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Saulbadguy
07-23-2010, 07:26 AM
I'll give a sizeable rep/casino cash donation to whoever correctly diagnoses my problem. I'm taking it to "the shop" tomorrow.

2005 Ford Escape V6
Turn key, takes a few seconds to start
Makes a "weird" noise when idling, a knocking noise
Drives normally, unless you are stopped, in which it makes previously mentioned noise, and sort of "shakes" a tad bit, like you are tapping on the brakes
ENGINE LIGHT JUST CAME ON. DANGER.

Sofa King
07-23-2010, 07:29 AM
Something with the Air Conditioner.


EDIT: Actually, i'm serious. i used to have a 95 Neon and an old Lumina. both were fairly high mileage, and both had symtoms like those when the AC unit went out. i doubt i'm right, but it's a guess noone else would have guessed, i'm guessing.


EDIT EDIT: AC Compressor perhaps?

Dinny Blues
07-23-2010, 07:33 AM
What color is your car?

Dinny

Dartgod
07-23-2010, 07:33 AM
First in...

It needs a big glass of antifreeze

Saulbadguy
07-23-2010, 07:33 AM
What color is your car?

Dinny

Red. Kind of a darker red.

Dinny Blues
07-23-2010, 07:38 AM
Red. Kind of a darker red.

I see.

If you had a warning light that used the word danger, you should turn it off immediately and have it towed where it needs to go.

It sounds like bad hoo doo or deep doo doo.

Dinny

nstygma
07-23-2010, 07:45 AM
cylinder misfire

Radar Chief
07-23-2010, 07:47 AM
Someone put sugar in your gas. /Hogfarmer

Bwana
07-23-2010, 07:48 AM
Do you (or a buddy) have an OBD II reader by any chance. If so, plug it in and pull the fault code(s). It sounds like more than one problem to be honest with you. You may be looking at a failing starter and or a loose connection with the first problem and your lifters or rods may have issues for the second. You could also have a bad spark plug wire, or coil wire for the second. Any chance any water got under any spark plug wires? Did you wash the engine lately, or got through any deep water? Check all your wire connections. How's the oil level?

bevischief
07-23-2010, 07:51 AM
emissons sensor.
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El Jefe
07-23-2010, 07:58 AM
Muffler bearing, or low blinker fluid /CP.

Bwana
07-23-2010, 07:59 AM
Muffler bearing, or low blinker fluid /CP.

Heh

Or the Battery torque modulator. ;)

TrebMaxx
07-23-2010, 08:00 AM
My wife had a 04 Escape with the V-6. Hers had symptoms much like you are describing and we took it to the shop. Turned out to be something really minor that I don't even remember what it was.

OnTheWarpath58
07-23-2010, 08:03 AM
Probably a bad Fetzer valve.

You're going to need some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.

MOhillbilly
07-23-2010, 08:09 AM
sounds like you are about to drop a valve.

bevischief
07-23-2010, 08:10 AM
Bad Flux capacitor.

bevischief
07-23-2010, 08:10 AM
sounds like you are about to drop a valve.

Or a duce.

HemiEd
07-23-2010, 08:10 AM
With so many emissions and computer sensors on these cars, it is very difficult to diagnose without the plug in tool.

Autozone has a simple one, that only detects the most obvious issues, that they will do no charge.

But my guess, it is a throttle position sensor (a wear item), which is giving bad information, to the rest of the system. To me that would be a clue on the hard start, and potential fat/lean issue causing the rough running.

But once again, without the proper diagnostic tools, it is just an educated guess.

EWOK
07-23-2010, 08:17 AM
Get it looked at because there are too many things that can cause this. Throttle position sensor,vacuum leak, EGR valve, leaking fuel injector, and the list continues.

Dayze
07-23-2010, 08:17 AM
Probably a bad Fetzer valve.

You're going to need some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.

...and ball bearings. don't forget the ball bearings.

Bwana
07-23-2010, 08:19 AM
Bad Flux capacitor.

Say it isn't so!





http://www.lionking.org/~simba007/BACK_TO_THE_FUTURE-0.jpg

JASONSAUTO
07-23-2010, 08:22 AM
im gonna bet its a bad coil pack.


if it shows a miss on 1, 3, or 5 make SURE they replace that coil along with the plug. labor to pull the plenum costs more that a coil, at least when i do them

Brock
07-23-2010, 08:23 AM
Dust off that change purse and buy a code reader.

ChiTown
07-23-2010, 08:24 AM
...and ball bearings. don't forget the ball bearings.

gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State

JASONSAUTO
07-23-2010, 08:24 AM
on the front bank you can try a plug first because the plenum doesnt have to be removed.


trust me on this i have eaten labor before to re pull the plenum on a faulty coil, but most shops wouldnt eat that.

Extra Point
07-23-2010, 08:28 AM
Camshaft position sensor housing worn? Dave at Extra Mile can help you. 785-320-7335. He specializes in imports, but does a lot of domestics. Have him pull the codes.

boogblaster
07-23-2010, 08:31 AM
Its a sensor or a plug or plug wire

Extra Point
07-23-2010, 08:37 AM
Hey, how's the furnace working, these days?ROFL

Baby Lee
07-23-2010, 08:43 AM
Is it lagging in power? If so, along with the knocking and shaking, I'd guess a bad spark plug/wire [or 2].

JASONSAUTO
07-23-2010, 08:46 AM
Is it lagging in power? If so, along with the knocking and shaking, I'd guess a bad spark plug/wire [or 2].

no wires, coil packs and COP boots.

Saulbadguy
07-23-2010, 08:48 AM
Hey, how's the furnace working, these days?ROFL

EXCELLENT, thanks for checking! Well, haven't turned it on in a spell, so who knows.

jbwm89
07-23-2010, 08:52 AM
im gonna bet its a bad coil pack.


if it shows a miss on 1, 3, or 5 make SURE they replace that coil along with the plug. labor to pull the plenum costs more that a coil, at least when i do them

Agreed.

Detoxing
07-23-2010, 09:08 AM
im gonna bet its a bad coil pack.


if it shows a miss on 1, 3, or 5 make SURE they replace that coil along with the plug. labor to pull the plenum costs more that a coil, at least when i do them

This one right here. This post right above me that I have quoted. This is probably your most likely cause.

kstater
07-23-2010, 10:46 AM
It's a Ford.

Saulbadguy
07-23-2010, 12:31 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=145175

Same problem, different vehicle. My car didn't run weird/make a weird noise when it happened, though.