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shitgoose
07-16-2010, 04:24 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=5385568


By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
Paper Lions
Detroit has finished last in the NFL in total defense each of the past three seasons, and hasn't ranked in the top 20 in the category since 2005, and so it is little wonder that general manager Martin Mayhew and head coach Jim Schwartz are rebuilding the unit. So far, there are six projected new starters for 2010, and the Lions aren't done yet. The Lions, who at least on paper appear to be improved on the defensive side, have indicated an interest in another dissatisfied veteran who would help the revamping. How about defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, with whom Schwartz is familiar from their tenure together in Tennessee? Uh, no. Detroit insiders have confirmed the team is interested in Kansas City strong safety Jarrad Page, who has yet to sign his one-year restricted tender with the Chiefs ($1.76 million) and has requested a trade. A four-year veteran, Page was limited to five games in 2009 by a shoulder problem that landed him on injured reserve. But the 225-pounder, if healthy, would make a nice complement to second-year free safety Louis Delmas, a rising star. The Lions used three strong safeties -- Marquand Manuel, Ko Simpson and Marvin White -- to partner with Delmas in '09.

KCrockaholic
07-16-2010, 04:26 PM
I figured since Gunther is in Detriot. But if Page was smart he would just stay in KC. Atleast we have a decent looking future. Even with Stafford and Johnson, and Suh, that team has the shittiest of luck.

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2010, 04:27 PM
I figured since Gunther is in Detriot. But if Page was smart he would just stay in KC. Atleast we have a decent looking future. Even with Stafford and Johnson, and Suh, that team has the shittiest of luck.

LMAO

Yeah, the Chiefs have the greatest luck.

OnTheWarpath58
07-16-2010, 04:28 PM
Wow, that'd be a great spot for Page.

He and Delmas would make a solid tandem.

Huffman83
07-16-2010, 04:29 PM
But if KC got a 3rd rounder or a big DT like Sammie Hill to try out as NT. Go for it!

Pestilence
07-16-2010, 04:29 PM
But if KC got a 3rd rounder or a big DT like Sammie Hill to try out as NT. Go for it!

ROFL

KCrockaholic
07-16-2010, 04:32 PM
LMAO

Yeah, the Chiefs have the greatest luck.

Well dude, I mean when you compare the Chiefs and Lions.

It would be in Page's best interest to stay in KC, unless he is seriously that set on getting away from Haley.

Huffman83
07-16-2010, 04:32 PM
ROFL

I suppose you have a better suggestion?

Deberg_1990
07-16-2010, 04:33 PM
Well Bye.....

Gunther can have him.

Detoxing
07-16-2010, 04:33 PM
Wow, that'd be a great spot for Page.

He and Delmas would make a solid tandem.

So would he and Berry

Pestilence
07-16-2010, 04:34 PM
I suppose you have a better suggestion?

Page isn't worth a 3rd round pick or Sammie Lee Hill.

He's MAYBE worth a conditional 4th round pick......and that's pushing it.

OnTheWarpath58
07-16-2010, 04:34 PM
Well dude, I mean when you compare the Chiefs and Lions.

It would be in Page's best interest to stay in KC, unless he is seriously that set on getting away from Haley.

It would be in Page's best interest to stay in KC and get the Derrick Johnson treatment?

KCrockaholic
07-16-2010, 04:34 PM
So would he and Berry

Other than Page would have to learn how to play both FS and SS. He's too much of a pussy to be a good SS, IMO.

OnTheWarpath58
07-16-2010, 04:35 PM
So would he and Berry

They absolutely would. I agree.

I just think that Page is going to get, as I just put it in my last post, the "Derrick Johnson" treatment.

You know, where the best player doesn't play.

KCrockaholic
07-16-2010, 04:35 PM
It would be in Page's best interest to stay in KC and get the Derrick Johnson treatment?

Well if he worked his ass off and kissed Pioli's ass, he would probably end up starting. But at this rate, he won't be starting. I mean, all he has to do is beat Kendrick Lewis for the other Safety job. How hard could that be, unless Lewis turns into dynamite in TC?

Huffman83
07-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Page isn't worth a 3rd round pick or Sammie Lee Hill.

He's MAYBE worth a conditional 4th round pick......and that's pushing it.

Fully aware...but if they want him. Would you argue w/ a 3rd round pick?

I also don't see much depth worth a shit at NT do you?

bevischief
07-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Good let them have the cancer.

KCrockaholic
07-16-2010, 04:37 PM
The most we could get for Page would be a 5th round pick.

Detoxing
07-16-2010, 04:37 PM
Other than Page would have to learn how to play both FS and SS. He's too much of a pussy to be a good SS, IMO.

Well, this article is acting like he's going to play SS in Detroit.

Detoxing
07-16-2010, 04:38 PM
The most we could get for Page would be a 5th round pick.

And that's being generous. I'd rather just keep him. But if he won't sign his tender; fuck him.

Pestilence
07-16-2010, 04:38 PM
Fully aware...but if they want him. Would you argue w/ a 3rd round pick?

I also don't see much depth worth a shit at NT do you?

I'm not going to argue with a 3rd round pick if Detroit wants to be dumb enough to give it up for Page.

And just because we don't have depth at NT....doesn't mean that another team is going to give us a good one. Sammie Lee Hill is liked by the coaching staff in Detroit. They aren't just going to trade him away.

KCrockaholic
07-16-2010, 04:39 PM
Well, this article is acting like he's going to play SS in Detroit.

Hmm. I didn't take the time to actually read it lol. But, I still don't really believe he could make a good SS. But, just watch, he will go to Detriot and put on the Bernard Pollard show.

Huffman83
07-16-2010, 04:47 PM
I'm not going to argue with a 3rd round pick if Detroit wants to be dumb enough to give it up for Page.

And just because we don't have depth at NT....doesn't mean that another team is going to give us a good one. Sammie Lee Hill is liked by the coaching staff in Detroit. They aren't just going to trade him away.

No shit...but would you mind?

OnTheWarpath58
07-16-2010, 04:49 PM
Well if he worked his ass off and kissed Pioli's ass, he would probably end up starting. But at this rate, he won't be starting. I mean, all he has to do is beat Kendrick Lewis for the other Safety job. How hard could that be, unless Lewis turns into dynamite in TC?

Yeah, all Wade Smith needed to do was beat out Mike Goff.

All Jamaal Charles needed to do was beat out LJ.

And so on, and so on...

CaliforniaChief
07-16-2010, 04:56 PM
In the current regime's eyes, it could be that Page has more value as an example to be made of rather than the measly draft pick that would net them a player of marginal worth.

Teach the other guys in the locker room what happens when they request a trade or show any kind of discontent over their contract situation.

booger
07-16-2010, 05:07 PM
I'd ask for a player/player swap of page for cliff avril. Avril is worth more though as a pass rusher. They did sign van den bosch this offseason but don't have much else for quality at DE.
I don't think DET wants to trade avril though.

as for page:
All depends on how bad they want to trade page or like has been said make an example of him.