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Guru
06-29-2010, 09:44 PM
I am looking at picking up some used clubs and would like some opinions on them please.

There are Titleist DCI 981 irons. 3-SW steel shaft

From what I have researched these seem to be highly rated clubs.

There is a lot of wear on the grips and I am not sure how much life is left in them. The seller is asking $90 for them as is but I think there might be some wiggle room on the price.

Do you guys think this is a fair price for these clubs or will the potential costs of regripping them make it not worth it?

Gonzo
06-29-2010, 09:47 PM
Average regripping cost - 8 bucks a club.

That sounds like a good deal, try to swing them before purchase to make sure they're not too short though.
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Guru
06-29-2010, 09:54 PM
Average regripping cost - 8 bucks a club.

That sounds like a good deal, try to swing them before purchase to make sure they're not too short though.
Posted via Mobile DeviceI already have them in hand. The seller was very kind to allow me to have them for a night or two before committing to the purchase. I'll be swinging them tomorrow afternoon when I wake up and comparing length to my current irons.

Also, has anyone tried to regrip clubs on their own?

OnTheWarpath58
06-29-2010, 09:59 PM
That's a pretty decent price. That set usually goes for between $100-$125.

Grips will run you anywhere from $3-$9 per, plus installation.

Tough call. Personally, I regrip every year to year and a half - so the cost wouldn't even be a consideration to me.

However, if you can get through the rest of the season with them as is, you can start fresh next spring, and not feel like you've spent a ton of money upfront. Hell, next time I'm in town, I can regrip them for you, provided you have a bench vise.

petegz28
06-29-2010, 10:03 PM
$90 for a set of clubs is a good deal. Especially if you don't play every week.

Gonzo
06-29-2010, 10:05 PM
I already have them in hand. The seller was very kind to allow me to have them for a night or two before committing to the purchase. I'll be swinging them tomorrow afternoon when I wake up and comparing length to my current irons.

Also, has anyone tried to regrip clubs on their own?

Yeah, its pretty easy, (buy 2 extra grips just in case).
1st, cut off old grips and take off the tape.
2nd, clean shaft with acetone based solvent and allow them to dry.

3rd, measure length of new grips and apply appropriate amount of 2-way tape.

4th, soak tape with lighter fluid and quickly slide the grip onto the club.

5th, quickly straighten grip so it lines up with the club.
Allow 24 hours for the tape to set.

Step 4 and 5 are about timing. If you move too slow the lighter fluid will evaporate before the grips are on correctly.
(Obviously you'll want the club secured in a vice)
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cdcox
06-29-2010, 10:08 PM
When I was a kid our football was worn slick. Same with our basketball. I'm pretty sure we never had either one of them "regripped". I don't ever recall it affecting our fun or our skill. We just played.

Guru
06-29-2010, 10:09 PM
That's a pretty decent price. That set usually goes for between $100-$125.

Grips will run you anywhere from $3-$9 per, plus installation.

Tough call. Personally, I regrip every year to year and a half - so the cost wouldn't even be a consideration to me.

However, if you can get through the rest of the season with them as is, you can start fresh next spring, and not feel like you've spent a ton of money upfront. Hell, next time I'm in town, I can regrip them for you, provided you have a bench vise.When are you in Topeka? I sure hope you haven't been coming to my town and not letting me know so we could share a beer man!!!:cuss:

I don't have a bench vice but I think my dad does. I just watched a video on regripping and they make it look easier than it probably is. heh What I would love to do is save the chamois grips I have on another set of clubs to put on these but I don't see how you could remove them without damaging them.

I'm definitely leaning toward purchasing just because of the ratings I am seeing for them online though. However, I am a below average golfer so I don't know if these will improve my game or hurt my game honestly.

Guru
06-29-2010, 10:11 PM
When I was a kid our football was worn slick. Same with our basketball. I'm pretty sure we never had either one of them "regripped". I don't ever recall it affecting our fun or our skill. We just played.ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-29-2010, 10:18 PM
You can buy generic high quality grips from a variety of online manufacturers and anyone can regrip a steel shafted club.

Buy the irons and get some new grips.

Guru
06-29-2010, 10:31 PM
Average regripping cost - 8 bucks a club.

That sounds like a good deal, try to swing them before purchase to make sure they're not too short though.
Posted via Mobile DeviceThis got me to thinking, how do you know if a club is has the right length shaft?

OnTheWarpath58
06-29-2010, 10:49 PM
This got me to thinking, how do you know if a club is has the right length shaft?

There's a special tape that clubfitters/teaching pros use that goes on the sole of the club, and on the face of the club.

You hit balls off of a plastic lie board, and the contact with the board and the ball are marked on each piece of tape.

Most people think this is just to determine whether your clubs should be upright or flat, but a good clubfitter will recognize if the club is too short or too long.

http://www.simonbuckleygolfshop.co.uk/graphics/custom-fit-lie-angle.gif

http://www.simonbuckleygolfshop.co.uk/graphics/custom-fit-shaft-length.gif

http://www.natanisgc.com/images/Titleist_lie_board.jpg

OnTheWarpath58
06-29-2010, 10:50 PM
When are you in Topeka? I sure hope you haven't been coming to my town and not letting me know so we could share a beer man!!!:cuss:

I don't have a bench vice but I think my dad does. I just watched a video on regripping and they make it look easier than it probably is. heh What I would love to do is save the chamois grips I have on another set of clubs to put on these but I don't see how you could remove them without damaging them.

I'm definitely leaning toward purchasing just because of the ratings I am seeing for them online though. However, I am a below average golfer so I don't know if these will improve my game or hurt my game honestly.

Nah, I haven't been coming to Topeka.

Just meant that I'd be willing to head that way next time I'm in KC.

BWillie
06-29-2010, 11:27 PM
You want my Hale Irwin King Cobra's? I'll sell them for you for $90. I need some of those chick hybrid clubs they have nowadays. I guess even the pros w/ dicks are even using them now.

Guru
06-29-2010, 11:28 PM
Nah, I haven't been coming to Topeka.

Just meant that I'd be willing to head that way next time I'm in KC.Gotcha.

I just did some measuring based on quite a bit of info I am finding on the net and it looks like these shafts are technically a half inch too short for me. I'll still check them to my current set of clubs because I was never measured for proper fit on those anyway so they are most likely the exact same length as these. From what I can tell these are Standard measure clubs. The 5 iron is 37.75" long with a "proper" measurement. The measurement to the bend in my wrist without shoes on is exactly 37 inches.

I just realized my clubs have graphite shafts so they probably are longer. They are cheap Acuity's though.

Bowser
06-29-2010, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I'm wanting me some hybrids. Pricey, though.....

Guru
06-29-2010, 11:31 PM
You want my Hale Irwin King Cobra's? I'll sell them for you for $90. I need some of those chick hybrid clubs they have nowadays. I guess even the pros w/ dicks are even using them now.Got any links so I can see what they look like? Not having much luck finding them on the net.

Do they look like this?

http://konapixx.com/images/CIMG1404.JPG

BWillie
06-29-2010, 11:37 PM
Got any links so I can see what they look like? Not having much luck finding them on the net.

Do they look like this?

http://konapixx.com/images/CIMG1404.JPG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220498658471&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WXF%3F&GUID=f3f7e2571260a02653367366ffbab47d&itemid=220498658471&ff4=263602_263622

These are pretty much it. Stiff steel shaft though. Distance control on these things are shit though. But you hit the poop out of your irons. I don't know if they are delofted or what. I hit my pitching wedge about 8-12 yards further than other pitching wedges of other sets.

Guru
06-29-2010, 11:42 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220498658471&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WXF%3F&GUID=f3f7e2571260a02653367366ffbab47d&itemid=220498658471&ff4=263602_263622

These are pretty much it. Stiff steel shaft though. Distance control on these things are shit though. But you hit the poop out of your irons. I don't know if they are delofted or what. I hit my pitching wedge about 8-12 yards further than other pitching wedges of other sets.DArn, I was hoping it was the set I had found. :)

I'm going to check these out first and see how they swing since I already have them in hand and all. Considering my game sucks anyway, the half inch probably won't mean squat.

Guru
06-30-2010, 01:06 AM
Has anyone ever checked this site out?

www.gigagolf.com

From what I am reading, this site is getting very good reviews on their clubs.

The_Chief
06-30-2010, 01:09 AM
my golf game needs some work

Reerun_KC
06-30-2010, 07:25 AM
my golf game needs some work

This!

Was in Oswego Kansas last weekend and played their course... Greens were the size of a pickup truck.. Fairways hard as a rock.... Shot an 86 and was pretty peaved about that.

Started out with 3 double bogies in a row before I got in some what of a groove....

I am due for some new clubs... Want some Taylor Made Burners...

mikeyis4dcats.
06-30-2010, 07:29 AM
Clubs are different for each person. If you think it's a good deal and aren't inclined to get fitted for a new set, go for it.

Some will pick up a club and like it, and hit it well. Some will like it (because of the name, look, etc.) and hit it badly. Some won't like it at all.

petegz28
06-30-2010, 07:30 AM
This!

Was in Oswego Kansas last weekend and played their course... Greens were the size of a pickup truck.. Fairways hard as a rock.... Shot an 86 and was pretty peaved about that.

Started out with 3 double bogies in a row before I got in some what of a groove....

I am due for some new clubs... Want some Taylor Made Burners...

Dude I would check out Mizuno. I have a set of their irons and I love them. And they didn't cost me an arm and leg. I use Taylor Made for my driver and 3 wood and Cleavland for my PW.

Phobia
06-30-2010, 07:41 AM
I play some 981's and like them. I've had them for a lot of years. Yes, you can regrip your own. I'm getting ready to do it too.

Reerun_KC
06-30-2010, 07:45 AM
I play some 981's and like them. I've had them for a lot of years. Yes, you can regrip your own. I'm getting ready to do it too.

We have heard that about you... ;)

Reerun_KC
06-30-2010, 07:47 AM
Dude I would check out Mizuno. I have a set of their irons and I love them. And they didn't cost me an arm and leg. I use Taylor Made for my driver and 3 wood and Cleavland for my PW.

I am just playing with some cheap Aspec Set from Academy... For now.. I sold my good clubs in 1998 due to having young kinds... Never played...

Now that my son is playing, I wanted to get back in cheaply for now.... IF all goes well, I will be purchasing some new ones by the end of the year. Will be custom fit to my game.

petegz28
06-30-2010, 07:50 AM
I am just playing with some cheap Aspec Set from Academy... For now.. I sold my good clubs in 1998 due to having young kinds... Never played...

Now that my son is playing, I wanted to get back in cheaply for now.... IF all goes well, I will be purchasing some new ones by the end of the year. Will be custom fit to my game.

I think I paid like $640 for my Mizuno irons. I love them. Great feel, not too heavy, not too light. Pretty forgiving.

HemiEd
06-30-2010, 08:03 AM
DCIs are some of the easiest clubs I ever hit. We purchased a few sets of them as gifts to customers about 10 years ago, they all loved them.
I always regrip my own, you just need the tape, some lighter fluid, a vise and a razor blade. I always use a soft rubber pad folded over between the vise jaws, as not to damage the shaft.
Good grips at Golfsmith are about $4 each, plus a roll of the double backed tape.

warpaint*
06-30-2010, 08:30 AM
Ping irons and Adams hybrids are the best I have ever hit. Currently playing w/ the A30s hybrids 3 and 4 iron and I3+ 5-LW.

Reerun_KC
06-30-2010, 08:35 AM
Ping irons and Adams hybrids are the best I have ever hit. Currently playing w/ the A30s hybrids 3 and 4 iron and I3+ 5-LW.

I do and dont like the hybirds... Kind of 50/50 on them...

I do miss the old standard 3-Pw setup... I cant decide what to do ? go with hybrids or irons next time..

I currently have 1w,3w,5w, 4-5Hy, 6-LW.....

I miss the 3 iron...

jspchief
06-30-2010, 08:35 AM
I am looking at picking up some used clubs and would like some opinions on them please.

There are Titleist DCI 981 irons. 3-SW steel shaft

From what I have researched these seem to be highly rated clubs.

There is a lot of wear on the grips and I am not sure how much life is left in them. The seller is asking $90 for them as is but I think there might be some wiggle room on the price.

Do you guys think this is a fair price for these clubs or will the potential costs of regripping them make it not worth it?I suggest trying to find some golf magazine reviews on those clubs. A lot of titleist clubs are very good for people with a solid conventional swing, but very unforgiving for those with more "creative" swings. I typically avoid Titleist, but some of the very good players I know swear by them.

CosmicPal
06-30-2010, 08:36 AM
Well, for starters- what is your golf game like? What type of shafts are coming with these clubs? Are they steel shafts? A steel shaft is much more economical than a graphite shaft.

But you need to know your shaft flex type before you buy any club: Are you a an extra stiff, stiff, regular, senior, or ladies flex type? This is crucial to your golf clubs working with you rather than against you.

To know what shaft flex type you are, you can use this general method: If you can drive the ball off the tee (with your driver) over 250 yards- you're a stiff shaft. (Don't even think about extra stiff- that's for the pros and you must consistently nail a ball 290 yards or more and have extreme arm/shoulder/leg strength).

The average golfer is in the 230-250 yard range= regular flex. If this is you, make sure those shafts are a regular.

200-230 yards- use a Senior shaft. Anything less, well, you're hopeless. :D

Other things to consider: If your drives go left, get a stiffer flex. If your drives go right, get a softer flex.

The best thing to do before you buy any new/used clubs is to spend an hour at the driving range and watch how you hit the ball. Pay particular attention to where your ball goes and how far. And then go to a golf shop and get fitted for a club by one of the specialists there. This will go a long ways to buying the right equipment and that equipment working for you. Too often people buy clubs thinking they're just golf clubs, but a wrong flex type can really keep you from improving your game.

Reerun_KC
06-30-2010, 08:38 AM
I think I paid like $640 for my Mizuno irons. I love them. Great feel, not too heavy, not too light. Pretty forgiving.

We need to play someday. But only if we have an offical ref on the course... so you can blame him when I spank your ass! ROFL

DonTellMeShowMe
06-30-2010, 08:40 AM
Yes, those are great irons. My suggestion is make sure the flex if correct for you; people tend to go too stiff. Also, make sure the grooves are not worn out. You can regroove them later, but make sure they arent banged up too bad. Grips to replace are easy enough...if you do it yourself for like maybe $50

CosmicPal
06-30-2010, 08:48 AM
I do and dont like the hybirds... Kind of 50/50 on them...

I do miss the old standard 3-Pw setup... I cant decide what to do ? go with hybrids or irons next time..



Generally, if a club is made from the same materials, using the same shapes, with the same weight distributions and overall weight, it should perform the same as another club similarly constructed. This is a key concept to understanding why golf club clones perform as well as the name brands—it is just molten metal shaped into a form. If the metal is the same and the shape similar, the result should compare very well.

The trick is that many companies and retail stores do not explain or know what their clubs are made from. For example, an Aluminum driver that looks just like a club made from stainless steel will be inferior to that club and vice versa.

P.S. I customized my own Ping hybrids and saved hundreds of dollars over the name brand. (Still have 'em in the basement. They're like 15 years old now.)

petegz28
06-30-2010, 09:00 AM
I do and dont like the hybirds... Kind of 50/50 on them...

I do miss the old standard 3-Pw setup... I cant decide what to do ? go with hybrids or irons next time..

I currently have 1w,3w,5w, 4-5Hy, 6-LW.....

I miss the 3 iron...

I don't carry hybrids. Can't hit them. Don't ask me why. Probably between the ears lies my problen but I just never have hit them good. I don't ever hesitate to pull out a 4 or 5 iron or 5 wood where others seem to go to their hybrids.

petegz28
06-30-2010, 09:00 AM
We need to play someday. But only if we have an offical ref on the course... so you can blame him when I spank your ass! ROFL

Nice burn, I'll rep you on that one. :D

Fish
06-30-2010, 09:51 AM
I just regripped my clubs over Father's day weekend. Piece of cake. The hardest part is stripping the old stuff off. Much harder with graphite shafts too. Steel shafts are really easy.

I think it took me a little over 2 hours to strip and regrip 12 clubs.

HemiEd
06-30-2010, 10:09 AM
I do and dont like the hybirds... Kind of 50/50 on them...

I do miss the old standard 3-Pw setup... I cant decide what to do ? go with hybrids or irons next time..

I currently have 1w,3w,5w, 4-5Hy, 6-LW.....

I miss the 3 iron...

I think hybrids are a crutch and I play with a lot of guys that use them. They then complain after hitting a decent shot, that the ball doesn't stop. I still prefer a 3 and 4 iron, as the ball stops on the green in short order.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-30-2010, 10:36 AM
Well, for starters- what is your golf game like? What type of shafts are coming with these clubs? Are they steel shafts? A steel shaft is much more economical than a graphite shaft.

But you need to know your shaft flex type before you buy any club: Are you a an extra stiff, stiff, regular, senior, or ladies flex type? This is crucial to your golf clubs working with you rather than against you.

To know what shaft flex type you are, you can use this general method: If you can drive the ball off the tee (with your driver) over 250 yards- you're a stiff shaft. (Don't even think about extra stiff- that's for the pros and you must consistently nail a ball 290 yards or more and have extreme arm/shoulder/leg strength).

The average golfer is in the 230-250 yard range= regular flex. If this is you, make sure those shafts are a regular.

200-230 yards- use a Senior shaft. Anything less, well, you're hopeless. :D

Other things to consider: If your drives go left, get a stiffer flex. If your drives go right, get a softer flex.

The best thing to do before you buy any new/used clubs is to spend an hour at the driving range and watch how you hit the ball. Pay particular attention to where your ball goes and how far. And then go to a golf shop and get fitted for a club by one of the specialists there. This will go a long ways to buying the right equipment and that equipment working for you. Too often people buy clubs thinking they're just golf clubs, but a wrong flex type can really keep you from improving your game.

The average golfer does not hit his driver anywhere near 230 yards.

Shaft flex is dependent upon two things: Swing speed and tempo.

If you have a quick, twitchy swing, you need a stiffer shaft. If you have a slower, smoother swing, you need a softer shaft.

The rule of thumb is that you should play the softest shaft you can control.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-30-2010, 10:38 AM
I actually broke my Sonartec MD hybrid at the range on Monday.

Hit the ball right on the screws and the shaft snapped right at the top of the hosel, sending the clubhead 60 yards down the range.

It was the weirdest feeling I've ever encountered while hitting balls.

Rudy lost the toss
06-30-2010, 10:40 AM
anybody have an opinion on shortening drivers--I believe 43 inches is the number i keep hearing. Or is it essentially the same to get a 13 degree 3Wood?

Stinger
06-30-2010, 10:45 AM
anybody have an opinion on shortening drivers--I believe 43 inches is the number i keep hearing. Or is it essentially the same to get a 13 degree 3Wood?

May I ask why you would shorten a driver unless you are looking for more control I guess?

DonTellMeShowMe
06-30-2010, 10:48 AM
shortening the driver that much will affect the stiffness as well (stiffer)

Rudy lost the toss
06-30-2010, 11:07 AM
May I ask why you would shorten a driver unless you are looking for more control I guess?

yes...I feel like all my clubs are too long for me anyways. Though the charts don't say i need to shorten my clubs, I hit better--and almost as long--with my old junior clubs

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-30-2010, 11:32 AM
Shorter clubs are easier to hit, but you are also reducing your swing arc, which means less speed.

For whatever reason, I can swing my 3 wood as fast as my driver, despite it being 2 inches shorter.

Guru
06-30-2010, 09:59 PM
Well, for starters- what is your golf game like? What type of shafts are coming with these clubs? Are they steel shafts? A steel shaft is much more economical than a graphite shaft.

But you need to know your shaft flex type before you buy any club: Are you a an extra stiff, stiff, regular, senior, or ladies flex type? This is crucial to your golf clubs working with you rather than against you.

To know what shaft flex type you are, you can use this general method: If you can drive the ball off the tee (with your driver) over 250 yards- you're a stiff shaft. (Don't even think about extra stiff- that's for the pros and you must consistently nail a ball 290 yards or more and have extreme arm/shoulder/leg strength).

The average golfer is in the 230-250 yard range= regular flex. If this is you, make sure those shafts are a regular.

200-230 yards- use a Senior shaft. Anything less, well, you're hopeless. :D

Other things to consider: If your drives go left, get a stiffer flex. If your drives go right, get a softer flex.

The best thing to do before you buy any new/used clubs is to spend an hour at the driving range and watch how you hit the ball. Pay particular attention to where your ball goes and how far. And then go to a golf shop and get fitted for a club by one of the specialists there. This will go a long ways to buying the right equipment and that equipment working for you. Too often people buy clubs thinking they're just golf clubs, but a wrong flex type can really keep you from improving your game.

The average golfer does not hit his driver anywhere near 230 yards.

Shaft flex is dependent upon two things: Swing speed and tempo.

If you have a quick, twitchy swing, you need a stiffer shaft. If you have a slower, smoother swing, you need a softer shaft.

The rule of thumb is that you should play the softest shaft you can control.

I can't use a driver for shit. My driver always goes right after 150 yards so I have no idea how far it can actually go since it is never EVER straight.

My 5 iron is generally anywhere from 130-155 yards because I have a slow swing. When I try to rip it, I shank it or it goes to the left.

My general swing is a 3/4 swing at a steady pace. Based on some of the info I am getting from other sites I suppose I should probably be using the Senior (A-flex) shaft.

These clubs are a steel shaft and I have no idea what the flex on them is.

petegz28
06-30-2010, 10:03 PM
I can't use a driver for shit. My driver always goes right after 150 yards so I have no idea how far it can actually go since it is never EVER straight.

My 5 iron is generally anywhere from 130-155 yards because I have a slow swing. When I try to rip it, I shank it or it goes to the left.

My general swing is a 3/4 swing at a steady pace. Based on some of the info I am getting from other sites I suppose I should probably be using the Senior (A-flex) shaft.

These clubs are a steel shaft and I have no idea what the flex on them is.


I tend to have the same problem with my driver. I have a natural fade to my swing anyway. One thing I do to avoid this is to make sure I am rotating my writsts. I usualy leave the club face open when I hit a slice. Also make sure your swing plane is more up/down feeling than around the side. I tend to take a more flat plane with my driver and have to remind myself to take the club up as opposed to back. Usually I hit the ball pretty straight when I focus on those two things.

CosmicPal
06-30-2010, 10:17 PM
The average golfer does not hit his driver anywhere near 230 yards.

Uhhh, yes they do. The average handicapped golfer drives a ball off the tee 230 - 235 yards.


Shaft flex is dependent upon two things: Swing speed and tempo.

If you have a quick, twitchy swing, you need a stiffer shaft. If you have a slower, smoother swing, you need a softer shaft.

The rule of thumb is that you should play the softest shaft you can control.

All three of those statements are indeed correct.

Miles
06-30-2010, 10:21 PM
I can't use a driver for shit. My driver always goes right after 150 yards so I have no idea how far it can actually go since it is never EVER straight.

My 5 iron is generally anywhere from 130-155 yards because I have a slow swing. When I try to rip it, I shank it or it goes to the left.

My general swing is a 3/4 swing at a steady pace. Based on some of the info I am getting from other sites I suppose I should probably be using the Senior (A-flex) shaft.

These clubs are a steel shaft and I have no idea what the flex on them is.

You would probably be OK with a regular flex. I take it all of the shaft labels have worn off?

Miles
06-30-2010, 10:26 PM
Also if you haven't found it already, here is a handy spec chart on the 981's.

http://www.titleist.com/historical_clubs/details.asp?id=10

Guru
06-30-2010, 10:28 PM
Uhhh, yes they do. The average handicapped golfer drives a ball off the tee 230 - 235 yards.



All three of those statements are indeed correct.

OK, then I am a below average golfer because I have never driven a ball that far. If I take a full swing it is worse than my 3/4 swing.

Guru
06-30-2010, 10:29 PM
You would probably be OK with a regular flex. I take it all of the shaft labels have worn off?There are labels on the shaft but I have no idea what the terms on it mean.

Miles
06-30-2010, 10:30 PM
There are labels on the shaft but I have no idea what the terms on it mean.

Is there an R or S on them? Or any other lettering?

Miles
06-30-2010, 10:32 PM
Should also say Tri-Spec Steel somewhere.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-30-2010, 10:45 PM
Uhhh, yes they do. The average handicapped golfer drives a ball off the tee 230 - 235 yards.



All three of those statements are indeed correct.

The average golfer hits his drives 196 yards.

Miles
06-30-2010, 10:47 PM
The average golfer hits his drives 196 yards.

Just curious. Any idea roughly what the average male golfer under 60 or so might hit?

Guru
06-30-2010, 10:48 PM
Should also say Tri-Spec Steel somewhere.Most of them where hard to read but I was able to make out Regular on one of them. I would assume they are all the same.

AFter doing some swinging with them this afternoon, I pretty much decided they won't work for me anyway. They are shorter than my current clubs which are technically still a tad short for me. I don't want to start altering my swing to fit the club in this case.

I'm probably going to take a hard look at that gigagolf link but only because I cannot afford name brand clubs. Also, my game is not deserving of name brand anyway.

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-30-2010, 10:54 PM
Just curious. Any idea roughly what the average male golfer under 60 or so might hit?

Not nearly as far as they think.

Most golfers have SSs in the 85-90 MPH range.

I'm by no means a long hitter, and I range from 104-106, and there you are looking at about 238 carry and 260 or so after roll in normal conditions.

And I can tell you that most other guys I see hit don't hit it nearly that far, but the averages aren't anecdotal, either.

Miles
06-30-2010, 11:08 PM
Not nearly as far as they think.

Most golfers have SSs in the 85-90 MPH range.

I'm by no means a long hitter, and I range from 104-106, and there you are looking at about 238 carry and 260 or so after roll in normal conditions.

And I can tell you that most other guys I see hit don't hit it nearly that far, but the averages aren't anecdotal, either.

Kind of what I was hinting at. Seems more often than not maximum driving distance is what people say or that one time they hit it down hill and off a cart path to cut a dogleg.

I don't swing much faster than you and would have guessed my average around 270ish not counting hills, altitude or overly dry ground. Fortunately most of my friends I play with fall into the category of modestly/reasonably knowing their distance but they do give me shit for hitting a 3 wood off the tee a lot.

BWillie
07-01-2010, 12:58 AM
OK, then I am a below average golfer because I have never driven a ball that far. If I take a full swing it is worse than my 3/4 swing.

Bah. Driving the ball far on the courses average people will play at the white or blue tees doesn't matter that much IMO. Most tees and courses that the common man likes to play are between 5800 - 6600 yards. I can't tell you how many times I bomb a driver 300+, and then end up w/ a 50 yard pitch shot that I can't hit for shit, but there may be a short hitting guy that hits his driver real straight or plays a fade perfectly every time and leaves himself a full wedge shot and he's close putting for birdie and I'm in some crappy lie behind a tree. If you can even hit your driver 230, you can be a scratch golfer if you can develop the skills.

I've played in the junior pro/am at the Nike Tour event that used to come to the Dakota Dunes Country Club when I was younger. Granted, almost all the pros were longer and straighter, but they made up most of the strokes scrambling and on the shots 100 yards and in. It was just phenomenal the kinds of shots they could hit. In fact, one year I played w/ Steve Woods and then I also played with Jason Gore. I actually hit the ball further than Steve Woods, but he was insanely accurate w/ an unbelievable short game. And then there was Jason Gore. He hit the ball all over the place when I played w/ him off the tee, but the way he could scramble and shape miracle shots out of deep rough was unbelievable. Those pro/ams were the coolest things ever. If you have any kids and live in an area where the Mini Tours come, I'd look into it and see if they can get your kid in.

Guru
07-01-2010, 01:04 AM
Hell, I get so pissed at my driver I usually shelf it and pull out the 4 iron just so I feel like I have a chance at landing in the fairway.

BWillie
07-01-2010, 01:07 AM
Hell, I get so pissed at my driver I usually shelf it and pull out the 4 iron just so I feel like I have a chance at landing in the fairway.

I love the 4-iron. But I am just not level headed enough to actually use it as much as I should. I stripe my 4-iron, but if I use my 3-iron it's going all over the place. I don't know why there is such a difference? :shrug:

Miles
07-01-2010, 01:10 AM
I love the 4-iron. But I am just not level headed enough to actually use it as much as I should. I stripe my 4-iron, but if I use my 3-iron it's going all over the place. I don't know why there is such a difference? :shrug:

I finally ditched my 3-iron despite my game not eroding to the point to needing to do it (2-iron is long gone). I wanted more wedge options since I couldn't hit the intermediate PW anymore. You get a hybrid yet?

Guru
07-01-2010, 01:19 AM
I love the 4-iron. But I am just not level headed enough to actually use it as much as I should. I stripe my 4-iron, but if I use my 3-iron it's going all over the place. I don't know why there is such a difference? :shrug:I have never even tried a 3 iron. I have a crappy Acuity hybrid that hits no better than my driver though. :(

Miles
07-01-2010, 01:28 AM
I have never even tried a 3 iron. I have a crappy t that hits no better than my driver though. :(

Have you tried a decently made 3-wood off the tee?

Guru
07-01-2010, 01:55 AM
Have you tried a decently made 3-wood off the tee?yeah, it gives me about the same results as my driver.:doh!:

EDIT

Wait you said decently made. heh Nope, not with a decently made one.

CosmicPal
07-01-2010, 07:07 AM
The average golfer hits his drives 196 yards.

Wrong again Tiger. While professional golfers can hit their drivers well over 300 yards, a typical male golfer will hit his driver anywhere from between 230 and 290 yards depending on his skill level.

The beginner golfer, one without a standard handicap will hit less than 200 yards off the tee.

petegz28
07-01-2010, 07:23 AM
190 yards of the tee that goes straight and into the fairway is always better than 250-300 yards and in the rough.

Besides, most people get so fucking obsessed with their driver it's amazing. You don't use your driver on every hole but you will use your PW, 9, 8 or 7 irons. I see guys that can bomb the fuck out of their driver and then take 4 shots to get the ball the last 100 yards onto the green cause their short game sucks.

warpaint*
07-01-2010, 08:21 AM
yeah, it gives me about the same results as my driver.:doh!:

EDIT

Wait you said decently made. heh Nope, not with a decently made one.

I'd definitely keep looking if I were you - it's amazing what that technology will do for you once you get the right clubs for you working for you and you can get them for a fraction of the cost of new on ebay and if you are judicious you can find them in great condition to boot.

warpaint*
07-01-2010, 08:23 AM
I do and dont like the hybirds... Kind of 50/50 on them...

I do miss the old standard 3-Pw setup... I cant decide what to do ? go with hybrids or irons next time..

I currently have 1w,3w,5w, 4-5Hy, 6-LW.....

I miss the 3 iron...

Ya it's certainly not the same control as a 3 or 4 iron but I hit them consistently so much farther and straighter it's a huge help to my game on longer holes.

mikeyis4dcats.
07-01-2010, 08:33 AM
Rod, if you have a bad slice, you might try hitting an offset hosel driver. That's what I switched to.

Reerun_KC
07-01-2010, 08:53 AM
190 yards of the tee that goes straight and into the fairway is always better than 250-300 yards and in the rough.

Besides, most people get so ****ing obsessed with their driver it's amazing. You don't use your driver on every hole but you will use your PW, 9, 8 or 7 irons. I see guys that can bomb the **** out of their driver and then take 4 shots to get the ball the last 100 yards onto the green cause their short game sucks.


This is where the strokes add up... I hit my driver about 190-210..... But it usually is in the fairway..

I can hit my irons really well. So if I am 170 or less to the green, I usually can be on or beside the green on my second shot. My very short games blows though... I either chip it way to short or across the green... That pisses me off royally.

Been spending ALOT of time using my LW under 40 yards... It has added strokes to my game, but if I can learn how to drop the ball on the green, it will benefit me in time.

Reerun_KC
07-01-2010, 08:55 AM
Ya it's certainly not the same control as a 3 or 4 iron but I hit them consistently so much farther and straighter it's a huge help to my game on longer holes.

That I agree.

Reerun_KC
07-01-2010, 09:06 PM
Oswego Kansas

6 bogies, 3 pars = +6

God dang ground is harder that a rock... No getting under any balls in South East Kansas.... So much for back spin.

Guru
07-01-2010, 09:59 PM
Rod, if you have a bad slice, you might try hitting an offset hosel driver. That's what I switched to.I just can't get the driver to get around before it hits the ball. I pretty much live on my 3 iron now. I might start trying a 3 wood just to see if it is any better than the driver. The few times I have tried it have been bad though.

Reerun_KC
07-01-2010, 10:03 PM
I just can't get the driver to get around before it hits the ball. I pretty much live on my 3 iron now. I might start trying a 3 wood just to see if it is any better than the driver. The few times I have tried it have been bad though.
Shaft is to flexible... Go have your swing analyzed... You might next a steel shaft on your driver...

Guru
07-01-2010, 10:09 PM
Shaft is to flexible... Go have your swing analyzed... You might next a steel shaft on your driver...Where? Dick's Sporting Goods?

also, what does something like that cost?

HemiEd
07-02-2010, 05:49 AM
190 yards of the tee that goes straight and into the fairway is always better than 250-300 yards and in the rough.

Besides, most people get so ****ing obsessed with their driver it's amazing. You don't use your driver on every hole but you will use your PW, 9, 8 or 7 irons. I see guys that can bomb the **** out of their driver and then take 4 shots to get the ball the last 100 yards onto the green cause their short game sucks.
So very true. I play in a Wednesday night mens league, and we are in our fourth week of match play.
Two weeks in a row, I am giving 4 &5 shots in 9 holes, to guys that outdrive me by 50-75 yards.
On one par 5, I was laying up with the same club he had to the green, a 5 iron. Beat him 3 and 2.
Where? Dick's Sporting Goods?

also, what does something like that cost?
I did it a Golf Galaxy, and it was no charge, but they have to feel confident you might be a customer.

WilliamTheIrish
07-02-2010, 06:33 AM
I just can't get the driver to get around before it hits the ball. I pretty much live on my 3 iron now. I might start trying a 3 wood just to see if it is any better than the driver. The few times I have tried it have been bad though.

I used to play a grand mal seizure of a slice. It just takes a little time to end that by using the range. I bought a knock off swing trainer off ebay for $5 that forced me to get the club around. It's just a matter (usually) of being too "over the top".

phisherman
07-02-2010, 06:39 AM
Oswego Kansas

6 bogies, 3 pars = +6

God dang ground is harder that a rock... No getting under any balls in South East Kansas.... So much for back spin.

You don't put backspin on your shots by getting under them. Backspin is attained by hitting down on the ball (or "trapping" it).

I've played on a ton of courses with "tight" lies, but could always hit spinny iron shots; you've just got to hit down on the ball and then prepare for the hard ground.

petegz28
07-02-2010, 07:01 AM
You don't put backspin on your shots by getting under them. Backspin is attained by hitting down on the ball (or "trapping" it).

I've played on a ton of courses with "tight" lies, but could always hit spinny iron shots; you've just got to hit down on the ball and then prepare for the hard ground.

exactly, top spin is created by getting under the ball. Think about the shot, if you get under a ball with an iron the ball is going to roll from the top of the club to the bottom as it releases from the club. Thus giving you the top spin.

petegz28
07-02-2010, 07:03 AM
This is where the strokes add up... I hit my driver about 190-210..... But it usually is in the fairway..

I can hit my irons really well. So if I am 170 or less to the green, I usually can be on or beside the green on my second shot. My very short games blows though... I either chip it way to short or across the green... That pisses me off royally.

Been spending ALOT of time using my LW under 40 yards... It has added strokes to my game, but if I can learn how to drop the ball on the green, it will benefit me in time.

If you are wanting to lob the ball onto the green get the ball more towards your left foot. Easier said than done I know. I have taken those lob shots where I have the ball tot he left of my left foot almost to make sure I get it up and down as oppsed to more of a chip.

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 07:33 AM
If you are wanting to lob the ball onto the green get the ball more towards your left foot. Easier said than done I know. I have taken those lob shots where I have the ball tot he left of my left foot almost to make sure I get it up and down as oppsed to more of a chip.

I can hit the club pretty well, problem is I havent hit it enough yes to control the distance, Learning how much power to put into the swing to land in close to the pin...

More like 10 yards to short and the next time is 10 yards to far... :deevee:

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 07:34 AM
You don't put backspin on your shots by getting under them. Backspin is attained by hitting down on the ball (or "trapping" it).

I've played on a ton of courses with "tight" lies, but could always hit spinny iron shots; you've just got to hit down on the ball and then prepare for the hard ground.

Agree... pinching the ball agianst the turf when you follow through isnt easy.... I end up blading it and watch it take off for a ride...

petegz28
07-02-2010, 07:53 AM
I can hit the club pretty well, problem is I havent hit it enough yes to control the distance, Learning how much power to put into the swing to land in close to the pin...

More like 10 yards to short and the next time is 10 yards to far... :deevee:

That's my problem as well. And that just comes from practing around the chipping green and playing a lot. Gripping and ripping is easy as far as golf goes. Those touch shots are where the money is made.

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 08:42 AM
That's my problem as well. And that just comes from practing around the chipping green and playing a lot. Gripping and ripping is easy as far as golf goes. Those touch shots are where the money is made.

We played 9 last night, going to play 18 in Parsons this afternoon. And probably 18 somewhere around here on saturday... Going home Sunday morning, then going to hit the 18 par 3 on monday...

After that it will be time for some rest before we head to FL the following week... Which we will try and play 2-3 times down there as well.

petegz28
07-02-2010, 09:18 AM
We played 9 last night, going to play 18 in Parsons this afternoon. And probably 18 somewhere around here on saturday... Going home Sunday morning, then going to hit the 18 par 3 on monday...

After that it will be time for some rest before we head to FL the following week... Which we will try and play 2-3 times down there as well.

I haven't been out this year since March when I was down in Phoenix. Tweaked my back and it still hurts a little to swing the clubs.

OnTheWarpath58
07-02-2010, 09:26 AM
I haven't been out this year since March when I was down in Phoenix. Tweaked my back and it still hurts a little to swing the clubs.

Same here. Haven't played since March 27th when I tore up my knee.

Hoping to get back within the next few weeks.

phisherman
07-02-2010, 09:35 AM
I took a 16 month sabbatical from golf and played a TON of disc golf instead. Played my first round back about 3 weeks ago and shot an 89. Then played in a tournament last Friday at Tiffany Greens and my team shot -11. I think I need to take more "breaks" from swinging the sticks!

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 09:36 AM
Same here. Haven't played since March 27th when I tore up my knee.

Hoping to get back within the next few weeks.

How are the knees coming along?

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 09:38 AM
I haven't been out this year since March when I was down in Phoenix. Tweaked my back and it still hurts a little to swing the clubs.

I have that problem from time to time. Back is tight and it really jacks up my swing and shot...

I do have some darvocet from my root canal.... They seem to help my swing and score.... But my wife found out I was keeping them in the golf bag. using one about an hour before I went and played... She took them and hid them.. Dang it!

phisherman
07-02-2010, 09:44 AM
darvicet?

weak.

go for percocet or oxycodone/hyrdocodone before a round. it's like floating on a cloud of titties..especially if you have a few beverages during the round!

OnTheWarpath58
07-02-2010, 10:09 AM
How are the knees coming along?

Good. Still a lot of swelling. Measured at .5 a cm over normal. I won't get clearance until that settles down a bit.

Canceled the date to have my right knee done. I'm going to use the time to get the left 100%, and work my ass off to drop 30 pounds.

I've been living with the issue in my right knee for 20 years, another year isn't going to bother me.

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 10:35 AM
darvicet?

weak.

go for percocet or oxycodone/hyrdocodone before a round. it's like floating on a cloud of titties..especially if you have a few beverages during the round!

I dont want to kill my liver or myself... Muscle relaxing, not stoner.....

I wanna be able to play golf, not drool all over myself....

Gonzo
07-02-2010, 10:45 AM
I got one of those Powerbuilt drivers for x-mas last year with the stiff flex shaft. It added 15-20 yds off the tee once I learned how to swing it. My swing w/ a driver is fast as hell. I had it clocked last year at 118 mph.
I drove 2 par 4's yesterday that were over 300 yds.
Now if I can just get more consistent with my short game...
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Lumpy
07-02-2010, 10:49 AM
I got one of those Powerbuilt drivers for x-mas last year with the stiff flex shaft. It added 15-20 yds off the tee once I learned how to swing it. My swing w/ a driver is fast as hell. I had it clocked last year at 118 mph.
I drove 2 par 4's yesterday that were over 300 yds.
Now if I can just get more consistent with my short game...
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:drool: :hump:

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 10:51 AM
I got one of those Powerbuilt drivers for x-mas last year with the stiff flex shaft. It added 15-20 yds off the tee once I learned how to swing it. My swing w/ a driver is fast as hell. I had it clocked last year at 118 mph.
I drove 2 par 4's yesterday that were over 300 yds.
Now if I can just get more consistent with my short game...
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Yesterday I was driver, 6 or 7 iron to the green on every par 4.. But every drive was in the fairway...

I will give up some distance in order to not search for balls all day long...

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 10:52 AM
:drool: :hump:

Dont get to excited, he said his SHORT GAME SUCKS!

Lumpy
07-02-2010, 10:52 AM
Dont get to excited, he said his SHORT GAME SUCKS!

ROFL

Reerun_KC
07-02-2010, 10:56 AM
I got one of those Powerbuilt drivers for x-mas last year with the stiff flex shaft. It added 15-20 yds off the tee once I learned how to swing it. My swing w/ a driver is fast as hell. I had it clocked last year at 118 mph.
I drove 2 par 4's yesterday that were over 300 yds.
Now if I can just get more consistent with my short game...
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Sure Mrs Gonzo would appreciate that as well....

:D

Gonzo
07-02-2010, 10:59 AM
Hey, I always find the hole in 4-6 strokes.
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Lumpy
07-02-2010, 11:00 AM
Hey, I always find the hole in 4-6 strokes.
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Yeah, but sometimes it takes a few extra strokes when you're playing the back 9. ;)

Gonzo
07-02-2010, 11:02 AM
Yeah, but sometimes it takes a few extra strokes when you're playing the back 9. ;)

ROFL

It's a bitch to repair my ball marks too.
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Reerun_KC
07-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Last 3 rounds.

9 holes at Oswego - 42 for a +6
9 holes at Parsons CC - 44 for a +9
18 holes at Prairie Ridge (Erie KS) 83 for a +11

Miles
07-03-2010, 04:44 PM
Shaft is to flexible... Go have your swing analyzed... You might next a steel shaft on your driver...

It is the other way around on shaft flex. Providing that is in not the swing path creating the open face, which it almost always is, too stiff a shaft will generally not be able to close at impact.

Steel shaft on a driver?

BWillie
07-03-2010, 07:58 PM
Do not play Gardner Golf Course. It sucks. Cost me $22 for a nine, which isn't alot, but it is for that shitty of a course. It looks like they had no thought process of developing a golf course. They just stuck greens in random areas and said hey hit it to this piece of shit. I'm pretty confident that none of the yardages are correct as well. The card says 3250 or so yards on the front nine, but I'm sure it's more like 2900 because all my shots off the tee seemed like they were going 50 yards further and it was wet and rainy. Shot a 38 w/ an eagle, and two birdies. Shoulda been much better if I wouldn't have tripled #9, an easy ass par five.

I called up Sycamore Ridge and they had twilight rates of $29.99 w/ a cart after 5 pm. Next time I'll go there.

OnTheWarpath58
07-03-2010, 08:31 PM
It is the other way around on shaft flex. Providing that is in not the swing path creating the open face, which it almost always is, too stiff a shaft will generally not be able to close at impact.

Steel shaft on a driver?

Tiger actually played a steel shaft in his driver for a while.

Miles
07-03-2010, 08:41 PM
Tiger actually played a steel shaft in his driver for a while.

He was the last higher profile holdout I can think of and switched about 6 or 7 years back.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-03-2010, 10:07 PM
Picked up a Ping Rapture 21* hybrid w/ a Mitsu Javln stiff shaft for 99 bucks today at the Dick's in Zona Rosa.

Dick's normally doesn't carry Ping equipment, and Ping never made Rapture hybrids w/ that shaft unless it was from their WRX dept, so I was very surprised to find it there.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-03-2010, 10:11 PM
Wrong again Tiger. While professional golfers can hit their drivers well over 300 yards, a typical male golfer will hit his driver anywhere from between 230 and 290 yards depending on his skill level.

The beginner golfer, one without a standard handicap will hit less than 200 yards off the tee.

Well, actual research conducted by non-fucking dumbasses talking absolutely out of their ass shows that you're a fool:

"According to tests by the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St. Andrews, the double-digit-handicapper added less than one yard to his average drive from 1996 to 2001. During the same period, tour pros added an average of 12 yards.

Although definitive research is scarce, Golf Digest surveys show that the average golfer's driving distance increased from 193 to 205 yards in the last decade. In the same period, PGA Tour distances increased almost 30 yards. Even these numbers for average golfers may be generous because a test of Golf Digest Schools students in March still showed only a 195-yard average."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HFI/is_5_54/ai_101967369/

BWillie
07-03-2010, 10:25 PM
Picked up a Ping Rapture 21* hybrid w/ a Mitsu Javln stiff shaft for 99 bucks today at the Dick's in Zona Rosa.

Dick's normally doesn't carry Ping equipment, and Ping never made Rapture hybrids w/ that shaft unless it was from their WRX dept, so I was very surprised to find it there.

I need to get one of these. What is the rule of thumb on these things? What are the price range on them? Is there a big difference in the expensive ones and the lower priced ones?

Reerun_KC
07-05-2010, 09:37 AM
It is the other way around on shaft flex. Providing that is in not the swing path creating the open face, which it almost always is, too stiff a shaft will generally not be able to close at impact.

Steel shaft on a driver?

Agree, Alot of people open their hands like they are swinging a ball bat. Causing the face to open up and the driver to come over the top of the ball putting a massive amount of spinn on the ball....

Reerun_KC
07-05-2010, 09:44 AM
Feels wierd taking the day off from Golfing... Its raining, so there isnt really a choice, but having withdrawls. Only going to get the opportunity to play once this week before we head to FL.

CosmicPal
07-05-2010, 11:16 AM
Well, actual research conducted by non-****ing dumbasses talking absolutely out of their ass shows that you're a fool:



Go phuck yourself you self-riotous assphuck. You are so phucking gawddamn sure of yourself about everything aren't you?

I'm phucking arguing with a phuckstick that can't drive a phucking golf ball 200 yards himself.

I, on the other hand, have a single digit handicap and have been playing golf since I was a wee lad at the age of five phucking years old- the same age you were still dropping loads of shit in your phucking diapers.

Keep using the internet search for your goddamn wealth of phucking knowledge you phucking blowhard.

And finally, GO PHUCK YOURSELF!

CosmicPal
07-05-2010, 11:37 AM
Well, actual research conducted by non-****ing dumbasses talking absolutely out of their ass shows that you're a fool:

"According to tests by the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St. Andrews, the double-digit-handicapper added less than one yard to his average drive from 1996 to 2001. During the same period, tour pros added an average of 12 yards.

Although definitive research is scarce, Golf Digest surveys show that the average golfer's driving distance increased from 193 to 205 yards in the last decade. In the same period, PGA Tour distances increased almost 30 yards. Even these numbers for average golfers may be generous because a test of Golf Digest Schools students in March still showed only a 195-yard average."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HFI/is_5_54/ai_101967369/

And another thing: the only tards who can't drive a ball over 200 yards are old phucks, children, women, those learning the game, and dweebs like you with DOUBLE-digit handicaps. That makes up a very large section of crappy golfers; and therefore, the average driving distance takes a serious drop.

Since you're such a know-it-all phuck about everything with advanced skills on Google and ChaCha, why don't you locate the stats for 18-45 year old males and see what the average driving distance is for them? I can assure you, it's over 200 yards.

Frankly, the men and boys I play with can all drive a ball over 200 yards. The only one I know who can't is my uncle and he's 80 phucking years old. But he can still launch that dimpled beauty 170 yards. Pretty good for an old guy. Of course, he's also a much better golfer than you.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-05-2010, 11:44 AM
Oh, waaaa.

Cry your fucking ass off because you got it handed to you by empirical research.

Then, pull some more out of your ass, because after all, you might as well complete the circle of idiotic dipshittery.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-05-2010, 11:48 AM
I need to get one of these. What is the rule of thumb on these things? What are the price range on them? Is there a big difference in the expensive ones and the lower priced ones?

If you are talking about hybrids, there's generally not a huge difference in some of the ones made in the last few years.

Some of the best hybrids you can find (if you are a little price conscious) used would be:

Ping G5
Sonartec MD (my old hybrid that I snapped last week)
Nike CPR
Nickent 3DX
Callaway FT
Callaway Diablo
Ping G10

Adams has a ton of good hybrids as well.

BWillie
07-05-2010, 12:22 PM
If you are talking about hybrids, there's generally not a huge difference in some of the ones made in the last few years.

Some of the best hybrids you can find (if you are a little price conscious) used would be:

Ping G5
Sonartec MD (my old hybrid that I snapped last week)
Nike CPR
Nickent 3DX
Callaway FT
Callaway Diablo
Ping G10

Adams has a ton of good hybrids as well.

Holy shit! You can buy these things for like $59.99 on ebay. I was thinking they'd be like two hunski ea. Imma hafta pick me up one of these tomorrow. One of the guys on my golf team in college said he just bought a hybrid and he went from hitting his 3-4 iron 215 yards and all over the place to his hybrid to 235 and straighter. Haven't been this excited about new equipment in a long time.

WilliamTheIrish
07-05-2010, 12:39 PM
One of the great feats of Hamas is to go from complete animal to calm composed human in a matter of seconds.

LMAO




Oh, waaaa.

Cry your ****ing ass off because you got it handed to you by empirical research.

Then, pull some more out of your ass, because after all, you might as well complete the circle of idiotic dipshittery.

Four minutes later....


If you are talking about hybrids, there's generally not a huge difference in some of the ones made in the last few years.

Some of the best hybrids you can find (if you are a little price conscious) used would be:

Ping G5
Sonartec MD (my old hybrid that I snapped last week)
Nike CPR
Nickent 3DX
Callaway FT
Callaway Diablo
Ping G10

Adams has a ton of good hybrids as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-05-2010, 12:47 PM
Holy shit! You can buy these things for like $59.99 on ebay. I was thinking they'd be like two hunski ea. Imma hafta pick me up one of these tomorrow. One of the guys on my golf team in college said he just bought a hybrid and he went from hitting his 3-4 iron 215 yards and all over the place to his hybrid to 235 and straighter. Haven't been this excited about new equipment in a long time.

Be wary of one thing: Yardage gaps.

It's cool to bomb your hybrid, but you don't want to hit one so far that you have a 20 yard gap between your hybrid and your longest iron.

If you want it to play like a 3 iron, a lot of times, it's not a bad idea to get a 4i hybrid.

Of course, depending on your ability, you could get the 3 and choke down on it or try and cut it, but a lot of hybrids aren't super workable because they get the ball in the air so easily and hit it so straight.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-05-2010, 12:50 PM
One of the great feats of Hamas is to go from complete animal to calm composed human in a matter of seconds.

LMAO






Four minutes later....

http://i42.tinypic.com/2dl0m0p.jpg

Miles
07-05-2010, 01:58 PM
Holy shit! You can buy these things for like $59.99 on ebay. I was thinking they'd be like two hunski ea. Imma hafta pick me up one of these tomorrow. One of the guys on my golf team in college said he just bought a hybrid and he went from hitting his 3-4 iron 215 yards and all over the place to his hybrid to 235 and straighter. Haven't been this excited about new equipment in a long time.

You might check out the Adam Pro and Adams Pro Gold w/ Matrix Ozik shaft.

The standard Pro model is older and plays more like a long iron. Still very popular on tour the last time I checked. The Pro Gold is more forgiving in favor of a little less workability but IMO is the best hybrid I have hit. Both should be pretty cheap on ebay.

'Hamas' Jenkins
07-05-2010, 02:05 PM
Miles,

Is that Ozik legit, or is it like the Fuji Speeders and Motores you find in so many Titty and Taylor Mades?

Miles
07-05-2010, 02:16 PM
Miles,

Is that Ozik legit, or is it like the Fuji Speeders and Motores you find in so many Titty and Taylor Mades?

I'm not really sure but the Adams Pro models tend to just use 3-rd party shafts that were not made for Adams. I don't have mine handy to take a pic of the label but here is what one looks like:

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/uploads/monthly_03_2010/post-5651-12687073222337.jpg

It has some random Japanese script on it as well that catches with the light. Whatever it is, I like it.

Guru
07-05-2010, 02:26 PM
And another thing: the only tards who can't drive a ball over 200 yards are old phucks, children, women, those learning the game, and dweebs like you with DOUBLE-digit handicaps. That makes up a very large section of crappy golfers; and therefore, the average driving distance takes a serious drop.

Since you're such a know-it-all phuck about everything with advanced skills on Google and ChaCha, why don't you locate the stats for 18-45 year old males and see what the average driving distance is for them? I can assure you, it's over 200 yards.

Frankly, the men and boys I play with can all drive a ball over 200 yards. The only one I know who can't is my uncle and he's 80 phucking years old. But he can still launch that dimpled beauty 170 yards. Pretty good for an old guy. Of course, he's also a much better golfer than you.
Gee, thanks for making me really realize how crappy my game is.:rolleyes:

That post by Hamas made me feel better about my game then you come on here and post that shit? Phuck you man. Really. Phuck you.

Gonzo
07-05-2010, 02:48 PM
My dad swears by the 3 hybrids he has in his bag. I tried to hit them and they just felt awkward. I'll stick with my Mizuno quad irons.

Fwiw, he's in his mid 60's and still pops his driver 250+. He just picked up one of those King Cobras yesterday. That added like 15 - 20 yards.
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Reerun_KC
07-05-2010, 02:50 PM
I'm not really sure but the Adams Pro models tend to just use 3-rd party shafts that were not made for Adams. I don't have mine handy to take a pic of the label but here is what one looks like:

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/uploads/monthly_03_2010/post-5651-12687073222337.jpg

It has some random Japanese script on it as well that catches with the light. Whatever it is, I like it.

Those are pretty bad ass....

Reerun_KC
07-05-2010, 02:51 PM
One of the great feats of Hamas is to go from complete animal to calm composed human in a matter of seconds.

LMAO


Its a golf thread, does it really have to go to this...

Shit almost every football thread is unreadable anymore... At least could we have some peace in the golf thread?

Guru
07-05-2010, 02:57 PM
Its a golf thread, does it really have to go to this...

Shit almost every football thread is unreadable anymore... At least could we have some peace in the golf thread?

it is peaceful.:D

Reerun_KC
07-05-2010, 02:58 PM
it is peaceful.:D

LOL

We need to have a CP golf tourney... 2 man best ball scramble.. Put name in a hat, draw up teams and play....

Winner gets bragging rights for a year or something...

Guru
07-05-2010, 03:48 PM
LOL

We need to have a CP golf tourney... 2 man best ball scramble.. Put name in a hat, draw up teams and play....

Winner gets bragging rights for a year or something...

Yeah, that is the ONLY way I could play in a tourney. Get me to the green and I have a fighting chance.

Reerun_KC
07-06-2010, 07:19 AM
Yeah, that is the ONLY way I could play in a tourney. Get me to the green and I have a fighting chance.

LOL

I think it would be fun.

Maybe we should start a poll and see what people think about it and if it would be worth investigating.

Old Dog
07-06-2010, 07:39 AM
Yeah, that is the ONLY way I could play in a tourney. Get me to the green and I have a fighting chance.

I'm just the oppsosite. The first couple of shots are a piece of cake, but that last 30 feet is a bitch. I've done everything I can think of, but can't normally putt to save my ass.

CosmicPal
07-06-2010, 08:34 AM
Gee, thanks for making me really realize how crappy my game is.:rolleyes:

That post by Hamas made me feel better about my game then you come on here and post that shit? Phuck you man. Really. Phuck you.

My sincerest and humblest apologies. I did not intend to make it personal and I apologize to anyone else who might have been or was offended by my ignorant and self-conceited outburst. It was uncharacteristic of me.

And with that, I'm taking a leave of absence from the Planet myself. I've been too confrontational with the fine people here as of late. My life has taken an unsettling nose-dive since being laid off and I'm just filled with a lot of tension, anxieties and anger. It's still no excuse for my behavior.

I don't want to turn the direction of the thread away from the topic of golf, so I'll just leave quietly and hope you forgive me for being an ass. I'll be at the 19th hole.

morphius
07-06-2010, 10:09 AM
Yeah, that is the ONLY way I could play in a tourney. Get me to the green and I have a fighting chance.
LOL! With my luck we would draw each other. Though I do think I'm up to around 250 on my driver.

BWillie
07-06-2010, 12:52 PM
LOL

We need to have a CP golf tourney... 2 man best ball scramble.. Put name in a hat, draw up teams and play....

Winner gets bragging rights for a year or something...

I'd be down for it.

Guru
07-06-2010, 03:49 PM
LOL! With my luck we would draw each other. Though I do think I'm up to around 250 on my driver.

Change it to a 4 man scramble so that is less likely to happen.

Reerun_KC
07-06-2010, 10:26 PM
Change it to a 4 man scramble so that is less likely to happen.

Ought to make it that a MU fan and a KU fan be on the same team....

Reerun_KC
07-06-2010, 10:27 PM
I want PeteZ on my team... So we can blame the Marshall for our shitty game.

Oxford
07-07-2010, 06:29 PM
Most of them where hard to read but I was able to make out Regular on one of them. I would assume they are all the same.

AFter doing some swinging with them this afternoon, I pretty much decided they won't work for me anyway. They are shorter than my current clubs which are technically still a tad short for me. I don't want to start altering my swing to fit the club in this case.

I'm probably going to take a hard look at that gigagolf link but only because I cannot afford name brand clubs. Also, my game is not deserving of name brand anyway.

www.pinemeadowgolf.com, I play a set of Callaway x-14 clones from them. Great service, they have a fitment application on line, several different "clones" of popular brands.