn't make me a pussy- it makes me a humble, caring human being when another person's life is profoundly affected.

How would you like it if your industry was decimated by the ignorance of a company and you not only lost your job, but your vocation, and your livelihood? Take in account that this isn't for a few weeks, but for many years to come. The ecosystem will ultimately survive, but it's not going to happen overnight. The entire ecosystem will rebound as will most of the people who depend upon it will. But for now, they are all struggling to survive because of the ineptitude of a corporation.

I care. If you think I'm a pussy for caring, then may I be the coolest pussy around.


Ummmm.....uhhhhhh.....dude, should I edit with smilies?

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 09:50 PM
Ummmm.....uhhhhhh.....dude, should I edit with smilies?

No, it's all good. I just haven't been able to pick up on some of the latest sarcasms around here of late. I've just been a little stressed out lately. Well, in that case, maybe I do need some smilies. :D

RJ
06-04-2010, 09:53 PM
Once again, it's sarcasm. Don't be such a retard.


I like CosmicPal and certainly would never call him a retard.

Thanks for the help.

I shall now liberally insert smilies to indicate jocularity. :D

:thumb::pROFL:doh!:

NewChief
06-04-2010, 09:54 PM
I never understand why threads like this bring out the people who are like:

Dolphin! I'll take a shit on a dolphin then gut it then eat my own shit from the dolphin's innards! That's how manly and much of a fucking shit I give about dolphins.

or

Manatee? I want to hang a manatee head above my mantle and call it my mantletee, motherfucker. Then I'll rub down my wife in manatee blubber every night, toss her in flour, and fuck the wet spot. Yeah, that's how I roll.

or

The ocean? It's just like a big fucking bathtub. Who needs the fucking ocean? Fuck it. I hate saltwater.

RedNeckRaider
06-04-2010, 09:55 PM
I'm surprise some people fall for his schitck. gochiefs wants to be a douchebag in real life, but can't because he doesn't have the goods. So he comes to the internets and acts like a douchebag. It's the closest he'll ever come.

I said as much in another post. He is a pathtic attention whore. Over the years you would think he would grow out of it~

Mr. Flopnuts
06-04-2010, 09:56 PM
:(

Everything dies. It's a shame such suffrage is involved for some.

Iowanian
06-04-2010, 09:58 PM
There is that, but you have to consider many other things that play into crop prices, weather and yields in Brazil and Argentina, damage to ports and shipping equipment. If we're doing a comparison, I guess we can also look at what has happened with grain prices since 2005, the short version, they're near all time highs.

It's not my intent to say "screw them, it's just a local problem", its more that people like Ari are acting like the signs of the apocalypse are being opened in the gulf. I just don't see it that way. I also don't recall mass hysteria from the tourist areas of the gulf or shrimp boat captains when we have big problems in Iowa.

As for the boat cleaning, I guess this is an unexpected Christmas for boat cleaners, companies that supply them, and people who work in related industries.

This is a bad thing happening down there, it's going to take a while and a lot of money to clean up, but I don't think it's the catastrophe that CNN would make us believe.


It has also dumped oil into a major shipping lane. Every ship that passes through it has to be cleaned at dock, only to have to pass back through it on return, requiring a second cleaning. This means that imports like bananas and exports like grains become less profitable.

Hurricane Katrina caused a 20% drop in crop values right here in good 'ol Iowa. We could be facing a similar situation, depending on how bad the shipping lanes become. Not exactly local.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-04-2010, 10:03 PM
:(

Everything dies. It's a shame such suffrage is involved for some.

True. No one should ever be killed over the right to vote.

crispystl420
06-04-2010, 10:04 PM
:facepalm:

Goddddammmmitt...Not again!

My sarcasm meter is in need of some major repair as of late. ****!!!!

Man I am not trying to come off as an asshole, but your sarcasm meter is shot!

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 10:04 PM
I like CosmicPal and certainly would never call him a retard.

Thanks for the help.

I shall now liberally insert smilies to indicate jocularity. :D

:thumb::pROFL:doh!:

:thumb:

Thanks. Appreciate it. Stress combined with three pineapple daiquiries and gawd knows what heavenly concoction I just poured into this glass filled with ice hath made me a little less nimble on the feet.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-04-2010, 10:05 PM
True. No one should ever be killed over the right to vote.

I haven't read this thread so that went right over my head.

BossChief
06-04-2010, 10:05 PM
True. No one should ever be killed over the right to vote.

I am admittedly ignorant as to the meaning behind this, can you explain it? I appreciate it. I get most of your references, but this one slipped by me.

NewChief
06-04-2010, 10:06 PM
I haven't read this thread so that went right over my head.

Suffrage means something different than suffering. ;)

BossChief
06-04-2010, 10:08 PM
Suffrage means something different than suffering. ;)

It makes sense now, thanks. Im just glad I wasn't alone in missing that one.

CosmicPal
06-04-2010, 10:09 PM
Man I am not trying to come off as an asshole, but your sarcasm meter is shot!

Shheet...I've already established that it was off. What's a poor man without a sarcasm meter to do?

And no, I don't think you're an a-hole. You're cool with me. :thumb:

Count Alex's Wins
06-04-2010, 11:16 PM
:(

Everything dies. It's a shame such suffrage is involved for some.

I know, women should never be allowed to vote while they live.

FAX
06-05-2010, 12:58 AM
It's sad to see Mr. RJ cross over to the side of evil.

Fie on your evil deeds, Mr. RJ. Leave Mr. CosmicPal alone or risk facing the Power of Good which will probably rip your evil nads off with the Pliers of Niceness and the Dull Butter Knife of Agreeability.

FAX

Over-Head
06-05-2010, 01:21 AM
I said as much in another post. He is a pathtic attention whore. Over the years you would think he would grow out of it~
Hell with that idiots luck (and ours)he'll get knighted as a mod for reaching 100K posts.:shake:

Pablo
06-05-2010, 01:35 AM
GC pretty much fished this thread dry.

I haven't seen such effecient trolling since demons BBQ thread.

Donger
06-05-2010, 08:18 AM
That's unpleasant, but why didn't the bird fly away?

I haven't read this thread yet, but I presume that there's a lot of belly-aching about destroying the world and oil companies are evil, etc. Well, this is what happens, albeit not very often. It sucks and it's messy.

If you can't accept it, don't use the product. It's like a junkie shooting heroin while complaining about the dealer.

Donger
06-05-2010, 08:23 AM
The shit is obviously not going to rock. If you had read anything I've written in the other thread, You'd know my anger.

in fact, I think this could threaten the future of humanity.

Oh good Lord.

RedNeckRaider
06-05-2010, 08:32 AM
That's unpleasant, but why didn't the bird fly away?

I haven't read this thread yet, but I presume that there's a lot of belly-aching about destroying the world and oil companies are evil, etc. Well, this is what happens, albeit not very often. It sucks and it's messy.

If you can't accept it, don't use the product. It's like a junkie shooting heroin while complaining about the dealer.

I have been surprised by how dismissive people have been about this tragedy. That said this post sums the thing up rather well~

NewChief
06-05-2010, 08:41 AM
That's unpleasant, but why didn't the bird fly away?

I haven't read this thread yet, but I presume that there's a lot of belly-aching about destroying the world and oil companies are evil, etc. Well, this is what happens, albeit not very often. It sucks and it's messy.

If you can't accept it, don't use the product. It's like a junkie shooting heroin while complaining about the dealer.

Thanks for taking a break from your busy schedule, Mr. Hayward, to post here.

notorious
06-05-2010, 08:47 AM
True. No one should ever be killed over the right to vote.

Nice.



Reminds me of the "Man Show" episode when they had women sign the petition to end women's suffrage.

ROFL

Donger
06-05-2010, 08:49 AM
Thanks for taking a break from your busy schedule, Mr. Hayward, to post here.

Mr. Hayward?

Count Alex's Wins
06-05-2010, 08:49 AM
That's unpleasant, but why didn't the bird fly away?


Survey says: bird is dumb.

NewChief
06-05-2010, 08:52 AM
Mr. Hayward?

Come on, now, Tony. We'll get your life back to you any day now.

Donger
06-05-2010, 08:55 AM
Come on, now, Tony. We'll get your life back to you any day now.

Oh. That is not me.

Baconeater
06-05-2010, 09:20 AM
That's unpleasant, but why didn't the bird fly away?

I haven't read this thread yet, but I presume that there's a lot of belly-aching about destroying the world and oil companies are evil, etc. Well, this is what happens, albeit not very often. It sucks and it's messy.

If you can't accept it, don't use the product. It's like a junkie shooting heroin while complaining about the dealer.
So are you saying there is no validity to the reports of BP's blatant disregard of safety measures?

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:24 AM
So are you saying there is no validity to the reports of BP's blatant disregard of safety measures?

No, I'm not saying that at all.

Baconeater
06-05-2010, 09:29 AM
No, I'm not saying that at all.
Hmmm...then I'm not understanding your statement of 'this is what happens'.

'This' didn't happen because we are addicted to oil and BP is simply trying to meet demand, 'this' happened because BP was reckless in their quest to make a profit. I don't see what the problem is with people being angry about it.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:30 AM
Hmmm...then I'm not understanding your statement of 'this is what happens'. 'This' didn't happen because we are addicted to oil and BP is simply trying to meet demand, 'this' happened because BP was reckless in their quest to make a profit. I don't see what the problem is with people being angry about it.

This was an accident. Accidents happen.

burt
06-05-2010, 09:31 AM
Hmmm...then I'm not understanding your statement of 'this is what happens'. 'This' didn't happen because we are addicted to oil and BP is simply trying to meet demand, 'this' happened because BP was reckless in their quest to make a profit. I don't see what the problem is with people being angry about it.

You are correct. THe whole thing makes me ill and I hope the penalties to BP, bankrupt the company.

burt
06-05-2010, 09:32 AM
This was an accident. Accidents happen.

THis "accident" has been happening for over a month now. IT IS UTTER BULLSHIT AND HEADS SHOULD ROLL!!!!

Baconeater
06-05-2010, 09:33 AM
This was an accident. Accidents happen.
Yes, they do, but it's easier to accept them when every measure was taken to prevent them.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:36 AM
'This' didn't happen because we are addicted to oil and BP is simply trying to meet demand, 'this' happened because BP was reckless in their quest to make a profit. I don't see what the problem is with people being angry about it.

Actually, this DID happen because BP is trying to meet demand. Do you think they are out there for fun and games?

It certainly seems that BP was lax in the safety and precautions, and they should be heavily fined for that, but they didn't want this accident to happen.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:37 AM
THis "accident" has been happening for over a month now. IT IS UTTER BULLSHIT AND HEADS SHOULD ROLL!!!!

I don't know why you put accident in quotes.

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 09:37 AM
I have been surprised by how dismissive people have been about this tragedy. That said this post sums the thing up rather well~
I would agree with that post too if you include that the heroin addict was born into a society of heroin addicts, whose mother used heroin, which made him a heroin baby. And then the heroin addict realized his whole universe was built on heroin, so even if he personally quit his addiction to heroin, everything he touched would still be made out of heroin. Oh yeah and his government subsidized heroin to the point it was cheaper then bottled water. And when the heroin addict began to recognize the damage heroin was doing to everyone, he was attacked by his fellow addicts on chiefsplanet for having a conscience. I would feel better about that comparison then.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:37 AM
Yes, they do, but it's easier to accept them when every measure was taken to prevent them.

No argument from me.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:42 AM
I would agree with that post too if you include that the heroin addict was born into a society of heroin addicts, whose mother used heroin, which made him a heroin baby. And then the heroin addict realized his whole universe was built on heroin, so even if he personally quit his addiction to heroin, everything he touched would still be made out of heroin. Oh yeah and his government subsidized heroin to the point it was cheaper then bottled water. And when the heroin addict began to recognize the damage heroin was doing to everyone, he was attacked by his fellow addicts on chiefsplanet for having a conscience. I would feel better about that comparison then.

I have nothing but respect for those who try to minimize their consumption of petroleum products (I do it myself) and I'm fully aware that not using any in today's world is a virtual impossibility.

However, I'll bet you that some of the people on this thread belly-aching have things like a big truck, a boat, etc. that are luxury items only. That's hypocrisy. It reminds me of a time when gasoline was over $4.00 a gallon and there was a lady next to me ranting about how expensive gas was while she fueled up her Excursion.

Baconeater
06-05-2010, 09:42 AM
Actually, this DID happen because BP is trying to meet demand. Do you think they are out there for fun and games?

Yes, they are trying to meet demand, but the primary reason they are out there is to make money. As much as possible I might add.



It certainly seems that BP was lax in the safety and precautions, and they should be heavily fined for that, but they didn't want this accident to happen.
Of course they didn't. No one ever does. But if I go out and get into a car with faulty brakes and get in an accident and kill six people, I sure as hell would expect some outrage about it.

burt
06-05-2010, 09:44 AM
I don't know why you put accident in quotes.

Because I believe an accident occures over a matter of seconds, not months. This "accident" has been occuring for over a month and a fix for this constantly occuring "accident" has yet to be found....causing the worst oil spill in history. Did BP want this to happen? No, but a catastrophy, consistantly and constantly happening for over a month with no stoppage is significantly MORE thatn an accident.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:46 AM
Yes, they are trying to meet demand, but the primary reason they are out there is to make money. As much as possible I might add.

Yes, BP is a public company that needs to make a profit.

Of course they didn't. No one ever does. But if I go out and get into a car with faulty brakes and get in an accident and kill six people, I sure as hell would expect some outrage about it.

I don't disagree and I don't doubt that BP will pay severely.

I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but I'll make a guess: has ANYONE (particularly the belly-achers) mentioned the 11 men who died, or has it just been about birds, dolphins, plankton, etc?

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:49 AM
Because I believe an accident occures over a matter of seconds, not months. This "accident" has been occuring for over a month and a fix for this constantly occuring "accident" has yet to be found....causing the worst oil spill in history. Did BP want this to happen? No, but a catastrophy, consistantly and constantly happening for over a month with no stoppage is significantly MORE thatn an accident.

I suggest you look up the definition of accident.

And, this is not the worst spill in history. Not even close, in fact.

Baconeater
06-05-2010, 09:53 AM
I don't disagree and I don't doubt that BP will pay severely.

I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but I'll make a guess: has ANYONE (particularly the belly-achers) mentioned the 11 men who died, or has it just been about birds, dolphins, plankton, etc?
No, but to be fair those 11 men willingly went out there knowing what they were doing was dangerous. The birds, dolphins, plankton, etc are collateral damage. They had no choice in the matter.

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 09:56 AM
I have nothing but respect for those who try to minimize their consumption of petroleum products (I do it myself) and I'm fully aware that not using any in today's world is a virtual impossibility.

However, I'll bet you that some of the people on this thread belly-aching have things like a big truck, a boat, etc. that are luxury items only. That's hypocrisy. It reminds me of a time when gasoline was over $4.00 a gallon and there was a lady next to me ranting about how expensive gas was while she fueled up her Excursion.
I see what your saying, I bought a very fuel efficient car for this reason. It just sucks because I know that until gasoline is taxed to 7 or 8 dollars a gallon, this will be a recurring theme.
IMO though, there is nothing wrong with feeling empathy towards my fellow Americans on the gulf coast. In fact I feel a great deal of pity for people who are so cynical and hardened they mock those people. But I can't say I am surprised that people in the midwest would have little concern for what occurs on the coasts. Out of sight- Out of mind.

Donger
06-05-2010, 09:59 AM
No, but to be fair those 11 men willingly went out there knowing what they were doing was dangerous. The birds, dolphins, plankton, etc are collateral damage. They had no choice in the matter.

There's a shock.

Yes, they did and they were well-paid to do it. And in the end, they paid the ultimate price.

But, no choice for the animals? Is someone holding them down as the crude approaches? They can't swim or fly out of the way?

burt
06-05-2010, 10:00 AM
I suggest you look up the definition of accident.

And, this is not the worst spill in history. Not even close, in fact.

I will agree that is started out as an accident, but now it is a catastrophy. What was the worst oil spill in history? And lets remember this one hasn't ended.

Donger
06-05-2010, 10:01 AM
I see what your saying, I bought a very fuel efficient car for this reason. It just sucks because I know that until gasoline is taxed to 7 or 8 dollars a gallon, this will be a recurring theme.
IMO though, there is nothing wrong with feeling empathy towards my fellow Americans on the gulf coast. In fact I feel a great deal of pity for people who are so cynical and hardened they mock those people. But I can't say I am surprised that people in the midwest would have little concern for what occurs on the coasts. Out of sight- Out of mind.

I haven't seen anyone mocking these people.

Donger
06-05-2010, 10:03 AM
I will agree that is started out as an accident, but now it is a catastrophy. What was the worst oil spill in history? And lets remember this one hasn't ended.

Accidents and catastrophes are not mutually-exclusive.

The Gulf War Spill. And that one was NOT an accident. It was intentional.

burt
06-05-2010, 10:04 AM
But, no choice for the animals? Is someone holding them down as the crude approaches? They can't swim or fly out of the way?

You are being obstanant and obtuse. Don't continue to play the devils advocate....you are better than that.

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 10:05 AM
There's a shock.

Yes, they did and they were well-paid to do it. And in the end, they paid the ultimate price.

But, no choice for the animals? Is someone holding them down as the crude approaches? They can't swim or fly out of the way?

yeah I am sure most animals have a built in defense response for approaching crude. I mean its just natural selection right? Those animals that can't recognize the danger of a dark liquid, normally a mile deep, suddenly appearing to coat the entire surface of the wetlands they have been using to lay eggs and rear young at for thousands of years, should die. Those that survive clearly recognized the danger and the pelicans will be better off in the long run.


/sarcasm because on this thread that's important.

Bwana
06-05-2010, 10:05 AM
But, no choice for the animals? Is someone holding them down as the crude approaches? They can't swim or fly out of the way?

:facepalm:

Donger
06-05-2010, 10:12 AM
You are being obstanant and obtuse. Don't continue to play the devils advocate....you are better than that.

I'm not the one who brought up choice. I suppose one could say that these animals didn't/don't know that crude will kill them, but I don't think that can be ascertained.

It just seems that some people care more about these animals dying than the humans that already have.

Donger
06-05-2010, 10:13 AM
yeah I am sure most animals have a built in defense response for approaching crude. I mean its just natural selection right? Those animals that can't recognize the danger of a dark liquid, normally a mile deep, suddenly appearing to coat the entire surface of the wetlands they have been using to lay eggs and rear young at for thousands of years, should die. Those that survive clearly recognized the danger and the pelicans will be better off in the long run.


/sarcasm because on this thread that's important.

See above. Again, I think it sucks that the men died and I think it sucks that these animals will die.

RedNeckRaider
06-05-2010, 10:16 AM
I would agree with that post too if you include that the heroin addict was born into a society of heroin addicts, whose mother used heroin, which made him a heroin baby. And then the heroin addict realized his whole universe was built on heroin, so even if he personally quit his addiction to heroin, everything he touched would still be made out of heroin. Oh yeah and his government subsidized heroin to the point it was cheaper then bottled water. And when the heroin addict began to recognize the damage heroin was doing to everyone, he was attacked by his fellow addicts on chiefsplanet for having a conscience. I would feel better about that comparison then.

It was a very simple statement that sums up we create this through our huge addiction to oil. I understand your point. If you read through this thread you will see I am sickened about this and think it will cause problems for years to come. I have been surprised by the many who just think this is no big deal.

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 10:16 AM
I'm not the one who brought up choice. I suppose one could say that these animals didn't/don't know that crude will kill them, but I don't think that can be ascertained.

It just seems that some people care more about these animals dying than the humans that already have.
I care about all of it. Its not mutually exclusive to care about the people and the animals. Its just ridiculous that people can't fathom that its all inter-connected. If you claim to give a fuck about mankind then you can at least appreciate how dependent we are on the life that lives on it. Whats so confusing about that.

Bill Parcells
06-05-2010, 10:17 AM
They're ****ing birds, not people. Don't be ridiculous.

reason number eleventy billion why this person loves attention. he is the biggest attention whore on the interwebz..lol

Look at me everybody! look at what I said!

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 10:20 AM
See above. Again, I think it sucks that the men died and I think it sucks that these animals will die.
well i think its a little misleading and minimizes what people are trying to say when you claim that people care more about animals then people. Nobody of significance thinks like that. In fact I believe its a straw man to assert that point.

burt
06-05-2010, 10:20 AM
reason number eleventy billion why this person loves attention. he is the biggest attention whore on the interwebz..lol

Look at me everybody! look at what I said!

You and I are brothers from different mothers.

Donger
06-05-2010, 10:23 AM
well i think its a little misleading and minimizes what people are trying to say when you claim that people care more about animals then people. Nobody of significance thinks like that. In fact I believe its a straw man to assert that point.

It's just a fact: no one mentioned the men who died in this thread before I brought it up.

CosmicPal
06-05-2010, 10:26 AM
They can't swim or fly out of the way?

They're diving for fish. They have no idea the oil is bad for them nor do they consider the oil to be a predator- the only thing on their mind is to feed and once they see a fish, they'll dive after it. It's not stupidity- it's their behavior.

People on the other hand are fuggen stupid. Throw a candy bar into a swimming pool and a few fat phucks will jump in after it. That's stupidity.

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 10:26 AM
It's just a fact: no one mentioned the men who died in this thread before I brought it up.
Well maybe if they put pictures of oil covered people in the thread starter they would have. There are picture of BIRDS here. Also a fact.

Donger
06-05-2010, 10:29 AM
Well maybe if they put pictures of oil covered people in the thread starter they would have. There are picture of BIRDS here. Also a fact.

True. But for some reason, that wasn't done.

Deberg_1990
06-05-2010, 10:33 AM
Well maybe if they put pictures of oil covered people in the thread starter they would have. There are picture of BIRDS here. Also a fact.

A human is smart enough to not go diving into a vat of oil. Well, most of us anyways...

Terribilis
06-05-2010, 10:34 AM
True. But for some reason, that wasn't done.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/sLKO-vUTfqM/0.jpg

Donger
06-05-2010, 11:29 AM
http://img.youtube.com/vi/sLKO-vUTfqM/0.jpg

What awful chairs.