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Farzin
06-23-2010, 06:59 AM
Interesting poll. I thought Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson would dominate. But fans think someone else will lead the NFL in rushing yards. Maybe Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones combined can help the Chiefs have the number one running game this season, maybe top five. They've got a bad schedule. But I doubt one or the other will lead the league in rushing unless someone gets hurt early on and it becomes a one man show.

It caught me off by surprise that the 'other' choice out voted CJ and AP.



As of 8:00 AM CST

4%--Steven Jackson
26%--Chris Johnson
5%--Maurice Jones-Drew
25%--Adrian Peterson
10%--Ray Rice
30%--Somebody else

-King-
06-23-2010, 07:06 AM
Interesting poll. I thought Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson would dominate. But fans think someone else will lead the NFL in rushing yards. Maybe Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones combined can help the Chiefs have the number one running game this season, maybe top five. They've got a bad schedule. But I doubt one or the other will lead the league in rushing unless someone gets hurt early on and it becomes a one man show.

It caught me off by surprise that the 'other' choice out voted CJ and AP.



As of 8:00 AM CST

4%--Steven Jackson
26%--Chris Johnson
5%--Maurice Jones-Drew
25%--Adrian Peterson
10%--Ray Rice
30%--Somebody else
Doesn't really surprise me. Homers will vote for their teams RBs so you have Charger fans thinking Matthews will lead the NFL, bills fans thinking spiller will, Bengals fans thinking Benson will, etc. So they all vote "other".
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Sofa King
06-23-2010, 07:06 AM
Looks like 30% of the overall voters are homers who didn't have a rb from their team as an option...

Sofa King
06-23-2010, 07:06 AM
Doesn't really surprise me. Homers will vote for their teams RBs so you have Charger fans thinking Matthews will lead the NFL, bills fans thinking spiller will, Bengals fans thinking Benson will, etc. So they all vote "other".
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damn you..... beat me by seconds....

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 07:18 AM
Watch out for Knowshon Moreno.

BossChief
06-23-2010, 07:22 AM
Watch out for Knowshon Moreno.

I bet you voted about 600 times for "other"

Ill bet anything board related that Jamaal has a more productive year than Knowshon.

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TheGuardian
06-23-2010, 07:22 AM
Watch out for Knowshon Moreno.

Not really. He sucks.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 07:23 AM
I bet you voted about 600 times for "other"

Ill bet anything board related that Jamaal has a more productive year than Knowshon.

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I will have to watch the preseason first. That is when I make all of my predictions.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 07:26 AM
Not really. He sucks.

Knowshon was late getting into camp and also hurt his knee in the first preseason game. He missed a lot of reps last year and all of the beat writers say that he looks impressive.

BossChief
06-23-2010, 07:26 AM
I will have to watch the preseason first. That is when I make all of my predictions.

fuck preseason...Ill even give you a injury out. If either back misses more than 4 games, bets off.

lift up your skirt, grab your balls and stand behind your bs for once, or just be a pussy.

TheGuardian
06-23-2010, 07:27 AM
Knowshon was late getting into camp and also hurt his knee in the first preseason game. He missed a lot of reps last year and all of the beat writers say that he looks impressive.

Backs don't really need camp and all that shit. It's an instinctive position. That's why rookies can come in and play at a high level right away. Knowshon is going to be incredibly average.

BossChief
06-23-2010, 07:29 AM
If you put Charles behind the line Denver backs ran behind last year and he might have gone for 2000. KCs line sucked and he blew up.

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TheGuardian
06-23-2010, 07:29 AM
I bet you voted about 600 times for "other"

Ill bet anything board related that Jamaal has a more productive year than Knowshon.

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Can I get in on some of this action? JC will outrush Moreno by 500 yards on the season.

BossChief
06-23-2010, 07:31 AM
Can I get in on some of this action? JC will outrush Moreno by 500 yards on the season.

Dude doesn't even have the sack to make one bet to back his foolish claims, let alone multiple ones.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 07:33 AM
**** preseason...Ill even give you a injury out. If either back misses more than 4 games, bets off.

lift up your skirt, grab your balls and stand behind your bs for once, or just be a pussy.

Denver will have a new LG and C this year plus Clady might be out. I also want to see how Demaryius Thomas and Eddie Royal look. I also don't know if McD plans on using Tebow. If McD runs a lot of wildcat this year Knowshon should have a monster season.

No predictions/bets until I see two or three preseason games.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 07:34 AM
Dude doesn't even have the sack to make one bet to back his foolish claims, let alone multiple ones.

It would be a foolish bet for me to make without seeing how the team looks.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 07:36 AM
Backs don't really need camp and all that shit. It's an instinctive position. That's why rookies can come in and play at a high level right away. Knowshon is going to be incredibly average.

He did lead all rookies in rushing yards last year. Knowshon has said himself he was thinking way too much last year and missed a bunch of holes because he was uncertain of the plays. Nobody really knew that offense last year so it wasn't like Knowshon could get a lot of help from anyone. Denver should have a much better offense this year because everyone is in year 2 in the system.

BossChief
06-23-2010, 07:40 AM
Denver will have a new LG and C this year plus Clady might be out. I also want to see how Demaryius Thomas and Eddie Royal look. I also don't know if McD plans on using Tebow. If McD runs a lot of wildcat this year Knowshon should have a monster season.

No predictions/bets until I see two or three preseason games.

puss

according to you, all of those guys are well on the way to the HOF and your team will win a playoff spot, whats all the fear derived from all of a sudden by the boards biggest homer ever?

Your all pro DL should be shutting down running games and you guys should be playing with leads all year long, so it should be no problem for Championship Moreno to outrush a running back on a 4 win team that didn't do much to improve its run defense and should be passing most of the time and when they aren't, he will presumably split carries with Thomas Jones.

Lift up that skirt, Sally and back your words with some conviction for once. Everybody knows that preseason shows basically nothing for how a running game will look when the real bullets start flying...even you.

BossChief
06-23-2010, 07:44 AM
Knowshit, if you think your guy is a better back than Charles after seeing both in action, you are...well....you.

Stand up and put it on the line if you really believe it.

King_Chief_Fan
06-23-2010, 08:08 AM
The obvious answer to who will be leading the NFL in rushing is Larry f'n Johnson :eek: :D

TheGuardian
06-23-2010, 08:15 AM
He did lead all rookie's in rushing yards last year. Knowshon has said himself he was thinking way too much last year and missed a bunch of holes because he was uncertain of the plays. Nobody really knew that offense last year so it wasn't like Knowshon could get a lot of help from anyone. Denver should have a much better offense this year because everyone is in year 2 in the system.

Knowshon sucks dude. Deal with it.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 08:30 AM
Knowshit, if you think your guy is a better back than Charles after seeing both in action, you are...well....you.

Stand up and put it on the line if you really believe it.

He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed. Hopefully Charles tears it up this year so I can read all of the funny ass threads when Clark Hunt refuses to pay him when Charles becomes a free agent after this year.

milkman
06-23-2010, 08:35 AM
He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed. Hopefully Charles tears it up this year so I can read all of the funny ass threads when Clark Hunt refuses to pay him when Charles becomes a free agent after this year.

:facepalm:

You are a ****ing idiot.

You don't have a ****ing clue.

I am not as down on Moreno as some others here, but your evaluation of Charles here is a ****ing joke, just like you dumbass.

Dave Lane
06-23-2010, 08:36 AM
He did lead all rookies in rushing yards last year. Knowshon has said himself he was thinking way too much last year and missed a bunch of holes because he was uncertain of the plays. Nobody really knew that offense last year so it wasn't like Knowshon could get a lot of help from anyone. Denver should have a much better offense this year because everyone is in year 2 in the system.

Then take the bet you smarmy little worm

BossChief
06-23-2010, 08:36 AM
He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed.

:facepalm:

only in your mind, pussy

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-23-2010, 08:38 AM
With these kind of player evaluation skills I'm sure Knowmo is a regular in the basement of his fantasy leagues ROFL

dj56dt58
06-23-2010, 08:45 AM
With these kind of player evaluation skills I'm sure Knowmo is a regular in the basement of his fantasy leagues ROFL

Yahoo probably kicks his ass off as soon as he enters his name

DBOSHO
06-23-2010, 08:56 AM
He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed. Hopefully Charles tears it up this year so I can read all of the funny ass threads when Clark Hunt refuses to pay him when Charles becomes a free agent after this year.

Well thats certainly one of the silliest things ive ever read on here.

SDChiefs
06-23-2010, 09:41 AM
How is Knowmo still in the green? Morbid entertainment?

BossChief
06-23-2010, 09:44 AM
How is Knowmo still in the green? Morbid entertainment?

Hes got friends in high places.

Part of me is glad he does, if he was ran off into the red he would likely be gone by now and we would all miss the comic relief.

Admit it, its gold.

ChiefButthurt
06-23-2010, 09:46 AM
Denver will have a new LG and C this year plus Clady might be out. I also want to see how Demaryius Thomas and Eddie Royal look. I also don't know if McD plans on using Tebow. If McD runs a lot of wildcat this year Knowshon should have a monster season.

No predictions/bets until I see two or three preseason games.

pussy

King_Chief_Fan
06-23-2010, 10:38 AM
Hes got friends in high places.

Part of me is glad he does, if he was ran off into the red he would likely be gone by now and we would all miss the comic relief.

Admit it, its gold.

that is true.........he is the GoChiefs in Bronco Land

Farzin
06-23-2010, 10:47 AM
For those saying that homers vote for their team; Yes, there are a lot of homers that will vote for the 'other' option, but the winner usually goes to the most appropriate player, in this case, CJ or AP. That is why it caught me off by surprise.

thurman merman
06-23-2010, 11:11 AM
I will have to watch the preseason first. That is when I make all of my predictions.

ROFL

What a sackless turdbuckle.

Hog Farmer
06-23-2010, 01:05 PM
It would be a foolish bet for me to make without seeing how the team looks.

I can tell you right now how your team will look because your Head Coach is a moron.

Hog Farmer
06-23-2010, 01:07 PM
He did lead all rookies in rushing yards last year. Knowshon has said himself he was thinking way too much last year and missed a bunch of holes because he was uncertain of the plays. Nobody really knew that offense last year so it wasn't like Knowshon could get a lot of help from anyone. Denver should have a much better offense this year because everyone is in year 2 in the system.


ROFL

Hog Farmer
06-23-2010, 01:10 PM
He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed. Hopefully Charles tears it up this year so I can read all of the funny ass threads when Clark Hunt refuses to pay him when Charles becomes a free agent after this year.


And Rep !

-King-
06-23-2010, 01:17 PM
He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed. Hopefully Charles tears it up this year so I can read all of the funny ass threads when Clark Hunt refuses to pay him when Charles becomes a free agent after this year.

So if he's much better, why are you scared to take the bet?


And Charles averaged more than 2 ypc more than Kno-show. He did in 100 carries what kno-show did in 200. He also had a worse line.


And I wish I was at my computer so I could post the gif of Knowshon getting blown up by Mike Brown. Yes mike brown. Rep if someone posts it. I know its in GoChiefs' gif'd up thread.
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MoreLemonPledge
06-23-2010, 01:23 PM
I just find it funny that KnowMo says Knowshon Moreno and then immediately backs down.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 01:29 PM
I just find it funny that KnowMo says Knowshon Moreno and then immediately backs down.

I'm not backing down. I don't know what the hell our offense is going to look like this year. I just want to see what we do in preseason before I make a sig bet. My sig kicks ass and I don't want to lose it.

Farzin
06-23-2010, 01:32 PM
I'm not backing down. I don't know what the hell our offense is going to look like this year. I just want to see what we do in preseason for I make a sig bet. My sig kicks ass and I don't want to lose it.

No one knows what their team will exactly be like. That is the point of making a bet right now because no one knows. Fair game. Man up since you have nothing but positive things to say about your team.

bowener
06-23-2010, 02:23 PM
He is a much better back than Charles. Jamal Charles isn't as tough a runner as Moreno, he can't pass block as good as Moreno, he can't catch as well as Moreno... The only thing Charles has over him is speed. Hopefully Charles tears it up this year so I can read all of the funny ass threads when Clark Hunt refuses to pay him when Charles becomes a free agent after this year.

Knowmo, you gotta give credit where credit is due, and how are you going to say you need to watch preseason first.... if McDaniels plans on using much wildcat he will show none of that in preseason (maybe a play or 2).

This isn't even that good of a highlight video, mostly just his long runs, but over half of them show him busting through arm tackles and breaking tackles with power and strength. I don't think any of us are saying he is LJ in his first starts as a Chief, but he isn't exactly a puss and goes down on first contact (ever really). Even after getting illegally suplexed (and after the whistle) by a mongoloid retard, Charles came back in the game and gained more than 100+ yards rushing after that.

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There I added Moreno highlights too. I'm not saying he sucks, he's a solid starter, but so is Charles.

Had to add this... (warning - loud, turn it down first)
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edit:

I need to add that I am fucking excited that we may have finally added an Ed Reed type player/hitter to our defense.

bowener
06-23-2010, 02:27 PM
I'm not backing down. I don't know what the hell our offense is going to look like this year. I just want to see what we do in preseason for I make a sig bet. My sig kicks ass and I don't want to lose it.

Hell, if anything you have the advantage. McD has to play his high paid RB, and the chiefs now have two viable starters at HB... Charles is going to split a lot of carries and yards. Honestly, you should take this bet now based upon that.

Hog Farmer
06-23-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm not backing down. I don't know what the hell our offense is going to look like this year. I just want to see what we do in preseason for I make a sig bet. My sig kicks ass and I don't want to lose it.

I want you to keep your sig as is for at least one more year so we can point it out everytime McDumbass continues to dismantle your team.

Hog Farmer
06-23-2010, 02:34 PM
Just think , after McDumbass runs off Knowshon, then you can just change your user name to Tebowpenisenvy

bowener
06-23-2010, 02:35 PM
I want you to keep your sig as is for at least one more year so we can point it out everytime McDumbass continues to dismantle your team.

Actually, that could be the best punishment for losing the bet.

King_Chief_Fan
06-23-2010, 02:56 PM
I'm not backing down. I don't know what the hell our offense is going to look like this year. I just want to see what we do in preseason for I make a sig bet. My sig kicks ass and I don't want to lose it.

sounds like pussy back peddeling to me.

Von Dumbass
06-23-2010, 03:10 PM
Jamal Charles is a fast back that reminds me of a young Tatum Bell. I don't know how McDaniels plans on using Knowshon. Last year Knowshon and Buckhalter would swap series.

Los Pollos Hermanos
06-23-2010, 03:10 PM
Watch out for Knowshon Moreno.

Who? This guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hqGroNreE

vailpass
06-23-2010, 03:13 PM
sounds like pussy back peddeling to me.

The kid offered an opinion which last time I checked costs nothing. To place a wager on an opinion is another matter. The fact that he wants to gather sufficient data before committing to a be tells me two things:
1-he is wise enough not to bet with his heart over his head
2-he intends to pay his bet if he loses and therefore doesn't bet rashly

Knowmo's biggest crime is being a homer on an adversary's bb.

SDChiefs
06-23-2010, 03:42 PM
Mods should step in and force the bet. Da Face?

footballguy84
06-23-2010, 04:15 PM
I don't think Peterson stands a chance to lead this coming year, especially if Favre stays in Minnesota. With Harvin playing the slot I can see a more pass heavy offense with Peterson playing the "mix it up" role.

kysirsoze
06-23-2010, 04:46 PM
Mods should step in and force the bet. Da Face?

That would cheapen it. If he doesn't think enough of Moreno to make the bet then that just means he's knows a bad bet when he sees one. It seems to me that there's more dishonor in not taking the bet than losing it, but that's his choice.

RNR
06-23-2010, 04:50 PM
I would not be shocked to see your boy Charles among the leaders this year. If he stays healthy he is a spark plug~

Detoxing
06-23-2010, 04:56 PM
I would not be shocked to see your boy Charles among the leaders this year. If he stays healthy he is a spark plug~

That would be my only concern making the bet. If he stays healthy. If they both play 16 games, no doubt Charles would post better numbers running and catching.

Im not down on Moreno....but we've seen that kind of back over and over and over again. Nothing special. He hasn't shown he's a great back yet, doubt he ever will.

Charles OTOH.....Aside from Chris Johnson, we haven't seen a back like him since Billy White Shoes Johnson.

Farzin
06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
Who? This guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-hqGroNreE

Oh but don't forget! According to KnowMo, Jamaal Charles is a pussy after receiving a WWE-type suplex, yet he got back up and played. Moreno gets knocked and goes to the sideline!

Ugly Duck
06-23-2010, 06:37 PM
Bill Williamson is a Denver homer that now writes for ESPN. Here's how he ranks his top 5 AFCW RBs:

1. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City: I think this guy is the next great running back star in the NFL. If the Chiefs can keep Charles healthy, he will be dynamite. He is a game breaker and hes fun to watch. He ended the 2009 season with a 259-yard performance against Denver. I think that was a hint of big things to come from the player who is entering his third NFL season.

2. Thomas Jones, Kansas City: If the Chiefs are going to make big strides as a team in 2010, it will be because of their terrific 1-2 running back punch. Jones may be one of the best additions in the NFL this offseason. He will be 32 in August, but can still help in a big way. He was third in the NFL in rushing last season with 1,402 yards. He had 14 touchdowns. The guy can play.

3. Darren Sproles, San Diego: Sproles is a role player, but he is a spectacular role player. He can change games as a change-of-pace runner with his game-breaking ability. He is a dangerous receiver out of the backfield. When kept fresh, Sproles is a difference maker.

4. Michael Bush, Oakland: I really like this player. He is pounder that can wear defenses down. But he has to show his consistency. Perhaps this will be the season in which Bush breaks out for the 1,100- to 1,400-yard rushing season I think he is capable of achieving.

5. Knowshon Moreno, Denver: This is an interesting season for Moreno. He started well as a rookie last season, but slowed considerably as the season wore on. Denver has worked on getting a bigger offensive line and it is hoping that Moreno will be better prepared for the long haul. He is a talented player, but he needs to show he can stay consistent for an entire season and he needs to show more explosiveness than he did as the No. 12 overall pick last season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/12974

milkman
06-23-2010, 07:32 PM
That would be my only concern making the bet. If he stays healthy. If they both play 16 games, no doubt Charles would post better numbers running and catching.

Im not down on Moreno....but we've seen that kind of back over and over and over again. Nothing special. He hasn't shown he's a great back yet, doubt he ever will.

Charles OTOH.....Aside from Chris Johnson, we haven't seen a back like him since Billy White Shoes Johnson.

Billy White Shoes Johnson was a WR who was used primarily as a returner.

milkman
06-23-2010, 07:35 PM
Jamal Charles is a fast back that reminds me of a young Tatum Bell. I don't know how McDaniels plans on using Knowshon. Last year Knowshon and Buckhalter would swap series.

JFC, you are a fucking moron.

What does it take to be this fucking stupid?
How is it even fucking possible?

Tatum Bell?

LMAO

Farzin
06-23-2010, 07:56 PM
Bill Williamson is a Denver homer that now writes for ESPN. Here's how he ranks his top 5 AFCW RBs:

1. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City: I think this guy is the next great running back star in the NFL. If the Chiefs can keep Charles healthy, he will be dynamite. He is a game breaker and hes fun to watch. He ended the 2009 season with a 259-yard performance against Denver. I think that was a hint of big things to come from the player who is entering his third NFL season.

2. Thomas Jones, Kansas City: If the Chiefs are going to make big strides as a team in 2010, it will be because of their terrific 1-2 running back punch. Jones may be one of the best additions in the NFL this offseason. He will be 32 in August, but can still help in a big way. He was third in the NFL in rushing last season with 1,402 yards. He had 14 touchdowns. The guy can play.

3. Darren Sproles, San Diego: Sproles is a role player, but he is a spectacular role player. He can change games as a change-of-pace runner with his game-breaking ability. He is a dangerous receiver out of the backfield. When kept fresh, Sproles is a difference maker.

4. Michael Bush, Oakland: I really like this player. He is pounder that can wear defenses down. But he has to show his consistency. Perhaps this will be the season in which Bush breaks out for the 1,100- to 1,400-yard rushing season I think he is capable of achieving.

5. Knowshon Moreno, Denver: This is an interesting season for Moreno. He started well as a rookie last season, but slowed considerably as the season wore on. Denver has worked on getting a bigger offensive line and it is hoping that Moreno will be better prepared for the long haul. He is a talented player, but he needs to show he can stay consistent for an entire season and he needs to show more explosiveness than he did as the No. 12 overall pick last season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/12974Moreno not even part of the top four. Most divisions will have a running back from each team ranked in the top four. OUCH! :D

TheGuardian
06-23-2010, 09:03 PM
Jamal Charles is a fast back that reminds me of a young Tatum Bell. I don't know how McDaniels plans on using Knowshon. Last year Knowshon and Buckhalter would swap series.

Tatum fucking Bell?

And a young Tatum Bell at that, like the guy had a great career but then faded in his 30's.

WTF? Tatum fucking Bell???????????

Do you think before you write this shit?

BossChief
06-24-2010, 01:24 AM
Jamal Charles is a fast back that reminds me of a young Tatum Bell. I don't know how McDaniels plans on using Knowshon. Last year Knowshon and Buckhalter would swap series.

I feel sorry for your mother.

KCrockaholic
06-24-2010, 01:34 AM
Jamal Charles is a fast back that reminds me of a young Tatum Bell. I don't know how McDaniels plans on using Knowshon. Last year Knowshon and Buckhalter would swap series.

Tatum Bell and Jamaal Charles is a HORRIBLE comparison! Don't be fuckin retarded!

BossChief
06-24-2010, 01:40 AM
The jacked up part is that isnt the first time he has made that comparison.

He really believes it.

KCrockaholic
06-24-2010, 01:43 AM
The jacked up part is that isnt the first time he has made that comparison.

He really believes it.

Yeah I know, I've seen him do it before, but mentioning it twice is just dumb. It's sad the only guy he can even think of to compare him to is a former failure Bronco. That shows how little he knows about football.

salame
06-24-2010, 02:37 AM
moar leik Mike Bell

Von Dumbass
06-24-2010, 04:15 AM
Tatum ****ing Bell?

And a young Tatum Bell at that, like the guy had a great career but then faded in his 30's.

WTF? Tatum ****ing Bell???????????

Do you think before you write this shit?

Tatum Bell first 2 years in the league
Carries 248
Yards 1317
YPC 5.3
TD's 11
Fumbles 4

Jamaal Charles first 2 years in the league
Carries 257
Yards 1477
YPC 5.7
TD's 7
Fumbles 4

Pretty much identical numbers.

BossChief
06-24-2010, 05:43 AM
Tatum Bell first 2 years in the league
Carries 248
Yards 1317
YPC 5.3
TD's 11
Fumbles 4

Jamaal Charles first 2 years in the league
Carries 257
Yards 1477
YPC 5.7
TD's 7
Fumbles 4

Pretty much identical numbers.
haha

Tatem ran behind one of the best lines in the NFL on a team with a very good passing game...Charles was behind one of the worst with no passing game to speak of.

A pure example of how stats dont tell the whole story.

You put Jamaal behind that line and in that offense and he is a 2000 yard back.

If you believe that Knowshon is a better back, you should back your words with some nuts...if you have any.

TheGuardian
06-24-2010, 07:09 AM
Tatum Bell first 2 years in the league
Carries 248
Yards 1317
YPC 5.3
TD's 11
Fumbles 4

Jamaal Charles first 2 years in the league
Carries 257
Yards 1477
YPC 5.7
TD's 7
Fumbles 4

Pretty much identical numbers.

First off, numbers have nothing to do with "reminding" someone of a player.

Tatum Bell was nothing more than another back who had better numbers than his ability for a season or so because of the system the donkeys ran at the time. No different than Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Orlandis Gary, Clinton Portis, on and on and on.

Charles is in a completely different galaxy than Tatum Bell and everyone is pretty much aware of that. No one knows who the fuck Tatum Bell is anymore and Charles is a guy that could push for the rushing title this year.

Please screw your head on straight.

Von Dumbass
06-24-2010, 07:14 AM
Tatem ran behind one of the best lines in the NFL on a team with a very good passing game...Charles was behind one of the worst with no passing game to speak of.



And Jamal Charles got all of his yards against bad run defenses.

Jamal Charles 100 yard games
Oakland 29th against the run
Buffalo 30th against the run
Cleveland 28th against the run
Cinci 7th against the run (they were resting starters and already had a playoff spot locked up)
Denver 26th against the run

How did Charles do against top 10 run defenses?

Against Baltimore he had 8 yards
Against Philly he had 36 yards
Against Pittsburgh he had 58 yards
Against Dallas he had 8 yards

So yeah.... that is why I compare Charles to Tatum Bell. He is a speed demon but that is about it.

-King-
06-24-2010, 08:36 AM
And Jamal Charles got all of his yards against bad run defenses.

Jamal Charles 100 yard games
Oakland 29th against the run
Buffalo 30th against the run
Cleveland 28th against the run
Cinci 7th against the run (they were resting starters and already had a playoff spot locked up)
Denver 26th against the run

How did Charles do against top 10 run defenses?

Against Baltimore he had 8 yards
Against Philly he had 36 yards
Against Pittsburgh he had 58 yards
Against Dallas he had 8 yards

So yeah.... that is why I compare Charles to Tatum Bell. He is a speed demon but that is about it.

1) He didn't start against Dal, Philly, or Bal so that doesn't surprise me.



And knowshon played THE SAME TEAMS! How many 100 yard games did he have? Oh yeah, none.

And ROFL @You not including the Broncos. Please remind me how many yards Charles had against you guys.

And tatum bell ran behind the same line that allowed Andre Hall to look good, Rueben Droughns to look good, Orlandis to look good. Charles did it behind the 31st rated Oline according to football outsiders.
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Los Pollos Hermanos
06-24-2010, 08:37 AM
And Jamal Charles got all of his yards against bad run defenses.

Jamal Charles 100 yard games
Oakland 29th against the run
Buffalo 30th against the run
Cleveland 28th against the run
Cinci 7th against the run (they were resting starters and already had a playoff spot locked up)
Denver 26th against the run

How did Charles do against top 10 run defenses?

Against Baltimore he had 8 yards
Against Philly he had 36 yards
Against Pittsburgh he had 58 yards
Against Dallas he had 8 yards

So yeah.... that is why I compare Charles to Tatum Bell. He is a speed demon but that is about it.

Larry Johnson was the starter again Baltimore, Philly and Dallas.

Charles averaged 6 yards per carry against Philly. Against Baltimore and Dallas, he had 7 carries combined.

BossChief
06-24-2010, 08:43 AM
Ya know what NOBalls?

You can argue all you want, but if you truly believed your words you wouldn't have a problem backing them. Jamaal Charles is twice the back Knowmo is.

just sayin'

TheGuardian
06-24-2010, 08:54 AM
Larry Johnson was the starter again Baltimore, Philly and Dallas.

Charles averaged 6 yards per carry against Philly. Against Baltimore and Dallas, he had 7 carries combined.

Beat me to it.

Charles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moreno.

/thread

vailpass
06-24-2010, 11:25 AM
Mods should step in and force the bet. Da Face?

Nominee for dumbest post of the year.
Congrats on that.

BossChief
06-24-2010, 11:44 AM
Nominee for dumbest post of the year.
Congrats on that.

Dude, if it was just this post and all of Knowmos posts in the competition...Knowmo would take the top 100 spots at minimum before that one would find its home.

that said, it was pretty dumb.

vailpass
06-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Dude, if it was just this post and all of Knowmos posts in the competition...Knowmo would take the top 100 spots at minimum before that one would find its home.

that said, it was pretty dumb.

:D Though I can see why he bothers you KnowMo doesn't bother me; he's my homer.

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-24-2010, 12:48 PM
Watch out for Knowshon Moreno.

Why? Is he playing dice on the freeway again?

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-24-2010, 12:50 PM
Bill Williamson is a Denver homer that now writes for ESPN. Here's how he ranks his top 5 AFCW RBs:

1. Jamaal Charles, Kansas City: I think this guy is the next great running back star in the NFL. If the Chiefs can keep Charles healthy, he will be dynamite. He is a game breaker and hes fun to watch. He ended the 2009 season with a 259-yard performance against Denver. I think that was a hint of big things to come from the player who is entering his third NFL season.

2. Thomas Jones, Kansas City: If the Chiefs are going to make big strides as a team in 2010, it will be because of their terrific 1-2 running back punch. Jones may be one of the best additions in the NFL this offseason. He will be 32 in August, but can still help in a big way. He was third in the NFL in rushing last season with 1,402 yards. He had 14 touchdowns. The guy can play.

3. Darren Sproles, San Diego: Sproles is a role player, but he is a spectacular role player. He can change games as a change-of-pace runner with his game-breaking ability. He is a dangerous receiver out of the backfield. When kept fresh, Sproles is a difference maker.

4. Michael Bush, Oakland: I really like this player. He is pounder that can wear defenses down. But he has to show his consistency. Perhaps this will be the season in which Bush breaks out for the 1,100- to 1,400-yard rushing season I think he is capable of achieving.

5. Knowshon Moreno, Denver: This is an interesting season for Moreno. He started well as a rookie last season, but slowed considerably as the season wore on. Denver has worked on getting a bigger offensive line and it is hoping that Moreno will be better prepared for the long haul. He is a talented player, but he needs to show he can stay consistent for an entire season and he needs to show more explosiveness than he did as the No. 12 overall pick last season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/12974

Finally; some fucking sense around this joint.

BossChief
06-24-2010, 12:59 PM
:D Though I can see why he bothers you KnowMo doesn't bother me; he's my homer.

oh, he doesnt bother me...I love the comic relief!

Sweet Daddy Hate
06-24-2010, 01:19 PM
oh, he doesnt bother me...I love the comic relief!

It's funny as fuck when Bad Guy gets super-pissed at him. I mean, come on; it's Know Mo for fuck's sake; you CAN'T take that shit seriously.

Ugly Duck
06-24-2010, 07:25 PM
Moreno not even part of the top four. Most divisions will have a running back from each team ranked in the top four. OUCH! :D

Just don't tell NoMo. That would be too cruel... even for rivals. He may only be a DonkFan, but he still has feelings.

KCrockaholic
06-24-2010, 10:28 PM
And Knowshit continues to make himself look like an assclown.

KCrockaholic
06-25-2010, 11:06 PM
So NoBalls isn't going to take the bet?

BossChief
06-26-2010, 12:19 AM
Ohhh the humanity of the combination!

KCrockaholic
06-26-2010, 12:47 AM
Ohhh the humanity of the combination!

lol I can't wait.