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max sleeper
06-17-2010, 07:13 PM
http://www.kansas.com/2010/06/16/1362708/ap-gfk-poll-bolsters-congressional.html?storylink=fbuser



Posted on Thu, Jun. 17, 2010
AP-GfK Poll bolsters congressional Democrats
By ALAN FRAM and TREVOR TOMPSON
Associated Press Writers

There's encouraging news for Democrats battling to retain control of Congress in this fall's elections, with the party holding a slender edge in public trust for shepherding the economy and slightly more people saying their finances are healthy, according to a new poll.

The reeling economy remains people's top concern, according to an Associated Press-GfK Poll conducted earlier this month, making public attitudes about it crucial for both parties' hopes in November. The good news for Democrats: By a margin of 47 percent to 42 percent, people trust them more than Republicans to guide the economy, and 64 percent - slightly more than in April - say their household budgets are in good shape.

In addition, people want Democrats to win control of Congress by a 46 percent to 39 percent margin. That is the second straight month in which Democrats have held a delicate advantage on that question since April, when 44 percent preferred Republicans and 41 percent picked Democrats.

"When Clinton was in office, we were doing exceptionally well. Then Republicans got in office and we are where we are," said Daniel Lowery, 23, a warehouse worker from Fostoria, Ohio, who wants Democrats to continue leading the House and Senate.

Even so, there's plenty in the poll to encourage Republicans, and nothing that contradicts many analysts' views that the GOP has a solid shot of capturing majorities of one or both chambers of Congress.

The public's anti-Washington mood remains robust, with 55 percent saying they want a new member of Congress - bad news for Democrats with more incumbents to defend. While Republicans strongly prefer a fresh face, Democrats are divided about evenly over whether they want to re-elect their current representatives and 6 in 10 independents want someone new - all ominous signs for congressional Democrats.

In addition, a low 24 percent approve of how Congress is doing its job, a hefty 72 percent still say the nation's economy is in poor condition, and 77 percent consider huge federal budget deficits a top concern.

"It's just my conservative views on taxes, on how involved government gets in people's lives," said Jessica Iskander, 25, a homemaker from Hartly, Del., who wants Republicans running Congress.

People also remain upset about the anemic job market and the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico. President Barack Obama gets mediocre marks for handling the economy, unemployment, the deficit and the oil spill, numbers that over time could rub off on congressional Democrats.

"They're leading us down the wrong road," Raymond Beard, 60, a minister from Crowville, Ala., said of Democrats. "They're doing a lot of things against what I was raised to believe, such as going to a socialist-type government where the government takes care of people instead of people taking care of themselves."

Other questions in the poll point to Democratic advantages.

Congressional Democrats get a thumbs-up from 38 percent, modestly more than the 32 percent who approve of how Capitol Hill Republicans are doing their jobs. When it comes to performance on major issues, Democrats have taken a solid advantage over Republicans on handling health care and have narrowed the GOP edge on defense and immigration.

"You have to spend all this money," John Gillies, 71, of Houston, a Democrat in the oil and gas business, said of why he favors Democratic efforts to revive the economy. "If you try to balance the budget at this point you'll break it, and you have to tax people like me who have money."

Since the April 20 Gulf oil rig explosion triggered a massive leak that remains unplugged, the oil spill has rocketed to such prominence that 87 percent consider it a major concern, trailing only the economy's 91 percent.

Fifty-two percent disapprove of Obama's handling of the crisis, a weak number that parallels the public's dissatisfaction with President George W. Bush's performance in Hurricane Katrina's aftermath in 2005. The one saving grace for Obama - the public is even less happy with BP, with 83 percent condemning its effort to stop its leaking well.

The AP-GfK Poll involved landline and cell phone interviews with 1,044 randomly chosen adults and was conducted by GfK Roper Public Affairs & Corporate Communications from June 9-14. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.3 percentage points.

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AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius and Associated Press writer Natasha Metzler contributed to this report.

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Online:

http://www.ap-gfkpoll.com

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jjjayb
06-17-2010, 07:17 PM
I've seen 3 different polls from AP-GfK in the last week or so that have all painted democrats in a good light. Starting the propoganda machine rolling early I guess.

max sleeper
06-17-2010, 07:26 PM
I've seen 3 different polls from AP-GfK in the last week or so that have all painted democrats in a good light. Starting the propoganda machine rolling early I guess.

You beat me to it! I was gonna post something about the first post being about the "State Run Media" BS! Did you even read it first? It is funny how Fox and Rush and his boys all pump out that BS brainwashing the idiots into listening to them and telling you to not trust any other media outlet. They even do not classify themselves as media!????? Go Chiefs!

headsnap
06-17-2010, 07:50 PM
gee, I wonder what their sample was... :hmmm:

notorious
06-17-2010, 07:53 PM
Once again, what the Democrats have done is not the issue.



It is the process they used that will hurt them badly in the next election.

max sleeper
06-17-2010, 08:10 PM
Once again, what the Democrats have done is not the issue.



It is the process they used that will hurt them badly in the next election.

What do you mean by "hurt" in the next election? Lose the Senate? The House? Does it really look like that is going to happen? Go Chiefs!

Chiefshrink
06-17-2010, 08:30 PM
What do you mean by "hurt" in the next election? Lose the Senate? The House? Does it really look like that is going to happen? Go Chiefs!

You need to do some homework on learning what the Silent Majority is in this country that will absolutely "CRUSH" you Marxist Dems this Nov:rolleyes:

Propaganda polls by the Stalinist Press:rolleyes: PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!ROFL

max sleeper
06-17-2010, 09:08 PM
You need to do some homework on learning what the Silent Majority is in this country that will absolutely "CRUSH" you Marxist Dems this Nov:rolleyes:

Propaganda polls by the Stalinist Press:rolleyes: PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!ROFL

Time to step out of the 1940's pal Marxist-Communist-Socialist the boomers generation thinks our generation gives a damn about your old memories/labels. This is 2010 and time to move on and get with the times. Levin has you suckered! Think for yourself! Go Chiefs!

Chiefshrink
06-17-2010, 09:49 PM
Time to step out of the 1940's pal Marxist-Communist-Socialist the boomers generation thinks our generation gives a damn about your old memories/labels. This is 2010 and time to move on and get with the times. Levin has you suckered! Think for yourself! Go Chiefs!

And you are the perfect classic example of why history is so important to learn so you don't repeat that history which was negative.:rolleyes:

notorious
06-17-2010, 10:16 PM
What do you mean by "hurt" in the next election? Lose the Senate? The House? Does it really look like that is going to happen? Go Chiefs!

They will lose some seats in both, but I hardly think they will lose the majority.



It's a cycle, the people get pissed at the current pieces of shit in office, so they vote and replace them with other pieces of shit.



My one wish is they would just get back to doing things the right way instead of going around the rules. Both sides are guilty of this, and they both deserve the boot.

alanm
06-18-2010, 12:13 AM
Once again, what the Democrats have done is not the issue.



It is the process they used that will hurt them badly in the next election.Besides it is summer. Wait til September when they start refreshing everyone's memory about what complete f*ckups the party in charge of the house and senate have been.

Hydrae
06-18-2010, 07:39 AM
I honestly did not read any further than this:

"When Clinton was in office, we were doing exceptionally well. Then Republicans got in office and we are where we are," said Daniel Lowery, 23, a warehouse worker from Fostoria, Ohio, who wants Democrats to continue leading the House and Senate.

So he was what, 13, when Bush was elected the first time around? And he wants to talk about how good things were when he was between the ages of 5 and 13 when Clinton was president? Give me a break. If you want a quote like that, at least find someone who was an adult during the time period you are discussing. :rolleyes:

patteeu
06-18-2010, 08:21 AM
Once again, what the Democrats have done is not the issue.



It is the process they used that will hurt them badly in the next election.

It will hurt them, but the optimism on the Republican side is higher than it should be, IMO. It will take a huge electoral swing for the Republicans to win a slim majority in the House and a monumental one for them to win one in the Senate. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see the democrats hold on to majorities in both.

And even if the Republicans win slim majorities in one or both houses, there will be little they can do other than stop some of the more extreme initiatives of the WH. As mad as the country is, they're not going to turn over the same control to Republicans that democrats have had since the beginning of last year. I fear that the expectations for an electoral revolution in the fall are considerably overblown.

Edit: I see that you say something similar later in the thread.

patteeu
06-18-2010, 08:23 AM
I honestly did not read any further than this:



So he was what, 13, when Bush was elected the first time around? And he wants to talk about how good things were when he was between the ages of 5 and 13 when Clinton was president? Give me a break. If you want a quote like that, at least find someone who was an adult during the time period you are discussing. :rolleyes:

There's a lot of ignorance out there for the democrats to harvest.

|Zach|
06-18-2010, 08:48 AM
I am not a fan of having the sportsshrink of the left posting threads all the time.

blaise
06-18-2010, 09:02 AM
I hate how the right is always using scare tactics. I'm just glad the left never does.

talastan
06-18-2010, 09:02 AM
Time to step out of the 1940's pal Marxist-Communist-Socialist the boomers generation thinks our generation gives a damn about your old memories/labels. This is 2010 and time to move on and get with the times. Levin has you suckered! Think for yourself! Go Chiefs!

Sorry max, what he should've said was Progressive Dems. That is the label you guys prefer now IIRC.

Bwana
06-18-2010, 11:57 AM
We will find out in November. I think they will get their ass handed to them as a group.

ClevelandBronco
06-18-2010, 12:23 PM
Think for yourself!

There's something pathetic about a guy admonishing all of us to think for ourselves and citing a public opinion poll to bolster his position.

Huffmeister
06-18-2010, 01:31 PM
I am not a fan of having the sportsshrink of the left posting threads all the time.

Go Chiefs!

ChiTown
06-18-2010, 01:38 PM
There's something pathetic about a guy admonishing all of us to think for ourselves and citing a public opinion poll to bolster his position.

ROFL

rep

patteeu
06-18-2010, 02:10 PM
FTR, I'm still buying it. In fact, I'm buying in bulk and reselling on the internet.