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CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 04:36 PM
Not sure if the Lounge is the right area for this but here goes...

I just found out I got the 4th overall pick in my redraft league. It's 6 pts for all TD's and ppr. Obviously CJ and ADP will be gone with the first two picks but what is everyones opinion on who follows them? Should I go with MJD or Ray Rice depending on who gets picked at #3 or do I go with Brees or Rodgers at the 4 spot?

I also think Gore will have a big year this year cause of the upgrades to the O-line and the fact that they get to play the Seahawks, Rams, and Cardinals twice along with the AFC West and our powerhouse run d :(

Our starting lineup requirements are 1 QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1 LB, 1DB, 1Flex (RB/WR/TE).

Any help would be appreciated!!

Thanks

FD
07-25-2010, 04:40 PM
There is no "right" answer to this question. Just research each guy, think about what will be available when you get to pick again, and ultimately go with your gut.

big nasty kcnut
07-25-2010, 04:40 PM
You should get peyton manning or Jamal charles

-King-
07-25-2010, 04:45 PM
I saw go O-line with that 4th pick. Gotta build from the trenches.

Rausch
07-25-2010, 04:46 PM
People pooh pooh me but the last two years i've gone WR with my first pick.

No, they don't score like a HB but after the top 3 (really 2, Moss and Johnson) there are very few low risk/high output guys.

Not only that but it seems like every year there's at least 2 rookies hitting the 1,000 yard mark running the ball. HB's drop off quick and new ones pop up often.

Mr. Arrowhead
07-25-2010, 05:03 PM
I would go whoever left, either MJD or Ray Rice

Rausch
07-25-2010, 05:30 PM
I would go whoever left, either MJD or Ray Rice

In my keeper league I protected MJD but I have to admit that I don't like the QB situation there.

rambleonthruthefog
07-25-2010, 05:31 PM
i usually succeed in my fantasy leagues. that being said, i always take a top tier qb if available. brees, manning or even rodgers. i wouldn't go rice or mjd. i'd grab a top tier WR over those two.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2010, 06:36 PM
I like MJD a lot. But Ray Rice is also a great player. Baltimore is going to have a great O this year, and the addition of Boldin should back the safeties off a little more often and allow Rice to break out more big runs.

If you go the QB route, then take Rodgers IMO. Nothing against Brees. Brees is amazing, but Rodger's upside is INCREDIBLE.

RJ
07-25-2010, 08:07 PM
I'd go best available RB in the 1st round (Ray Rice if he's there) and best available QB in round 2. Great QB's will still be there. RB's aren't the same in fantasy as they were a few years ago but you're still a step ahead if you've got at least one of the studs.

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 08:34 PM
In my keeper league I protected MJD but I have to admit that I don't like the QB situation there.

He's my keeper in my other league as well and I'm also a little worried. I figure if I do drop him there is nobody out there better as a 1st round replacement. All the other top 5-7 RBs will be kept as well.

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 08:38 PM
I'd go best available RB in the 1st round (Ray Rice if he's there) and best available QB in round 2. Great QB's will still be there. RB's aren't the same in fantasy as they were a few years ago but you're still a step ahead if you've got at least one of the studs.

Did I mention it's a 14 team league. I'm guessing that at least 8-10 QB's will be off the board by the time it's my pick in round 2 (6pts for passing TDs). I'd be looking at guys like Cutler, Kolb, E. Manning, or Palmer as my QB.

What looks better on paper...

Rice/MJD and Palmer
or
Rodgers and someone like Ronnie Brown???

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 08:41 PM
i usually succeed in my fantasy leagues. that being said, i always take a top tier qb if available. brees, manning or even rodgers. i wouldn't go rice or mjd. i'd grab a top tier WR over those two.

I've been leaning towards going QB at #4 only because of the fact that RBs are more prone to injury and you can usually pick up a few sleepers off waivers after the first few weeks.

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 08:43 PM
You should get peyton manning or Jamal charles

I could probably get both in that order as CBS and other websites have Charles a lot lower now that T. Jones and McCluster are in the mix.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2010, 08:45 PM
As crazy as it sounds, don't be afraid to Bye stack your roster.

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 08:48 PM
As crazy as it sounds, don't be afraid to Bye stack your roster.

I hear ya. I'd much rather take the lose one week than try to fill my roster week after week with "polished turds".

Pestilence
07-25-2010, 08:51 PM
it's 6 PTs for all TDs? Go with Rodgers. Think about it...MJD is good for what...like 14 TDs? Rodgers is going to throw for over 30. That's double the points for TDs.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2010, 08:54 PM
I hear ya. I'd much rather take the lose one week than try to fill my roster week after week with "polished turds".

Exactly. It's a smart business decision. Cause all you gotta do is get to the playoffs, once you're there, you will have the players to win and you don't have to worry about Bye weeks.

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 08:56 PM
it's 6 PTs for all TDs? Go with Rodgers. Think about it...MJD is good for what...like 14 TDs? Rodgers is going to throw for over 30. That's double the points for TDs.

It's safe to say all of the top 14 QB's will throw for more than 14 TDs. For me it's more a question of the difference in fantasy points between the top QB to 14th QB as opposed to the top RB to 14th RB.

Ebolapox
07-25-2010, 08:58 PM
I'd highly consider rodgers. that's just me, though, and I haven't played FF in a long while.

CanadianChief
07-25-2010, 09:06 PM
If I had to pick today my list would be...

1. Rodgers
2. MJD
3. Rice
4. Brees

Should I even bother looking at the ff playoff weeks (14-16) for matchups? That's what screwed me over in last years playoffs. I was stuck playing a guy who had Rice go off for 40 plus points against some shit ass run defense.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2010, 09:11 PM
Funny thing is.

Last year I won my league.

My opening day roster was TOTALLY different from the roster I had when I won the Championship.

It comes down to staying active and knowing when a waiver wire guy is about to break out ala Miles Austin.

I picked up Austin the week he played the Chiefs. I traded for Jamaal Charles the week before he started his first game.

Just stay active and you will do good.

RJ
07-25-2010, 09:27 PM
Did I mention it's a 14 team league. I'm guessing that at least 8-10 QB's will be off the board by the time it's my pick in round 2 (6pts for passing TDs). I'd be looking at guys like Cutler, Kolb, E. Manning, or Palmer as my QB.

What looks better on paper...

Rice/MJD and Palmer
or
Rodgers and someone like Ronnie Brown???


I'd still go RB/QB. Your QB in round 2 will be better than your RB in round 2.

A lot of it though just depends on your league. I've won my primary (12 team league) more than any other 2 owners combined over the years, but a lot of that has to do with me understanding the other owners. Who likes what team, who always reaches, who always takes a D too early.....they don't know that I have a really good memory :)

RJ
07-25-2010, 09:29 PM
Funny thing is.

Last year I won my league.

My opening day roster was TOTALLY different from the roster I had when I won the Championship.

It comes down to staying active and knowing when a waiver wire guy is about to break out ala Miles Austin.

I picked up Austin the week he played the Chiefs. I traded for Jamaal Charles the week before he started his first game.

Just stay active and you will do good.

I hated my main team after the draft last year. I think I started a thread about it. But I still ended up winning the league.

Basically, I'm more obsessive about stupid shit like fantasy football than the other guys I play with.

KCrockaholic
07-25-2010, 09:35 PM
I hated my main team after the draft last year. I think I started a thread about it. But I still ended up winning the league.

Basically, I'm more obsessive about stupid shit like fantasy football than the other guys I play with.

I must admit. I cheated a little bit. I invited a couple Raiders and Broncos fans to my league last year to gain an advantage.

I figured Chiefs fan knowledge>Donkey Knowledge>Faider Knowledge

And I was right :)

CanadianChief
07-26-2010, 01:05 PM
I must admit. I cheated a little bit. I invited a couple Raiders and Broncos fans to my league last year to gain an advantage.

I figured Chiefs fan knowledge>Donkey Knowledge>Faider Knowledge

And I was right :)

That's a huge advantage. One of my buddies is a huge Eagles homer and he ended up with the 13th pick this year. I already know he's going to go with D. Jackson and then probably McNabb with his second round pick. I make fun of him every year and yet last year he won the whole damn league!!!

Pestilence
07-26-2010, 01:05 PM
Is it a PPR league?

CanadianChief
07-26-2010, 02:27 PM
Is it a PPR league?

yes...and we also only have to start 1 RB. Our flex can be a 2nd RB, 3rd WR, or a 2nd TE.

I think it's going to be extremely difficult to find three quality WRs this year...especially in a ppr league.

Last year I went RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, QB and did pretty good. I'm definitely holding off on a TE this year as there are more quality TEs than ever before.

on a side note...the only time I've ever won one of my fantasy football leagues was when I took Payton Manning in the middle of the first round a few years ago.

rambleonthruthefog
07-26-2010, 02:33 PM
yes...and we also only have to start 1 RB. Our flex can be a 2nd RB, 3rd WR, or a 2nd TE.

I think it's going to be extremely difficult to find three quality WRs this year...especially in a ppr league.

Last year I went RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, QB and did pretty good. I'm definitely holding off on a TE this year as there are more quality TEs than ever before.

on a side note...the only time I've ever won one of my fantasy football leagues was when I took Payton Manning in the middle of the first round a few years ago.

all the more reason to not go RB in with the 4th pick.

Cave Johnson
07-26-2010, 02:40 PM
PPR plus only 1 mandatory RB start = draft Rice/MJD. Preferably Rice, but I imagine he goes at 3. In a PPR format, I'd consider Rice over AP/AD. You'd be at a severe disadvantage rolling out a R2 RB.

Btw, you didn't go to the '03 Bills game by any chance? We sat next to a couple of guys from Quebec that got my gf at the time drunk on cognac .

CanadianChief
07-26-2010, 03:32 PM
PPR plus only 1 mandatory RB start = draft Rice/MJD. Preferably Rice, but I imagine he goes at 3. In a PPR format, I'd consider Rice over AP/AD. You'd be at a severe disadvantage rolling out a R2 RB.

Btw, you didn't go to the '03 Bills game by any chance? We sat next to a couple of guys from Quebec that got my gf at the time drunk on cognac .

That was me!!! She said you guys like to swing!!! :)

Who is AD? Is AP/AD the new ADP???

I would have thought the because we only need to start one RB that it puts less value on the RBs and more on WRs and QBs?

CanadianChief
07-26-2010, 03:39 PM
PPR plus only 1 mandatory RB start = draft Rice/MJD. Preferably Rice, but I imagine he goes at 3. In a PPR format, I'd consider Rice over AP/AD. You'd be at a severe disadvantage rolling out a R2 RB.

Btw, you didn't go to the '03 Bills game by any chance? We sat next to a couple of guys from Quebec that got my gf at the time drunk on cognac .

My buddy is picking at #3 and he's pretty high on Rodgers since our QBs get 6pts for all TDs. I might have Rice and MJD both sitting there at #4.

You're not worried about McGahee vulturing all the goal line tds again this year? If I did have to make a decision at #4 between MJD and Rice I think I'd have to pick MJD only because I feel he's safer and doesn't have any competition from other backs stealing his carries. I do think Rice has a higher ceiling and Baltimores offense should only be better this year with Boldin in the mix.

chop
07-26-2010, 03:56 PM
Fantasy football magazines are a waste of money. There are a lot of people out there (sports writers) that think they know what they are talking about but most of them do not. They may be pretty good with the early rounds of the draft but lack insight on the middle to later rounds. These are the rounds that win you the championships. Fantasyguru.com is a pretty good site to get info on players you should get in the later rounds.