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HonestChieffan
07-02-2010, 09:41 AM
Brewer: Obama immigration speech "helpless" by Jim Cross/KTAR and Associated Press (July 1st, 2010 @ 11:44am)

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PHOENIX -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer says President Barack Obama's speech on immigration reform provided no answers to the problem.

"What a helpless speech," Brewer told News/Talk 92.3 KTAR by phone from Sedona, where she had a speaking engagement Thursday.

"Where's the action?" Brewer asked. "He described perfectly my opinion of the complete failure of the federal government, something that has been failing the people of America for a decade or more."

She added, "The bottom line is that we are a nation of laws and they have to be complied with. And, if they are not, we will fall. We have chaos in Mexico, and we are beginning to experience the same kind of chaos in Arizona."

She said, "The system is broken, the border is broken. We all know what we need... People in Arizona have made it very, very clear. Let's talk about the problem that is at hand. Let's secure the border."

The Arizona governor, a Republican, met with Obama at the White House last month after she signed a tough immigration enforcement law, which requires police enforcing other laws to clarify a person's immigration status if there's reason to believe that person is in the U.S. illegally. The law, which goes into effect July 29, is being challenged in court and the Justice Department is reviewing it to decide if the feds will join the challenges.

Brewer said said if Obama "is going to leave it up to the states to do what the feds should be doing, then maybe that's what's going to have to take place. First things must come first and that is securing our border, all the way from California through Texas."

Brewer said she would appreciate a little respect from the President by having him come to Arizona "to look at our border and see what we are putting up with on a daily basis."

In his speech Friday, Obama did not dwell on the Arizona law, although he called it an understandable byproduct of public frustration with the federal government's inability to address the problem. But, he said the Arizona law is ill-conceived, divisive and would put undue pressure on local authorities.

A prominent Arizona legislator said he was "offended" by the President's speech.

Republican Rep. John Kavanagh called Obama's address at American University in Washington, D.C., a ``political speech'' that, in Kavanagh's words, ``probably annoyed everybody.''

According to Kavanagh, Obama was trying to convince Hispanics that he's doing something about immigration when he really isn't. And Kavanagh says the speech was a disappointment to those who want increased border security and internal enforcement.

Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl agreed with Brewer that the border must be secured before Congress overhauls the immigration system. Kyl said the president blamed Republicans for stalling immigration reform.

"It was very political," Kyl told Fox News. "On the one hand, he says we need bipartisanship, and then he slams Republicans."

He added, "It's our job to secure the border, whether or not we end up passing so-called comprehensive immigration reform."

Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard, the front-runner for the Democratic nomination for governor in this fall's elections, called the president's plan long overdue and urgently needed.

"Based on the president's outline this morning, it appears he's proposing a responsible plan that deserves the immediate attention of Congress," Goddard said.

"The President is offering a common sense path for illegal immigrants to get right with the law by passing a criminal background check, paying a fine, paying back taxes and learning English. These are all steps I have long endorsed," Goddard said.

He said the failure of Congress to act long ago is part of what led to Arizona's new law and the divisiveness it has generated.

Goddard said the President didn't go far enough, however, in addressing border security.

"He said the border is more secure now than it has been in 20 years, but drug cartel murders and other violence south of the border are peaking and present a growing threat to the people of Arizona. The president needs to do more to support our efforts to fight the cartels and increase border security."

Goddard called on the President to work closely with members of Congress and give them an immediate timetable to consider his proposals. He added that Arizona's congressional delegation "should provide bipartisan leadership to pass the reforms that Arizona so desperately needs."

Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, a Phoenix Democrat and a leader in the Hispanic Community, said Obama showed leadership and provided "a voice of reason in what has become a poisoned debate."

She said the president "reminded Americans of our shared histories." (Copyright 2008 Bonneville International Corporation. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. AP contributed to this report.)


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Radar Chief
07-02-2010, 10:37 AM
She’s an idiot, the border is secure. /Stark

The Mad Crapper
07-02-2010, 11:05 AM
Well, we'll just have to form our own country, then.

fan4ever
07-02-2010, 11:26 AM
Well, we'll just have to form our own country, then.

I bet you have more people thinking along those lines right about now than any time in the past 100 years.

The Mad Crapper
07-02-2010, 11:32 AM
I bet you have more people thinking along those lines right about now than any time in the past 100 years.

Dude, if B.O. thinks he's going to wave his hand and pass blanket amnesty (and it's for no other reason than he needs the votes) with 17% real unemployment in this country, there is going to be blood in the streets. I don't wish that, I'm not encouraging that, just making a prediction.

The guy is a piece of shit.

fan4ever
07-02-2010, 11:42 AM
Dude, if B.O. thinks he's going to wave his hand and pass blanket amnesty (and it's for no other reason than he needs the votes) with 17% real unemployment in this country, there is going to be blood in the streets. I don't wish that, I'm not encouraging that, just making a prediction.

The guy is a piece of shit.

I'm just venting here, but I'd like to draw a line down the middle of the country, liberals on one side, conservatives on the other, and all the baggage that goes with our different belief systems and see who's clamoring to jump sides in about 2 years.

blaise
07-02-2010, 11:50 AM
She’s an idiot, the border is secure. /Stark

"Oh, the border's not secure? (smacks lips) Oh my goodness. Maybe the Minutemen can shoot everyone. It sounds terrible."

The Mad Crapper
07-02-2010, 12:01 PM
I'm just venting here, but I'd like to draw a line down the middle of the country, liberals on one side, conservatives on the other, and all the baggage that goes with our different belief systems and see who's clamoring to jump sides in about 2 years.

Look no further than California (run by moonbats):

Arnold Schwarzenegger has ordered California State Controller John Chiang to reduce state worker pay for July to the federal minimum allowed by law -- $7.25 an hour for most state workers.

ROFL

Otter
07-02-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm just venting here, but I'd like to draw a line down the middle of the country, liberals on one side, conservatives on the other, and all the baggage that goes with our different belief systems and see who's clamoring to jump sides in about 2 years.

Then we we have to build a wall to keep liberals AND illegals out right down the middle of American.

I can see the fliers being thrown over from them now:

"No fair, you took the good side! Stop the discrimination and let us in!"

vailpass
07-02-2010, 02:40 PM
Just give them all amnesty then they won't be illegal. The tax dollars they contribute from their minimum wage jobs many of which are paid off the books will more than offset the money they take from us for government assisted housing, food stamps, medicare, state welfare aid for children, overburdend classrooms forced to teach to the lowest level, ESL classes, etc.
While we are at it let's legalize drugs, that would solve the gang problems in Mexico that are spilling over into the US/ pro-illegal liberal

fan4ever
07-02-2010, 04:33 PM
Gee I kind of expected to get slapped around by some of the libs out there; maybe they're afraid the idea might catch on.

The Mad Crapper
07-27-2010, 06:55 AM
A Prayer for Today

Heavenly Father, thank You for loving me. Thank You for choosing me. I ask that You help me to know my limitations. Help me to know my place in the body of Christ so that I can bring glory and honor to You. In Jesus Name. Amen.

HolyHandgernade
07-27-2010, 08:43 AM
Look no further than California (run by moonbats):

Arnold Schwarzenegger has ordered California State Controller John Chiang to reduce state worker pay for July to the federal minimum allowed by law -- $7.25 an hour for most state workers.

ROFL

Why pick on California? Oh yeah, because it doesn't have quite the impact if you had chosen Texas:

http://www.californiaprogressreport....e/?q=node/7803

Texas Budget Deficit Shatters Myths About California's Deficit

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Posted on 28 May 2010

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By Robert Cruckshank

Well, well, well. For years now we've been hearing that California's budget problems exist because we "overspend." Others claim it's because our taxes are so high that companies and jobs move to low-tax states. Texas is often held out by those making these claims as an example of what California should emulate - a low-tax, low-services, low-spending state that supposedly has government figured out.

Except they don't. California faces a budget deficit of about $18 billion. And how much is Texas's budget deficit?

That's right. $18 billion:

But as the state's budget shortfall widens-to as much as $18 billion, or about 20% of the next two-year budget, according to the state legislature's latest analysis released earlier this month-critics are complaining that Mr. Perry's policies have left the state with little room to reduce spending.

"There is no way that they will be able to come up with $18 billion in cuts," said Eva DeLuna Castro, a senior budget analyst at the Center for Public Policy Priorities, a nonprofit that advocates for low-income Texans. "They would have to shut down our prison system."

Suddenly Texas doesn't look like such a great model for California. They don't have an income tax, yet their revenues have collapsed just as California's have. Texas spends a lot less per resident, with a much smaller level of public services, yet they are still facing a budget deficit about the size of our own.

This news should put to an end once and for all the lie that California's budget deficit stems from overspending, or that we should cut our income taxes to "stabilize" revenues, or that we should follow Texas's model of low services.

Instead what Texas shows us is that the real problem - as in Greece - is that taxes are too low, especially on the higher end of the income bracket. Higher taxes help balance the budget, sustain the services we need to attract and retain companies.

Think that last part is nonsense? Just ask two California companies that are moving to Colorado:

As for quality of life, "there's less traffic, less stress, the people are more grounded here. My kids aren't going to school where all the kids drive Porsches and Mercedes," he said. "I should have moved sooner."...

One final thought from Hansen: "It's not that we hated Orange County ... We love it. But here we're not spending our time sitting on a freeway. There are trails right by our office."

The OC Register article wants to make it sound like Colorado's lower taxes were the key driver. But it sure doesn't sound that way from the quotes. Traffic is a truly massive economic problem here in California, causing lost time and lost money. Had these business owners not had to deal with traffic, because we'd spent our money building alternatives, they may well have decided to stay, since they clearly enjoyed life in the OC.

Most decisions made by companies about where to locate their businesses don't revolve around taxes. Cost of living, ability to recruit and retain skilled employees, quality of local schools, infrastructure, and other similar issues tend to dominate the list. Since California has systematically starved those services of revenue, it's becoming harder to create the jobs that will produce recovery.

What we're seeing is the "Texas is better" model proven to be the lie that it is. California should look to the model of Pat Brown, who understood that investment in our state's services, schools and infrastructure produced prosperity, for the way out of our budget and economic crisis.

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Robert Cruickshank is a historian, activist, and teacher living in Monterey. He is a contributing editor at Calitics.com and works for the Courage Campaign, in addition to teaching political science at Monterey Peninsula College. Currently he is completing his Ph.D. dissertation in US history, on progressive politics in San Francisco in the 1960s and 1970s.

Theolotus
07-27-2010, 09:00 AM
I'm just venting here, but I'd like to draw a line down the middle of the country, liberals on one side, conservatives on the other, and all the baggage that goes with our different belief systems and see who's clamoring to jump sides in about 2 years.

Does that mean Independants have to live ON the wall?

InChiefsHell
07-27-2010, 09:15 AM
As for quality of life, "there's less traffic, less stress, the people are more grounded here. My kids aren't going to school where all the kids drive Porsches and Mercedes," he said. "I should have moved sooner."...

One final thought from Hansen: "It's not that we hated Orange County ... We love it. But here we're not spending our time sitting on a freeway. There are trails right by our office."

And this is what this moron is hanging his hat on? THere is so much fail in this article it's barely worth commenting on.

Just keep thinking that things are al-righty in California. This Robert Cruickshank is a part of the problem.

InChiefsHell
07-27-2010, 09:16 AM
Does that mean Independants have to live ON the wall?
No, they have to get off their asses and choose a side.

HolyHandgernade
07-27-2010, 09:23 AM
And this is what this moron is hanging his hat on? THere is so much fail in this article it's barely worth commenting on.

Just keep thinking that things are al-righty in California. This Robert Cruickshank is a part of the problem.

I'm not thinking things are "al-righty in California". I'm just pointing out that the reasons for economic hardships just might be a bit more complex than partisan politics and right now, nobody has the the "right" answers. A-righty?

-HH