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healthpellets
07-13-2010, 01:37 PM
Highlights:

*$100 permit fee
*~$75 for training
*$10 per year, per gun
*MUST be fingerprinted.
*Only one operable handgun inside of a home at any time.
*Cannot carry the gun on your porch, garage, or yard.

And somehow, this is going to make Chicago a safer city. Really?

All it's doing is turning law abiding low-income people in to criminals. But, maybe that's the point?

The restrictions are ridiculous. Can't carry your gun in your own garage? Really?

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Taco John
07-13-2010, 01:53 PM
This is great news for the black market.

CoMoChief
07-13-2010, 02:26 PM
How do the fuckin liberals not know, that restricting gun laws for the public is a crime spike waiting to happen.

The people who break the law, unlawfully purchase/use guns are going to do it anyway. The people who need the protection, are the ones who follow the law.

Guns don't kill people, gang violence and dumbasses and people who don't give a shit about others or the law do.

AustinChief
07-13-2010, 02:41 PM
Highlights:

*$100 permit fee
*~$75 for training
*$10 per year, per gun
*MUST be fingerprinted.
*Only one operable handgun inside of a home at any time.
*Cannot carry the gun on your porch, garage, or yard.

And somehow, this is going to make Chicago a safer city. Really?

All it's doing is turning law abiding low-income people in to criminals. But, maybe that's the point?

The restrictions are ridiculous. Can't carry your gun in your own garage? Really?

The fees are reasonable, training is a good idea, and I have no problem with fingerprinting... but the last two points are clear violations... ONE handgun per house? What the f is that?

Cave Johnson
07-13-2010, 02:49 PM
How do the ****in liberals not know, that restricting gun laws for the public is a crime spike waiting to happen.

The people who break the law, unlawfully purchase/use guns are going to do it anyway. The people who need the protection, are the ones who follow the law.

Guns don't kill people, gang violence and dumbasses and people who don't give a shit about others or the law do.

Yeah. Look at Britain. They're overrun with gun crime.

Brock
07-13-2010, 02:49 PM
Constitutional rights are great, as long as you're willing to pay for them, I guess.

Fish
07-13-2010, 02:51 PM
Subvert the 2nd Amendment? Good grief...

For nearly 30 years, it has been illegal to own a handgun in Chicago. Now they're changing that. Albeit, with some stupid restrictions that I really don't approve of. But still, a Constitutional right that Chicago residents have been denied for 3 decades has finally been made available again. And in the midst of evil gun-hating Obama's term even. 2 years ago, this place was drowning in threads about how Obama was going to forcefully take the nation's guns away. Now here we are watching Naziland Chicago overturn their firearm ban.

This is a fucking step in the right direction. A small step, but at least rights that were formerly denied are now accessible. The "One operable" limit is total BS, but there's really no way for them to monitor or enforce it. So that really isn't going to be a deal-breaker for people. It's a great idea to have trigger guards on all weapons not used for self defense anyway.

petegz28
07-13-2010, 02:51 PM
Yeah. Look at Britain. They're overrun with gun crime.

Last time I checked we aren't Britain.

petegz28
07-13-2010, 02:53 PM
Subvert the 2nd Amendment? Good grief...

For nearly 30 years, it has been illegal to own a handgun in Chicago. Now they're changing that. Albeit, with some stupid restrictions that I really don't approve of. But still, a Constitutional right that Chicago residents have been denied for 3 decades has finally been made available again. And in the midst of evil gun-hating Obama's term even. 2 years ago, this place was drowning in threads about how Obama was going to forcefully take the nation's guns away. Now here we are watching Naziland Chicago overturn their firearm ban.

This is a ****ing step in the right direction. A small step, but at least rights that were formerly denied are now accessible. The "One operable" limit is total BS, but there's really no way for them to monitor or enforce it. So that really isn't going to be a deal-breaker for people. It's a great idea to have trigger guards on all weapons not used for self defense anyway.

Lets be clear, Chicago didn't overturn the ban, the SCOTUS did.

Brock
07-13-2010, 02:53 PM
Subvert the 2nd Amendment? Good grief...

For nearly 30 years, it has been illegal to own a handgun in Chicago. Now they're changing that. Albeit, with some stupid restrictions that I really don't approve of. But still, a Constitutional right that Chicago residents have been denied for 3 decades has finally been made available again. And in the midst of evil gun-hating Obama's term even. 2 years ago, this place was drowning in threads about how Obama was going to forcefully take the nation's guns away. Now here we are watching Naziland Chicago overturn their firearm ban.

This is a fucking step in the right direction. A small step, but at least rights that were formerly denied are now accessible. The "One operable" limit is total BS, but there's really no way for them to monitor or enforce it. So that really isn't going to be a deal-breaker for people. It's a great idea to have trigger guards on all weapons not used for self defense anyway.


Better than bad =/= good.

Fish
07-13-2010, 02:58 PM
Lets be clear, Chicago didn't overturn the ban, the SCOTUS did.

Well that changes everything.

Fish
07-13-2010, 03:00 PM
Better than bad =/= good.

In this case better than bad is still progress. Much more progress than anybody ever expected in this situation. Rights that once were not available have been given to the people.

AustinChief
07-13-2010, 03:00 PM
Yeah. Look at Britain. They're overrun with gun crime.

Same with the Swiss.... oops, wait... a country of 7.6 million with 3 million guns in private homes... yet a lower gun crime rate than the UK.

You can't compare other countries... violence is an extension of the general culture... something that is unique to each nation.

And for the record, I'd rather see twice as much gun violence than become the giant vagina of a nation that Britian is.

Brock
07-13-2010, 03:19 PM
In this case better than bad is still progress. Much more progress than anybody ever expected in this situation. Rights that once were not available have been given to the people.

I guess that's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is an entire city has had their rights infringed upon for however long, and now they're being given a portion of them back, but only if they're willing to 1. pay money and 2. submit to an invasion of privacy through fingerprinting.

It sucked before, and it only sucks a little bit less now. And criminal activity is completely unaffected, still.

Fish
07-13-2010, 03:26 PM
I guess that's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is an entire city has had their rights infringed upon for however long, and now they're being given a portion of them back, but only if they're willing to 1. pay money and 2. submit to an invasion of privacy through fingerprinting.

It sucked before, and it only sucks a little bit less now. And criminal activity is completely unaffected, still.

Sadly, that's pretty appropriate. It's suckage in the right direction... errr.. it's positive suckage... No... it sucks better than I expected it would suck...

Fuck I don't know... it's better than seeing the laws get more restrictive.

healthpellets
07-13-2010, 03:32 PM
The fees are reasonable, training is a good idea, and I have no problem with fingerprinting... but the last two points are clear violations... ONE handgun per house? What the f is that?

training is a good idea. the fees, imo, are unreasonable. we're talking about 1/7th of someone's monthly salary if that person is making minimum wage.

the fingerprinting is an issue imo. there are plenty of other ways to run a background check and confirm that the applicant is not a felon. it should be optional. with those choosing the alternative method understanding that it might take longer to process their application.

it's one operable gun per household. so the rest of your guns have to be broken down and stored away. or otherwise generally worthless.

Garcia Bronco
07-13-2010, 03:39 PM
Gun violence in this country co pared to the population is miniscule. It's tiny. There are what....20,000 gun deaths per year? Over half a million die from lung cancer each year.

Bwana
07-13-2010, 06:37 PM
I celebrated the anti-gun freaks by picking up my new Smith & Wesson 500 today. I can't wait to go out and shoot this thunder stick. Here grizzly.......

http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/model500.jpg
http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STmonster_1103A.jpg

healthpellets
07-13-2010, 07:51 PM
holy balls.

I celebrated the anti-gun freaks by picking up my new Smith & Wesson 500 today. I can't wait to go out and shoot this thunder stick. Here grizzly.......

http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/model500.jpg
http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STmonster_1103A.jpg

Saul Good
07-13-2010, 08:01 PM
Sadly, that's pretty appropriate. It's suckage in the right direction... errr.. it's positive suckage... No... it sucks better than I expected it would suck...

**** I don't know... it's better than seeing the laws get more restrictive.

It's good on the Supreme Court but bad on Chicago. Chicago has made it abundantly clear that they will do whatever they can to combat the second amendment.

Radar Chief
07-13-2010, 10:09 PM
Here's an idea, don't live in Chicago. No, really, I've been there. You're not missing anything.

AndChiefs
07-14-2010, 05:44 AM
I liked the part about making it as easy as possible to register their gun....but not allowing a gun shop to be in the city.

It's easy to register but you're not going to be able to buy a gun unless you leave.

The Mad Crapper
07-14-2010, 06:02 AM
Here's an idea, don't live in Chicago. No, really, I've been there. You're not missing anything.

ROFL

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Obama_CommunityMissingOrg_1.gif

BigOlChiefsfan
07-14-2010, 09:44 AM
Shortshanks Daley has armed guards 24/7 and the Aldermen can all have concealed pistols, it's the rest of the city that has to suffer. FWIW, I think that this is all Shortshanks at this stage of the game, the rest of Chicago is ready to move on (dot org) but Shortshanks doesn't mind spending everyone else's money. I heard a rumor that Shortshanks is trying an end-run around the constitution by calling in the World Court on this, he is, in effect, trying to supercede the US Constitution to suit his own shiteating agenda. But I think I have the cure. I know it's a tradition in Chicago to vote for the biggest asshole on the ballot, and anytime Shortshanks is on that ballot he's a slam dunk as the biggest asshole,. But I think Al Davis should run for Mayor in Chicago. He may be a bigger asshole than Shortshanks but at least I never heard that he insisted on everyone going unarmed around him. How is Raiderfan gonna 'shank' a 90 lb Charger fan if he don't have plenty o' weaponry? He's not. This could be a Win Win, people for the AFC West (face it Raiderfan, you know we're right). So everyone vote for 'rat bastard' Al Davis for Mayor of Chicago, Shortshanks Daley for Dog Catcher. As they say in Chi-town and St. Louis, vote early, vote often!