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petegz28
06-24-2010, 10:49 PM
A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed Barack Obama knew of Blagojevich's plot to win himself a presidential Cabinet post in exchange for appointing Valerie Jarrett to the U.S. Senate.

John Harris, Blagojevich's former chief of staff, testified Wednesday in the former governor's corruption trial that three days after the Nov. 4, 2008, presidential election, the ex-governor told Harris he felt confident Obama knew he wanted to swap perks.

"The president understands that the governor would be willing to make the appointment of Valerie Jarrett as long as he gets what he's asked for. . . . The governor gets the Cabinet appointment he's asked for," Harris said, explaining a recorded call.

Harris said Blagojevich came away believing Obama knew what he wanted after having a conversation with a local union representative, who in turn spoke with labor leader Tom Balanoff, with whom Blagojevich met to discuss a Jarrett appointment. Jarrett, now a White House adviser, was seeking the appointment to Obama's Senate seat.

Defense lawyers say Harris' testimony contradicts the government's previous public statements that Obama knew nothing about deal-making involving the Senate seat appointment.

The defense on Wednesday moved to force the prosecution to turn over FBI reports of Obama's interview with federal agents in December of 2008. Obama is not accused of wrongdoing.

"Testimony elicited by the government from John Harris and wiretaps played in court raise the issue of President Obama's direct knowledge and communication with emissaries and others regarding the appointment to his Senate seat," lawyers wrote in the filing.

The filing came on the trial's third day of the extensive playback of recordings in which Blagojevich is heard repeatedly discussing ways to personally capitalize on his Senate seat appointment power. Blagojevich could be heard plotting to try to head up a charity; swearing and snapping at his wife, Patti, and dismissing the possibility of a federal position that pays $190,000 a year.

"I make $170 . . . So Fred, that has no appeal to me . . . I want to make money," Blagojevich tells national Democratic consultant Fred Yang. "I might as well go out and find a way to make money."

Obama's 2008 internal report about his staff's contacts with Blagojevich at the time indicates that Balanoff relayed to Jarrett that Blagojevich was interested in a Health and Human Services Cabinet post.

Recordings also revealed that Blagojevich had tried to get the Chicago Tribune's editorial board fired after it ran a series of disparaging write-ups about the then-governor.

Harris testified that he ignored Blagojevich's firing directive.

Also Wednesday, U.S. District Judge James Zagel refused to gag the talkative Blagojevich as prosecutors had asked. Zagel said Blagojevich keeps saying he's innocent, and that anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

The repetition, Zagel said, has rendered Blagojevich's out-of-court talk unnewsworthy.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/2427402,CST-NWS-BLAGO24.article

Direckshun
06-24-2010, 10:58 PM
I was wondering when Drudge's top headline for the hour would become a petezg23 thread.

There's my answer.

petegz28
06-24-2010, 11:02 PM
I was wondering when Drudge's top headline for the hour would become a petezg23 thread.

There's my answer.

You really have a mental disorder.

Direckshun
06-24-2010, 11:04 PM
Why, because Drudge doesn't chew my food for me?

petegz28
06-24-2010, 11:05 PM
Why, because Drudge doesn't chew my food for me?

I would lay money you read Drudge more than I do and probably more than anyone here.

BTW, are you accusing Drudge of writing articles under the guise of the Sun Times?

Direckshun
06-24-2010, 11:07 PM
I would lay money you read Drudge more than I do and probably more than anyone here.

Hell yes I do. That's how I know 99% of your threads are directly from Drudge.

The difference is, I see it as Sean Hannity's approved source for news, which it is.

You see it as an honest window into the world, which it isn't.

Direckshun
06-24-2010, 11:08 PM
BTW, are you accusing Drudge of writing articles under the guise of the Sun Times?

Nope. He doesn't author anything, really. He cherry picks.

This is common knowledge, pete. Wake up.

petegz28
06-24-2010, 11:12 PM
Nope. He doesn't author anything, really. He cherry picks.

This is common knowledge, pete. Wake up.

:spock: Take your meds, son.

petegz28
06-24-2010, 11:18 PM
Here you go, Direckshun, just for you to listen too when you beat off to Obama and his idea of Utopia...

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Chocolate Hog
06-24-2010, 11:42 PM
Obama worst president since Bush.

chiefzilla1501
06-25-2010, 12:26 AM
Dude, I hate Obama, but give me a break. The guy's smart enough to know that when you just become President, this is the sort of stupid scandal that brings your administration down for no good reason.

I imagine he's been part of a lot of crooked shit. But to take Blago's guys' words over Obama's at this point is a huge stretch.

Saggysack
06-25-2010, 12:40 AM
Thread title: Obama knew of Blagojevich plot

1st sentence in article: A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed

The thread title implies that proof has been established. But in the first sentence of the article quite clearly implies a "hunch with no proof" from the accuser.

Taco John
06-25-2010, 12:57 AM
Someone is going to have to fall on this sword. I suspect it will be Rahm since he's on his way out anyway.

petegz28
06-25-2010, 01:31 AM
Thread title: Obama knew of Blagojevich plot

1st sentence in article: A top aide to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich said he believed

The thread title implies that proof has been established. But in the first sentence of the article quite clearly implies a "hunch with no proof" from the accuser.

Thread title is also the title of the article in which I gave a link too. I didn't just make it up.

Saggysack
06-25-2010, 01:43 AM
Thread title is also the title of the article in which I gave a link too. I didn't just make it up.

So. That does not make my point any different.

Direckshun
06-25-2010, 02:07 AM
Here you go, Direckshun, just for you to listen too when you beat off to Obama and his idea of Utopia...

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Splooge.

http://barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/matt-drudge-barbados.jpg

petegz28
06-25-2010, 08:14 AM
So. That does not make my point any different.

Except for the part where you seemed to have implied that I created a misleading thread title.

The Mad Crapper
06-25-2010, 08:30 AM
Obama is a criminal. Impeach his sorry ass.

patteeu
06-25-2010, 08:48 AM
Obama worst president since Bush.

True. Also the worst president since Carter. Possibly the worst president since Buchanan. Maybe even the worst President ever before it's all said and done.

Saggysack
06-25-2010, 10:02 AM
Except for the part where you seemed to have implied that I created a misleading thread title.

I did? Where did I say you, pete, titled this article...

That's fucking right. I didn't. I never even said your name in as a matter of a fact.

Any more excuses from you posting a worthless article that doesn't deserve an ounce of credibility from the title on down?

patteeu
06-25-2010, 10:11 AM
I did? Where did I say you, pete, titled this article...

That's ****ing right. I didn't. I never even said your name in as a matter of a fact.

Any more excuses from you posting a worthless article that doesn't deserve an ounce of credibility from the title on down?

You may not have intended it, but by criticizing the "thread title" instead of the "article headline", you created ambiguity that invites the inference that you were blaming petegz28, IMO.

Saggysack
06-25-2010, 10:24 AM
You may not have intended it, but by criticizing the "thread title" instead of the "article headline", you created ambiguity that invites the inference that you were blaming petegz28, IMO.

Nah. You are assuming what my intentions were with that post.

I don't have time for mind readers. I didn't accuse, or name him to anything.

petegz28
06-25-2010, 11:22 AM
Nah. You are assuming what my intentions were with that post.

I don't have time for mind readers. I didn't accuse, or name him to anything.

Nah, you're assuming your misuse of words in your criticism of misuse of words said what you meant to say. You used the words "thread title" and then went on to call it misleading. One can only assume you were directing that towards the author of the thread as opposed to the author of the article title. Which by the way were 2 words you did not use.

patteeu
06-25-2010, 11:33 AM
Nah. You are assuming what my intentions were with that post.

I don't have time for mind readers. I didn't accuse, or name him to anything.

No, I wasn't assuming anything. I'm just trying to help you understand how your careless, but perhaps innocently so, language can be misunderstood by reasonable people. A bigger person would take a little personal responsibility.

Saggysack
06-25-2010, 11:50 AM
No, I wasn't assuming anything. I'm just trying to help you understand how your careless, but perhaps innocently so, language can be misunderstood by reasonable people. A bigger person would take a little personal responsibility.

It is careless to assume I was pointing out anything other than the deception in it. I never named names, I never even hinted in someones direction as a cause. If I wanted to address the person who started the thread I would have stated thread starter, instead of thread title.


But since you want to get into who is a bigger person debate. I think I'll leave to yourself on your dick measuring contest. We all know conservatives are always wondering about other mens cocks and what they may be doing or look like. And no, I don't appreciate you being my personal cock gazer to gauge how big of a man I am, TYVM.

patteeu
06-25-2010, 12:46 PM
It is careless to assume I was pointing out anything other than the deception in it. I never named names, I never even hinted in someones direction as a cause. If I wanted to address the person who started the thread I would have stated thread starter, instead of thread title.


But since you want to get into who is a bigger person debate. I think I'll leave to yourself on your dick measuring contest. We all know conservatives are always wondering about other mens cocks and what they may be doing or look like. And no, I don't appreciate you being my personal cock gazer to gauge how big of a man I am, TYVM.

More "it can't possibly be me, it must be everyone else". What a huge surprise. And some gay smack on top just to prove how big you really are is a nice bonus.

Saggysack
06-25-2010, 12:59 PM
More "it can't possibly be me, it must be everyone else". What a huge surprise. And some gay smack on top just to prove how big you really are is a nice bonus.

ROFL

My intent om the comment wasn't about being gay. It was about you acting better than thou. But I can see where your thoughts are at.