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DaWolf
07-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Apologies if repost:

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/56735627.html

Carter's response prompted another media member to ask if he is mad that Rice has not returned to workout with the group.

"I donít look mad do I?" he said. "I donít get mad about kids coming or not coming. Larry is the only one who invited me. Larry is the only one but some people in Kansas City as far as their administration kind of knew I was going to be here. We kind of let them know that I would be here for [receiver Dwayne] Bowe. But Iím here for Larry. Everybody else is just getting the benefit of our relationship. But Sidney is not here so I guarantee heís not getting no better today."

Bowe made his first appearance at the camp on Thursday and he received some tough love from Carter and Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin. Bowe, who said he took 12 days off from workouts, struggled with his conditioning as the players ran 14 100-yard sprints and then four 50-yard runs.

"Can you imagine your first day coming back to 14 100s?" Bowe said. "Man, it was like college again. Iíve never done this intensive competing, conditioning and technique in one day."

Bowe said he is casual friends with Fitzgerald but he accepted his invitation to join because of the good things he's heard from other players, including Rice. He also wanted an opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from Carter and Irvin.

"You can tell [the potential impact] by the production that Sidney Rice had last year," Bowe said. "I know he had Brett Favre but still. I talked to him a week ago and he told me they competed and it made him [better] and he went to the Pro Bowl. Now I think itís my turn to take over."

keg in kc
07-08-2010, 02:20 PM
Hope he doesn't pop some "conditioning pills" again.

Chocolate Hog
07-08-2010, 02:33 PM
Bowe also did purple drank with Jamarcus Russell.

Christofire
07-08-2010, 02:37 PM
C'mon, dude. How can you take 12 consecutive days off for workouts?

keg in kc
07-08-2010, 02:39 PM
C'mon, dude. How can you take 12 consecutive days off for workouts?Yeah, apparently the message Haley's been trying to hammer home about hard work and greatness hasn't quite sunk in yet.

Although at the same time it may be a good sign that he's at the camp.

Dante84
07-08-2010, 02:43 PM
Is he a camper?

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 02:56 PM
Hearing that he took 12 days off from conditioning sucks, but I doubt that's abnormal. After all, it is a break right before TC.

Im not going to be mad at Bowe for getting winded after running 14 100 yard dashes.

Chocolate Hog
07-08-2010, 02:59 PM
Hearing that he took 12 days off from conditioning sucks, but I doubt that's abnormal. After all, it is a break right before TC.

Im not going to be mad at Bowe for getting winded after running 14 100 yard dashes.

It's his job to be in shape.

talastan
07-08-2010, 03:01 PM
Man I hope for Bowe's sake Haley isn't reading this article. Granted if Bowe shows up to camp in condition than it really doesn't matter. Hey Fitzgerald smack some sense into Bowe and soften up his hands please!!

warpaint*
07-08-2010, 03:04 PM
I hope he takes their advisement to heart but I'm not holding my breath.

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:11 PM
It's his job to be in shape.

Apparently he isn't the only one. If you google his camp, you'll find the same thing said about several players. It's a hard core camp. He was in shape in the OTA's. You think these athletes just get fat and lazy over the course of 12 days?

Gimme a break. We're talking about 14 100 yard dashes here, people.

People just need something to bitch about. Bowe's conditioning will be fine. It's his hands im worried about

Frosty
07-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Even professional athletes needs some recovery times in their work out schedule. I don't think this is an issue.

talastan
07-08-2010, 03:19 PM
Here is another good article on the camp: Check out the bolded part

Fitzgerald fights complacency by hosting receiver camp in Minnesota

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_trotter/07/16/wrs/index.html

This is supposed to be a quiet time in the NFL, with players and coaches enjoying the final two weeks of vacation before the start of training camp. Yet the noise coming out of Minneapolis cannot be ignored.

A PhD course for wide receivers is taking place inside the newly constructed football stadium at the University of Minnesota, where last week's instructor was Jerry Rice, the future first-ballot Hall of Famer who holds every major receiving record, and this week's professor is Cris Carter, whose 130 touchdown catches rank fourth in league history.

The sessions are the brainchild of Arizona Cardinals star Larry Fitzgerald, a Minnesota native who's working to have his name mentioned in the same sentence with the greats of the game when he's done playing. Instead of spending the offseason reflecting on his record-breaking performance for the Cardinals in last season's playoffs, Fitzgerald has spent the past two months draining his cell-phone battery to bring talented receivers and cornerbacks for group workouts.

Among the wideouts who have made the trip are Denver's Brandon Marshall, Buffalo's Lee Evans, Green Bay's Greg Jennings, Tampa Bay's Michael Clayton, Minnesota's Sidney Rice and Cleveland rookie Brian Robiskie. Cornerbacks DeAngelo Hall and Malcolm Jenkins have also attended, as have tight ends Matt Spaeth and Dominique Byrd and linebacker James Laurinaitis. Dallas QB Tony Romo is a maybe for next week.

"Larry hit me up a couple of days ago and was like, 'Hey, let's get back to old times,' " says Hall, who trained with Fitzgerald in Florida in 2005, when each earned his first trip to the Pro Bowl. "I was like, hell yeah. It's good to have players out here who can definitely make you work and get you better. That's why when he ran down the list of some of the guys that were coming, I was like, I'm there."

Fitzgerald booked hotel rooms for each of them and set up a chow line at his lakefront home in Eden Prairie, where some guys pass the down time by jet skiing or playing in pick-up basketball games. Despite the fun, at no time does anyone lose sight of the fact that he is there to improve his football skills.

Rice and Carter can be brutally honest, such as when Carter tells Byrd, the Arizona tight end with an admitted reputation for being lazy: "You're a wide receiver in a fat man's body."

Layered beneath the jokes are information nuggets. Rice and Carter aren't just telling them how to do something, but why they're doing it. The unspoken truth is that ignorance is as deadly as speed.

Carter is big on technique, adding: "Everyone at this level has athletic talent. You need more than that to make it."

When Evans glanced at the players assembled, he shook his head. It's one thing to get guys to train in Miami during their free time, but Minneapolis? The gathering was a testament to Fitzgerald's powers of persuasion and the players' desire to get better.

"It's an opportunity for me to get a chance to come out here and see some of the things that they do, to work with Cris Carter a little bit and see how he sees things, just be around the guys," says Evans. "I couldn't make it last week when Jerry was here, but I definitely wanted to come up and see what Cris had to say. It's a good deal anytime you can hear something different and try to diversify your game a little bit.

"The way Cris teaches us to run a route, I never heard it put that way. What he was teaching wasn't new. It's just the way he said it that you could relate to. Like they always say, there's more than one way to skin a cat. You've got to find what works for you. It may or may not help you, but it worked for him and you see what kind of career he had."

The mornings are basically on-field chalkboard sessions. Ideas are shared and compared. But let there be no doubt, the workouts are as demanding physically as they are enlightening mentally. Different days are devoted to different things, be it improving speed, agility, strength, technique. One of the mornings concluded with the players running 16 110-yard sprints, with limited rest in between. It was enough to make an onlooker feel like he was going to lose his breakfast.

"Complacency is a terrible thing to have in our business," says Fitzgerald. "Todd Haley talked to me about that our first year together [in Arizona]. It's kind of the worst thing you can ever have in sports -- complacency in losing, complacency in winning. You must never forget the hard work that it takes to be successful out there."
That's the kind of talk that could have the Cardinals making noise in the playoffs again this season.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_trotter/07/16/wrs/index.html#ixzz0t7zdZacr

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Even professional athletes needs some recovery times in their work out schedule. I don't think this is an issue.

It's just people bandwagoning. It's the offseason after all. If you read the same articel at Arrowhead Pride they're doing the same shit.

"OMGZ Bowe will never learn! Im so sick of his shit" blah blah blah.

Like damn...14 100 yard dashes and a 4 50 yard dashes will make anyone struggle with their conditioning.

doomy3
07-08-2010, 03:23 PM
It's his job to be in shape.

It's too bad it's not your job to be a dumbass. You could make a fortune.

Fruit Ninja
07-08-2010, 03:25 PM
It's his job to be in shape.
Its also his job to rest his body. He will take about 2-3 days before he gets his legs under him the way these atheletes are used of it. As long as he wasnt eating junk food the whole time, he's going to be fine.

Brock
07-08-2010, 03:25 PM
Don't you know 1000 yard receivers grow on trees? CUT HIS ASS /cp

Fruit Ninja
07-08-2010, 03:27 PM
It's just people bandwagoning. It's the offseason after all. If you read the same articel at Arrowhead Pride they're doing the same shit.

"OMGZ Bowe will never learn! Im so sick of his shit" blah blah blah.

Like damn...14 100 yard dashes and a 4 50 yard dashes will make anyone struggle with their conditioning.

NO shit, thats brutal for anyone to run. In shape or not. A 12 day off Bowe is still in better shape then pretty much 99 percent of the human population. lol

Mojo Jojo
07-08-2010, 03:28 PM
I've said before, and I'm saying it again:
It's ironic how far posters on this board will go to defend a Carl Peterson & Herm Edwards draft pick. Some of these same people bitch all the time about Carl and player evaluation.

Rooster
07-08-2010, 03:29 PM
Im not going to be mad at Bowe for getting winded after running 14 100 yard dashes.

I would be winded 14 yards into a 100 yard dash. :D

doomy3
07-08-2010, 03:29 PM
I've said before, and I'm saying it again:
It's ironic how far posters on this board will go to defend a Carl Peterson & Herm Edwards draft pick. Some of these same people bitch all the time about Carl and player evaluation.

What does that have to do with this article or the responses so far?

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:30 PM
I've said before, and I'm saying it again:
It's ironic how far posters on this board will go to defend a Carl Peterson & Herm Edwards draft pick. Some of these same people bitch all the time about Carl and player evaluation.

WTF does Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards have to with this? This is about people over reacting to Bowe's conditioning. It's not defending, it's having common sense.

Hog Farmer
07-08-2010, 03:31 PM
12 days off. Once again he doesn't know when to shut his trap.

CoMoChief
07-08-2010, 03:33 PM
"You can tell [the potential impact] by the production that Sidney Rice had last year," Bowe said. "I know he had Brett Favre but still.

Another words.....Cassel sucks the mean peen.

Mojo Jojo
07-08-2010, 03:36 PM
WTF does Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards have to with this? This is about people over reacting to Bowe's conditioning. It's not defending, it's having common sense.

Maybe he wasn't a great draft pick? See Ryan Sims. Attitude is everything to being the best and so far D Bowe doesn't want to work hard.

keg in kc
07-08-2010, 03:36 PM
Chip Scoggins (the dude who wrote the article in the header) is going to be on nick wright's show in the 5 o'clock hour to talk about it.

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:38 PM
Chip Scoggins (the dude who wrote the article in the header) is going to be on nick wright's show in the 5 o'clock hour to talk about it.

Good Lookin' out.

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:40 PM
Maybe he wasn't a great draft pick? See Ryan Sims. Attitude is everything to being the best and so far D Bowe doesn't want to work hard.

Why because he took 12 days off? Ever thought that maybe Herm didn't teach him to work hard? He came into OTA's in great condition, so apparently some of Haley's message is getting through.

Haley approved of his conditioning so who gives a shit that he took 12 days off from working out. 12 Days off doesn't throw a whole year away, sorry.

Mojo Jojo
07-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Why because he took 12 days off? Ever thought that maybe Herm didn't teach him to work hard? He came into OTA's in great condition, so apparently some of Haley's message is getting through.

Haley approved of his conditioning so who gives a shit that he took 12 days off from working out. 12 Days off doesn't throw a whole year away, sorry.

You can't say that for sure. It may. I guess we will have to wait and see.

keg in kc
07-08-2010, 03:45 PM
Chip Scoggins (the dude who wrote the article in the header) is going to be on nick wright's show in the 5 o'clock hour to talk about it.Check that, he's on right now, on 610.

Brock
07-08-2010, 03:46 PM
Maybe he wasn't a great draft pick? See Ryan Sims. Attitude is everything to being the best and so far D Bowe doesn't want to work hard.

You're comparing Bowe to Ryan Sims? LOL, genius.

Fruit Ninja
07-08-2010, 03:46 PM
Maybe he wasn't a great draft pick? See Ryan Sims. Attitude is everything to being the best and so far D Bowe doesn't want to work hard.

If that was true, he wouldnt be at the camp. He would have said fuck that camp.

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:46 PM
You can't say that for sure. It may. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Here is what we know. Last season, under Herm's expectations, Bowe was out of shape. This year, under Haley's expectations, Bowe is in shape.

I think we can draw some conclusions from there.

Now, whether or not Bowe is bright enough to pick up the nuances of the position of the playbook, who knows.

Fruit Ninja
07-08-2010, 03:47 PM
You can't say that for sure. It may. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Yesyou can, considering training camp is fucking what 3-4 weeks away? come on now. Your not this stupid are you?

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:47 PM
Dwayne is there for all 3 weeks, nice

bevischief
07-08-2010, 03:50 PM
Think they can teach him to catch the ball...?

Marcellus
07-08-2010, 03:52 PM
I'm just pleased to hear he is going to a camp during his time off rather than going on his own and slacking or even doing mediocre workouts. Regardless of the outcome that's a sign he wants to be better.

How you can bitch about that is beyond me.

keg in kc
07-08-2010, 03:53 PM
Sounds like maybe somebody in the Chiefs front office reached out to Cris Carter, who prodded Fitzgerald into inviting him. Big props to him if he sticks the whole three weeks. Reporter said he seemed really upbeat and receptive to everything that was going on.

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 03:56 PM
everything said on 610 was very positive.

morphius
07-08-2010, 04:06 PM
At least he is getting an understanding of what the elite guys are really doing, if we are lucky some of it will stick.

Detoxing
07-08-2010, 04:25 PM
At least he is getting an understanding of what the elite guys are really doing, if we are lucky some of it will stick.

It can't make him any worse. I think a lot of it will stick. I believe he genuinely wants to be one of the best.

He has an ego to feed, ya know.

Tiger's Fan
07-08-2010, 04:30 PM
Per Chip Scoggins of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Carter and Irvin supplied some "tough love" for Bowe, whom one league source recently described to us as "the single biggest dumbass in the NFL."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/08/cris-carter-michael-irvin-provide-tough-love-to-dwayne-bowe/

the Talking Can
07-08-2010, 04:40 PM
Bowe is one of the dumbest humans on the planet...he needs a peer like Carter to tell him in 'bowe language' that he's wasting his talent....

it's good he's there....compare it to last off season when he was being forced by his grandma to take drugs instead of work out....or whatever...

LaChapelle
07-08-2010, 04:49 PM
Intelligence and WR don't need to walk hand and hand
Heart and desire can easily trump that weakness

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-08-2010, 05:23 PM
"You can tell [the potential impact] by the production that Sidney Rice had last year," Bowe said. "I know he had Brett Favre but still.

Another words.....Cassel sucks the mean peen.

LMAO Ha! Beat me to it. Good eyes, good eyes.

Mr. Laz
07-08-2010, 06:27 PM
i hope they work the dog snot outa Bowe

run him until he pukes ever day

maybe if he gets into shape he can focus better on catching the ball

Von Dumbass
07-08-2010, 06:50 PM
Eric Decker is there too. :)

-King-
07-08-2010, 06:54 PM
Wow. Before this article I thought NFL players worked for 26 hrs a day and 400 days a year. Obviously Bowe has been slacking. I've never heard of an NFL player taking a break.

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-08-2010, 08:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxDshjQ52NA

Yep.

beach tribe
07-09-2010, 06:02 AM
So the dude took 12 days off. BFD. What that tells me is that he's been busting ass other than those 12 days. I am not the least bit bothered by this.

Omaha
07-09-2010, 07:58 AM
Maybe he wasn't a great draft pick? See Ryan Sims. Attitude is everything to being the best and so far D Bowe doesn't want to work hard.

I think that's a bit off. All reports were that he was working hard during the OTAs & now he's at this camp. It's not all that unusual for guys to take a week or 2 to rest during intense trianing. I feel like there are a lot of guys who WANT him to be the next Ryan Sims.

KCtotheSB
07-09-2010, 08:14 AM
Early on, Bowe exceeded my lowly expecatations. After his first two seasons, I expected much greater things from him and since then, he's played and acted like a f**kwit. My expectations are once again, lowly....

petegz28
07-09-2010, 08:35 AM
Dude came to all the OTA's and min-camp in shape. Dude particiapted in all of them. Dude is getting ready to into training camp in 2 weeks. Dude is in a WR camp right now. Dude can take 12 days off in the 1.5 months between mini and TC and enjoy life a touch.

Marcellus
07-09-2010, 09:05 AM
LMAO Ha! Beat me to it. Good eyes, good eyes.

I am pretty sure everybody saw that quote in the article and new the typical people were going to spin it.

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-09-2010, 10:44 AM
I am pretty sure everybody saw that quote in the article and new the typical people were going to spin it.

It would be criminal not to.

Thx! :thumb:

Von Dumbass
07-09-2010, 05:52 PM
I think I saw the back of Bowe's head in this video of Larry Fitzgerald's camp. But I know I saw Eric Decker there. Sounds like Chris Carter thinks Denver got a steal with Decker :)

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Chocolate Hog
07-09-2010, 05:53 PM
Dude came to all the OTA's and min-camp in shape. Dude particiapted in all of them. Dude is getting ready to into training camp in 2 weeks. Dude is in a WR camp right now. Dude can take 12 days off in the 1.5 months between mini and TC and enjoy life a touch.

He's making millions of dollars to play a game. The least he can do is be in shape. He'll have all the time off he wants when he retires.