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KCrockaholic
07-15-2010, 12:07 PM
The supplemental draft is being done via E-mail this year. We should know within a few hours if the KC Chiefs (who are very interested) are awarded BYU runningback Harvey Unga. In case you don't know, Unga was kicked out of BYU for having sexual relations with Tony Moeaki's sister. Which, as we all know, at BYU that is a big no-no.

What do you think? Should we take Unga? Or how much would you be willing to give up to have Harvey Unga? At the highest it sounds like a 3rd pick is what it will take. At the lowest, possibly a 5th.

DaneMcCloud
07-15-2010, 12:16 PM
With Jamaal Charles, Thomas Jones, Kesthan Moore, Javarris Williams, Jackie Battle, Mike Cox and Tim Castille, why would the Chiefs give up a 2011 draft choice when they have so many other holes to fill on the roster?

For a third through a 5th, you're looking at a possible long term solution at center, guard, right tackle, third WR, etc.

That doesn't seem like a wise decision for the Chiefs at this time.

OnTheWarpath58
07-15-2010, 12:18 PM
With Jamaal Charles, Thomas Jones, Kesthan Moore, Javarris Williams, Jackie Battle, Mike Cox and Tim Castille, why would the Chiefs give up a 2011 draft choice when they have so many other holes to fill on the roster?

For a third through a 5th, you're looking at a possible long term solution at center, guard, right tackle, third WR, etc.

That doesn't seem like a wise decision for the Chiefs at this time.

Exactly.

Deberg_1990
07-15-2010, 12:22 PM
Why even have a supplemental draft? Cant these guys just be free agents??

Dicky McElephant
07-15-2010, 12:23 PM
No thanks.

RustShack
07-15-2010, 12:29 PM
I put no because I read something about him going 3. I wouldn't mind it if we get him with like at least a 5.

CoMoChief
07-15-2010, 12:33 PM
Need NT/DL depth

Mr. Arrowhead
07-15-2010, 12:34 PM
we'll get him since everybody dont want him

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Well they're already in round 4..nobody has been drafted yet

philfree
07-15-2010, 12:45 PM
With Jamaal Charles, Thomas Jones, Kesthan Moore, Javarris Williams, Jackie Battle, Mike Cox and Tim Castille, why would the Chiefs give up a 2011 draft choice when they have so many other holes to fill on the roster?

For a third through a 5th, you're looking at a possible long term solution at center, guard, right tackle, third WR, etc.

That doesn't seem like a wise decision for the Chiefs at this time.

Thomas Jones has 1 or 2 years left and that's it. As far as the other positions of need go maybe they're trying to get talent when and where they can as oppossed to just drafting for need.

That said they haven't pulled the trigger yet so it's all probably moot.


PhilFree:arrow:

Detoxing
07-15-2010, 12:46 PM
I'd rather draft Tony's sister.

talastan
07-15-2010, 12:46 PM
How deep is the OL/DL and LB prospects in next years' draft? If it isn't very deep on any of these three positions than I say save the draft pick for next year so we can get help at our positions of need.

OnTheWarpath58
07-15-2010, 12:47 PM
Need front 7 depth

FYP.

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 12:50 PM
Entering Round 5 now

DaneMcCloud
07-15-2010, 12:50 PM
Thomas Jones has 1 or 2 years left and that's it. As far as the other positions of need go maybe they're trying to get talent when and where they can as oppossed to just drafting for need.

That said they haven't pulled the trigger yet so it's all probably moot.


PhilFree:arrow:

Jamaal Charles is the starter, barring injury, for the next three years minimum.

Even if TJ doesn't last beyond the 2011 season, there are always plenty of options at backup running back in free agency.

Wasting a third, fourth or fifth round pick - a guy who could be a potential day one starter, on a backup running back is not a good drafting philosophy.

ChiefGator
07-15-2010, 12:54 PM
I think Unga goes this round. And I think a dependable backup and possible starter/3rd-down back is worth a fifth. Jones is going to start slowing down soon, if not already. At most we could hope to get two years out of him. And he did as well as he did this year while splitting carries. If Charles OR Jones goes down right now, we are very light at RB.

You don't skip on using a 5th rounder on a potential big impact player because of Kesthan Moore, Javarris Williams, and Jackie Battle.

ClevelandBronco
07-15-2010, 12:56 PM
Forget Harvey Unga. Osca Madison wrote a column saying he's as much of a headcase as his grandfather.

Mr. Arrowhead
07-15-2010, 12:59 PM
Round 5 done, onto the 6th

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 12:59 PM
Round 6 started. At this point I would be fine if they selected the RB.

ChiefGator
07-15-2010, 01:01 PM
Round 6 started. At this point I would be fine if they selected the RB.

Yep.. everyone should go back and change their vote to a yes now.

Sofa King
07-15-2010, 01:04 PM
I'd rather draft Tony's sister.

http://www.byucougars.com/media_guides/basketball_w/2009/images/bio-moeaki.jpg

this her? not too shabby.

OnTheWarpath58
07-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Yep.. everyone should go back and change their vote to a yes now.

No can do.

We need these late round picks to trade up for next year's TE selection.

Mr. Laz
07-15-2010, 01:06 PM
Need NT/DL depth
no we don't ... we have McCluster and Arenas

KCrockaholic
07-15-2010, 01:07 PM
At this point we should pull the trigger IMO.

Mr. Arrowhead
07-15-2010, 01:09 PM
through the 6th round and onto to the 7th

ClevelandBronco
07-15-2010, 01:09 PM
http://www.byucougars.com/media_guides/basketball_w/2009/images/bio-moeaki.jpg

this her? not too shabby.

She's 6'-2"? Yikes.

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 01:09 PM
Round 7 just started. Nobody has been selected yet.

ChiefGator
07-15-2010, 01:12 PM
No can do.

We need these late round picks to trade up for next year's TE selection.

Doh.. forgot about that. Can a moderator change my vote to 'Hell No'.

Mile High Mania
07-15-2010, 01:12 PM
Where is this posted?

ChiefGator
07-15-2010, 01:13 PM
I think Unga goes this round.

Oh yeah.. .I was just looking at ESPN's twitter on their NFL page

http://espn.go.com/nfl/

kc rush
07-15-2010, 01:16 PM
So does he become an UDFA if no one selects him?

Saccopoo
07-15-2010, 01:16 PM
With Jamaal Charles, Thomas Jones, Kesthan Moore, Javarris Williams, Jackie Battle, Mike Cox and Tim Castille, why would the Chiefs give up a 2011 draft choice when they have so many other holes to fill on the roster?

For a third through a 5th, you're looking at a possible long term solution at center, guard, right tackle, third WR, etc.

That doesn't seem like a wise decision for the Chiefs at this time.

Other than the first two, Unga is a better all-around back than anyone else you listed. He's BYU's all-time leading rusher with a year of eligibility left. The guy is a powerback/fullback with excellent hands, excellent blocking skills, good vision and hits the holes with authority.

Given Thomas Jones age, I think that getting a quality all-purpose back in the Kimble Anders mold (and I think that Unga is more talented at the same level) would be well-worth a future third round selection or lower for a team not very deep at that position. Personally, I don't even think we've got that type of player on the roster as Cox and Castille are pure fullbacks and the rest are unproven question marks.

I'd be happy to get Unga in the supplemental.

doomy3
07-15-2010, 01:17 PM
I'd take him here in the seventh for sure.

boogblaster
07-15-2010, 01:17 PM
our needs aren't RBs

KCrockaholic
07-15-2010, 01:19 PM
I wonder if he will even get drafted... I know the Chiefs were very interested.

Mr. Arrowhead
07-15-2010, 01:19 PM
Bears draft him for a 7th

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 01:19 PM
Bears draft Unga

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 01:20 PM
Dallas drafts Brent Price

KCrockaholic
07-15-2010, 01:21 PM
Not bad. They got good value.

KCrockaholic
07-15-2010, 01:32 PM
Dallas drafts Brent Price

I dont know this guy....But by the name, I'm guessing he's a white WR or TE?

Mr. Arrowhead
07-15-2010, 01:36 PM
I dont know this guy....But by the name, I'm guessing he's a white WR or TE?

nope a DE

Deberg_1990
07-15-2010, 01:39 PM
Man, that was exciting! All 80 minutes of it.

Zeke
07-15-2010, 01:41 PM
I dont know this guy....But by the name, I'm guessing he's a white WR or TE?

Nope, point guard.

Renegade
07-15-2010, 01:44 PM
Man, that was exciting! All 80 minutes of it.

How does this supplemental draft work? How many players, how many teams, what is the length between picks?

okiedokieokoye
07-15-2010, 01:53 PM
How does this supplemental draft work? How many players, how many teams, what is the length between picks?

Don't worry..you didn't miss much.

Dicky McElephant
07-15-2010, 03:36 PM
Bears draft Unga

Fuck. That takes away even MORE value from Forte.

SDChiefs
07-15-2010, 03:54 PM
I for one nominate Moaeki's sister for "Importing".

Mecca
07-15-2010, 04:40 PM
Well hell, I'm sure he's more worth a 7th than Jake O'Connell.

bevischief
07-15-2010, 06:47 PM
Who got that DT that up for grabs?

Shaid
07-15-2010, 08:13 PM
Why even have a supplemental draft? Cant these guys just be free agents??

Because top draft picks might decide to say they weren't going out in the draft and then would just decide to go out after the draft is up so they could go to any team they want. :shrug:

Consistent1
07-15-2010, 08:55 PM
With Jamaal Charles, Thomas Jones, Kesthan Moore, Javarris Williams, Jackie Battle, Mike Cox and Tim Castille, why would the Chiefs give up a 2011 draft choice when they have so many other holes to fill on the roster?

For a third through a 5th, you're looking at a possible long term solution at center, guard, right tackle, third WR, etc.

That doesn't seem like a wise decision for the Chiefs at this time.


I think the only way to defend it would be to assume that Jones won't be here long, and cut all those HB guys to keep Charles, Jones and Unga for a future big back. Plus, they would have to be huge believers that the kid is pretty much can't miss. There would still be McCluster to take some emergency carries if the shit hit the fan. I tend to agree with you though.