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angelo
07-24-2010, 07:13 AM
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/07/23/img-academy-proves-boot-camp-before-training-camp-for-nfl-player/

This is very encouraging.

Ang

Bwana
07-24-2010, 07:20 AM
Great read, thanks for posting it.

Hog Farmer
07-24-2010, 07:31 AM
Nice to see our players with the right mind set. I can not wait to see MCCluster hit the field.

milkman
07-24-2010, 07:31 AM
I'm not a big fan of the McCluster pick, but I do like his dedication.

milkman
07-24-2010, 07:32 AM
On a side note, DBowe could probably benefit from some of those eye/focus exercises.

Bwana
07-24-2010, 07:44 AM
I'm not a big fan of the McCluster pick, but I do like his dedication.

I feel about the same way. I was a bit taken back by the pick, but it sounds like he has a great attitude and is working his tail off to be the best he can be when he hits the field. I can respect that and hope he turns out to be good for the team.

TheGuardian
07-24-2010, 08:23 AM
Wasn't a big fan of the pick at the time but he has certainly grown on me. Every single thing I've read about the guy this offseason has been awesome. I hope it transfers to the field.

CupidStunt
07-24-2010, 08:41 AM
I'm like others. Hated the pick but starting to love and believe in the guy. I RARELY change my mind on a pick without the guy proving it on the field, but everything -- every damn thing -- I've read, seen or heard of the guy is positive, often extremely positive. I have to admit to barely even thinking about him in the draft build-up, so on draft day it was like, "WTF?!" But simply watching his highlights or game tapes tells you a lot. It ain't Mountain West defenses he's running away from or otherwise clowning. Numerous draft picks including our very own top-5-once-in-a-decade prospect looked all kinds of silly trying to defend McC in the open field.

It's the total yardage I'm not sure about, but would anyone really be surprised if he moved the chains 6-8 times on opening MNF? Any time I think abour out 3rd-down offense, I think about questionable pass pro, a questionable QB and questionable outside WRs' seperation skills; McCluster running a shifty flag or quick slant route and getting open for the "easy" Cassel pass seems like the best outcome.

Brock
07-24-2010, 09:13 AM
I liked the pick. I like the pick. I will continue to like the pick.

Mr. Laz
07-24-2010, 10:02 AM
i wish more of our players were going to these types of camps.

CosmicPal
07-24-2010, 10:08 AM
i wish more of our players were going to these types of camps.

Only one guy missed the OTA's this season. That's pretty remarkable. Even more so, when you consider the one guy missing isn't going to be on our team.

From what I understand, most, if not all the players are already in or at least preparing to be training camp ready.

Don't be such a sourpuss- this is the BEST offseason this team has had in a very long time.

WilliamTheIrish
07-24-2010, 10:09 AM
What's his new name? McLackLuster? McThirddownLuster?

Trying to stay ahead of the midseason nicknames to be given.

rwalke10
07-24-2010, 10:19 AM
I'm like others. Hated the pick but starting to love and believe in the guy. I RARELY change my mind on a pick without the guy proving it on the field, but everything -- every damn thing -- I've read, seen or heard of the guy is positive, often extremely positive. I have to admit to barely even thinking about him in the draft build-up, so on draft day it was like, "WTF?!" But simply watching his highlights or game tapes tells you a lot. It ain't Mountain West defenses he's running away from or otherwise clowning. Numerous draft picks including our very own top-5-once-in-a-decade prospect looked all kinds of silly trying to defend McC in the open field.


Agreed. After doing a little digging on the guy afterwards, it makes you wonder how the others passed (missed?) a playmaker like this. Also makes one wonder much 'due dilligence' other teams do?? Now that they're both here, we have the scenario of those two going against each other day in day out in practice--that's gotta improve their play also.

Mr. Laz
07-24-2010, 10:21 AM
Only one guy missed the OTA's this season. That's pretty remarkable. Even more so, when you consider the one guy missing isn't going to be on our team.

From what I understand, most, if not all the players are already in or at least preparing to be training camp ready.

Don't be such a sourpuss- this is the BEST offseason this team has had in a very long time.
i'm not being a sourpuss ... OTA's aren't the same imo.

especially for WR,CB,RB even TE's

TheGuardian
07-24-2010, 10:22 AM
Agreed. After doing a little digging on the guy afterwards, it makes you wonder how the others passed (missed?) a playmaker like this. Also makes one wonder much 'due dilligence' other teams do?? Now that they're both here, we have the scenario of those two going against each other day in day out in practice--that's gotta improve their play also.

If he were 6' 210 he would have been a first rounder. Measurables play a big part in drafting.

I think Pioli going with character guys and guys who were captains and good guys off the field will pay off because you see the work ethic these guys have. That's what I am hoping anyway.

milkman
07-24-2010, 10:26 AM
Agreed. After doing a little digging on the guy afterwards, it makes you wonder how the others passed (missed?) a playmaker like this. Also makes one wonder much 'due dilligence' other teams do?? Now that they're both here, we have the scenario of those two going against each other day in day out in practice--that's gotta improve their play also.

LMAO

Serious?

Other teams don't do their due diligenge?

You mean like the SB Champion Saints?
Or the AFC Champion Colts?

Or playoff teams like the Vikings, the Packers, the Chargers, the Jets.

Yep, they all must be doing something wrong.

CosmicPal
07-24-2010, 10:26 AM
i'm not being a sourpuss ... OTA's aren't the same imo.

especially for WR,CB,RB even TE's

I agree that all guys should be doing this sort of stuff in the offseason. Isn't Bowe doing some sort of camp with other receivers like Fitzgerald?

A lot of these guys, particularly the lineman do something in the offseason to prepare improve their physique and their game. I was just alluding to the fact that every member of our team showed up to to OTA's which is not mandatory and that shows a lot of character for a team.

I also thought I read somewhere that Waters was doing something like this too and I was reminded of this while watching the new documentary on the band, Rush, and how Neil Peart took drumming lessons from some guru a couple of years ago. Even Neil Peart, arguably one of the best drummers in rock, wanted to look for ways to improve his skills.

Mr. Laz
07-24-2010, 10:36 AM
I agree that all guys should be doing this sort of stuff in the offseason. Isn't Bowe doing some sort of camp with other receivers like Fitzgerald?

A lot of these guys, particularly the lineman do something in the offseason to prepare improve their physique and their game. I was just alluding to the fact that every member of our team showed up to to OTA's which is not mandatory and that shows a lot of character for a team.

I also thought I read somewhere that Waters was doing something like this too and I was reminded of this while watching the new documentary on the band, Rush, and how Neil Peart took drumming lessons from some guru a couple of years ago. Even Neil Peart, arguably one of the best drummers in rock, wanted to look for ways to improve his skills.
ya ... we glad to hear about Bowe working at the camp with Fitz etc.

first year i've hear of Bowe doing that though ... maybe he did and we just didn't hear about that. imo Bowe is a primo candidate for these type camps.

milkman
07-24-2010, 10:40 AM
ya ... we glad to hear about Bowe working at the camp with Fitz etc.

first year i've hear of Bowe doing that though ... maybe he did and we just didn't hear about that. imo Bowe is a primo candidate for these type camps.

Actually, Bowe has worked with Fitzgerald before in the offseason, so this isn't new for him.

Dave Lane
07-24-2010, 11:20 AM
As strong as all the hate for Haley is on here I have to say I'm quietly becoming impressed with the direction Pioli and company are headed.

the Talking Can
07-24-2010, 12:10 PM
it's insane the commitment it takes to be even an average nfl player....

KCrockaholic
07-24-2010, 12:32 PM
Actually, Bowe has worked with Fitzgerald before in the offseason, so this isn't new for him.

Not according to Bowe and Larry.

If you can show me proof I might believe you. But This is the first time they've worked out.

QuikSsurfer
07-24-2010, 12:33 PM
I loved the pick.. but i'm an ole miss homer

rwalke10
07-24-2010, 12:55 PM
If he were 6' 210 he would have been a first rounder. Measurables play a big part in drafting.

I think Pioli going with character guys and guys who were captains and good guys off the field will pay off because you see the work ethic these guys have. That's what I am hoping anyway.

What I was talking about was some of the media types (supposedly) quoting teams about when McCluster posted a 4.58 40 time and said he would drop more in the rankings. Pioli said later they felt he played faster than that, so when they investigated they found he had a small injury slowing him down.

Measurables are important, but not everything. This administration seems to not place combine measurables at the very top, but rather game speed, personal makeup, integrity, etc.

rwalke10
07-24-2010, 01:05 PM
LMAO

Serious?

Other teams don't do their due diligenge?

You mean like the SB Champion Saints?
Or the AFC Champion Colts?

Or playoff teams like the Vikings, the Packers, the Chargers, the Jets.

Yep, they all must be doing something wrong.

Nope, sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't say they all were doing something wrong. I just questioned how much research other teams do. In other words, just how deep they go investigating potential draft picks.

I've never read any stories about NFL teams starting out a draft search with 2000 names like the Chiefs did last year.

As I stated in another reply, there was the story about McCluster where his 40 time was off a bit from where the 'analysts' thought it should be, and they were proclaiming he would drop in the draft as a result. Pioli stated he thought he played faster than that, so when they investigated they found he was coming off of a small injury which slowed him down. Stuff like that is what I was talking about. Do they investigate the guys character, his heart, or just use a spreadsheet to compare combine measurables?

Thig Lyfe
07-24-2010, 01:06 PM
I think it's pretty cool how players from different teams work out together and do these camps together. They're trying to up each others' game, and as a result the talent level of the entire league goes up, and games become that much more exciting and fun to watch. I mean, McCluster and Washington could very well end up going against each other in a real game situation, and McCluster will try to use what Washington taught him to beat him. That's a pretty cool aspect of the NFL that you never really think about.

ChiefMojo
07-24-2010, 01:14 PM
In all honesty McCluster wasn't passed over by anyone. He actually went a basically half of a round earlier than expected. Most saw McCluster as a late 2nd guy and we took him early 2nd.

I liked the pick from the beginning. I say that because I felt he was a excellent football player regardless of measurements. What this team has been sorely lacking is a big number of playmakers and McCluster was one of the most dynamic playmakers in this draft. I'm not scared of his size one bit. I guess I've been in the dream world of thinking what it would be like if the Chiefs had someone like Darren Sproles or Percy Harvin on roster... now we have that type of player and I'm so excited to see him perform!

wazu
07-24-2010, 01:19 PM
I mean, McCluster and Washington could very well end up going against each other in a real game situation, and McCluster will try to use what Washington taught him to beat him. That's a pretty cool aspect of the NFL that you never really think about.

Yeah, but I hope our guys don't help anybody from Denver or San Diego. Wait...that shouldn't be a problem.

Sanka
07-24-2010, 01:29 PM
Not according to Bowe and Larry.

If you can show me proof I might believe you. But This is the first time they've worked out.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/231285-2009-breakout-player-of-the-year-dwayne-bowe

LaChapelle
07-24-2010, 01:40 PM
It's a Chief's second rounder
come on
if he's stll on the team in 3 years it's a success

Sweet Daddy Hate
07-25-2010, 06:17 PM
If he turns out to be a stud, no one will lament the passing over of LB's in this draft.
At least I won't. There wasn't anyone that great anyway.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2010, 06:33 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/231285-2009-breakout-player-of-the-year-dwayne-bowe

Some guy on bleacher report said they worked out.

I don't at all see that as proof when most other sites I've found claim Dwayne Bowe working out with Fitz as a "surprise".

If you type in "Bowe Fitzgerald 2009" you will find little to nothing about them working out. Try 2010, and you will find a boat load of articles and quotes.

bevischief
07-25-2010, 06:39 PM
We are doomed...

KcMizzou
07-25-2010, 07:11 PM
I think it's pretty cool how players from different teams work out together and do these camps together. They're trying to up each others' game, and as a result the talent level of the entire league goes up, and games become that much more exciting and fun to watch. I mean, McCluster and Washington could very well end up going against each other in a real game situation, and McCluster will try to use what Washington taught him to beat him. That's a pretty cool aspect of the NFL that you never really think about.Agreed. There seems to be a high level of respect among the guys who are willing to come and put in the extra work.

It's encouraging that we have guys on the team that are doing these kind of things, not because they have too... just because they want to.

T-post Tom
07-25-2010, 09:14 PM
My glass is definately half-full right now. Got my fingers crossed for McCluster & Berry being in contention for 'Rookie of the Year' & the Chiefs getting at least one playoff game this coming post-season.

DaneMcCloud
07-25-2010, 10:36 PM
I liked the pick. I like the pick. I will continue to like the pick.

Ditto.

If he proves us all wrong, I'll still like the pick.

Playmakers are what bring championships.

DaneMcCloud
07-25-2010, 10:37 PM
My glass is definately half-full right now. Got my fingers crossed for McCluster & Berry being in contention for 'Rookie of the Year' & the Chiefs getting at least one playoff game this coming post-season.

The Chiefs will be lucky to be 7-9 this season and it's tenuous at best to pin the hopes of the 2010 Chiefs on two rookies.

This team has a long way to go in terms of personnel before it can consistently compete for the playoffs, let alone a championship.

A LONG way to go.

RockChalk
07-26-2010, 08:07 AM
The Chiefs will be lucky to be 7-9 this season and it's tenuous at best to pin the hopes of the 2010 Chiefs on two rookies.

This team has a long way to go in terms of personnel before it can consistently compete for the playoffs, let alone a championship.

A LONG way to go.

Agreed. But 7-9 will seem like 11-5 compared to how we've played the last decade. I'm not saying we, as fans, should settle for that. But 7-9 typically means they were competitive in most games.

At this point, I will take "competitive" and read it as a sign of improvement from the 2009 season.

King_Chief_Fan
07-26-2010, 08:51 AM
The Chiefs will be lucky to be 7-9 this season and it's tenuous at best to pin the hopes of the 2010 Chiefs on two rookies.

This team has a long way to go in terms of personnel before it can consistently compete for the playoffs, let alone a championship.

A LONG way to go.

that is obvious...ridiculous to think a 10 game win team in 3 years will be anything more than .500 and probably less. 2010, 2011 is still growing and developing. I hope we all have the patience for that.

boogblaster
07-26-2010, 08:59 AM
Mc Answertoeverything .. will lead the way ....

Deberg_1990
07-26-2010, 09:20 AM
The Chiefs will be lucky to be 7-9 this season and it's tenuous at best to pin the hopes of the 2010 Chiefs on two rookies.

This team has a long way to go in terms of personnel before it can consistently compete for the playoffs, let alone a championship.

A LONG way to go.

Agree 100%

The growth of the team hinges on these guys mainly:

Cassel, Cassel, Cassel x 1000
TyJack
Dorsey
Bowe
Berry
Albert
Charles
DJ and Hali
Flowers and Carr


Hey, at least we seem to have a core of players with alot of upside potential.