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DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 09:30 AM
LA will be dethroned. The LAC Lake Show will be dead. So it's time to create a thread to follow the new dynasty.

Going on tour starting this October.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0708/pg2_07082010_576.jpg

CaliforniaChief
07-09-2010, 09:31 AM
LMAO

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 09:31 AM
In.
Posted via Mobile Device

loochy
07-09-2010, 09:32 AM
Someone needs to Tonya Harding his ass...

ChiTown
07-09-2010, 09:33 AM
I hope LeMe snaps an ACL 3 games into the season. F Miami, and F LeMe

Fat Elvis
07-09-2010, 09:33 AM
When did Harvey Williams start playing pro basketball?

DA_T_84
07-09-2010, 09:34 AM
I'll be sitting so close when the Heat come to KC that LeBron's chalk-dust will cause me eye irritation.

Good thing I bought the tickets last week :)

Delano
07-09-2010, 09:43 AM
Can we get a filter that turns any post containing the phrase "3-4-6 Mafia" into one that consists of the phrase "I am lacking awesome."

MODS?

kstater
07-09-2010, 09:44 AM
Good to see you found another bandwagon to hop on.

El Jefe
07-09-2010, 09:47 AM
Yeah for LBGay

Woodrow Call
07-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Best of luck to you and BandwagonHawk.

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 09:48 AM
Good to see you found another bandwagon to hop on.

Really? LMAO

I grew up in South Florida. Went to my first Heat game when they had Rony Seikaly & Glen Rice. At the old Miami Arena. Went to the AAA when it first opened, watched Tim Hardaway & Zo & Keith Askins & Jamal Mashburn & Thunder Dan. Went through the years when the free agent acquisitions were Otis Thorpe & Terry Porter.

But, yeah, I'm a bandwagon fan. :LOL: What other bandwagons have I jumped on?

Delano
07-09-2010, 09:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/sqDim.jpg

Pestilence
07-09-2010, 09:49 AM
Who came up with that stupid fucking 3-4-6 mafia bullshit?

Sofa King
07-09-2010, 09:51 AM
LeBron is a pillowbiter

The Bad Guy
07-09-2010, 09:52 AM
I'll be sitting so close when the Heat come to KC that LeBron's chalk-dust will cause me eye irritation.

Good thing I bought the tickets last week :)

Yeah, you'll be sitting so close to him watching him on the bench. NBA Stars don't play a lot in the preseason.

Mr. Arrowhead
07-09-2010, 09:53 AM
just wait til D wade gets hurt like he usually does.

The Bad Guy
07-09-2010, 09:53 AM
Best of luck to you and BandwagonHawk.

He sees nothing wrong with it like he's a 6th grader jumping on a bandwagon because it's a "cool" thing to do.

While you're at it, Hawk, go root for the fucking Chargers too.

Mr. Arrowhead
07-09-2010, 09:54 AM
Really? LMAO

I grew up in South Florida. Went to my first Heat game when they had Rony Seikaly & Glen Rice. At the old Miami Arena. Went to the AAA when it first opened, watched Tim Hardaway & Zo & Keith Askins & Jamal Mashburn & Thunder Dan. Went through the years when the free agent acquisitions were Otis Thorpe & Terry Porter.

But, yeah, I'm a bandwagon fan. :LOL: What other bandwagons have I jumped on?

Then why didnt you make this thread til now.

El Jefe
07-09-2010, 09:58 AM
just wait til D wade gets hurt like he usually does.

Even if he does, LBJ and Bosh will/could be a terror. I don't care for Lebron either way though.

L.A. Chieffan
07-09-2010, 09:59 AM
imitation is the sincerest form of cocksuckery.

have fun getting 82 games worth of minutes out of your 5,6,7,8 guys!

Delano
07-09-2010, 10:09 AM
Miami geniousity: trade the 2008 second overall pick for a bag of walmart animal crackers.

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 10:25 AM
He sees nothing wrong with it like he's a 6th grader jumping on a bandwagon because it's a "cool" thing to do.

While you're at it, Hawk, go root for the ****ing Chargers too.Fuck that. I have a pro football team I have followed my whole life. So in your eyes do you have to pick a team as a child to be allowed to like them as an adult. I have never followed the NBA other than the playoffs or to watch KU players that made it. So tell me what is so wrong if I decide to root for a team?

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 10:26 AM
Best of luck to you and BandwagonHawk.I guess since I was never a fan of an NBA team I shouldn't be allowed to root for the NBA. Fuck you.

CaliforniaChief
07-09-2010, 10:29 AM
LA will be dethroned. The LAC Lake Show will be dead. So it's time to create a thread to follow the new dynasty.

Going on tour starting this October.


http://www.hachisvertas.net/temp/gif/brown_block_LOL.GIF

Saulbadguy
07-09-2010, 10:33 AM
Fuck that. I have a pro football team I have followed my whole life. So in your eyes do you have to pick a team as a child to be allowed to like them as an adult. I have never followed the NBA other than the playoffs or to watch KU players that made it. So tell me what is so wrong if I decide to root for a team?

Well, the cheerleaders as your new signature is kind of lame. I mean, you've only rooted for them for 1 day. Kind of soon to be sporting the new digs.

kysirsoze
07-09-2010, 10:35 AM
I guess since I was never a fan of an NBA team I shouldn't be allowed to root for the NBA. **** you.

Dude, picking the Heat as LeBron signs there? It's your right, sure. But it is also the definition of bandwagoning. If you're cool with that then who cares?

I plan on reverse bandwagoning and specifically rooting against LeBron and the Heat which currently represent what I hate in professional sports.

teedubya
07-09-2010, 10:38 AM
I like the Celtics because of Paul Pierce, the Heat because of Chalmers, the Pacers because of Rush, Oklahoma City because of Aldrich, Memphis because of X and D Arthur.

I just want one of my 'hawks to win it all each year. Any of these teams can win it... I'm bandwagon cool, like that.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-09-2010, 10:39 AM
As a former Supersonics fan, I've always hated the Lakers. The Soni......err..........Thunder are now looking like they may contend in the next year or two with Durant re-signing and their front office moves.

Looks like I'm a Heat fan now. Call me bandwagon all you want. I've got my reasons.

Saulbadguy
07-09-2010, 10:41 AM
I like the Celtics because of Paul Pierce, the Heat because of Chalmers, the Pacers because of Rush, Oklahoma City because of Aldrich, Memphis because of X and D Arthur.

I just want one of my 'hawks to win it all each year. Any of these teams can win it... I'm bandwagon cool, like that.

That's hilarious and typical dumbassery.

Consistent1
07-09-2010, 10:45 AM
Just got this earlier this morn. Tight. It's like LeBron mixed with Affliction. You know how that works with the ladies. Anyway, can't wait for FeDex to get here with my Bosh and LBJ jersey pack. The bill stays flat (that's how I do), but what angle should I rock this shit at fellas?

Saulbadguy
07-09-2010, 10:47 AM
Just got this earlier this morn. Tight. It's like LeBron mixed with Affliction. You know how that works with the ladies. Anyway, can't wait for FeDex to get here with my Bosh and LBJ jersey pack. The bill stays flat (that's how I do), but what angle should I rock this shit at fellas?

Oh, my.

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 10:49 AM
Just got this earlier this morn. Tight. It's like LeBron mixed with Affliction. You know how that works with the ladies. Anyway, can't wait for FeDex to get here with my Bosh and LBJ jersey pack. The bill stays flat (that's how I do), but what angle should I rock this shit at fellas?That hat is gay.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-09-2010, 10:51 AM
LOL, you guys are getting tro11ed.

kysirsoze
07-09-2010, 10:52 AM
As a former Supersonics fan, I've always hated the Lakers. The Soni......err..........Thunder are now looking like they may contend in the next year or two with Durant re-signing and their front office moves.

Looks like I'm a Heat fan now. Call me bandwagon all you want. I've got my reasons.

bandwagon

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 10:53 AM
Well, the cheerleaders as your new signature is kind of lame. I mean, you've only rooted for them for 1 day. Kind of soon to be sporting the new digs.Your right it is lame but they are hot. I rooted for the Heat to win the Championship in '06 so I have more than 1 day. More like 10. :D

Consistent1
07-09-2010, 10:53 AM
That hat is gay.

Yeah, yeah....you got me there. next thing you will tell me is that sarcasm on CP is gay also....

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 10:54 AM
Yeah, yeah....you got me there. next thing you will tell me is that sarcasm on CP is gay also....No sarcasm is cool. Sometimes the filter breaks though. Please end sarcasm with /sarcasm.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-09-2010, 10:55 AM
bandwagon

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Mr. Flopnuts
07-09-2010, 10:56 AM
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The Rick
07-09-2010, 11:06 AM
I like the Celtics because of Paul Pierce, the Heat because of Chalmers, the Pacers because of Rush, Oklahoma City because of Aldrich, Memphis because of X and D Arthur.

I just want one of my 'hawks to win it all each year. Any of these teams can win it... I'm bandwagon cool, like that.
The Bucks just signed Drew Gooden to a multi-year deal... :)

Param
07-09-2010, 11:09 AM
Can we get a filter that turns any post containing the phrase "3-4-6 Mafia" into one that consists of the phrase "I am lacking awesome."

MODS?

Nice thread we got here. Will definitely get tixs to Heat games.

Also, Bosh will be wearing #1.

Consistent1
07-09-2010, 11:15 AM
Nice thread we got here. Will definitely get tixs to Heat games.

Also, Bosh will be wearing #1.

#1 tip-dawg. These otha niggas gonna get me out of Canada. I bet these fools can make it where we don't even play away games there evah. We all rich anyway. We come up w/our own show brand and even Lebron don't ansa to Nike no more. That is after the record label of course. I take a little less to get more juice...

teedubya
07-09-2010, 11:29 AM
That's hilarious and typical dumbassery.

Why douche? Last I checked there was no team in KC... and I don't really care about NBA. In fact, I think I watched about 1 hour total all season, except for Game 7.

NBA is way down the list for me.

teedubya
07-09-2010, 11:30 AM
I do however, like watching the NBA developmental league... that is interesting.

KC Dan
07-09-2010, 11:33 AM
As a former Supersonics fan, I've always hated the Lakers. The Soni......err..........Thunder are now looking like they may contend in the next year or two with Durant re-signing and their front office moves.

Looks like I'm a Heat fan now. Call me bandwagon all you want. I've got my reasons.
I'd rather use the word SELL-OUT

LMAO

Param
07-09-2010, 11:34 AM
Also, Bosh will be wearing #1.

I take it back, looks like Bosh is rocking #00 according to nba.com jersey sale.

Fruit Ninja
07-09-2010, 11:36 AM
http://www.benchwarmersunited.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kobe-Bryant.jpg

Is still the Champ.

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 11:38 AM
http://www.benchwarmersunited.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/kobe-Bryant.jpg

Is still the Champ.There is a thread for this.

KCrockaholic
07-09-2010, 11:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/sqDim.jpg

This is retarded. It's not like he's LJ. LeBron gave Cleveland something to be excited about every game. That city would have had NOTHING without him. They got 7 great years, and he did everything in his power to win them a championship, yet Cleveland never got the players needed to win it all. Single players can dominate a season. But teams have to come together and work together to win championships. LeBron never had another great player on his team to help him in the playoffs, instead it was all left up to him. His decision was smart, because Cleveland wasn't doing anything to help themselves yet in FA. But the Heat had Bosh and Wade. LeBron put aside his ego to go to a city that is primed to win a title. Nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, isn't that what this game should be all about? Winning?

It was a good business decision, and if Cleveland had went and signed Bosh and Wade, LeBron would have stayed in Cleveland. It's that simple. He wants to win Championships and he knows this is the best way to make it happen.

DA_T_84
07-09-2010, 11:41 AM
Lebron in Cleveland = Barry Sanders in Detroit

I think in a few years, it will be quite clear that this was a better decision.

And Cleveland's owner is a little bitch.

Saulbadguy
07-09-2010, 11:42 AM
This is retarded. It's not like he's LJ. LeBron gave Cleveland something to be excited about every game. That city would have had NOTHING without him. They got 7 great years, and he did everything in his power to win them a championship, yet Cleveland never got the players needed to win it all. Single players can dominate a season. But teams have to come together and work together to win championships. LeBron never had another great player on his team to help him in the playoffs, instead it was all left up to him. His decision was smart, because Cleveland wasn't doing anything to help themselves yet in FA. But the Heat had Bosh and Wade. LeBron put aside his ego to go to a city that is primed to win a title. Nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, isn't that what this game should be all about? Winning?

It was a good business decision, and if Cleveland had went and signed Bosh and Wade, LeBron would have stayed in Cleveland. It's that simple. He wants to win Championships and he knows this is the best way to make it happen.

I think the sideshow he put on with his "Decision" is a large contributing factor of the hate going on.

BossChief
07-09-2010, 11:44 AM
they have a good nucleus to build around, but until they get about 5 or 6 GOOD role players to go along with all that big time talent or they wont win the whole thing.

They need another good rebounder, a clutch 3 point shooter (with those three out there they need a guy to take the wide open threes from the corner every game), and a defensive specialist. Just as a start.

That team should be really good, but it isn't gonna happen overnight IMO.

They have a chance to be one of the best teams in NBA history though if they can play as a team and add the role players they will need.

In time.

L.A. Chieffan
07-09-2010, 11:44 AM
Lebron in Cleveland = Barry Sanders in Detroit

I think in a few years, it will be quite clear that this was a better decision.

And Cleveland's owner is a little bitch.

its not about winning

teedubya
07-09-2010, 11:45 AM
I have to admit that I will enjoy watching Chalmers dish it to Lebron, Bosh and Dwade...

then under pressure having him knock down some money shot in the finals to win it all. lol

What about Michael Coolbeas? They must not think to highly of him, eh?

KCrockaholic
07-09-2010, 11:45 AM
I think the sideshow he put on with his "Decision" is a large contributing factor of the hate going on.

Oh I don't blame people with that. I think ESPN having an entire hour to LeBron was over the top and pathetic. But...guess what? ESPN got the ratings they wanted and that's what it's all about. It was dramatic, but ESPN was smart to do it.

But at the same time, I don't understand why people hate LeBron? What has he done wrong? Did he rape a girl? No. We'll save that for Kobe.

DeezNutz
07-09-2010, 11:46 AM
Looks like I'm a Heat fan now. Call me bandwagon all you want. I've got my reasons.

After last night's travesty, I don't believe there's any justification for outsiders to cheer for Wade's team, not even for ex-Sonics faithful.

teedubya
07-09-2010, 11:46 AM
Michael Bustley dealt to Twolves hell. Love it.

KCrockaholic
07-09-2010, 11:46 AM
they have a good nucleus to build around, but until they get about 5 or 6 GOOD role players to go along with all that big time talent or they wont win the whole thing.

They need another good rebounder, a clutch 3 point shooter (with those three out there they need a guy to take the wide open threes from the corner every game), and a defensive specialist. Just as a start.

That team should be really good, but it isn't gonna happen overnight IMO.

They have a chance to be one of the best teams in NBA history though if they can play as a team and add the role players they will need.

In time.

I think I can agree with this assessment.

ROYC75
07-09-2010, 11:47 AM
WOW........ Pretty lame.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Cavs-owner-Cleveland-fans-don-t-deserve-this-c?urn=nba,254750

Saulbadguy
07-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Oh I don't blame people with that. I think ESPN having an entire hour to LeBron was over the top and pathetic. But...guess what? ESPN got the ratings they wanted and that's what it's all about. It was dramatic, but ESPN was smart to do it.

But at the same time, I don't understand why people hate LeBron? What has he done wrong? Did he rape a girl? No. We'll save that for Kobe.

I don't hate Lebron, or Kobe.

But I understand why Cleveland fans would be pissed off at Lebron.

BossChief
07-09-2010, 11:52 AM
I don't hate Lebron, or Kobe.

But I understand why Cleveland fans would be pissed off at Lebron.

they should have done A LOT more when they had the chance.

7 years with the kid and they essentially made very little/no moves on a championship level.

I would have left too and the way that owner and others took it (and more importantly how they responded) shows such a glaring lack of class that it was evident that Lebron deserved a better situation. I just think he would have done MUCH better if he had chosen to go to Chicago and I really dont like the Bulls.

That roster in Chicago with Lebron added could have been ready a lot sooner than Miami IMO.

KCrockaholic
07-09-2010, 11:52 AM
I don't hate Lebron, or Kobe.

But I understand why Cleveland fans would be pissed off at Lebron.

But I hope they understand that this was in the best interest of LeBron. In this situation, the player comes before the city. Because he is bigger than the city.

I mean, I guess I could compare it too....If Tony Gonzalez left KC as a FA at age 28. And he wanted to win a title, but knew it wouldn't happen in KC. I would be sad, but I couldn't hold it against him if I knew the rest of the team is utter shit.

DA_T_84
07-09-2010, 11:54 AM
I don't hate Lebron, or Kobe.

But I understand why Cleveland fans would be pissed off at Lebron.

They should be pissed off at the Cav's organization. 6 years too late Shaq, Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, and Ben Wallace was the best they could do to bring in help??

This ones not on LeBron. They can be pissed about being the quasi-fat prude chick who was dumped at the prom in front of the whole school, but they can't be pissed at LeBron for dating the hotter chick who is going to bang him.

teedubya
07-09-2010, 11:56 AM
Open Letter to Fans from Cavaliers Majority Owner Dan Gilbert


Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;

As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.

This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.

Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.

The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.

There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.

You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.

You have given so much and deserve so much more.

In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE"

You can take it to the bank.

If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.

Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.

Sorry, but that's simply not how it works.

This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow-up to become.

But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio.

The self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.

Just watch.

Sleep well, Cleveland.

Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day....

I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:

DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue....



Dan Gilbert
Majority Owner
Cleveland Cavaliers

teedubya
07-09-2010, 11:57 AM
I love the comic sans of his original letter, so I had to add it for awesomeness.

BossChief
07-09-2010, 11:59 AM
When I read that BS on ESPN last night, I LITERALLY :facepalm: 'd him

what a fucking joke of an owner

Amnorix
07-09-2010, 12:01 PM
Anyone else read about the "China agreement" and that Chris Paul will join this new big 3 when he becomes a FA. That really would set up the dynasty.

I have to say, I thought Chicago was a better fit for LeBron, and I'm not at all sure that LeBron has the right pieces around him to win a championship. He'd be better with top shelf point guard and center instead of another scorer and Bosh. We'll see.

Amnorix
07-09-2010, 12:02 PM
Dan Gilbert
Majority Owner
Cleveland Cavaliers

An absolute embarassment. Really and truly. I pity Cleveland sports fans. What the hell did they ever do to deserve what they have suffered for 50 years. Modell and now this guy. Oy vey.

KCrockaholic
07-09-2010, 12:07 PM
That letter is just sad. What a moron.

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 12:10 PM
Really? LMAO

I grew up in South Florida. Went to my first Heat game when they had Rony Seikaly & Glen Rice. At the old Miami Arena. Went to the AAA when it first opened, watched Tim Hardaway & Zo & Keith Askins & Jamal Mashburn & Thunder Dan. Went through the years when the free agent acquisitions were Otis Thorpe & Terry Porter.

But, yeah, I'm a bandwagon fan. :LOL: What other bandwagons have I jumped on?

the florida marlins and tampa bay rays both come to mind. you don't give a shit about either of them when they're shitty (note, you call yourself a rays fan now that the marlins suck, and you were never a DEVIL RAYS fan), but you're all over their junk when it's convenient to you.

Param
07-09-2010, 12:11 PM
Michael Bustley dealt to Twolves hell. Love it.

Yep, he needed to go!

DJ's left nut
07-09-2010, 12:15 PM
they have a good nucleus to build around, but until they get about 5 or 6 GOOD role players to go along with all that big time talent or they wont win the whole thing.

They need another good rebounder, a clutch 3 point shooter (with those three out there they need a guy to take the wide open threes from the corner every game), and a defensive specialist. Just as a start.

That team should be really good, but it isn't gonna happen overnight IMO.

They have a chance to be one of the best teams in NBA history though if they can play as a team and add the role players they will need.

In time.

Something that folks keep forgetting: The Lockout.

The rumblings are that they'll eliminate the MLE.

So with those 3 guys and few parts around them, what happens when they can't use the MLE to bring in supporting talent? Either a bunch of old dudes at the veterans minimum or they'll have to draft like a MFer.

Because with nobody currently on their roster, they won't even have any good expiring contracts for sign/trade deals to bring in talent.

This is a very very ballsy way to build a team and it absolutely could backfire on them.

Don't crown their asses just yet.

CaliforniaChief
07-09-2010, 12:16 PM
Rony Seikaly waiting by his phone for the call from Pat Riley.

Veteran's Minimum FTW!

Param
07-09-2010, 12:33 PM
JAMES
WADE
MILLER
BOSH

team is coming together. Chalmers is already under contract so that will make 5 players.

Param
07-09-2010, 01:00 PM
Just add the role players and the team is good to go. The Heat have a qualifying offer for Joel Anthony. Players will come to Miami and this team is gonna be ready to go starting now.

BossChief
07-09-2010, 01:05 PM
Ray Allen
Kevin Garnett
Glen Davis
paul Pierce
Rondo
Rasheed

and that wasnt good enough to beat LA

the Heat still have a ways to go, but I think they have the ownership and front office to make it happen if they continue to think "outside the box"

Wade Bron and Bosh is a good start, but that is IT right now, nothing more than a good start.

Param
07-09-2010, 01:27 PM
"

Wade Bron and Bosh is a good start, but that is IT right now, nothing more than a good start.

:LOL: A good start...:LOL:

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 01:40 PM
:LOL: A good start...:LOL:http://www.evetahmincioglu.com/web/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tony-the-tiger-frosties.jpg

Frazod
07-09-2010, 01:43 PM
An absolute embarassment. Really and truly. I pity Cleveland sports fans. What the hell did they ever do to deserve what they have suffered for 50 years. Modell and now this guy. Oy vey.

Hey, thank God for 'em, though. As painful as being a Chiefs fan is, at least we're not from Cleveland.

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 02:19 PM
the florida marlins and tampa bay rays both come to mind. you don't give a shit about either of them when they're shitty (note, you call yourself a rays fan now that the marlins suck, and you were never a DEVIL RAYS fan), but you're all over their junk when it's convenient to you.

You can think what you want, but I don't really care. I grew up with the Marlins. Went to WS games 6&6 in 1997. Went to a lot of games as a kid. Still like to see them do well, but I now live in Tampa (moved 3 years ago) and they have a team here that I can support. The teams are in different conferences, and the Rays are a fun team to follow with good ownership (which the Marlins have never had).

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 02:42 PM
Heat's remaining cash going to Mike Miller ($25-30 mil/5 yrs), with maybe $2 mil to entice a PG or Big above vets min. about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/wallacesports/status/18134567411) via web

With about $52 mil in cap space after Beasley trade, LeBron, Wade and Bosh likely to take $15 mil each, with $7 mil left about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/wallacesports/status/18133896335) via web

.

kysirsoze
07-09-2010, 02:48 PM
The Gilbert letter is the most reposted thing on CP since "BERRY IS ON THE FUCKING PHONE!!!!"

Pestilence
07-09-2010, 02:50 PM
"BERRY IS ON THE FUCKING PHONE!!!!"

HE IS!??!?!??!

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 02:51 PM
Heat maneuvering could net Mike Miller, keep Haslem

By Ira Winderman South Florida Sun Sentinel

3:56 p.m. EDT, July 9, 2010

In a potentially significant turn of events, the Miami Heat is attempting to work out a sign-and-trade agreement with the Cleveland Cavaliers for free-agent forward LeBron James, who already has agreed to join the Heat

Should the Heat be able to pull off the maneuver, it could possibly give Heat President Pat Riley the flexibility to re-sign a remaining current Heat free agent, such, as Udonis Haslem, Dorell Wright or Quentin Richardson.

No matter the approach, James is locked into a Heat future.

In addition, such a maneuver would allow the Heat to complete its planned signing of Washington Wizards free-agent swingman Mike Miller.

In essence, the Heat is completing its end game.

The Heat is expected to sign Miller, the former University of Florida standout, to a contract in the five-year, $30 million range.

The Heat also is finishing off a sign-and-trade agreement with the Toronto Raptors that will allow recently acquired power forward Chris Bosh to receive a six-year free-agent contract instead of the maximum five-year contract an outside free agent can receive. The Raptors, in turn, will receive a package of draft picks from the Heat and a trade exception of roughly $16 million.

With a sign-and-trade with Cleveland, James also could receive a six-year package, instead of the maximum five-year deal an outside free agent could receive. The Cavaliers also would receive a $16 million trade exception.

Such an arrangement would allow Bosh, James and re-signed Heat free-agent guard Dwyane Wade to each receive similar six-year, $125 million contracts starting at the league maximum of $16.6 million for next season.

The Heat still is addressing the possibility of retaining Haslem, the free-agent power forward. However, under its current salary structure, the Heat only could offer Haslem a veteran-minimum 2010-11 contract of $1.1 million. The Heat then could make up the money to Haslem in 2011-12 and beyond.

However, if both Bosh and James are acquired by sign-and-trade agreements, then it could create wiggle room for a Haslem return, albeit not anywhere close to his $7.1 million 2009-10 salary.

Haslem has had contact with several teams, with the Utah Jazz emerging as a suitor in the wake of losing free-agent power forward Carlos Boozer to the Chicago Bulls.

The Orlando Sentinel also reporting that Orlando Magic free-agent forward Matt Barnes said he has been in contact with the Heat. Barnes earned $1.6 million last season, opting out of the $1.6 million he otherwise would have earned this coming season.

Ira Winderman can be reached at iwinderman@SunSentinel.com.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-update-s070910,0,4440538.story

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 03:04 PM
You can think what you want, but I don't really care. I grew up with the Marlins. Went to WS games 6&6 in 1997. Went to a lot of games as a kid. Still like to see them do well, but I now live in Tampa (moved 3 years ago) and they have a team here that I can support. The teams are in different conferences, and the Rays are a fun team to follow with good ownership (which the Marlins have never had).

that's the epitome of bandwagon.

CoMoChief
07-09-2010, 03:06 PM
Ray Allen
Kevin Garnett
Glen Davis
paul Pierce
Rondo
Rasheed

and that wasnt good enough to beat LA

the Heat still have a ways to go, but I think they have the ownership and front office to make it happen if they continue to think "outside the box"

Wade Bron and Bosh is a good start, but that is IT right now, nothing more than a good start.

Lebron is better than anyone BOS has
DWade is better than anyone BOS has
CBosh would prob be the 2nd best player on that BOS team.

You're talking about 3 starters on the Olympic team all playing together in MIA.

LA's days are numbered folks. And once Phil leaves and retires....Kobe won't be winning anymore while these younger kids run the show in South Beach.

Frazod
07-09-2010, 03:08 PM
that's the epitome of bandwagon.

Hopefully the next bandwagon he hops on will belong to the Miami Dolphins.

kstater
07-09-2010, 03:09 PM
Lebron is better than anyone BOS has
DWade is better than anyone BOS has
CBosh would prob be the 2nd best player on that BOS team.

You're talking about 3 starters on the Olympic team all playing together in MIA.

LA's days are numbered folks. And once Phil leaves and retires....Kobe won't be winning anymore while these younger kids run the show in South Beach.

Annnnd the kiss of death has arrived.

CoMoChief
07-09-2010, 03:10 PM
Annnnd the kiss of death has arrived.

You're late to the party I'm afraid.

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 03:13 PM
Hopefully the next bandwagon he hops on will belong to the Miami Dolphins.

I don't get how the front-runner is a chiefs fan in the first place. aside from being not awesome in the least, he pretty much doesn't root for a team unless they're top notch. tampa bay rays? he didn't give a fuck about them until they began winning. florida gators? yeah, he's all over that shit. miami heat? he didn't mention a fucking word about them until it looked like they'd get the fantastic three.

intriguing, no?

Frazod
07-09-2010, 03:17 PM
I don't get how the front-runner is a chiefs fan in the first place. aside from being not awesome in the least, he pretty much doesn't root for a team unless they're top notch. tampa bay rays? he didn't give a fuck about them until they began winning. florida gators? yeah, he's all over that shit. miami heat? he didn't mention a fucking word about them until it looked like they'd get the fantastic three.

intriguing, no?

No, not really. He's just a douche.

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 03:20 PM
oh yeah--he's a marlins fan who's not a marlins fan because they're not winning. hmmm...

KurtCobain
07-09-2010, 03:39 PM
James blows chunks and so does Bosh. I'll root for Wade, always have, but I can't stand the Heat as a team anymore.

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 03:41 PM
James blows chunks and so does Bosh. I'll root for Wade, always have, but I can't stand the Heat as a team anymore.

sir, I'll laugh and shake your hand. then make my way back home.

the Talking Can
07-09-2010, 03:46 PM
the new mecca?

Al Bundy
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
Best of luck to you and BandwagonHawk.

I saw that Bandwagoncawck is on the Heat bandwagon. I am completely annoyed by the Heat already.

Sanka
07-09-2010, 03:50 PM
This message is hidden because DaKCMan AP is on your ignore list (http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Thig Lyfe
07-09-2010, 04:37 PM
Fuck that shit. I'm hopping on the Thunder bandwagon. Durant, Westbrook, Aldrich... sheeeeeeit!

Mecca
07-09-2010, 04:43 PM
the new mecca?

Cause bandwagon fans sit around cheering for the Chiefs and Royals.

teedubya
07-09-2010, 04:54 PM
**** that shit. I'm hopping on the Thunder bandwagon. Durant, Westbrook, Aldrich... sheeeeeeit!

I think they will be entertaining.

I'd love for them to be in KC instead of OKC. dammit. :banghead:

kysirsoze
07-09-2010, 05:21 PM
Cause bandwagon fans sit around cheering for the Chiefs and Royals.

Unfortunately I would expect Chiefs and Royals fans to be the most consistent bandwagoners when it comes to other sports. Everybody wants to cheer for a winner sometimes. :shrug:

I got KU and that's about it. Hell, I find myself tempted to root for the Clippers. I may need help.

Pestilence
07-09-2010, 05:41 PM
Unfortunately I would expect Chiefs and Royals fans to be the most consistent bandwagoners when it comes to other sports. Everybody wants to cheer for a winner sometimes. :shrug:

I got KU and that's about it. Hell, I find myself tempted to root for the Clippers. I may need help.

I'm fucking slacking then.

Chiefs
Dodgers
Suns
Devils
Fighting Irish

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 05:50 PM
that's the epitome of bandwagon.

Nope, you're wrong. And bitter. And jealous. Sucks for you. :thumb:

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 05:55 PM
I don't get how the front-runner is a chiefs fan in the first place. aside from being not awesome in the least, he pretty much doesn't root for a team unless they're top notch. tampa bay rays? he didn't give a **** about them until they began winning. florida gators? yeah, he's all over that shit. miami heat? he didn't mention a ****ing word about them until it looked like they'd get the fantastic three.

intriguing, no?

:LOL:

You're so jealous, it's hilarious. I'm not much of a baseball fan, so sure I don't follow as closely when the teams suck. I've always followed the Heat through ups & downs. I've always followed Chiefs through ups & downs. You adding the Gators is hilarious. UF is my alma mater. I have 2 degrees from UF and I'm working on my 3rd. I've had season tickets to Florida football every year I've been a student (including the awful Ron Zook years), I went to tons of Florida basketball games, both before the Championship teams when they had Matt Walsh, Roberson, Dreyer, and David Lee and during the Championship run. Still watch all their games on TV. I went to UF baseball games. I went to UF volleyball games. I went to a couple UF women's soccer games. I'm a front runner for being a fan of my alma mater? LMAO

Don't hate just because my teams win championships (except the Chiefs).

Chocolate Hog
07-09-2010, 05:58 PM
I've called DaKc alot of things but he posts on a Chiefs board. I really doubt he's a bandwagon fan.

BWillie
07-09-2010, 06:00 PM
Don't really know why people are so upset that three guys put their ego's aside in sacrifice of championships. This is the best thing to happen to the NBA in a long time. It would have helped if they all could have went to NY or Chicago, but Miami loves their basketball.

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Nope, you're wrong. And bitter. And jealous. Sucks for you. :thumb:

what's there to be jealous of? that I'm not a faux-awesome douche?

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 06:25 PM
http://www.nba.com/heat/photos/520_wadeboshjames_100709.jpg

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 06:46 PM
You douches can leave and join the Lakers thread.
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DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 06:52 PM
And Bosh deal apparently sends Heat 2011 first-rounder plus pick owed from Toronto back to Raptors. College will become a rumor to Heat. 10 minutes ago via web

Heat putting together major package of picks for James sign-and-trade. Word inside league is Heat is finding a way to keep Udonis Haslem. 14 minutes ago via web

Wade+Bron+Bosh+Miller and keep Haslem? Me like. :D

Ebolapox
07-09-2010, 06:54 PM
holy crap, I just put it together.

they'll sign some white dude with a flat-top named john. then, they'll put wade, empty seat, bosh and lebron (IN SPECIFIC ORDER) next to him on the bench. and that (alone, mind you) will replace tebow in the hearts and minds of floridians everywhere.




get it? john 3 16

BossChief
07-09-2010, 06:56 PM
Lebron is better than anyone BOS has
DWade is better than anyone BOS has
CBosh would prob be the 2nd best player on that BOS team.

You're talking about 3 starters on the Olympic team all playing together in MIA.

LA's days are numbered folks. And once Phil leaves and retires....Kobe won't be winning anymore while these younger kids run the show in South Beach.
and right now, those three are ALL THEY HAVE.

Right now the Celtics and Lakers rosters are better than the Heats as well as being more well rounded. IMO

Like Ive said, they could be really special (like as good as the Lakers with Shaq, Kobe, Rice and company) if they add the role players they will NEED to win in the playoffs and have the coaches and chemistry to always stay humble and everyone being ok with getting less shots and opportunities to succeed on a personal level which will be new for all three of them.

time will tell

CaliforniaChief
07-09-2010, 07:09 PM
Are any of you watching their celebration? LMAO

Mr. Arrowhead
07-09-2010, 07:14 PM
You douches can leave and join the Lakers thread.
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ROFL so says the ultimate Bandwagon fan

CaliforniaChief
07-09-2010, 07:16 PM
"The 3 Kings" receiving keys to the cities of Miami Beach, Miami, AND the county.

The fans chanting "Beat LA."

Mr. Arrowhead
07-09-2010, 07:17 PM
"The 3 Kings" receiving keys to the cities of Miami Beach, Miami, AND the county.

The fans chanting "Beat LA."

ROFL wow

DaKCMan AP
07-09-2010, 07:18 PM
More word coming out that Heat has found a way to retain free-agent power forward Udonis Haslem. Heck, Riley probably still has cap space. 9 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/18160688357) via web

It just keeps getting better. :)

Sure-Oz
07-09-2010, 07:22 PM
You douches can leave and join the Lakers thread.
Posted via Mobile Device

LMAO this from a guy that probably wouldn't have been a fan if lebron didn't join the heat

Mr. Arrowhead
07-09-2010, 07:34 PM
ROFL Lebron said they would win 7 NBA titles

Buck
07-09-2010, 07:36 PM
You Idiot.

LAC stands for LA Chieffan.

Yours should have been titled the DAP Heat Show thread or something like that.

FAIL

Buck
07-09-2010, 07:37 PM
This is so ridiculous.

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 09:09 PM
ROFL so says the ultimate Bandwagon fan
Ultimate?
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ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 09:12 PM
LMAO this from a guy that probably wouldn't have been a fan if lebron didn't join the heat
So? Its not like KC has a team for me to root for.
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KCBOSS1
07-09-2010, 09:28 PM
Don't really know why people are so upset that three guys put their ego's aside in sacrifice of championships. This is the best thing to happen to the NBA in a long time. It would have helped if they all could have went to NY or Chicago, but Miami loves their basketball.

Are you serious? Put their egos aside? LeBron took a dump on his home state. It's not that they decided to play together, it's the way they walked it all out. The most rediculous ego display that I've seen in professional sports that I can think of.

Buck
07-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Don't really know why people are so upset that three guys put their ego's aside in sacrifice of championships. This is the best thing to happen to the NBA in a long time. It would have helped if they all could have went to NY or Chicago, but Miami loves their basketball.

[ ] Put Ego Aside
[x] Have one hour special on ESPN after weeks of speculation to announce which team gets to have you

boogblaster
07-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Who cares .. its b-ball ...............

Sure-Oz
07-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Don't really know why people are so upset that three guys put their ego's aside in sacrifice of championships. This is the best thing to happen to the NBA in a long time. It would have helped if they all could have went to NY or Chicago, but Miami loves their basketball.

LMAO

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

Sure-Oz
07-09-2010, 09:35 PM
Are you serious? Put their egos aside? LeBron took a dump on his home state. It's not that they decided to play together, it's the way they walked it all out. The most rediculous ego display that I've seen in professional sports that I can think of.

It really wouldn't be this bad if it wasn't for this whole charade. If he just announced it on his twitter or we actually just heard an update the rage wouldnt be this bad. Period. Good for Miami and their fans, they have every reason to be excited and most fans probably have found a new team to hate just cause of lebrons ego.

KCBOSS1
07-09-2010, 09:40 PM
It really wouldn't be this bad if it wasn't for this whole charade. If he just announced it on his twitter or we actually just heard an update the rage wouldnt be this bad. Period. Good for Miami and their fans, they have every reason to be excited and most fans probably have found a new team to hate just cause of lebrons ego.

I agree about it being good for Miami and Miami fans.
But if I was in the front office or a coach at Miami, I would be like "Guys, can we tone this down a little? We're already gonna have a bullseye on us. Now you've promised 7 championships, LeBron....come on please." Seriously, they just complicated all of their road trips for the next year and are going to be facing fan hate like never before.

Sure-Oz
07-09-2010, 09:41 PM
I agree about it being good for Miami and Miami fans.
But if I was in the front office or a coach at Miami, I would be like "Guys, can we tone this down a little? We're already gonna have a bullseye on us. Now you've promised 7 championships, LeBron....come on please." Seriously, they just complicated all of their road trips for the next year and are going to be facing fan hate like never before.

I agree, they could've gone about it with whippin out their wangs and tellin the whole world who has the bigger schlong. that said the rest of the nba will be gunning for them and id think most fanbases as well. Can't wait to see lebrons first game in cleveland.

KCBOSS1
07-09-2010, 09:47 PM
I saw him play in Cleveland a few years ago. he was a freak of nature...impressive live. That city is in a desperate mode financially and they rally around the Cavs, Browns and Indians hard core. It's all they got. It was contagious while I was working there.

KCBOSS1
07-09-2010, 09:48 PM
If I was him, I would call in sick for that series.

Param
07-09-2010, 10:06 PM
and right now, those three are ALL THEY HAVE.

Right now the Celtics and Lakers rosters are better than the Heats as well as being more well rounded. IMO

Like Ive said, they could be really special (like as good as the Lakers with Shaq, Kobe, Rice and company) if they add the role players they will NEED to win in the playoffs and have the coaches and chemistry to always stay humble and everyone being ok with getting less shots and opportunities to succeed on a personal level which will be new for all three of them.

time will tell

This is so fucking stupid. Which would you rather have today? The 3 heat players or the Celtics roster. It's a simple question.

Param
07-09-2010, 10:07 PM
I agree about it being good for Miami and Miami fans.
But if I was in the front office or a coach at Miami, I would be like "Guys, can we tone this down a little? We're already gonna have a bullseye on us. Now you've promised 7 championships, LeBron....come on please." Seriously, they just complicated all of their road trips for the next year and are going to be facing fan hate like never before.

Way to be a killjoy.

Param
07-09-2010, 10:09 PM
I take it back, looks like Bosh is rocking #00 according to nba.com jersey sale.

back to my original post, it's #1 for Bosh.

Param
07-09-2010, 10:11 PM
LA's days are numbered folks. And once Phil leaves and retires....Kobe won't be winning anymore while these younger kids run the show in South Beach.

Yep

Kobe isn't getting younger. This new young trio in south beach is going to win multiple championships.

Von Dumbass
07-09-2010, 10:22 PM
I am on the Heat bandwagon because of LeBron. I would be a fan of any team that had Kobe, LeBron, or Durant on them.

Param
07-09-2010, 10:53 PM
I am on the Heat bandwagon because of LeBron.

Nothing wrong with that, welcome to the team.

ArrowheadHawk
07-09-2010, 10:59 PM
Welcome knowmo. Bandwagons are fun.
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Von Dumbass
07-10-2010, 12:42 AM
I was on the Jordan bandwagon back in the 90's and again when he went to the Wizards. I won't be upset if they don't win like I would the Broncos. I just like watching Kobe, Durant, and LeBron play.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 01:36 AM
Heat maneuvering opens door for Udonis Haslem, with Mike Miller deal close

By Ira Winderman South Florida Sun Sentinel

1:48 a.m. EDT, July 10, 2010

MIAMI —
Udonis Haslem apparently will not be left out of the party.

The Miami Heat mainstay who seemingly was about to be left out of the franchise's return to its heyday, appears to be on the verge of a free-agent return after some late maneuvering by Heat President Pat Riley.

In a significant turn of events, the Heat completed a sign-and-trade agreement Friday night with the Cleveland Cavaliers for free-agent forward LeBron James, who already had agreed to join the Heat,

The maneuver offered Riley the flexibility to re-sign Haslem. An NBA source said Friday the expectation was Haslem would now return to the Heat.

"We're working on his situation," agent Henry Thomas told the Sun Sentinel Friday night by email.

The Heat also is has been involved in plans to add Washington Wizards free-agent swingman Mike Miller, with that deal expected to be finalized early next week. The Heat has been talking with the former University of Florida standout about a contract in the five-year, $27 million range.

In essence, the Heat is completing its end game.

Re-signed Heat guard Dwyane Wade said he is hopeful of Haslem remaining.

"He's been a part of this with me for seven years," Wade said, having entered the league along with Haslem in 2003. "I feel like we built basketball in this city together. He has a decision to make.

"We want Udonis back and we're going to do everything we can to make sure Udonis stays home."

Riley said he is working to make that happen.

"We're very, very active in conversations with him," Riley said. "I have a very good feeling that we're going to be able to do something.

"I think there might be some good news at the beginning of the week with U.D."

Asked of Riley's ability to rebuild the roster, Wade smiled.

"He's already in the Hall of Fame. What more you want?" he said with a grin. "He looked at me eye to eye and told me we're going to do it."

Owner Micky Arison said the team had several well-known players eager to join the team's revitalized mix.

The Heat also finished off a sign-and-trade agreement Friday with the Toronto Raptors that allowed it to offer free-agent power forward Chris Bosh a six-year free-agent contract instead of the maximum five-year contract an outside free agent can receive. The Raptors, in turn, will receive the Heat's 2011 first-round pick and the future pick that Toronto owed to the Heat.

It was learned Friday that James, Wade and Bosh took significantly less than the maximum allowable $16.6 million 2010-11 starting salary on their new contracts, each now starting in the $14.5 million range, shaving about $15 million off their maximum totals.

Also, each can terminate their six-year contracts after four seasons, with a right to opt out after the fifth. The new collective-bargaining agreement, however, could make the financial sting too punitive to exit the deals early.

"What we signed today for is not important," James said. "What is important is we all sacrificed money.

"We didn't take the max deals."

Riley said the trade of 2008 No. 2 overall draft pick Michael Beasley to the Minnesota Timberwolves has not been finalized, but would be shortly.

"With this particular move," Riley said of adding James and Bosh and re-signing Wade, "we felt that in order to bring in other complementary players, we had to go in that direction."

Riley also reiterated he would not return to coach the Heat.

"Erik Spoelstra is coach of this team and he's going to coach this team," Riley said.

With the sign-and-trade with Cleveland, James also became eligible to receive a six-year package, instead of the maximum five-year deal an outside free agent could receive. The Cavaliers received a package two first-round picks and two second-round picks from the Heat, as well as the right to swap first-round picks in 2012.

With those signings completed, the Heat then turned its attention to retaining Haslem. The Heat entered Friday able to only offer Haslem a veteran-minimum 2010-11 contract of $1.1 million. The Heat then could have made up the money to Haslem in 2011-12 and beyond.

However, with Bosh and James acquired at lower-than-expected starting salaries, wiggle room was created for a Haslem return.

"We've got other teammates, as well," Wade said, hinting of a done Haslem deal by mentioning the forward's ability to hit timely shots. "There's other guys on that basketball court that can hit that shot."

Haslem has had contact with several teams, with the Utah Jazz emerging as a suitor in the wake of losing free-agent power forward Carlos Boozer to the Chicago Bulls.

The Orlando Sentinel is reporting that Orlando Magic free-agent forward Matt Barnes said he has been in contact with the Heat. Barnes earned $1.6 million last season, opting out of the $1.6 million he otherwise would have earned this coming season.

Other names linked to the Heat are free-agent guards Jason Williams and Mike James, and Cavaliers free-agent center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, who apparently is looking at as many as six suitors, unlikely to return to the LeBron-less Cavaliers.

Riley also reportedly has a Saturday meeting scheduled with Los Angeles Lakers point guard Derek Fisher, although the finances would not appear to work. It is, however, a sign of league-wide interest in the Heat's new high-powered trio.

Friday's welcome rally included a "Beat L.A.!" chant.

"L.A. is the team that I think every team in the NBA wants to get to that point," James said. "But it's not about just beating L.A.

"It's a process, starting from training camp."

No matter the ultimate composition of the roster, Wade appreciates something special is in place.

"Every place is going to sell out when we come on the road," he said. "So they can thank us now."

James said it will be about more than just a big three.

"This is about the whole team," James said. "It's about the whole organization."

Ira Winderman can be reached at iwinderman@SunSentinel.com.

:)

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 11:02 AM
LBJ, Bosh, Wade Take Less Money, Hold ETO For 2014

Jul 10, 2010 5:48 AM EST

LeBron James and Chris Bosh signed matching six-year, $110.1 million contracts, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

Dwyane Wade signed for six years and $107.5 million, according to the sources.

Sources told ESPN.com's Chad Ford that James and Bosh are scheduled to make $14.5 million and Wade $14 million in 2010-11.

Each player took $15 million less over the life of the contract to sign with Miami, but they have an opt out after the fourth year to all potentially become free agents in 2014.

The Heat sent two future first-round and two second-round picks to the Cavaliers for James, while packaging two first-round picks to the Raptors for Bosh.

Via ESPN

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68038/20100710/lbj_bosh_wade_take_less_money_hold_eto_for_2014/#ixzz0tIdrgK6A
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DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 11:03 AM
Source Speculates Riley Will Return As Coach

League sources have told the New York Daily News that Pat Riley will at some point replace Erik Spoelstra as head coach of the Heat.

"Pat won't come back for just Wade and Bosh, because that's not a sure thing in Pat's mind," said one Eastern Conference coach before Miami officially landed LeBron James.

"But with LeBron and those two, that's a sure thing for Pat. He will come back if they get LeBron."

Via Mitch Lawrence/New York Daily News

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68045/20100710/source_speculates_riley_will_return_as_coach/#ixzz0tIedklXq


We'll see.. love Riles, but don't see it happening.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 11:22 AM
This is so fucking stupid. Which would you rather have today? The 3 heat players or the Celtics roster. It's a simple question.
If we are talking about what team I would rather have for the upcoming season strictly, I would rather have:

Ray Allen
Tony Allen
Kevin Garnett
Rondo
Jermaine Oneil
Big Baby
Paul Pierce
Rasheed Wallace
and the rest

over

James
Wade
Bosh
and the rest

and I would surely rather have the Lakers roster from last year over those three. Again, if we are just talking for the upcoming season.

That can change given the role players they will likely add and it may effect my opinion, but at this point that hasnt happened yet.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 11:23 AM
You know what would be SICK?

If they were gonna be coached by Phil Jackson and his system.

Epic Fail 007
07-10-2010, 11:49 AM
LEBRONS A COWARD,A FAKE NAMES ALONE DON`T WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS ,TEAMS DO AND THE HEAT WILL NEVER WIN IT BECAUSE EVERYNIGHT UR GOING TO HAVE A CRY BABY WHINING HE DID NOT GET THE BALL ENOUGH,HOPE LEBRON BREAKS BOTH KNEES AND NEVER PLAYS AGAIN

RJ
07-10-2010, 12:10 PM
I thought Lebron was a free agent? Why does Miami have to give up picks? I don't follow the NBA much.


http://www.cbssports.com/print/nba/story/13625739/cavs-work-out-deal-with-heat-will-get-picks-for-lebron?tag=button-bar;btn-print

Cavs work out deal with Heat, will get picks for LeBron
July 10, 2010
CBSSports.com wire reports

CLEVELAND -- The Cavaliers made sure they got something back for LeBron James.

After losing the superstar to Miami, the Cavs worked out a deal with the Heat, acquiring two future first-round draft picks and two second-round picks.

Cleveland gets two first rounders starting in 2013 and continuing through 2017, and the Heat's 2012 second-round pick from New Orleans and a future second-round pick Miami acquired from Oklahoma City.

The Cavs also have the right to swap first-round picks with the Heat in 2012. Cleveland also picked up a trade exception that could be worth up to $16 million.

"This deal provides us with multiple key assets and additional flexibility as we move forward for both the short term and beyond," Cavaliers general manager Chris Grant said in a release.

It didn't appear the Cavs would do a deal with Miami involving James, especially after Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert lambasted the MVP in the hours after he announced he was leaving.

Sure-Oz
07-10-2010, 12:22 PM
I have no idea but the cavs are set then

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 12:30 PM
I thought Lebron was a free agent? Why does Miami have to give up picks? I don't follow the NBA much.

The Cavs own(ed) his Bird rights. If he signed outright with Miami they could only sign him for a maximum of 5 years. By completing a sign-and-trade they signed James for 6 years and obtained more cap flexibility which will allow them to sign Mike Miller & Udonis Haslem.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 12:31 PM
Just got call that Pat Riley and Micky Arison meeting at downtown hotel with Lakers PG D. Fisher. Will he sign? 41 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/wallacesports/status/18212011082) via mobile web (http://mobile.twitter.com/)

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RJ
07-10-2010, 12:59 PM
The Cavs own(ed) his Bird rights. If he signed outright with Miami they could only sign him for a maximum of 5 years. By completing a sign-and-trade they signed James for 6 years and obtained more cap flexibility which will allow them to sign Mike Miller & Udonis Haslem.


They gave up 4 picks to get an extra year and some cap room? Wow, that is some kind of serious commitment to winning now.

Param
07-10-2010, 01:02 PM
heard this on the radio the other day lol

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Param
07-10-2010, 01:02 PM
They gave up 4 picks to get an extra year and some cap room? Wow, that is some kind of serious commitment to winning now.

It's all about today!

CaliforniaChief
07-10-2010, 01:05 PM
No question, losing Fisher to the Heat would be a blow to the gut. I still think it's leverage for him to squeeze a few more dollars out of the Lakers. But I could be wrong.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 01:10 PM
heard this on the radio the other day lol

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I was just about to post this. Hilarious! LMAO

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 01:14 PM
They gave up 4 picks to get an extra year and some cap room? Wow, that is some kind of serious commitment to winning now.

Riley's not a big fan of the draft. Since he came to the Heat in 1995 really the only big successes have been Caron Butler & DWade along with some decent finds in the 2nd round (Eddie House, Rasual Butler).

Param
07-10-2010, 01:15 PM
You know what would be SICK?

If they were gonna be coached by Phil Jackson and his system.

No, he's got his team.

Param
07-10-2010, 01:17 PM
If we are talking about what team I would rather have for the upcoming season strictly, I would rather have:

Ray Allen
Tony Allen
Kevin Garnett
Rondo
Jermaine Oneil
Big Baby
Paul Pierce
Rasheed Wallace
and the rest

over

James
Wade
Bosh
and the rest

and I would surely rather have the Lakers roster from last year over those three. Again, if we are just talking for the upcoming season.

That can change given the role players they will likely add and it may effect my opinion, but at this point that hasnt happened yet.

TODAY!!!!!! Not the upcoming season, not two months from now, not to years from now, today!

adios Lakers & Celtics. Your runs are done!

Param
07-10-2010, 01:20 PM
I was just about to post this. Hilarious! LMAO

Stu gots did one as well, but this one was funnier.

"our half full sports bars exploded in joy"

:LOL::LOL::LOL:

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 01:22 PM
Also, do not rule out a return by James Jones. Those wheels already have been set in motion. Minimum roster not looking so minimal. 40 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/18214989385) via web

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Fruit Ninja
07-10-2010, 01:26 PM
TODAY!!!!!! Not the upcoming season, not two months from now, not to years from now, today!

adios Lakers & Celtics. Your runs are done!

lol. Celtics maybe, but not the Lakers. They will be there ready. They got a deep ass team that will get deeper by the time the offseason is over. Bring it.

-King-
07-10-2010, 01:30 PM
Man these bandwagon fans act like they've been following the heat from the start.


Put it like this: the lakers have more titles than the heat have playoff appearances.
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DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 01:32 PM
Man these bandwagon fans act like they've been following the heat from the start.

I have been. Grew up in South Fla. Went to games at the old Miami Arena & the new AAA.

Put it like this: the lakers have more titles than the heat have playoff appearances.
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So?

Param
07-10-2010, 01:34 PM
.

players are coming, players are coming!

:thumb:

Param
07-10-2010, 01:39 PM
Man these bandwagon fans act like they've been following the heat from the start.


Put it like this: the lakers have more titles than the heat have playoff appearances.
Posted via Mobile Device

gotta suck knowing your Lakers are done now.

Chocolate Hog
07-10-2010, 01:52 PM
gotta suck knowing your Lakers are done now.

lolwut?

Fruit Ninja
07-10-2010, 01:58 PM
gotta suck knowing your Lakers are done now.

lol
Blake/Fisher(if he resigns. He will)
Kobe/Sasha/Brown
Artest/Walton
Pau/Odom
Bynum/Pau and we will sign someone else.

We are still in talks with a few other players as well.

I will take that against the "big 3" anyfucking day.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 02:08 PM
Just confirmed that Juwan Howard has reached out to the Heat, and, yes, it is being considered as a viable option. This is getting insane. 21 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/18218977262) via web

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BWillie
07-10-2010, 02:25 PM
I don't understand why people think the Heat won't be the favorite in the East next year. The Heat have 3 out of the top 8 players in the league on one frickin' team. No other team can say that. In fact, no other team can say they have two, even though the Lakers and Celtics are close, and look who was in the finals last year.

BWillie
07-10-2010, 02:32 PM
[ ] Put Ego Aside
[x] Have one hour special on ESPN after weeks of speculation to announce which team gets to have you

And the proceeds went to f*cking charity. Jesus Christ.

Also, all three guys signed for less money for longer deals than they could have at some other teams in attempts to have some money to sign role players. You guys are be awful harsh here.

CaliforniaChief
07-10-2010, 02:40 PM
Le Bron met Derek Fisher at the airport today, according to sources. Word on the street is that they had a great meeting. James showed off his multiple keys, while Fisher showed James his 5 rings.

-King-
07-10-2010, 02:52 PM
And the proceeds went to f*cking charity. Jesus Christ.

Also, all three guys signed for less money for longer deals than they could have at some other teams in attempts to have some money to sign role players. You guys are be awful harsh here.

James didnt give shit to charity. The money given to charity was from the sponsors.
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Reaper16
07-10-2010, 02:53 PM
I don't think the Heat make the finals next season. I'm not even sure that they win their division.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 02:56 PM
And the proceeds went to f*cking charity. Jesus Christ.

Also, all three guys signed for less money for longer deals than they could have at some other teams in attempts to have some money to sign role players. You guys are be awful harsh here.


Guy on the radio said partial proceeds went to charity; didn't say what percentage.
LeBron is an uneducated self centered tool.

BWillie
07-10-2010, 02:58 PM
James didnt give shit to charity. The money given to charity was from the sponsors.
Posted via Mobile Device

Whats the difference? His people set that up and said that all money made from it will go to charity.

This is the day and age that we live in. Expect more and more of these things in the future. Media hype just adds to the experience. If I was the guys agent, I would have told him to do the exact same thing.

BWillie
07-10-2010, 02:59 PM
I don't think the Heat make the finals next season. I'm not even sure that they win their division.

So nobody wants to take my bet that the Heat will be in the NBA Finals next year? I'll bet 500K casino cash.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 03:00 PM
Whats the difference? His people set that up and said that all money made from it will go to charity.

This is the day and age that we live in. Expect more and more of these things in the future. Media hype just adds to the experience. If I was the guys agent, I would have told him to do the exact same thing.

IMHO the lead balloon that was the Lebron tv event will discourage future repeat performances.

BWillie
07-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Guy on the radio said partial proceeds went to charity; didn't say what percentage.
LeBron is an uneducated self centered tool.

It was almost all of it, if not all of it went to charity actually.

Fruit Ninja
07-10-2010, 03:17 PM
I dont think Bosh is even a top 10 player.

Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
D. Williams
C. Paul
Pau Gasol
D. Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk
Hell, maybe even Tim Duncan still.
Id also take Tyreke Evans over Bosh. Evans is going to be a ****ing beast.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 03:40 PM
It was almost all of it, if not all of it went to charity actually.

Have you seen the break down of the numbers or are you just speculating? Not trying to pin you down, I'm curious as to how much the B&G club benefitted.
My children's school holds a sporting goods drive every year for the Phoenix B&G club; they are a very worthy organization IMHO and I hope the chapter that received the proceeds got all or damn near all of them.

Reaper16
07-10-2010, 03:41 PM
So nobody wants to take my bet that the Heat will be in the NBA Finals next year? I'll bet 500K casino cash.
I don't have 500K casino cash. or else I'd take your bet.

I'd bet all my casino cash at the time the Eastern Conference champion is decided next season, though.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 03:42 PM
I dont think Bosh is even a top 10 player.

Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
D. Williams
C. Paul
Pau Gasol
D. Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk
Hell, maybe even Tim Duncan still.
Id also take Tyreke Evans over Bosh. Evans is going to be a ****ing beast.

I respect Duncan immensely but IMHO after seeing him in the playoffs this year Timmy D. is past his prime and is no longer a top 10 player. Mad props to him though, dude won consistently and with class ( and a lot of crying and whining I'll admit).

Miles
07-10-2010, 03:43 PM
I dont think Bosh is even a top 10 player.

Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
D. Williams
C. Paul
Pau Gasol
D. Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk
Hell, maybe even Tim Duncan still.
Id also take Tyreke Evans over Bosh. Evans is going to be a ****ing beast.

Nash is still up there in that mix as well.


You can argue that he is a top 10 player since we still haven't seen what he can do on a good team but I think he is more in the 10-15 range. Not like that is a bad thing but throwing around the term superstar in front of his name is dubious at best.

Miles
07-10-2010, 03:49 PM
Have you seen the break down of the numbers or are you just speculating? Not trying to pin you down, I'm curious as to how much the B&G club benefitted.
My children's school holds a sporting goods drive every year for the Phoenix B&G club; they are a very worthy organization IMHO and I hope the chapter that received the proceeds got all or damn near all of them.

I heard on ESPN Radio that it was donated to the organization nationally and they made it sound like it was all of the proceeds. Maybe some expenses were taken off the top but if it was a higher cut then it was an even further sketchy claim of using charity to half assed attempt to mask self promotion.

Agreed on the take that they are a very good organization which I have seen first hand as well.

DBOSHO
07-10-2010, 03:50 PM
I dont think Bosh is even a top 10 player.

Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
D. Williams
C. Paul
Pau Gasol
D. Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk
Hell, maybe even Tim Duncan still.
Id also take Tyreke Evans over Bosh. Evans is going to be a ****ing beast.


you forgot matt barnes

Saulbadguy
07-10-2010, 03:51 PM
So nobody wants to take my bet that the Heat will be in the NBA Finals next year? I'll bet 500K casino cash.

I'll take it. I have a metric fuck ton of Casino cash that I don't care about/use.

L.A. Chieffan
07-10-2010, 04:24 PM
I dont think Bosh is even a top 10 player.

Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
D. Williams
C. Paul
Pau Gasol
D. Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk
Hell, maybe even Tim Duncan still.
Id also take Tyreke Evans over Bosh. Evans is going to be a ****ing beast.

dont forget gerald wallace, amare, david lee, josh smith, roy, granger...

all guys id probably take over bosh

KCChiefsFan88
07-10-2010, 04:26 PM
I don't understand why people think the Heat won't be the favorite in the East next year. The Heat have 3 out of the top 8 players in the league on one frickin' team. No other team can say that. In fact, no other team can say they have two, even though the Lakers and Celtics are close, and look who was in the finals last year.

The Heat have 3 great players and what else? Surrounding cast and role players have a huge part in winning a championship (see the Lakers this year getting key non-Kobe contributions from guys like Artest and Fisher and see Boston getting key contributions from guys like Big Baby and Tony Allen).

I have been a Heat season ticket holder since '92... they have been my team since the Harold Miner/Rony Seikaly/Glen Rice days... but a dose of reality needs to be applied when looking at the Heat's championship prospects for next season.

Reaper16
07-10-2010, 04:29 PM
So nobody wants to take my bet that the Heat will be in the NBA Finals next year? I'll bet 500K casino cash.

I don't have 500K casino cash. or else I'd take your bet.

I'd bet all my casino cash at the time the Eastern Conference champion is decided next season, though.

Correction: I can now put 500k on the line. We're on, then?

Correction: I had sex with Katie.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 04:34 PM
The Heat have 3 great players and what else? Surrounding cast and role players have a huge part in winning a championship (see the Lakers this year getting key non-Kobe contributions from guys like Artest and Fisher and see Boston getting key contributions from guys like Big Baby and Tony Allen).

I have been a Heat season ticket holder since '92... they have been my team since the Harold Miner/Rony Seikaly/Glen Rice days... but a dose of reality needs to be applied when looking at the Heat's championship prospects for next season.

Heat season tix since 92? Seikaly and Harold Miner?
I hereby dub thee Planet Resident Miami Heat Expert.

I heard LeBatard say before the LB decision that if LeBron chooses the Heat the Miami fans don't deserve it and neither do the Cleveland fans, alluding to the fact that the Heat fans were on the whole much less passionate and dedicated than the Cleveland fans.
What do you think about that?

-King-
07-10-2010, 04:47 PM
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Miles
07-10-2010, 04:53 PM
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The West thing is so fucking lame. Hard to believe there are some out there that still believe that shit.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 04:54 PM
The Heat have 3 great players and what else?

So far (expected at least) Mike Miller, Udonis Haslem and Mario Chalmers. The rest will be filled out over the coming weeks.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 04:55 PM
The West thing is so ****ing lame. Hard to believe there are some out there that still believe that shit.

Call me uninformed but I don't get it. Your mom is heading West?

Reaper16
07-10-2010, 04:57 PM
Call me uninformed but I don't get it. Your mom is heading West?
There has been a lot of brouhaha over LeBron's mom and Delonte West (a former teammate on the Cavs) being romantically involved.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 04:57 PM
Call me uninformed but I don't get it. Your mom is heading West?

There were rumors/reports that Delonte West fucked LeBron's mom.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 05:00 PM
There has been a lot of brouhaha over LeBron's mom and Delonte West (a former teammate on the Cavs) being romantically involved.

There were rumors/reports that Delonte West ****ed LeBron's mom.

Thanks guys. LMAO Okay now that t-shirt is funny.

Miles
07-10-2010, 05:06 PM
There were rumors/reports that Delonte West fucked LeBron's mom.

Basically of the level of some random guy made it up and posted it on his blog and sadly many reporters ran with it. Cowherd even bit hard on it this past week after is had long been dismissed.

Miles
07-10-2010, 05:08 PM
Mike Miller and Haslem are now apparently on board so the team is not without role players. Still badly need some form of a center though.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Basically of the level of some random guy made it up and posted it on his blog and sadly many reporters ran with it. Cowherd even bit hard on it this past week after is had long been dismissed.

So West did Lebron's mom and now there is a cover up? Is that what you are saying? I wonder if Lebron is ok with his mom getting banged by guys he works with?

Miles
07-10-2010, 05:17 PM
So West did Lebron's mom and now there is a cover up? Is that what you are saying?

Yeah pretty much that but the complete opposite.

The Bad Guy
07-10-2010, 05:39 PM
gotta suck knowing your Lakers are done now.

I'm glad you have crowned them already. It will make it even more sweet when the Heat are knocked on their asses this year.

Let me know where the rebounding is coming from, and who is guarding the big men you are going to face in the league.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 05:50 PM
I'm glad you have crowned them already. It will make it even more sweet when the Heat are knocked on their asses this year.

Let me know where the rebounding is coming from, and who is guarding the big men you are going to face in the league.

I agree with this but also wonder who is going to gaurd Miami's big 3? At least one of them is going to go for 40 every game, maybe more than one of them.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 05:54 PM
Cavs free agent center Zydrunas Ilgauskas tells Miami Herald he's "looking into option" of joining buddy LeBron in Miami, likeky at vet min. 9 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/wallacesports/status/18230525882) via mobile web (http://mobile.twitter.com/)

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Reaper16
07-10-2010, 05:57 PM
Z doesn't look like much when compared to Howard or the Celtic's big-man rotation.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:00 PM
Z doesn't look like much when compared to Howard or the Celtic's big-man rotation.

He'd be a nice piece on the bench.

vailpass
07-10-2010, 06:01 PM
Z doesn't look like much when compared to Howard or the Celtic's big-man rotation.

True but do they need much more than a Cartwright or a Weddington type big man?

Miles
07-10-2010, 06:01 PM
Z doesn't look like much compared to any center. He still can score with the jumper but that team really needs a scrappy garbage man a center and Z is the opposite of that.

Reaper16
07-10-2010, 06:02 PM
True but do they need much more than a Cartwright or a Weddington type big man?
They'd be best off with a defense-first Center. They really don't need points from that position but they do need to defend that position.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:03 PM
Z doesn't look like much compared to any center. He still can score with the jumper but that team really needs a scrappy garbage man a center and Z is the opposite of that.

A bench with Z @ C and Haslem @ PF works. Z would stretch the D and Haslem is the definition of scrappy. True we need to find a big to start. There's been talk of Kwame Brown. He can at least be a big and does not need to score. Bringing back Joel Anthony is another option. We'll see who Riley targets.

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:05 PM
True but do they need much more than a Cartwright or a Weddington type big man?

wasnt it wennington?
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Miles
07-10-2010, 06:09 PM
A bench with Z @ C and Haslem @ PF works. Z would stretch the D and Haslem is the definition of scrappy. True we need to find a big to start. There's been talk of Kwame Brown. He can at least be a big and does not need to score. Bringing back Joel Anthony is another option. We'll see who Riley targets.

So who is the starting center? And no it isn't Bosh. Kwame doesn't work either.

Agreed on Haslem being a nice bench/energy PF.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:14 PM
So who is the starting center? And no it isn't Bosh. Kwame doesn't work either.

Agreed on Haslem being a nice bench/energy PF.

TBD

Joel Anthony is a possibility. In 16 starts last season he averaged 5pts, 5 boards and 2 blocks. Bosh crashes boards already (averages 11rpg).

Some suggest Shaq. I'm not a big fan of that due to the way he acted the last time he was here & when he left. He's an ass and has an ego bigger than Wade/Bron/Bosh combined. But, whatever..

We'll see who Riles gets.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:14 PM
I agree with this but also wonder who is going to gaurd Miami's big 3? At least one of them is going to go for 40 every game, maybe more than one of them.

If they do get to the finals (which I doubt)

Ron Artest guards Lebron
Kobe locks Wade down
Gasol handles Bosh

I dont really see a problem there, to be honest, from a Lakers point of view. We would OWN the boards and would create multiple matchup problems with them, thus not allowing them to run.

After that, the rest of the Lakers have carte blanche

Bynum
Odom
Sasha
thats not counting whoever else we add to the puzzle as Im sure Mitch is looking for the countershot

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:18 PM
If they do get to the finals (which I doubt)

Ron Artest guards Lebron
Kobe locks Wade down
Gasol handles Bosh

I dont really see a problem there, to be honest, from a Lakers point of view. We would OWN the boards and would create multiple matchup problems with them, thus not allowing them to run.

After that, the rest of the Lakers have carte blanche

Bynum
Odom
Sasha
thats not counting whoever else we add to the puzzle as Im sure Mitch is looking for the countershot

lol, lebron and wade will get theirs.
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BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:19 PM
Miamis best case scenario IMO is to add Fisher, Miller (Mike and Brad), Shaq and another big man.

If they do something on that level, we'll talk...till then STFU bandwagon bitches (not you of course Mr Awesome)

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:22 PM
If they do get to the finals (which I doubt)

Ron Artest guards Lebron
Kobe locks Wade down
Gasol handles Bosh

I dont really see a problem there, to be honest

:bong:

Last year, each on separate teams:

Wade vs LAL - 26.5ppg, 6.5rpg, 11.5apg (1-1 record)
Bron vs LAL - 31.5ppg, 4.5rpg, 9apg (2-0 record)
Bosh vs LAL - 20ppg, 10rpg, 3apg (1-1 record)

But Kobe, Artest, Gasol will shut them down without a problem. LMAO

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:23 PM
Miamis best case scenario IMO is to add Fisher, Miller (Mike and Brad), Shaq and another big man.

If they do something on that level, we'll talk...till then STFU bandwagon bitches (not you of course Mr Awesome)

Heat definitely need to get some big men for D & rebounds, but I trust Riley will figure it all out. He's gotten everything he's wanted so far this offseason.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:23 PM
lol, lebron and wade will get theirs.
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Of course they will, but you are missing the meat of this. They will be limited by the shear amount of shots available in any given game and will be shooting lower percentages against great defenders and right now the role players they have cant stand up to the ones that the better teams have. Most notably the Lakers role players. That is EASILY where the difference lies the deeper you get into the playoffs.

Fruit Ninja
07-10-2010, 06:27 PM
:bong:

Last year, each on separate teams:

Wade vs LAL - 26.5ppg, 6.5rpg, 11.5apg (1-1 record)
Bron vs LAL - 31.5ppg, 4.5rpg, 9apg (2-0 record)
Bosh vs LAL - 20ppg, 10rpg, 3apg (1-1 record)

But Kobe, Artest, Gasol will shut them down without a problem. LMAO

but what you are forgetting is that, all 3 of them will never ever average what you threw out. THey all played on different teams and not the same team.

Them stats you threw out dont mean shit now. Lakers still have a number 1 and he's the offense. No one on the Lakers has to scale down their game AT ALL.

Anyways, heat hasnt done shit yet. Lakers are the champs and will be there again come 2011.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:28 PM
:bong:

Last year, each on separate teams:

Wade vs LAL - 26.5ppg, 6.5rpg, 11.5apg (1-1 record)
Bron vs LAL - 31.5ppg, 4.5rpg, 9apg (2-0 record)
Bosh vs LAL - 20ppg, 10rpg, 3apg (1-1 record)

But Kobe, Artest, Gasol will shut them down without a problem. LMAO
reading comprehension problem much Mr Awesome?

Im saying that the Lakers have fits against those three (not at all that they will "shut them down") and the difference maker is the production from the role players.

Also, you can take those stats and throw that garbage to someone that doesnt understand that there is only one ball, those stats were achieved by each player being the #1 option on their respective team.

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:30 PM
Of course they will, but you are missing the meat of this. They will be limited by the shear amount of shots available in any given game and will be shooting lower percentages against great defenders and right now the role players they have cant stand up to the ones that the better teams have. Most notably the Lakers role players. That is EASILY where the difference lies the deeper you get into the playoffs.

sheer.



and da has a post for you.
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DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:30 PM
but what you are forgetting is that, all 3 of them will never ever average what you threw out. THey all played on different teams and not the same team.

Them stats you threw out dont mean shit now. Lakers still have a number 1 and he's the offense. No one on the Lakers has to scale down their game AT ALL.

The stats were only to represent that those guys weren't 'shut down' when they were on their own. No way do they get 'shut down' together. Of course their averages will change.

The main problem, especially with Mike Miller, is you can't double anyone. If a team doubles then one of the 4 will be wide open or whoever they plug in at C will get an easy dunk.

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:32 PM
If they do get to the finals (which I doubt)

Ron Artest guards Lebron
Kobe locks Wade down
Gasol handles Bosh

I dont really see a problem there, to be honest, from a Lakers point of view. We would OWN the boards and would create multiple matchup problems with them, thus not allowing them to run.

After that, the rest of the Lakers have carte blanche

Bynum
Odom
Sasha
thats not counting whoever else we add to the puzzle as Im sure Mitch is looking for the countershot

locks down
shuts down
whats the difference


and the post illustrates what each player is CAPABLE of doing against tbe defenders you mentioned.
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BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:34 PM
All Im saying is if you guys are expecting them to automatically be crowned the best team in the NBA right now, before effectively filling out that top heavy roster and having the coach get them to play as a unselfish and humble team...you are in for a rude awakening.

The Heat have the nucleolus of a GREAT team in place, nobody is disputing that at all, we are just saying that it isnt gonna all of a sudden happen overnight for them.

Pardon my use of the term, but its gonna be "a process"

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:35 PM
The stats were only to represent that those guys weren't 'shut down' when they were on their own. No way do they get 'shut down' together. Of course their averages will change.

The main problem, especially with Mike Miller, is you can't double anyone. If a team doubles then one of the 4 will be wide open or whoever they plug in at C will get an easy dunk.

beat me too it, no 3g here and the phone is SLOW
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JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:38 PM
All Im saying is if you guys are expecting them to automatically be crowned the best team in the NBA right now, before effectively filling out that top heavy roster and having the coach get them to play as a unselfish and humble team...you are in for a rude awakening.

The Heat have the nucleolus of a GREAT team in place, nobody is disputing that at all, we are just saying that it isnt gonna all of a sudden happen overnight for them.

Pardon my use of the term, but its gonna be "a process"

haslem, fisher, miller, z and yeah basically overnight they are in the discussion of whos the best team
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The Bad Guy
07-10-2010, 06:38 PM
I agree with this but also wonder who is going to gaurd Miami's big 3? At least one of them is going to go for 40 every game, maybe more than one of them.

I don't know about 40. I'd park my ass in a zone and make Wade and Bron shoot out of it.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:42 PM
haslem, fisher, miller, z and yeah basically overnight they are in the discussion of whos the best team
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if my aunt had balls shed have been my uncle

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:44 PM
Arison said the team's phones have been ringing off the hook with veterans seeking to sign on, even though it would mean taking the veteran's minimum of roughly $1 million for 2010-11.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-derek-fisher-s071010,0,5717817.story

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 06:45 PM
if my aunt had balls shed have been my uncle

true. but theres more chance of the heat signing some or most of those guys than your aunt growing balls
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BossChief
07-10-2010, 06:53 PM
true. but theres more chance of the heat signing some or most of those guys than your aunt growing balls
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The Lakers have improved their roster EVERY YEAR including after their many recent championships, if you think Mitch is sitting on his hands watching this happen you are mistaken my friend.

I can guarantee you that if the Lakers lose Fisher, we will upgrade the spot in one way or another. They are the absolute best in the league at thinking outside the box to improve the roster.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 06:54 PM
Already, he has seven rings, though the sackful he nudged across the table in recruiting LeBron was maybe triple that. This offers a glimpse as to who Riley is. He has had duplicates of each ring made in yellow gold, sterling silver and platinum, to match his attire.

To Riley, you see, it's important that rings match belt buckles. Greatness, he feels, is defined in ways large and small. He once sent a note congratulating his former NBC partner, Bob Costas, for his great Olympic work. He also added: "But the ties, Bob, the ties!"

The rings, subtly placed on the table, were a shimmering symbol of what the Heat offered LeBron. Spoelstra saw the bag and heard it clang on the table, "like jingle bells,'' he said.

"It's like a weapon,'' Riley said.

Every great player he's recruited, Riley said, talks of winning championships. But Riley was the only architect in this free-agent fight with this big bag of tricks to fire off.

Did these rings help when Riley looked at these players with his empty roster and said, "Trust me?" They couldn't hurt.

James took the bag, looked inside and his eyes went wide.

"We had a good time talking about them,'' is all Riley said.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-hyde-miami-heat-0711-20100710,0,5207107.column

Pat Riley is such a badass.

DaKCMan AP
07-10-2010, 07:01 PM
The Heat has talked to James Jones, who was bought out June 30, about re-signing for the minimum salary and there's interest on both sides. An NBA official mentioned Juwan Howard and Joe Smith among other veterans who would love to join the Heat at the minimum. Agents for Mike James, Von Wafer, Matt Barnes and others also have been in touch with the Heat, but Miami is being very selective.

Derek Fisher met with Pat Riley on Saturday and is being encouraged by the Heat's stars to sign. But he could get more re-signing with the Lakers.

Although Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Raja Bell have been mentioned, Miami has contacted neither, agent Herb Rudoy said.

The Heat raised the minimum-salary scenario with Brad Miller and Roger Mason; their agent, Mark Bartelstein, said Saturday, ``They've got much better offers. It's a question of whether they want to consider the Heat or not.''
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/10/1724665/magic-gm-lakers-are-still-best.html#ixzz0tKao6Vdo

BossChief
07-10-2010, 07:01 PM
Shit Phil Jackson has so many rings that He will have to have a special toe champ ring made and wear flip flops just to wear all his REAL rings.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 07:03 PM
If a player wants to be paid less to win, dont you think he would go to the team that WINS?

You know, like lots and lots of real championships type of winning.

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 07:04 PM
The Lakers have improved their roster EVERY YEAR including after their many recent championships, if you think Mitch is sitting on his hands watching this happen you are mistaken my friend.

I can guarantee you that if the Lakers lose Fisher, we will upgrade the spot in one way or another. They are the absolute best in the league at thinking outside the box to improve the roster.

honestly i hope they meet in the finals. be fun to watch.
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Param
07-10-2010, 07:06 PM
So nobody wants to take my bet that the Heat will be in the NBA Finals next year? I'll bet 500K casino cash.

That's not saying much since you've got a bagillion casino cash.:p

Param
07-10-2010, 07:07 PM
I dont think Bosh is even a top 10 player.

Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
D. Williams
C. Paul
Pau Gasol
D. Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Dirk
Hell, maybe even Tim Duncan still.
Id also take Tyreke Evans over Bosh. Evans is going to be a ****ing beast.

Top 5 big man.

BossChief
07-10-2010, 07:07 PM
honestly i hope they meet in the finals. be fun to watch.
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I agree 100% it will be reminiscent of the old Lakers team (Magic, Kareem etc) met up with MJs Bulls.

I hope it ends that way because I think the Lakers have one more run in them before some changes need made and it would be fun to see it played out against what should be one hell of an exciting team.

It would surely set records for viewing audience of an NBA series in history.

Param
07-10-2010, 07:07 PM
lolwut?

Did I stutter?

JASONSAUTO
07-10-2010, 07:18 PM
I agree 100% it will be reminiscent of the old Lakers team (Magic, Kareem etc) met up with MJs Bulls.

I hope it ends that way because I think the Lakers have one more run in them before some changes need made and it would be fun to see it played out against what should be one hell of an exciting team.

It would surely set records for viewing audience of an NBA series in history.

agreed .
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Param
07-10-2010, 07:22 PM
TBD

Joel Anthony is a possibility. In 16 starts last season he averaged 5pts, 5 boards and 2 blocks. Bosh crashes boards already (averages 11rpg).

Some suggest Shaq. I'm not a big fan of that due to the way he acted the last time he was here & when he left. He's an ass and has an ego bigger than Wade/Bron/Bosh combined. But, whatever..

We'll see who Riles gets.

I'd be surprised if Anthony isn't back. The problem with Shaq is he left on bad bad terms as you've mentioned before. Just can't see him coming back. Haven't heard one thing from Lebron or Wade wanting Shaq in town. My guess both have been exposed to Shaq and neither wants him in Miami.

All the heat need is role players in the middle to occupy space, bang, foul, board, block shots and get the fuck out of the way.

Param
07-10-2010, 07:28 PM
lol, lebron and wade will get theirs.
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yah, no shit! Kobe gonna LOCK down wade. Artest gonna gonna GUARD Lebron. Gasol gonna HANDLE Bosh.... JFC!!!

ROFLROFLROFL

Param
07-10-2010, 07:30 PM
The main problem, especially with Mike Miller, is you can't double anyone.

Miller is gonna cherry pick all day...

vailpass
07-10-2010, 07:50 PM
If they do get to the finals (which I doubt)

Ron Artest guards Lebron
Kobe locks Wade down
Gasol handles Bosh

I dont really see a problem there, to be honest, from a Lakers point of view. We would OWN the boards and would create multiple matchup problems with them, thus not allowing them to run.

After that, the rest of the Lakers have carte blanche

Bynum
Odom
Sasha
thats not counting whoever else we add to the puzzle as Im sure Mitch is looking for the countershot

I'm not saying the Heat can beat the Lakers next year. I will say that LeBron would shred an aging Artest, Bosh would beat Gasol up and Kobe is getting a little older too and would wear down against Bosh.

Fruit Ninja
07-10-2010, 08:22 PM
I'm not saying the Heat can beat the Lakers next year. I will say that LeBron would shred an aging Artest, Bosh would beat Gasol up and Kobe is getting a little older too and would wear down against Bosh.

are you fucking crazy? how would Gasol get beat up? Bosh isnt a post player. Gasol has fucking moves Bosh wishes he had. The only thing we would have to worry about is Lebron. The rest dont even scare any laker fans AT all.

God, i so wish for this to happen so the Lakers will shit all over that Miami team. Lakers have way to many players. I just wish for both teams to go to the finals 100 percent healthy.

Also, dont rule out Shaq signing since we lost 2 of our back up bigs. Shaq has stated time and time again he would love to play his last year or 2 for the Lakers being a back up behind Bynum.

Param
07-10-2010, 08:58 PM
DWright signs for 11 million with Golden State. Not surprised, didn't expect him back.

88TG88
07-10-2010, 10:31 PM
ghey