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The Pedestrian
06-22-2010, 11:39 AM
http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2010/06/22/babys-first-bacteria-depend-on-birth-route.html

Baby’s First Bacteria Depend on Birth Route
C-section newborns may harbor fewer helpful microbes than infants born vaginally
By Rachel Ehrenberg, Science News

It’s the journey, not the destination,that determines the quality of bacteria a newborn encounters in life’s first moments.

A new survey finds that babies born via cesarean section had markedly different bacteria on their skin, noses mouths and rectums than babies born vaginally. The research adds to evidence that babies born via C-section may miss out on beneficial bacteria passed on by their mothers.


“We know from lots and lots of other ecosystems that how you set up the house has a real impact for all the later guests,” says medical microbiologist David Relman of the Stanford University School of Medicine, who was not involved in the study.

Previous research suggests that babies born via C-section are more likely to develop allergies, asthma and other immune system–related troubles than are babies born the traditional way. The new study, to be published online the week of June 21 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, offers a detailed look at the early stages of the body’s colonization by microbes, critters that shape the developing immune system, help extract nutrients from food and keep harmful microbes at bay.

Babies born vaginally were colonized predominantly by Lactobacillus, microbes that aid in milk digestion, the research team from the University of Puerto Rico, the University of Colorado in Boulder and two Venezuelan institutes report. The C-section babies were colonized by a mixture of potentially nasty bacteria typically found on the skin and in hospitals, such as Staphylococcus and Acinetobacter.

The new work may improve understanding of the early immune system, says Gary Huffnagle of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. While C-sections can be lifesaving in some cases, the procedure appears to shift a baby’s first bacterial community. A better understanding of this early colonization, which is also influenced by events such as breast-feeding, may lead to medical practices for establishing healthy bacterial colonization.

“This isn’t damning the C-section, but it may be important to make sure your child gets a mouthful of vaginal material,” says Huffnagle.

The study included nine women and their 10 newborns (including one set of twins) born at the Puerto Ayacucho Hospital in the state of Amazonas, Venezuela. The mothers’ skin, mouths and vaginas were sampled an hour before delivery. Babies’ mouths and skin were swabbed immediately after birth, and their rectums were swabbed after their first bowel movement. DNA analysis revealed that the four babies born vaginally carried bacterial populations that matched those of their mothers’ vaginas, while the C-section babies had a more generic mixture of skin bacteria, similar to that found on the skin of all the moms.

“The vaginal birth was like a fingerprint of mom,” says study coauthor María Domínguez-Bello of the University of Puerto Rico in San Juan.

First-comers to the body are critical for establishing the microbial scene, says pediatrician Josef Neu of the University of Florida in Gainesville. “It’s like a garden where few, if any, seeds have been planted. If you push in one direction you might get a lot of weeds, a lack of diversity,” Neu says. “That can be associated with immune system problems.”

Some work suggests colonization may begin even earlier. While the paradigm has been that babies are sterile until birth, Neu’s recent work found a microbial community already dwelling in the first poop of some babies born prematurely. While a baby is in the uterus, it typically swallows 400 to 500 milliliters of amniotic fluid, which may harbor some of the mother’s microbes, Neu speculates.

JD10367
06-22-2010, 12:14 PM
May I receive vaginal bacteria until I'm a ripe old age. :dom:

seclark
06-22-2010, 12:16 PM
if you can get passed the bacteria, you've got it licked.
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tyton75
06-22-2010, 12:35 PM
thats freaking gross

tooge
06-22-2010, 12:37 PM
spent nine months trying to get out and the rest of my life trying to get back in

Mr. Laz
06-22-2010, 12:39 PM
wow ... slayer sighting

Pants
06-22-2010, 12:59 PM
thats freaking gross

Huh? Not a big fan of the ol' vagina, eh? :D

Jilly
06-22-2010, 01:12 PM
I don't think we need another reason to make moms feel guilty. First it's - you're a horrible mom if you don't breastfeed. Now it's - you make your baby sicker by having c sections. I think we carry enough of the load of having a child for the medical genre to find yet one more reason to make us feel shitty because the birthing process wasn't perfect.

JD10367
06-22-2010, 01:43 PM
I hear yogurt is also good bacteria. Thus, I can only assume that we should be licking yogurt out of vaginas in order to stay healthy. :thumb:

tooge
06-22-2010, 01:48 PM
I don't think we need another reason to make moms feel guilty. First it's - you're a horrible mom if you don't breastfeed. Now it's - you make your baby sicker by having c sections. I think we carry enough of the load of having a child for the medical genre to find yet one more reason to make us feel shitty because the birthing process wasn't perfect.

Everyone forgives you if you give up the hoochy though

The Pedestrian
06-22-2010, 01:59 PM
I don't think we need another reason to make moms feel guilty. First it's - you're a horrible mom if you don't breastfeed. Now it's - you make your baby sicker by having c sections. I think we carry enough of the load of having a child for the medical genre to find yet one more reason to make us feel shitty because the birthing process wasn't perfect.

I think it puts more pressure on the doctors and nurses than anything. They have the capability of giving the baby a vagina-bacteria bath of sorts after a c-section. While some women would unfortunately feel guilty before going in, the hospitals will realize pretty quickly they need to add this kind of reassurance to the "ways this baby can be born" talk.

Hydrae
06-22-2010, 02:04 PM
I don't think we need another reason to make moms feel guilty. First it's - you're a horrible mom if you don't breastfeed. Now it's - you make your baby sicker by having c sections. I think we carry enough of the load of having a child for the medical genre to find yet one more reason to make us feel shitty because the birthing process wasn't perfect.

I have gotten the definite impression over the years that c-sections are basically routine anymore. I swear the doctor for my daughter did a c-section late in the afternoon so he could go home for dinner without worrying about having to come back to the hospital later that night. I have no evidence, just a strong suspicion.

MagicHef
06-22-2010, 03:25 PM
I have gotten the definite impression over the years that c-sections are basically routine anymore. I swear the doctor for my daughter did a c-section late in the afternoon so he could go home for dinner without worrying about having to come back to the hospital later that night. I have no evidence, just a strong suspicion.

C-section rates are much higher in the late afternoon and late evening than any other time of day. I will try to find a link to show this, but I know it's true. Draw your own conclusions as to why this would be.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-22-2010, 04:00 PM
LMAO Rep for the one bolded statement.

threebag02
06-22-2010, 04:05 PM
I hear yogurt is also good bacteria. Thus, I can only assume that we should be licking yogurt out of vaginas in order to stay healthy. :thumb:

I'm fuckin what I'm eatin but I aint eatin what I'm fuckin

HoneyBadger
06-22-2010, 04:11 PM
Puke!

Donger
06-22-2010, 04:15 PM
Speaking or births, I'd like to know of same unusual places Planeteers were born. For instance: "I was born in a cab!" or "I was born on an airplane!"

I was actually born at home, which I guess is a little unusual.

cabletech94
06-22-2010, 04:23 PM
yeah, i just threw up a little in my mouth just now.

BigMeatballDave
06-22-2010, 04:26 PM
I'm not feeling good. I could use a mouthful of vaginal material right now...

Donger
06-22-2010, 04:28 PM
yeah, i just threw up a little in my mouth just now.

Was it coochie juice?

bevischief
06-22-2010, 04:54 PM
Babies need KY?....

Simply Red
06-22-2010, 05:03 PM
Girls best wash that pussy up!

Fish
06-22-2010, 05:18 PM
Vagiburst, Vaginal Bacteria Mouthwash... For Babies.

SC Johnson

Because healthy babies use Vagiburst. On sale now!

The Pedestrian
06-22-2010, 05:18 PM
LMAO Rep for the one bolded statement.

Bolding that statement was the only reason I even posted the article at all. :)

listopencil
06-22-2010, 05:33 PM
I don't think we need another reason to make moms feel guilty. First it's - you're a horrible mom if you don't breastfeed. Now it's - you make your baby sicker by having c sections. I think we carry enough of the load of having a child for the medical genre to find yet one more reason to make us feel shitty because the birthing process wasn't perfect.

If it will make you feel better I will take a mouthful of your vaginal material.

bevischief
06-22-2010, 06:46 PM
Is this the start for BJs for babies...





:D

JD10367
06-22-2010, 07:10 PM
Is this the start for BJs for babies...

:D

Gotta start the boys on the poontang at a very early age, apparently. But there's something just... WRONG... about the idea.

I have a solution. How about, as soon as the baby's born, you rub him in ANOTHER woman's vagina? Yeah, that'll do it!

cabletech94
06-22-2010, 07:24 PM
Was it coochie juice?

that's so funny, i didn't notice it at first!

coochie rep.


barfffffff.

el borracho
06-22-2010, 07:24 PM
There is some high-culture advice in this thread.