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Count Zarth
06-08-2010, 11:52 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/alvin-greene-upsets-vic-r_n_605365.html

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/173089/thumbs/s-ALVIN-GREENE-SOUTH-CAROLINA-SENATE-large.jpg

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- An unemployed military veteran has stunned South Carolina Democratic Party leaders by winning the nomination to challenge Republican U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint.

Thirty-two-year-old Alvin Greene of Manning defeated 64-year-old Vic Rawl of Charleston in Tuesday's primary. Rawl is a former judge and legislator, who had about $186,000 cash available and had already scheduled a fundraising event for Thursday.

Greene raised no money in the contest, had no signs and no website.

Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler says she hasn't seen Greene since he filed to run. She says Greene will be a much weaker candidate than Rawl going into November against tea party favorite DeMint.

She says people who didn't know either candidate and voted alphabetically may help explain Greene's win.

Do YOU know anything about Alvin Greene? Do you have any photos of him? Email us at huffpolitics@huffingtonpost.com.

COLUMBIA, S.C. — An unemployed military veteran who raised no funds and put up no campaign website shocked South Carolina's Democratic Party leadership by capturing the nomination Tuesday to face Republican U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint in November.

With nearly all precincts reporting, Alvin Greene, 32, commanded 59 percent of the vote against 41 percent for former four-term state lawmaker Vic Rawl, 64, who had raised about $186,000 and had to abruptly scrap a late-week fundraiser for the fall.

State Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler said voters unfamiliar with either candidate may have voted alphabetically for Greene over Rawl.

"As far as I know, he never showed up at anything. Vic Rawl has been campaigning everywhere from the time he filed," she said.

Rawl said he was disappointed.

"I would've liked very much to be a candidate against Jim DeMint," Rawl said, describing his sole primary rival as something of a mystery. "I never saw him. I've still never met him."

As for Greene, he couldn't explain it either but thanked voters in a state numb with high unemployment and said: "Let's continue to make history and get South Carolina back to work."

Greene said he spent a total of 13 years in the Air Force and Army before leaving the Army in August.

DeMint, a conservative Republican and tea party darling pursuing a second term, has marshaled a $3.5 million war chest already to face the bare-pockets Democratic underdog.
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Political scientist Scott Huffmon at Winthrop University said the looming DeMint-Greene contest already shapes up in lopsided favor of DeMint and shows South Carolina Democrats lack depth to field strong candidates in every race.

"DeMint's coasting pretty much to re-election," he predicted.

Late Tuesday, stunned Democratic leaders in South Carolina struggled to comprehend how the little-seen candidate upstaged Rawl, a moderate Southern Democrat they viewed as their far stronger bet against DeMint. Rawl's lengthy resume lists four past state House terms and former posts as prosecutor, circuit court judge and more.

DeMint trounced a Charleston lawyer, Susan Gaddy, in the GOP contest to advance.

Count Zarth
06-09-2010, 12:06 AM
Annnnnnnnnd it gets weirder.

http://www.wolfereports.com/tag/alvin-greene/

If it’s some weirdo fringe candidate with no shot, count on the Free Times (http://free-times.com/index.php?cat=1992912064017974&ShowArticle_ID=11011905102861700) government section to find that person and do a 800-word (or less!) profile on them. This week, it was the cipher known as Alvin Greene. He’s 32, recently got out of the Army, unemployed, and living at his dad’s place in rural Clarendon County. For whatever reason, he showed up at S.C. Democratic Party (http://www.scdp.org/) headquarters in March looking to file for the U.S. Senate. But that’s not the weird part.

The strange bit is that he showed up with the $10,400 check for the filing fee. As a personal check. When told it had to come from a campaign account, he evidently went to a bank and quickly came back with a check that could be accepted. Mind you, nobody’s beating U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint (http://www.jimdemint.com/home/). Not now, not ever, unless he gets caught in some epic scandal. The man’s got a gigantic war chest, and the best person the Dems could throw at him, Inez Tenenbaum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inez_Tenenbaum), couldn’t beat him when he didn’t have the added advantage of incumbency. But that’s Vic Rawl (http://www.vicrawl.com/vicrawl/)’s issue to deal with.

What’s so weird about Greene’s effort is the already mentioned circumstances of his life. He says he got the money by saving it up while in the service. Let’s process that for a second. Whether you make six figures or a recently discharged, unemployed soldier, and have zero name recognition or political experience, handing over 10 large to run for Senate is, ah, insane. Then there’s this:Though he says he is running, and running to win, Greene has not taken the steps one might expect from an active candidate — some of them required by law.

He has not filed with the Secretary of the Senate, according to its Washington, D.C. office. Nor has he filed any disclosure reports with the Federal Election Commission, which the FEC requires by law.
No campaign signs appear around the area where he lives, and Greene admits he hasn’t taken in any donations.

When the South Carolina Democratic Party held its convention in April, Greene did not show up.
Reached by phone May 12, and asked how he thought his campaign was going, Greene said, “So far, so good.”
Naturally, this “phantom candidate” brings up two thoughts. One is that he’s certifiably goddamn insane and needs to be put in a padded cell. The other is that he was given the money to run to, we suppose, sabotage Rawl’s campaign. The first is self-evident, but the second can be expanded upon a little bit, which we will try to do here.

Like a detective running down a murder, we look to the usual suspects, which would be the Republicans. But there’s not one way in hell they’d do anything like giving this guy the cash to be on the ballot — at least, nobody closely associated with the Party or the DeMint campaign. As we already said, DeMint’s going to win this in a walk. No reason to get all shady. And from what we understand, the people in positions to do things like that are, well, steadfastly opposed to doing things like that. So they’re out. We look to the other side and say, “Why would a Democrat shell out this cash?” Doesn’t make any sense, so that’s out, too.

This is how we see it: It’s like one of those things that gets a college football program into serious probation with the NCAA. Somebody with loyalties, but no connections to a particular side, and a shit-ton of money, makes life a little interesting. Probably, some wealthy conservative with no real ties to the people that matter decided to burn some money and have some fun with this Senate race. Why? Why do ridiculously wealthy people do anything? Obviously, this little gambit fell through, which is why there aren’t any signs or the proper papers filed.

And that’s where the juicy story is. Finding out who this rich freakshow is and listening to them explain how the idea came about, how the guy was chosen, how the money was doled out and how the plan fell apart. But like so many great stories, it’s likely never to come to light.

BucEyedPea
06-09-2010, 07:13 AM
I just wanna know if he's going to take more of my money away.

alpha_omega
06-09-2010, 09:33 AM
She says people who didn't know either candidate and voted alphabetically may help explain Greene's win.

If that is what really happened, those people shouldn't be voting in the first place.

Baby Lee
06-09-2010, 09:40 AM
If that is what really happened, those people shouldn't be voting in the first place.

Oh! Like in the Jim Crow South, huh?!?!

Count Zarth
06-09-2010, 05:35 PM
This gets better. This dude has child porn charges pending.

Surprise SC Senate candidate has charge pending
By MEG KINNARD (AP) – 48 minutes ago
COLUMBIA, S.C. — South Carolina's surprise Democratic nominee to challenge U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint is facing a pending felony charge.

Court records show 32-year-old Alvin Greene was arrested in November and charged with showing obscene Internet photos to a University of South Carolina student. The felony charge carries up to five years in prison.

Greene said he had no comment when asked about the charge Wednesday and hung up on a reporter.

The unemployed veteran posted bond after his arrest. He has yet to enter a plea or be indicted.

Records indicate Greene showed photos to a woman and talked about going to her room at a university dorm.

On Tuesday, Greene stunned state Democratic Party leaders by winning the nomination. He raised no money and put up no campaign website. He beat former four-term state lawmaker Vic Rawl, 64, who had raised about $186,000 and had to abruptly scrap a late-week fundraiser for the fall.

Greene said he spent a total of 13 years in the Air Force and Army before leaving the Army in August.

DeMint, a conservative Republican and tea party darling pursuing a second term, has marshaled a $3.5 million war chest already to face the bare-pockets Democratic underdog.

Political analysts don't give Greene a chance. Few expected Rawl would have fared better.

Rawl's lengthy resume lists four past state House terms and former posts as prosecutor, circuit court judge and more.

DeMint trounced a Charleston lawyer, Susan Gaddy, in the GOP contest to advance.

HonestChieffan
06-09-2010, 07:04 PM
SC Politics is a freak show.

acesn8s
06-09-2010, 11:04 PM
I think this goes to show how much people are fed up with the estabishment

Rain Man
06-09-2010, 11:09 PM
It's the Lexington and Concord of the battle to get the professional politicians out of political office.

ROYC75
06-10-2010, 09:02 AM
This is such an embarrassment to the DEMS they have already called him to drop out.

Hydrae
06-10-2010, 09:08 AM
This is such an embarrassment to the DEMS they have already called him to drop out.

Haven't the people spoken? The entrenched leadership is showing that they are completely out of touch with their mainstream consituents IMO.

JohnnyV13
06-10-2010, 09:14 AM
I wonder if a Dem party guy gave Greene the money.

From what I understand, you can't raise campaign funds if you are running for a seat unopposed.

Perhaps some dem party guy looked for a totally inappropriate candidate for Rawls to "run" against, so Rawls could get a jump on fund raising, but.....lo and behold he LOST.

Fat Elvis
06-10-2010, 09:15 AM
In the primaries voters are allowed to switch party affiliations and vote on the other ticket. Very few people vote in a primary election so if the tea partiers switched to D's for the purpose of voting in the democratic primary, they could easily get some schmuck (Greene) past the primary so that the real tea party candidate on the republican side would, in effect, have no competition.

The fact that this guy had over $10K for filing fees despite being unemployed and no organized campaign stinks of election tampering.

mlyonsd
06-10-2010, 09:22 AM
Maybe he'll get a call from Rahm....I think Director of National Intelligience Agency is still open isn't it?

Hydrae
06-10-2010, 09:43 AM
BTW, since when does it cost $10K to file to run for a public office? Maybe it has always been expensive to do these filings, I don't have a clue. Kind of eliminates some people from even trying to get involved though I would think.

Rain Man
06-10-2010, 10:09 AM
I was surprised at the cost, too. Maybe it's more expensive with higher offices? I bet city council would be cheap, and maybe POTUS would be really expensive. US Senate is up there.

I'd sure like to do a term in the Senate. Their pension plan is shamwowrrific.

Fat Elvis
06-10-2010, 10:15 AM
BTW, since when does it cost $10K to file to run for a public office? Maybe it has always been expensive to do these filings, I don't have a clue. Kind of eliminates some people from even trying to get involved though I would think.

$10,440....

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/alvin_greene_filing_fee_check.php

Cave Johnson
06-10-2010, 12:25 PM
I can't take credit for this one, but Roger Ebert suggested this guy was a R plant. Clearly someone paid his filing fee.

Fat Elvis
06-10-2010, 12:52 PM
This kind of shit goes on a lot more than people realize. What makes this newsworthy is that this is a primary for a national senate seat rather than a seat in a state legislature.

The reason why we have so many morons in the Kansas legislature is because the vast majority of them are bought and sold by the Koch brothers.

mlyonsd
06-10-2010, 12:59 PM
I can't take credit for this one, but Roger Ebert suggested this guy was a R plant. Clearly someone paid his filing fee.

I'd guess Bush or Cheney. They seem to be getting a lot of credit for things that happen these days.

alpha_omega
06-10-2010, 01:06 PM
Oh! Like in the Jim Crow South, huh?!?!

No, not at all! Just the fact that some would vote for a candidate because their last name starts with a G (or whatever letter happens to come first) seems silly.

Cave Johnson
06-10-2010, 01:08 PM
I'd guess Bush or Cheney. They seem to be getting a lot of credit for things that happen these days.

Karl Rove, yo. Get with the program.

ROYC75
06-10-2010, 01:31 PM
Seriously, what are the Democratic people of SC thinking here ?

pr_capone
06-10-2010, 01:57 PM
This gets better. This dude has child porn charges pending.

Ok, perhaps its the meds but I'm totally missing where this article says anything about child porn.

ROYC75
06-10-2010, 02:02 PM
Post # 6 mentions it, sort of . Alleged charges.

Cave Johnson
06-10-2010, 02:20 PM
Seriously, what are the Democratic people of SC thinking here ?

Probably not the D's, Roy, SC has an open primary.

http://www.alan.com/2010/06/09/why-open-primaries-are-a-really-bad-idea/

Hydrae
06-10-2010, 03:06 PM
Post # 6 mentions it, sort of . Alleged charges.

Nothing about child porn in that article. Inappropriate pictures shown to a college student does not mean child porn.

Hydrae
06-10-2010, 03:08 PM
$10,440....

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/alvin_greene_filing_fee_check.php

But is that kind of price normal to be able to run for a public office? The idea that you have to pay to be able to run alone bothers me, this seems rather expensive.

HonestChieffan
06-10-2010, 03:42 PM
Seriously, what are the Democratic people of SC thinking here ?

Republicans there are terminally stupid too. See Graham, Lindsey