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mikey23545
07-06-2010, 04:16 PM
You honestly can't make this shit up...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/nasa-official-walks-claim-muslim-outreach-foremost-mission/

The former head of NASA on Tuesday described as "deeply flawed" the idea that the space exploration agency's priority should be outreach to Muslim countries, after current Administrator Charles Bolden made that assertion in an interview last month.

"NASA ... represents the best of America. Its purpose is not to inspire Muslims or any other cultural entity," Michael Griffin, who served as NASA administrator during the latter half of the Bush administration, told FoxNews.com.

Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

Officials from the White House and NASA on Tuesday stood by Bolden's statement that part of his mission is to improve relations with Muslim countries -- though NASA backed off the claim that such international diplomacy is Bolden's "foremost" responsibility.

Griffin said Tuesday that collaboration with other countries, including Muslim nations, is welcome and should be encouraged -- but that it would be a mistake to prioritize that over NASA's "fundamental mission" of space exploration.

"If by doing great things, people are inspired, well then that's wonderful," Griffin said. "If you get it in the wrong order ... it becomes an empty shell."

Griffin added: "That is exactly what is in danger of happening."

He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said.

The former administrator stressed that any criticism should be directed at Obama, not Bolden, since NASA merely carries out policy.

The White House stood by Bolden on Tuesday. Spokesman Nick Shapiro said in a written statement to FoxNews.com that Obama "wants NASA to engage with the world's best scientists and engineers as we work together to push the boundaries of exploration.

"Meeting that mandate requires NASA to partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries. The space race began as a global competition, but, today, it is a global collaboration," he said.

Bob Jacobs, NASA's assistant administrator for public affairs, echoed that point. However, he said that Bolden was speaking of priorities when it came to "outreach" and not about NASA's primary missions of "science, aeronautics and space exploration." He said the "core mission" is exploration and that it was unfortunate Bolden's comments are now being viewed through a "partisan prism."

Though the Al Jazeera interview drew widespread attention, it wasn't the first time Bolden made the assertion.

A Feb. 16 blog in the Orlando Sentinel reported that Bolden discussed the outreach during a lecture to engineering students. As he did in the interview with Al Jazeera last month, Bolden was quoted then saying Obama told him to "find ways to reach out to dominantly Muslim countries."

He reportedly talked about the importance of helping countries establish space programs and pointed to the largest Muslim country in the world, Indonesia, as a possible partner.

"We really like Indonesia because the State Department, the Department of Education (and) other agencies in the U.S. are reaching out to Indonesia as the largest Muslim nation in the world," he said.

Bolden did not describe such outreach as his prime mission at the time.

The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo, and in the interview with Al Jazeera he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said.

He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission. "Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He also said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

Griffin disputed this point. He said the U.S. can still make those strides without international aid if it wishes, and that, "To the extent that we wish to go to Mars, we can go to Mars."

Griffin said the U.S. should in fact seek international cooperation for those missions, but that it would be "clearly false" to suggest the U.S. needs that cooperation.

Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.

HonestChieffan
07-06-2010, 04:20 PM
and we have no resources to protect borders...

mikey23545
07-06-2010, 04:26 PM
He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said.



What if we need to know how to fly a space shuttle into a skyscraper?

The Mad Crapper
07-06-2010, 04:29 PM
He also said that while welcome, Muslim-nation cooperation is not vital for U.S. advancements in space exploration.

"There is no technology they have that we need," Griffin said.



What if we need to know how to fly a space shuttle into a skyscraper?

ROFL

Donger
07-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Yeah, flying rockets is so 20th century.

Bill Parcells
07-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Guys, having Muslims involved in NASA is VERY IMPORTANT! I am shocked you are all taking it so lightly!

Rain Man
07-06-2010, 04:41 PM
"By 2020, we will put not just one Muslim on the moon. We will put all Muslims on the moon."

I like it.

http://users.aber.ac.uk/rbh/jfk&lbj/16581.jpg

Donger
07-06-2010, 04:48 PM
"By 2020, we will put not just one Muslim on the moon. We will put all Muslims on the moon."

I like it.

http://users.aber.ac.uk/rbh/jfk&lbj/16581.jpg

You forgot the "and return them safely to the Earth" part.

Taco John
07-06-2010, 05:25 PM
I thought the phenomenon of people being humilated for voting for Obama was a largely made up thing by Republicans until I went home this weekend and had some family members of mine talking about how embarassed they were.

Reaper16
07-06-2010, 05:27 PM
Well... its cheaper than space exploration, at least.

vailpass
07-06-2010, 05:28 PM
I thought the phenomenon of people being humilated for voting for Obama was a largely made up thing by Republicans until I went home this weekend and had some family members of mine talking about how embarassed they were.

The ONE guy (out of about 45 members) in our school booster club who voted obama is so pissed at getting burned that he literally can't be teased about it. He fell for it, went through embarassed and is now mad.

Hydrae
07-06-2010, 05:36 PM
You forgot the "and return them safely to the Earth" part.

I doubt he forgot it.

BucEyedPea
07-06-2010, 05:54 PM
What if we need to know how to fly a space shuttle into a skyscraper?
We don't need to learning anything about that from them. In fact, they came over here to learn how to do that. :harumph:

ChiefaRoo
07-06-2010, 07:18 PM
JEEEEZZZUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSS CHRRRRRRRRIIIIIISSSSSTTTTT!

fan4ever
07-06-2010, 08:16 PM
I thought the phenomenon of people being humilated for voting for Obama was a largely made up thing by Republicans until I went home this weekend and had some family members of mine talking about how embarassed they were.

I had a friend insist that voting for McCain wouldn't have made any difference; we'd be in exactly the same boat. I told him "Whatever makes you feel better...while your grandchildren pay off our debt".

mikey23545
07-07-2010, 11:02 AM
I had a friend insist that voting for McCain wouldn't have made any difference; we'd be in exactly the same boat. I told him "Whatever makes you feel better...while your grandchildren pay off our debt".

Hell, we would have been far better off having Bush for a third term than having this communistic, terrorist-sympathetic, Chavez-wannabe.

chiefsnorth
07-07-2010, 11:31 AM
So what are these supposed contributions to science?

I find it hard to believe that a 7th century culture is doing a lot of ground-breaking in science today.

Anything in the last 1000 years or so?

vailpass
07-07-2010, 11:40 AM
Giving muslimes access to current missile technology sounds like a good idea to me.
Can you imagine how hard the Taliban is laughing at obama right about now?

The Mad Crapper
07-07-2010, 12:19 PM
New Logo

http://www.moonbattery.com/nasa3.jpg

chiefsnorth
07-07-2010, 08:45 PM
So what are these supposed contributions to science?

I find it hard to believe that a 7th century culture is doing a lot of ground-breaking in science today.

Anything in the last 1000 years or so?

Anyone...?

banyon
07-07-2010, 08:56 PM
Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

If this is supposed to be the smoking gun for the thread title, it does not support it. Nowhere in here is this equivalent to saying that NASA's primary job is to encourage Muslims. What a ridiculous (and almost certainly devoid of contect) distortion.

Those sound like a list of policy goals for this administration's NASA program. As a figurehead/administrator, it's not like this guy was supposed to be in the trenches solving astronometric algorhythms to get us past pluto. His job is a political one and that's about conducting relationships with other people and agencies. The stuff some of you guys wring your hands about is hilarious.

Rain Man
07-07-2010, 09:00 PM
Anyone...?


The arab world is a leader in the development of roadside bombs, chest-mounted bombs, woman-mounted bombs, child-mounted bombs, car bombs, radio-controlled bombs, bombs that blow up people, bombs that blow up statues, bombs that blow up children, children's TV shows about bombing Israel, adult TV shows about bombing Israel, bomb threats, bombastic bomb threats, and hummus. Anything in there we can use?

WoodDraw
07-07-2010, 09:07 PM
People are so silly. He was talking to Al Jazeera in an interview. What would people here expect him to say? Muslims suck, and we hate Israel?

RedNeckRaider
07-07-2010, 09:29 PM
The title is pretty misleading, but after listening to his babbling fictional speech about the history of the Statue of Liberty nothing this embarrassment says surprises me~

Lzen
07-07-2010, 09:39 PM
I had a friend insist that voting for McCain wouldn't have made any difference; we'd be in exactly the same boat. I told him "Whatever makes you feel better...while your grandchildren pay off our debt".

There were a lot of things that I disliked about McCain. The only reason I voted for him is that I felt he was the lesser of two evils. I knew Obama was going to be bad, but I had no idea it was going to be this bad. :grr:

Taco John
07-07-2010, 09:40 PM
Nowhere in here is this equivalent to saying that NASA's primary job is to encourage Muslims.

Forget primary. Where on NASA's list of priorities do you think encouraging Muslims should fit in? Should it even make the list?

WoodDraw
07-07-2010, 09:42 PM
Forget primary. Where on NASA's list of priorities do you think encouraging Muslims should fit in? Should it even make the list?

PR?

Lzen
07-07-2010, 09:44 PM
If this is supposed to be the smoking gun for the thread title, it does not support it. Nowhere in here is this equivalent to saying that NASA's primary job is to encourage Muslims. What a ridiculous (and almost certainly devoid of contect) distortion.

Those sound like a list of policy goals for this administration's NASA program. As a figurehead/administrator, it's not like this guy was supposed to be in the trenches solving astronometric algorhythms to get us past pluto. His job is a political one and that's about conducting relationships with other people and agencies. The stuff some of you guys wring your hands about is hilarious.

Wow, talk about being delusional. Yeah, it doesn't say he said "NASA's primary job". It still infers that Obama wanted him to engage more with Muslims. That has not a fucking thing to do with NASA's mission. And if you think so, you are a fool and an Obama shill.

Lzen
07-07-2010, 09:45 PM
NASA is not supposed to be an international relations agency. WTF is wrong with you people?

blaise
07-07-2010, 09:49 PM
I don't consider it a big deal, but I think it's funny that we can't have a Christmas tree in an airport without some group spazzing about it, because it's considered an endorsement of Christianity, yet we can specifically "reach out to the Muslim world" and not consider that any kind of endorsement of a specific faith.

WoodDraw
07-07-2010, 09:52 PM
Everyone is giving too much significance to one quote that was meant for one audience. Would the same outrage be here if people were talking about the scientific accomplishments of the Israelis? It's just pandering during an interview...

NASA's budget has nothing to do with anything other than Congress, and their whims.

blaise
07-07-2010, 09:58 PM
Everyone is giving too much significance to one quote that was meant for one audience. Would the same outrage be here if people were talking about the scientific accomplishments of the Israelis? It's just pandering during an interview...

NASA's budget has nothing to do with anything other than Congress, and their whims.

Probably not, but a different crowd would be upset had he suggested cultivating better relationships with Christian nations. I think it's just poorly worded. I understand that certain nations are referred to as Muslim nations, and others aren't generally called Christian nations as a means of describing them, but I would rather he didn't word it like that. In the eyes of the U.S. they should be nations, not Muslim nations.

Guru
07-07-2010, 10:00 PM
Wow, talk about being delusional. Yeah, it doesn't say he said "NASA's primary job". It still infers that Obama wanted him to engage more with Muslims. That has not a ****ing thing to do with NASA's mission. And if you think so, you are a fool and an Obama shill.

NASA is not supposed to be an international relations agency. WTF is wrong with you people?Damn!!! Take a breath will ya. :D

banyon
07-07-2010, 10:00 PM
Wow, talk about being delusional. Yeah, it doesn't say he said "NASA's primary job". It still infers that Obama wanted him to engage more with Muslims. That has not a ****ing thing to do with NASA's mission. And if you think so, you are a fool and an Obama shill.

People have long thought that focusing on things beyond our earth might help resolve the conflicts here. Yelling and calling me names, and ignoring Woodraw's posts about how this was 1 interview with Al-Jazerra doesn't mean the sky will turn red.

It's like the guy going on Sesame Street and \you yelling: WHAT DO MUPPETS HAVE TO DO WITH NASA'S MISSION! ARRGH HULK SMASH!!

Guru
07-07-2010, 10:14 PM
I don't consider it a big deal, but I think it's funny that we can't have a Christmas tree in an airport without some group spazzing about it, because it's considered an endorsement of Christianity, yet we can specifically "reach out to the Muslim world" and not consider that any kind of endorsement of a specific faith.It's amazing isn't it.

The Mad Crapper
07-08-2010, 08:17 AM
Probably not, but a different crowd would be upset had he suggested cultivating better relationships with Christian nations. I think it's just poorly worded. I understand that certain nations are referred to as Muslim nations, and others aren't generally called Christian nations as a means of describing them, but I would rather he didn't word it like that. In the eyes of the U.S. they should be nations, not Muslim nations.

It doesn't make sense because you are a normal person. You have to be a moonbat to understand.

Pioli Zombie
07-09-2010, 08:47 PM
I thought we were supposed to make Homsexuals feel better about themselves.

Iowanian
07-09-2010, 09:50 PM
Sometimes I wonder if Obama is trying harder to be Indonesian, Kenyan or an American.

The Mad Crapper
07-11-2010, 12:57 PM
Sometimes I wonder if Obama is trying harder to be Indonesian, Kenyan or an American.

Well he doesn't have to try to be an American any more since he won the election.

The Mad Crapper
07-12-2010, 07:11 AM
Bolden created a firestorm after telling Al Jazeera last month that President Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

Well... I don't know if this is an indication that they "feel good" or not, but...



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100712/ap_on_re_af/af_uganda_explosions

Donger
07-12-2010, 01:07 PM
White House is now saying that such activities are not among Bolden's assigned tasks.


LMAO

Otter
07-12-2010, 01:10 PM
Sometimes I wonder if Obama is trying harder to be Indonesian, Kenyan or an American.

Apparently it's "incompetent dickhead" first and foremost.