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Ugly Duck
06-07-2010, 11:56 PM
1. Chargers -- The Bolts run game improves with rookie Ryan Mathews, and they play just two playoff teams in the first 10 games.

21. Raiders -- Oakland could emerge as a playoff team, but that's if QB Jason Campbell shows that he's that type of quarterback. He's an upgrade from JaMarcus Russell, but he's still a question mark.

24. Broncos -- Forget the Tim Tebow hysteria, Denver has to fix its defense and hope that OT Ryan Clady rebounds from a knee injury. QB play, of course, is an issue.

26. Chiefs -- A unified coaching staff and better players should help, but a lot depends on QB Matt Cassel. Rookie S Eric Berry could be a difference-maker.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d818768f4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

FAX
06-07-2010, 11:59 PM
Does anybody remember that time when the power rankings had us listed in the top 20?

Those were the days, man.

FAX

KCrockaholic
06-08-2010, 12:04 AM
This really is a terrible rankings list.

New Orleans @ 8?

Yeah. GTFO.

Ugly Duck
06-08-2010, 12:07 AM
This really is a terrible rankings list.



I kinda like it. They didn't put Oakland at the bottom.

KCrockaholic
06-08-2010, 12:08 AM
I kinda like it. They didn't put Oakland at the bottom.

Don't get too excited. It's just one of the NFLN retards lists.

HotRoute
06-08-2010, 12:11 AM
congrats to the chargers for being the preseason champs and the postseason chumps, preseason rankings hold about as much value towards the end of the season as a teams preseason record.

mcaj22
06-08-2010, 12:13 AM
I thought it was pretty accurate besides who they have #1.


edit: and also Carolina at 30? Person that wrote that might be huffing glue.

KCrockaholic
06-08-2010, 12:19 AM
congrats to the chargers for being the preseason champs and the postseason chumps, preseason rankings hold about as much value towards the end of the season as a teams preseason record.

But that one year Oakland went 4-0 in the pre-season, and then...Oh nevermind.

Guru
06-08-2010, 12:19 AM
This thread is already funny. LMAO

-King-
06-08-2010, 12:22 AM
Whats this? The 4th year in a row they've been ranked top 3? I suspect that the results at the end of the season will be familiar to everybody.

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HotRoute
06-08-2010, 12:23 AM
lets be honest . .. . people who make these stupid ass preseason rankings are just bored. they really have no value in my opinion. the guy who wrote it could probable give a shit less and was just doing it to keep busy

Jethopper
06-08-2010, 01:25 AM
History Awaits!!!

Marcellus
06-08-2010, 06:17 AM
Whats this? The 4th year in a row they've been ranked top 3? I suspect that the results at the end of the season will be familiar to everybody.

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I have seen this before and it is still one of the funniest things on the intraweb.ROFL

Ugly Duck
06-08-2010, 07:08 AM
I thought it was pretty accurate besides who they have #1.

Sandy Eggo is not HappyLand right now... lookit this:

Report: Jackson, McNeill ready to sit out

ESPN.com news services

The San Diego Chargers are ready to play hard ball with receiver Vincent Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill, sending a letter to the pair informing them that their salaries will be drastically cut if they don't sign their contract tenders before June 15.

Chargers general manager A.J. Smith confirmed that the players were sent the letters when contacted by the San Diego Union-Tribune.

According to the newspaper, Jackson's salary would be slashed from $3.268 million to $583,000 if he doesn't sign by next week and McNeil's pay would drop from $3.168 million to $600,000.

Sources told the Union-Tribune that if the agents for both players recently informed the team that that Jackson and McNeill would stay away from the team for "some time" if they were sent the letters.

And the Union-Tribune, citing sources familiar with the thinking of the players, reported that the duo were prepared to sit out into the season and perhaps boycott the entire 2010 campaign.

Report: San Diego Chargers warn absent Vincent Jackson, Marcus McNeill - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5263198)[/QUOTE]

Buck
06-08-2010, 04:15 PM
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teedubya
06-08-2010, 04:20 PM
NFLN forgets the power of Norm

DaFace
06-08-2010, 04:22 PM
Hasn't San Diego been ranked top 5 or so every year for the past 5 years? I don't know what it is about that team, but they have an uncanny ability to look dominating on paper and barely above average in execution.

Brock
06-08-2010, 04:29 PM
They're the best of a crap division, but that's probably coming to an end pretty soon.

RNR
06-08-2010, 04:30 PM
1. Chargers -- The Bolts run game improves with rookie Ryan Mathews, and they play just two playoff teams in the first 10 games.

21. Raiders -- Oakland could emerge as a playoff team, but that's if QB Jason Campbell shows that he's that type of quarterback. He's an upgrade from JaMarcus Russell, but he's still a question mark.

24. Broncos -- Forget the Tim Tebow hysteria, Denver has to fix its defense and hope that OT Ryan Clady rebounds from a knee injury. QB play, of course, is an issue.

26. Chiefs -- A unified coaching staff and better players should help, but a lot depends on QB Matt Cassel. Rookie S Eric Berry could be a difference-maker.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d818768f4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

The bolded line gives me a chuckle, the guy driving the next car that drives by my house is an upgrade over that shitbag Russell. I agree with the list as the Chargers still appear as the best of a bad lot~

Buck
06-08-2010, 04:32 PM
Hasn't San Diego been ranked top 5 or so every year for the past 5 years? I don't know what it is about that team, but they have an uncanny ability to look dominating on paper and barely above average in execution.

They've made the playoffs the last 4 years and only have been knocked out in the first round twice. Lets not overlook the 4 playoff wins the last 4 years. The window is still open in my book.

JD10367
06-08-2010, 04:33 PM
Hasn't San Diego been ranked top 5 or so every year for the past 5 years? I don't know what it is about that team, but they have an uncanny ability to look dominating on paper and barely above average in execution.

The Chargers are the most overrated team in sports.

2004-2009 records: 12-4, 9-7, 14-2, 11-5, 8-8, 13-3. Won the division 5 out of 6 times.

2004-2009 playoff records: 3-5, only one appearance in the AFCCG (a loss).

vailpass
06-08-2010, 04:35 PM
Is Norv still their coach?
Okay then.

RNR
06-08-2010, 04:36 PM
They've made the playoffs the last 4 years and only have been knocked out in the first round twice. Lets not overlook the 4 playoff wins the last 4 years. The window is still open in my book.

It is still open due to playing in a very very weak west. I am talking playoff window because considering them a Superbowl contender is laughable~

Buck
06-08-2010, 04:37 PM
The Chargers are the most overrated team in sports.

2004-2009 records: 12-4, 9-7, 14-2, 11-5, 8-8, 13-3. Won the division 5 out of 6 times.

2004-2009 playoff records: 3-5, only one appearance in the AFCCG (a loss).

You are right, not sure where that 4th playoff win that I pulled out of my ass is.

-King-
06-08-2010, 04:37 PM
Is Norv still their coach?
Okay then.

The great equalizer.
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Buck
06-08-2010, 04:48 PM
The Chargers are the most overrated team in sports.

2004-2009 records: 12-4, 9-7, 14-2, 11-5, 8-8, 13-3. Won the division 5 out of 6 times.

2004-2009 playoff records: 3-5, only one appearance in the AFCCG (a loss).

I will say that its unfair to group the 2004 team in with the 2006-2009 team though.

Totally different team, and one that had no expectations. Drew Brees was the QB, Keenan McCardell and Eric Parker were the WRs, there was no Shawn Merriman or Luis Castillo on defense, among others.

RNR
06-08-2010, 04:58 PM
I will say that its unfair to group the 2004 team in with the 2006-2009 team though.

Totally different team, and one that had no expectations. Drew Brees was the QB, Keenan McCardell and Eric Parker were the WRs, there was no Shawn Merriman or Luis Castillo on defense, among others.

As I have stated I think the Chargers due to being in the weak west have a playoff window still open. Do you as a fan think they have a realistic shot at a ring? If so why?

DaFace
06-08-2010, 05:07 PM
They've made the playoffs the last 4 years and only have been knocked out in the first round twice. Lets not overlook the 4 playoff wins the last 4 years. The window is still open in my book.

Do I need to dig out your post-playoff-loss-to-the-Jets thread?

Gadzooks
06-08-2010, 05:39 PM
As I have stated I think the Chargers due to being in the weak west have a playoff window still open. Do you as a fan think they have a realistic shot at a ring? If so why?

I think the Chargers Front Office's ability to consistency of build strong teams year after year, (especially in this era of the cap and free agency), is bound to pay-off.
I may seem naive but, people used the ask Colts fans the same question.

RNR
06-08-2010, 05:45 PM
I think the Chargers Front Office's ability to consistency of build strong teams year after year, (especially in this era of the cap and free agency), is bound to pay-off.
I may seem naive but, people used the ask Colts fans the same question.

That is a fair answer. That said I feel there a big difference between the Colts before they got over the hump and a declining Chargers team. We can agree to disagree~

beach tribe
06-08-2010, 06:04 PM
I think the Chargers Front Office's ability to consistency of build strong teams year after year, (especially in this era of the cap and free agency), is bound to pay-off.
I may seem naive but, people used the ask Colts fans the same question.

Carl Peterson stacked a team for damn near a decade. It doesn't mean shit.
We are talking about the front office who let Brees walk, and kept LT over michael the burner turner, and cost it's franchise multiple rings IMO. Say what you want about the Chargers FO, but they BLEW IT.

JD10367
06-08-2010, 06:04 PM
That is a fair answer. That said I feel there a big difference between the Colts before they got over the hump and a declining Chargers team. We can agree to disagree~

The pre-SB-win Colts are very much like the current Chargers. Aside from Peyton being better than Rivers, the Colts having more talent than the Chargers, and Dungy being better than Norv.

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-08-2010, 06:09 PM
The one with NE at #1 was the most ridiculous.

Gadzooks
06-08-2010, 06:31 PM
Carl Peterson stacked a team for damn near a decade. It doesn't mean shit.
We are talking about the front office who let Brees walk, and kept LT over michael the burner turner, and cost it's franchise multiple rings IMO. Say what you want about the Chargers FO, but they BLEW IT.

You've got a point with Turner, but, anyone on this board would have let Brees walk under those circumstances.
How do you think the Chargers had the No.1 overall pick in order to trade for Rivers, Merriman, etc... It's 'cause Brees sucked balls at the time. On top of that Marty put him in to get injured in his final game before free agency.
Despite letting those players "walk" we still kick ass.:D

boogblaster
06-08-2010, 06:34 PM
Im happy at 26th .. who knows we might fool some teams this year .. but we have to get pressure and stop the run .... think our O will be improved some ....

Valiant
06-08-2010, 06:56 PM
Only reason why the Chargers have even been competent is from playing in the West.. It has been a joke for years..

Now add the fact of poor drafts, non-roided LB'rs and key people wanting contract extensions or they are holding out and the Chargers look very average this year..

I think ever ever wins the West this year will be lucky to get ten wins if not winning it with 9..

RNR
06-08-2010, 07:07 PM
Only reason why the Chargers have even been competent is from playing in the West.. It has been a joke for years..

Now add the fact of poor drafts, non-roided LB'rs and key people wanting contract extensions or they are holding out and the Chargers look very average this year..

I think ever ever wins the West this year will be lucky to get ten wins if not winning it with 9..

I agree 9 wins could well win the west~

Tombstone RJ
06-08-2010, 07:17 PM
Only reason why the Chargers have even been competent is from playing in the West.. It has been a joke for years..

Now add the fact of poor drafts, non-roided LB'rs and key people wanting contract extensions or they are holding out and the Chargers look very average this year..

I think ever ever wins the West this year will be lucky to get ten wins if not winning it with 9..

When Norv was hired people started saying this type of stuff about Sandy Eggo and Sandy Eggo still keeps winning when it matters most, that is, getting to the playoffs. As long as Rivers is at the helm of the offense, they are going to be a pretty darn good team. Smith knows how to draft talent on defense too. I think one of the other teams in the AFCW is going to have to take the crown from Sandy Eggo because like it or not, they are the current king of the AFCW hill.

As bad as Sandy Eggo has been the last 20 years or so, they have managed to capitalize on a weak AFCW at the right time. Perhaps its just luck (even an blind squirrel finds an occassional nut) but I'm pretty sure Spanos is learning how to win and AJ Smith is not going anywhere any time soon...

RNR
06-08-2010, 07:21 PM
When Norv was hired people started saying this type of stuff about Sandy Eggo and Sandy Eggo still keeps winning when it matters most, that is, getting to the playoffs. As long as Rivers is at the helm of the offense, they are going to be a pretty darn good team. Smith knows how to draft talent on defense too. I think one of the other teams in the AFCW is going to have to take the crown from Sandy Eggo because like it or not, they are the current king of the AFCW hill.

As bad as Sandy Eggo has been the last 20 years or so, they have managed to capitalize on a weak AFCW at the right time. Perhaps its just luck (even an blind squirrel finds an occassional nut) but I'm pretty sure Spanos is learning how to win and AJ Smith is not going anywhere any time soon...

Thats good to hear as the Superbowl has only been around since the mid 60s so maybe just maybe..... :)

Tombstone RJ
06-08-2010, 07:27 PM
Thats good to hear as the Superbowl has only been around since the mid 60s so maybe just maybe..... :)

Yah, and Al Davis is learning how to suck. In fact, he's got that down cold...:clap:

RNR
06-08-2010, 07:32 PM
Yah, and Al Davis is learning how to suck. In fact, he's got that down cold...:clap:

True with 5 trips and three rings LMAO at a dolt fan talking Superbowl smack~

chiefzilla1501
06-08-2010, 08:28 PM
They've made the playoffs the last 4 years and only have been knocked out in the first round twice. Lets not overlook the 4 playoff wins the last 4 years. The window is still open in my book.

The Chargers have squeaked into the playoffs because they had an abortion of a division to play in. As expected, Norv Turner does NOT prepare his team well to begin the season and then comes strong toward the end.

If the division could put up a legit fight, San Diego is a good not great team. They've got a terrific offense, but that defense is declining in a hurry since Norv took over. He's still living off a few really productive pieces Marty left behind.

Pablo
06-08-2010, 08:43 PM
THIS is their year. Fo sho. They definitely won't find a way to squander superior talent in a shit division and shit the bed in the playoffs. Not this year. Nope.

whoman69
06-08-2010, 08:45 PM
If games were played on paper the Chargers would have won 3 Super Bowls by now. Instead they're played on the field with Norv Turner as coach.

Gadzooks
06-08-2010, 09:01 PM
If games were played on paper the Chargers would have won 3 Super Bowls by now. Instead they're played on the field with Norv Turner as coach.

I understand how Norv’s neck can be disturbing at first but you get used to it.
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Tombstone RJ
06-08-2010, 09:04 PM
True with 5 trips and three rings LMAO at a dolt fan talking Superbowl smack~

I'm not a dolt fan, just pointing out the facts. Look at my sig and try to buy a clue...ROFL

Gadzooks
06-08-2010, 09:11 PM
You’ve got to admit, RNR, he's got you there.
Plus his orange colored glasses are always on.

Tombstone RJ
06-08-2010, 09:39 PM
You’ve got to admit, RNR, he's got you there.
Plus his orange colored glasses are always on.

My Broncos are in a complete rebuild mode right now, as is KC. It's gonna be hella fun watching kc and Denver going head to head the next couple of years for bragging rights. Both teams are basically starting over and both teams have a plan. I really like where the Broncos are heading and what McD has done to the defense in one year is remarkable, considering how bad Shanny left it. Offense always takes more time to gel.

milkman
06-08-2010, 10:16 PM
When Norv was hired people started saying this type of stuff about Sandy Eggo and Sandy Eggo still keeps winning when it matters most, that is, getting to the playoffs. As long as Rivers is at the helm of the offense, they are going to be a pretty darn good team. Smith knows how to draft talent on defense too. I think one of the other teams in the AFCW is going to have to take the crown from Sandy Eggo because like it or not, they are the current king of the AFCW hill.

As bad as Sandy Eggo has been the last 20 years or so, they have managed to capitalize on a weak AFCW at the right time. Perhaps its just luck (even an blind squirrel finds an occassional nut) but I'm pretty sure Spanos is learning how to win and AJ Smith is not going anywhere any time soon...

AJ Smith has done a pretty good job of drafting talent over the years, but he's really looking a lot like Carl in his handling of people, and that will bite him and the Chargers in the ass, and the biting has really already begun.

Hog Farmer
06-09-2010, 06:21 AM
They've made the playoffs the last 4 years and only have been knocked out in the first round twice. Lets not overlook the 4 playoff wins the last 4 years. The window is still open in my book.

Sorry Buck, but the Chargers brass showed what thet deem as important when they canned Schottenheimer who was putting together a good team and on the verge of getting them to the big Dance. Norv has always been deemed as a good OC but has never gotten anything accomplished.

The chargers are going to the dungeon with McDumbass and Tebow while the Chiefs and Raiders are on the rise. The Chiefs ownership has done the opposite of the Chargers and brought in the right people from the top down and now have the coaching staff to turn this organization around. This years draft by the Chiefs will be looked upon as the best in the last 20 years as we begin to dominate this division for the forseeable future.

These rankings are way off. It must have been opposite day when this was written.

JD10367
06-09-2010, 06:41 AM
When Norv was hired people started saying this type of stuff about Sandy Eggo and Sandy Eggo still keeps winning when it matters most, that is, getting to the playoffs.

I stopped reading right here.

Psst.... Hey, lean in close, I have a secret...

:::whispering:::

It matters most to win in the playoffs.

-King-
06-09-2010, 06:54 AM
I stopped reading right here.

Psst.... Hey, lean in close, I have a secret...

:::whispering:::

It matters most to win in the playoffs.

Pshhhh, what's the next piece of BS you're going to say? That winning the superbowl matters? HA!
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BigChiefFan
06-09-2010, 07:16 AM
Good team? Yes, but number one overall is foolhardy at best. The ranking is trash.

OnTheWarpath58
06-09-2010, 07:26 AM
I think it's funny that people here say stupid shit and attempt to talk smack to Chargers fans. Uh, Chargers suck!

WTF does that say about the Chiefs?

SD has as many playoff wins in the past 3 years as we have in the last 40.

As someone said earlier, they've put together a talented roster, but just haven't been able to get over the hump. People said the same thing about the Colts for years.

I could give a shit about "rankings" at any time, much less in June. But they have as good a chance to represent the AFC as anyone this year.

OnTheWarpath58
06-09-2010, 07:28 AM
Good team? Yes, but number one overall is foolhardy at best. The ranking is trash.

All "rankings" are trash, especially in June.

"Rankings" are for CFB. And they are pretty fucking stupid there too, IMO.

PGM
06-09-2010, 08:00 AM
All "rankings" are trash, especially in June.

"Rankings" are for CFB. And they are pretty ****ing stupid there too, IMO.

But, but we are 1 spot away from being in the top 25!

JD10367
06-09-2010, 08:00 AM
I think it's funny that people here say stupid shit and attempt to talk smack to Chargers fans. Uh, Chargers suck!

WTF does that say about the Chiefs?

SD has as many playoff wins in the past 3 years as we have in the last 40.

As someone said earlier, they've put together a talented roster, but just haven't been able to get over the hump. People said the same thing about the Colts for years.

Personally, I'd rather have a team that simply sucks than a talented team that underachieves. At least, when it comes to the suck team, you can say, "Well, they suck, but it's simply 'cause they're not that good." Having a talented team that screws the pooch, not once, but season after season, is infinitely more painful. And it's also easier for people to make fun of them. If a team sucks, they suck. It's honesty. If a team is supposedly good, and blows it, it's cannon fodder. (Trust me, I'm a Patriots fan, I know. Nothing will ever erase the hideous memory of that Giants Super Bowl.)

OnTheWarpath58
06-09-2010, 08:08 AM
Personally, I'd rather have a team that simply sucks than a talented team that underachieves. At least, when it comes to the suck team, you can say, "Well, they suck, but it's simply 'cause they're not that good." Having a talented team that screws the pooch, not once, but season after season, is infinitely more painful. And it's also easier for people to make fun of them. If a team sucks, they suck. It's honesty. If a team is supposedly good, and blows it, it's cannon fodder. (Trust me, I'm a Patriots fan, I know. Nothing will ever erase the hideous memory of that Giants Super Bowl.)

Disagree.

Believe it or not, the Chiefs have been in a similar position to the Chargers.

And couldn't get the job done.

Now we flat out suck.

For me, both have been just as painful.

And FWIW, in SD's case, 3 playoff wins in the past 3 years and an AFC Championship appearance doesn't equate to "blowing it" IMO.

They just weren't good enough.

milkman
06-09-2010, 08:10 AM
Personally, I'd rather have a team that simply sucks than a talented team that underachieves. At least, when it comes to the suck team, you can say, "Well, they suck, but it's simply 'cause they're not that good." Having a talented team that screws the pooch, not once, but season after season, is infinitely more painful. And it's also easier for people to make fun of them. If a team sucks, they suck. It's honesty. If a team is supposedly good, and blows it, it's cannon fodder. (Trust me, I'm a Patriots fan, I know. Nothing will ever erase the hideous memory of that Giants Super Bowl.)

As Chiefs fans we know what it's like to have a SB quality team that doesn't get it done, and having a team that sucks.

I imagine it depends on your perspective, but for me, the playoff losses of the 90s were far less painful, because as long as Marty was the HC, and we kept trotting old used up QBs or other team's castoffs out there, I didn't expect to win a SB.

It pissed me off that we tried to do it that way.

I also didn't believe Dick's Chiefs were a SB quality team.

It pisses me off that we suck so badly now, as well.

I guess in the end, the Chiefs just piss me off.

milkman
06-09-2010, 08:12 AM
Disagree.

Believe it or not, the Chiefs have been in a similar position to the Chargers.

And couldn't get the job done.

Now we flat out suck.

For me, both have been just as painful.

And FWIW, in SD's case, 3 playoff wins in the past 3 years and an AFC Championship appearance doesn't equate to "blowing it" IMO.

They just weren't good enough.

I think they did blow it last year against the Jets.

Tomlinson was/is done, yet Turner kept feeding him the rock, when he has a top flight QB and passing game.

Mile High Mania
06-09-2010, 08:12 AM
Rankings before preseason are pretty pointless. Yes, SD is good, but #1 overall right now? I don't think so... and NO is 8? Whatever.

Brock
06-09-2010, 08:19 AM
And FWIW, in SD's case, 3 playoff wins in the past 3 years and an AFC Championship appearance doesn't equate to "blowing it" IMO.

They just weren't good enough.

Uh. That team should have at least one title by now. They were talented enough.

OnTheWarpath58
06-09-2010, 08:35 AM
I think they did blow it last year against the Jets.

Tomlinson was/is done, yet Turner kept feeding him the rock, when he has a top flight QB and passing game.

Do you blame that on the team, or the coach?

I have a hard time blaming 53 for the actions of 1 dumbass making the decisions.

They didn't have the defense last year to get any further anyway, even had they won, IMO.

OnTheWarpath58
06-09-2010, 08:36 AM
Uh. That team should have at least one title by now. They were talented enough.

Sure. The team was.

Too bad a retard is making the in-game decisions.

You think the Patriots win 3 SB's with a guy like Herm Edwards or Norv Turner at the helm?

Brock
06-09-2010, 08:41 AM
Sure. The team was.

Too bad a retard is making the in-game decisions.

You think the Patriots win 3 SB's with a guy like Herm Edwards or Norv Turner at the helm?

Probably not, but going into it with those guys making the decisions is "blowing it". The team management blew it, and the team on the field followed suit.

milkman
06-09-2010, 08:41 AM
Do you blame that on the team, or the coach?

I have a hard time blaming 53 for the actions of 1 dumbass making the decisions.

They didn't have the defense last year to get any further anyway, even had they won, IMO.

The coach is part of the team.

I blame Marty for the 90s Chiefs inability to advance, but it's still the Chiefs that failed.

The Chargers D has given Manning problems throughout his career.

It's possible they could have at least advanced to the SB.

OnTheWarpath58
06-09-2010, 08:45 AM
The coach is part of the team.

I blame Marty for the 90s Chiefs inability to advance, but it's still the Chiefs that failed.

The Chargers D has given Manning problems throughout his career.

It's possible they could have at least advanced to the SB.

I'm betting they do before it's all said and done.

Rivers is what, 28?

They remind me SO much of the Colts prior to 2006 - just with shitty coaching.

Ugly Duck
06-09-2010, 09:14 AM
Personally, I'd rather have a team that simply sucks than a talented team that underachieves. At least, when it comes to the suck team, you can say, "Well, they suck, but it's simply 'cause they're not that good." Having a talented team that screws the pooch, not once, but season after season, is infinitely more painful. Must be an individual kinda thing, cuz I have an opposite opinion. The Gannon years were far, far preferable to the post-Gannon years in Oaktown. Oh, sure... the pride & enthusiasm never quite reached the ultimate climax, but at least it was fun to be a RaiderFan in the meantime. Conversely, watching Jamarcus mosey on out onto the field generated no feelings beyond nausea and bummerdom. C'mon now, ChiefsFanz... don't tell me you had more fun last season than you did when you won 13 freakin games...

rambleonthruthefog
06-09-2010, 09:21 AM
norv turner is a joke, and him and the chargers will choke again. i've been sayin it for years. looking forward to another choke job by the chargers. the choking of the chargers and broncos and the overall suck by of the raiders has made it a little easier being a chiefs fan the past few seasons. lookin forward to a little redemption.

JD10367
06-09-2010, 09:22 AM
Must be an individual kinda thing, cuz I have an opposite opinion. The Gannon years were far, far preferable to the post-Gannon years in Oaktown. Oh, sure... the pride & enthusiasm never quite reached the ultimate climax, but at least it was fun to be a RaiderFan in the meantime. Conversely, watching Jamarcus mosey on out onto the field generated no feelings beyond nausea and bummerdom. C'mon now, ChiefsFanz... don't tell me you had more fun last season than you did when you won 13 freakin games...

You guys are missing the point. I didn't say it's better to have a suck team than a half-decent team. I said it's better to have a suck team than a talented and underachieving team. In other words, a team that has no excuses but screws the pooch (and, even worse, does it multiple times). The Raiders don't fit that description IMO, not even in the year they went to the SB. They didn't obviously dominate all season and fuck up to the Bucs. Teams that fit this description are the 2007 Patriots, the Colts of the past decade with the exception of their one SB win, and the Chargers of the past half-decade. You might be able to put the Eagles in that category, too, as they've had plenty of talent and chances in the past decade but kept falling short with no good excuse. (I would put the Celtics in there if they blow this Finals to the Lakers because, frankly, I think the Celtics have better players and have no excuses.)

Remember when Fabio rode that rollercoaster in Busch Gardens, and got hit in the face with a goose? It's kind of like that, but with cleats and numbered jerseys.

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-09-2010, 03:15 PM
THIS is their year. Fo sho. They definitely won't find a way to squander superior talent in a shit division and shit the bed in the playoffs. Not this year. Nope.

LMAO



I guess in the end, the Chiefs just piss me off.

LMAO Well said on both counts.

milkman
06-09-2010, 07:01 PM
You guys are missing the point. I didn't say it's better to have a suck team than a half-decent team. I said it's better to have a suck team than a talented and underachieving team. In other words, a team that has no excuses but screws the pooch (and, even worse, does it multiple times). The Raiders don't fit that description IMO, not even in the year they went to the SB. They didn't obviously dominate all season and **** up to the Bucs. Teams that fit this description are the 2007 Patriots, the Colts of the past decade with the exception of their one SB win, and the Chargers of the past half-decade. You might be able to put the Eagles in that category, too, as they've had plenty of talent and chances in the past decade but kept falling short with no good excuse. (I would put the Celtics in there if they blow this Finals to the Lakers because, frankly, I think the Celtics have better players and have no excuses.)

Remember when Fabio rode that rollercoaster in Busch Gardens, and got hit in the face with a goose? It's kind of like that, but with cleats and numbered jerseys.

I disagree with you on the Lakers-Celtics here.

Breaking it down, the Lakers have Kobe and Gasol, who are both better than any single player on the Celtics at this point in their careers, including Rondo, who has a canyon sized hole in his game with his lack of mid range jump shots.


The Lakers also present a matchup problem because of their length.

The one thing the Celtics brought was defensive intensity that I thought would present problems, but they can not seem to sustain it consistently any longer.
It appears they used it all up just getting to the finals.

In '08, Garnett and Pierce were both better than Gasol, but they've aged and are on the downside of their careers.

They, along with a deep bench, were the better team at that time.

Not any more, though.

Tombstone RJ
06-09-2010, 10:42 PM
I stopped reading right here.

Psst.... Hey, lean in close, I have a secret...

:::whispering:::

It matters most to win in the playoffs.

this coming from a chefs fan? seriously? what the hell do you know about winning in the playoffs? ROFL

Last time I checked the Broncos were the last team in the AFCW to win the whole damn thing. The faiders have been a complet joke since their last SB appearance and the chuggers are the only other team in the AFCW to sniff the big dance. Right now, they are the team to beat in the AFCW.

Ugly Duck
06-09-2010, 11:45 PM
Broncos were the last team in the AFCW to win the whole damn thing!

They are the team to beat in the AFCW!

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-King-
06-10-2010, 12:13 AM
this coming from a chefs fan? seriously? what the hell do you know about winning in the playoffs? ROFL

Last time I checked the Broncos were the last team in the AFCW to win the whole damn thing. The faiders have been a complet joke since their last SB appearance and the chuggers are the only other team in the AFCW to sniff the big dance. Right now, they are the team to beat in the AFCW.

He's a Patriots fan you idiot.