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Hoover
07-16-2010, 08:06 AM
Hey guys. As some of you know my wife and I are building a new house. I'm pretty happy with the progress. The framing is almost completed so its cool to see substantial progress.

The "Wants vs Needs" in the tittle is a little misleading, as we have already made most of the major decisions. For example we have 2x6 construction, geo-thermal, upgraded floor coverings, etc. There are also things that we are not doing, like finnishing the basement, building a deck off of the back of the house, and its not huge in terms of overall square footage. Anyway, I have a little room in the budget to do some extra things and wanted to get your advice.

Here is what is on my list.

1. Whole house generator. When the power goes out, it automatically switches over and runs pretty much everything.

2. While I'm not finnishing the basement, I could have them run all of the HVAC ducts as I know what the layout will eventually be.

3. Its my goal to build a stone patio in the next 2-3 years, but I could have them pour me a concrete slab so I would basically have some patio area when you come off of the back steps of the house.

4. Screw all of that crap and just buy a couple huge TV's.

Let me know if I'm missing anything.

Thanks

Hoov

Picture of the house from earlier this week.

seclark
07-16-2010, 08:09 AM
i'd consider going ahead and finishing the basement if the funds are there. do it now and it would probably cost less than having it done later.
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Hoover
07-16-2010, 08:12 AM
That's the thing, I don't think I can swing doing it all right now, I could only do about 5k.

seclark
07-16-2010, 08:16 AM
That's the thing, I don't think I can swing doing it all right now, I could only do about 5k.

just saying...we built a couple years ago and didn't plan on finishing the basement until a few years down the road. then we figured we already had the carpenters there and wouldn't have the fuss of them working downstairs while we were living in it, trying to keep stuff clean.

we were very glad to get it done, and of course the house was worth quite a bit more. we think it was a lot cheaper in the long run.

either way, good luck.
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txhawk
07-16-2010, 08:21 AM
at the very least, I would recommend you have the carpenters frame the basement as you would want it, run all your MEPs, drywall and float/tape the space. You can save $ by doing the flooring/painting and other finish work yourself, even if they just rough-in the bathroom you can add toilet, shower fixtures etc, this will also help keep u motivated to finish the basement sooner than later as the rough-in and drywall will be done, you're just left to make it pretty :)

cdcox
07-16-2010, 08:22 AM
Having a nice shaded outdoor space to sit, BBQ, etc would be a priority for me. But I don't like spending money on temporary things. Seems like for $5K you could at least get a start on an outdoor area. I would build something permanent that you can expand on later.

Hoover
07-16-2010, 08:22 AM
Already did the rough in for a bar sink and full bath down there.

Any idea what it would cost to frame the basement?

txhawk
07-16-2010, 08:28 AM
Already did the rough in for a bar sink and full bath down there.

Any idea what it would cost to frame the basement?

In TX where I am, new construction framing shouldn't be more than $3-$5 a foot, not including material. (especially if you already have a crew out there)

Save some money by installing the bat insulation yourself..before they drywall, very easy and quick. Let the pros do the drywall/float/tape, trust me, not a fun or fast project if you don't do it everyday.

Also by getting this stuff down now, you can piece mill projects as your budget allows and roll the initial construction expense into your mortgage, which at the end of the day should only cost you a few extra dollars per month

Rain Man
07-16-2010, 08:33 AM
Looking at the picture, I'd strongly recommend a roof over those other things.

Otherwise, my general rule is "buy less, but more cool". Instead of adding lots of features, make sure the features you have make people go 'wow'. I find it kind of funny when I go into a house that's really large, but all the features are low-end quality and the furniture is cheap.

doomy3
07-16-2010, 08:36 AM
Looking at the picture, I'd strongly recommend a roof over those other things.

Otherwise, my general rule is "buy less, but more cool". Instead of adding lots of features, make sure the features you have make people go 'wow'. I find it kind of funny when I go into a house that's really large, but all the features are low-end quality and the furniture is cheap.

This is great advice.

Slainte
07-16-2010, 08:40 AM
I find it kind of funny when I go into a house that's really large, but all the features are low-end quality and the furniture is cheap.

The inverse is also funny...

Hoover
07-16-2010, 08:42 AM
This is great advice.

Agree 100%

We are spending a little more than we have planned so that we can upgrade appliances, woodwork, hardwood floors, tile, huge master shower.

We do have a roof now, at the end it will look like this except flipped.

Fat Elvis
07-16-2010, 08:45 AM
The inverse is also funny...

Not really. Most older craftsman or other older style homes have a lot less square footage than the average home today, but they tend to have fantastic details that are simply out of the price range of most people who are building new.

Rain Man
07-16-2010, 08:46 AM
One thing I lament not putting in my kitchen is a weight-activated water fountain and built-in drain on the floor so my cat can get his own water. Now he jumps up on the counter and I have to turn the sink on for him and wait until he finishes drinking. (He prefers drinking moving water over water bowls.)

Hoover
07-16-2010, 08:47 AM
Not really. Most older craftsman or other older style homes have a lot less square footage than the average home today, but they tend to have fantastic details that are simply out of the price range of most people who are building new.
The hose we sold in December fit that description. It was a full 2 story brick craftsman with 2400 sq ft., but the woodwork in the place and how it was but was just awesome. I'll always miss that house.

Hoover
07-16-2010, 08:50 AM
One thing I lament not putting in my kitchen is a weight-activated water fountain and built-in drain on the floor so my cat can get his own water. Now he jumps up on the counter and I have to turn the sink on for him and wait until he finishes drinking. (He prefers drinking moving water over water bowls.)
Dude, get a cat water fountain for 50 bucks. It recirculates the water and have not had a cat on a counter since.

http://www.amazon.com/Drinkwell-D2WB-RE-Platinum-Pet-Fountain/dp/B000L3XYZ4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1279291773&sr=8-2-spell

Buehler445
07-16-2010, 09:01 AM
Good to hear things are coming along. If I were you, I'd rough out the basement. Do the stuff downstairs that you can't do yourself. Someone can always run a slab for you, but it is going to be a PITA to get people downstairs to frame the basement.

Groves
07-16-2010, 09:05 AM
geothermal heating/cooling

ClevelandBronco
07-16-2010, 09:07 AM
Agree 100%

We are spending a little more than we have planned so that we can upgrade appliances, woodwork, hardwood floors, tile, huge master shower.

We do have a roof now, at the end it will look like this except flipped.

Seems like a weird decision, but it's your house.

mlyonsd
07-16-2010, 09:07 AM
Are you going to do the basement finishing yourself? Down the road I mean?

I bought all the materials to do it, framing lumber, sheet rock, fireplace, etc with my construction loan and just stored it downstairs for a year until I was ready to start the work.

Rolling the material into the construction loan a) eliminated the problem of coming up with the cash later, and b) got me off my a** so it got done.

Hoover
07-16-2010, 09:08 AM
geothermal heating/cooling
already done

Rain Man
07-16-2010, 09:09 AM
Dude, get a cat water fountain for 50 bucks. It recirculates the water and have not had a cat on a counter since.

http://www.amazon.com/Drinkwell-D2WB-RE-Platinum-Pet-Fountain/dp/B000L3XYZ4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1279291773&sr=8-2-spell


I did, and thought it would be the best Christmas gift ever, but he prefers faucet water.

Rain Man
07-16-2010, 09:09 AM
Solar? You got solar? I'd like to put some panels on my house.

Hoover
07-16-2010, 09:10 AM
Are you going to do the basement finishing yourself? Down the road I mean?

I bought all the materials to do it, framing lumber, sheet rock, fireplace, etc with my construction loan and just stored it downstairs for a year until I was ready to start the work.

Rolling the material into the construction loan a) eliminated the problem of coming up with the cash later, and b) got me off my a** so it got done.
Kinda, I have family who are eager to help with the basement.

Mr. Laz
07-16-2010, 10:06 AM
is flood prevention for basement needed?

sealing foundation?

pre-installation security installation for entire house

extra insulation for energy/noise etc

solar

wind

those special windows that block summer sun but allow winter sun

3-prong inset outlets (small thing but handy)

ceiling fans already installed(another small thing but ... )

catinkansas
07-16-2010, 10:10 AM
Get an on demand water heater. They are energy efficient and you'll never run out of hot water!

RJ
07-16-2010, 10:23 AM
Seems like a weird decision, but it's your house.

You probably didn't know that Hoover and his family are circus folk.

Groves
07-16-2010, 03:12 PM
Cheese cave, wine cellar, and root cellar. And a firepole. No house goes down in value with a firepole.

mikeyis4dcats.
07-16-2010, 04:21 PM
I did, and thought it would be the best Christmas gift ever, but he prefers faucet water.


obviously he's Jewish.

Rain Man
07-16-2010, 04:35 PM
Cheese cave, wine cellar, and root cellar. And a firepole. No house goes down in value with a firepole.


I was on a home tour of a mansiony-type house a while back, and they had a fire pole. Or so they said. It was in the bedroom, so I still think it was a cleverly disguised stripper pole.

Rain Man
07-16-2010, 04:37 PM
obviously he's Jewish.

(Smacking forehead). So THAT's why he keeps fighting with that Persian cat down the street.