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Mile High Mania
07-06-2010, 01:16 PM
I saw a poll recently that asked the question of whether or not either of these coaches was a "Hall of Fame" coach. Tony Dungy was an overwhelming "YES" and Reeves was extremely borderline.

You can compare their bodies of work at www.profootballreference.com

What do you guys think?

Micjones
07-06-2010, 01:23 PM
Dungy.
-10 fewer years and only one less Division Title.
-10 fewer years about only 51 fewer games.
-Superbowl ring.
-Only had double digit losses in one season his entire career.
-Twice as many wins as losses.

Brock
07-06-2010, 01:25 PM
For some reason, Marv Levy is in, so I don't see why Reeves shouldn't be.

mikey23545
07-06-2010, 01:31 PM
I would probably lean towards Reeves...A lot longer career, went to 4 Super Bowls with 2 different teams, a lot more wins.

Sure, Dungy won one SB, and has a better winning percentage but I think longevity with a long record of winning teams trumps that.

Barely.

Mile High Mania
07-06-2010, 01:47 PM
Dungy.
-10 fewer years and only one less Division Title.
-10 fewer years about only 51 fewer games.
-Superbowl ring.
-Only had double digit losses in one season his entire career.
-Twice as many wins as losses.

Sure, but prior to coaching Peyton Manning, Dungy was 45-42 overall with the Bucs. Dungy takes over Indy, in Peyton's 5th season and they go on a roll. Dungy took over a pretty loaded roster.

Dan Reeves didn't do too much after Denver, aside from a few good seasons and the SB appearance... but, overall he still has a very solid body of work and like someone else said, Levy is in the HOF.

I'm not suggesting that Dungy isn't qualified, but if he's a lock now... they better put in Jimmy Johnson pretty fast with his record of 80 and 64 with 2 titles. Hell, Barry Switzer was 64-40 in his 4 years with a SB title. Switzer did the same thing Dungy did ... took over a very talented team.

HemiEd
07-06-2010, 03:55 PM
I don't think either one of them belong in the HOF. Dungy had a great QB and is a feel good story, but that shouldn't give him the ticket in. Reeves was a hard worker, for a long time, but not enough IMO.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Levy made it, but he is an extremely smart ****er, so he managed to politic the right people.

cdcox
07-06-2010, 04:04 PM
I wouldn't put either one of them in.

Bud Grant also seems to be a question mark. No championships, no major innovations, 21st in regular season win %, 12th in total wins. I just don't see it.

Sanka
07-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Dungy is a fruad. Peyton should have won more titles if he had a better HC.

CrazyPhuD
07-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Dungy's black he's going in....

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-King-
07-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Dungy is a fruad. Peyton should have won more titles if he had a better HC.

Or if he wasnt a fuck up in the post season. Just a thought.
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Rain Man
07-06-2010, 04:34 PM
I'd vote for Reeves over Dungy, but I think a coach has to be legendary to get in. Neither of those coaches is legendary.

-King-
07-06-2010, 04:34 PM
I'd vote for Reeves over Dungy, but I think a coach has to be legendary to get in. Neither of those coaches is legendary.

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Saul Good
07-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Reeves couldn't co-exist with one of the 3 best QBs in the history of the game. No HOF.

ClevelandBronco
07-06-2010, 07:08 PM
Neither one.

Zebedee DuBois
07-06-2010, 07:21 PM
If either gets in, they would be riding in on their QB's talent. ...although there is something to be said for the ability to get out of the way so a player's talent can shine.

ClevelandBronco
07-06-2010, 07:25 PM
If either gets in, they would be riding in on their QB's talent. ...although there is something to be said for the ability to get out of the way so a player's talent can shine.

In Reeves' case it took getting out of town.

tk13
07-06-2010, 07:40 PM
Dungy was a big part of turning the Buccaneers around though. He did have some success without Manning. They were maybe the most embarrassing franchise in pro sports when he took over. I'm pretty sure they went to the playoffs more times under Dungy than all of their previous history combined. I would have to say if he doesn't make it there probably aren't many modern coaches that deserve to. Belichick and Shanahan are the only ones with more rings (I think)... and none of them have won as consistently.

milkman
07-07-2010, 01:21 PM
I don't think either one of them belong in the HOF. Dungy had a great QB and is a feel good story, but that shouldn't give him the ticket in. Reeves was a hard worker, for a long time, but not enough IMO.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why Levy made it, but he is an extremely smart ****er, so he managed to politic the right people.

Levy made because of the incredible resilience that Bills team showed in returning to the SB after 3 consecutive SB losses.