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Ebolapox
08-10-2010, 02:52 PM
This is the matchup you all pined for... The winner of the Herolympics (Batman) vs. the winner of the Villainlympics (Hannibal Lecter)!

Will good overcome, or will evil reign supreme?

Batman
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Hannibal Lecter
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loochy
08-10-2010, 02:53 PM
Bam! First vote bitches!

Hannibal: 1
Scratchy Voiced Fake Muscle Suit Homo: 0

Ebolapox
08-10-2010, 02:53 PM
Note: this poll will be open for an extra day due to the ferocity of the battle that will likely ensue.

beach tribe
08-10-2010, 02:56 PM
Hannibal eats his bat penis with some farvah beans, an a nice chianti.

Then Batman cuts his own face off.

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 02:58 PM
Batman.....easily.

Pants
08-10-2010, 03:06 PM
Is this a joke?

Ebolapox
08-10-2010, 03:09 PM
Is this a joke?

absolutely not.

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 03:18 PM
Batman.....easily.

Negative.

Hannibal eats him the day before batman figures out who the killer really is....

ClevelandBronco
08-10-2010, 03:20 PM
Where's the Tim Tebow option?

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 03:21 PM
Negative.

Hannibal eats him the day before batman figures out who the killer really is....

Ummm......no.

loochy
08-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Ummm......no.

Ummmm....YEAH.

Hannibal knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne. He uses that info to destroy Wayne and drives him to suicide.

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Ummmm....YEAH.

Hannibal knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne. He uses that info to destroy Wayne and drives him to suicide.

If Hannibal knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne.....then Batman knows that Hannibal is the killer.

ArrowheadHawk
08-10-2010, 03:27 PM
Good always wins. :rolleyes: At least that's what I tell my daughters.

loochy
08-10-2010, 03:29 PM
If Hannibal knows that Batman is Bruce Wayne.....then Batman knows that Hannibal is the killer.

Right...but that doesn't help Batman against Hannibal. Besides, Batman doesn't kill people. Instead, he beats them up and gives them to the police, allowing Hannibal to continue his reign of infectious evil.

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 03:30 PM
Right...but that doesn't help Batman against Hannibal. Besides, Batman doesn't kill people. Instead, he beats them up and gives them to the police, allowing Hannibal to continue his reign of infectious evil.

:rolleyes:

loochy
08-10-2010, 03:33 PM
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: @ your :rolleyes:

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 03:39 PM
:rolleyes:

loochy's got ya on this one...

Just like The Incredible Hulk (Ed Norton), if batman ever manages to luck out and capture hannibal, he'll just turn him over to the police... and just like every other major badguy batman faces, they will escape and start being bad again...

Hannibal wins...

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 03:41 PM
No.

loochy
08-10-2010, 03:48 PM
loochy's got ya on this one...

Just like The Incredible Hulk (Ed Norton), if batman ever manages to luck out and capture hannibal, he'll just turn him over to the police... and just like every other major badguy batman faces, they will escape and start being bad again...

Hannibal wins...

CONSIDER THIS IN YOUR VOTE PEOPLE....consider this.

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 03:50 PM
No.

Yes.

Guru
08-10-2010, 03:51 PM
CONSIDER THIS IN YOUR VOTE PEOPLE....consider this.

Doesn't matter. Batman will continue to catch him.

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 03:56 PM
Doesn't matter. Batman will continue to catch him.

Catch him, perhaps....

Prevent the chaos and killings? not even close....

jojomontana
08-10-2010, 04:01 PM
Psh. I vote for Wolverine.

TheGuardian
08-10-2010, 04:03 PM
loochy's got ya on this one...

Just like The Incredible Hulk (Ed Norton), if batman ever manages to luck out and capture hannibal, he'll just turn him over to the police... and just like every other major badguy batman faces, they will escape and start being bad again...

Hannibal wins...

That's one thing I always hated about Batman. He keeps catching the same super criminals, putting them in Arkham, then they just escape.

If he just kilt em on the spot, bam. Done and over with. That's why I always liked the Punisher as a "super hero". He never dealt with the same guy over and over if he could get within a gun shot of him.

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 04:13 PM
Catch him, perhaps....

Prevent the chaos and killings? not even close....

This is about who would beat who. You just said that Batman would catch him everytime.

If it was Batman vs. Joker....would you vote for the Joker winning because he would keep causing chaos?

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 04:29 PM
This is about who would beat who. You just said that Batman would catch him everytime.

If it was Batman vs. Joker....would you vote for the Joker winning because he would keep causing chaos?

Yes.

Jokers goal in life = Create Chaos= Check

Batmans goal in life= Stop Chaos= Failed

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 04:34 PM
Yes.

Jokers goal in life = Create Chaos= Check

Batmans goal in life= Stop Chaos= Failed

Batman doesn't control Arkham Asylum. He does his job.....catching the bad guys.

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 04:37 PM
Batman doesn't control Arkham Asylum. He does his job.....catching the bad guys.

Isn't part of his job to prevent crime from happening, and not just merely cleaning up afterwards?

loochy
08-10-2010, 04:37 PM
Batman doesn't control Arkham Asylum. He does his job.....catching the bad guys.

If he wasn't such a wuss he'd go ahead and chop their heads off...

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 04:41 PM
If he wasn't such a wuss he'd go ahead and chop their heads off...

And he wouldn't be a true "Hero".

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 04:41 PM
Isn't part of his job to prevent crime from happening, and not just merely cleaning up afterwards?

FFS. He puts away the criminals.....now he's supposed to run the asylum and make sure they don't get back out?

KurtCobain
08-10-2010, 04:42 PM
Indiana Jones would pwn them both.

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 04:42 PM
If he wasn't such a wuss he'd go ahead and chop their heads off...

But batmans fundamental flaw, and the "flaw" of all good guys is shown with your statement....

If the good guy cuts off the bad guys head it turns said good guy into a villain, even if it is for the overall good...

Good guys have to follow rules, laws, and ethics..


Bad guys fucking murder and eat people....

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 04:43 PM
FFS. He puts away the criminals.....now he's supposed to run the asylum and make sure they don't get back out?

That's what i'm saying... It'd be really hard for batman to beat hannibal... because hannibal can use other people to help him win...

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 04:45 PM
That's what i'm saying... It'd be really hard for batman to beat hannibal... because hannibal can use other people to help him win...

And this is why Good always wins......

Sofa King
08-10-2010, 04:53 PM
And this is why Good always wins......

always?

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/869/869841/no-country-for-old-men-20071109112615554_1209363673.jpg

loochy
08-10-2010, 05:00 PM
And this is why Good always wins......

always?

http://www.jewsonfirst.org/images/obama8.jpg

SDChiefs
08-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Im just gonna say damn. So close to a Batman/Joker final. I voted for Joker BTW. And Batman here. Alfred would kick lechters ass while rubbing Batmans shoulders.

loochy
08-10-2010, 05:11 PM
...it looks like Hannibal is making a comeback...

rockymtnchief
08-10-2010, 05:21 PM
Just as Hannibal talks Batman into eating his own tongue and killing himself, Pestilence runs in and yells "I will fucking kill you".

Hannibal runs. Thus making it a draw.

Pestilence
08-10-2010, 05:38 PM
Just as Hannibal talks Batman into eating his own tongue and killing himself, Pestilence runs in and yells "I will fucking kill you".

Hannibal runs. Thus making it a draw.

/Thread

/Poll

/Game

Buck
08-10-2010, 05:40 PM
Batman doesn't kill people?

Bitch please.

teedubya
08-10-2010, 05:45 PM
Fucking Jodie Foster caught Hannibal Lector... of course Batman could. I voted for Lector though.

rockymtnchief
08-10-2010, 05:48 PM
Fucking Jodie Foster caught Hannibal Lector... of course Batman could. I voted for Lector though.

Jodie met him after he'd been caught.

SDChiefs
08-10-2010, 05:50 PM
Jodie met him after he'd been caught.

She caught the "would you fuck me, guy". Buffalo Bill I think.

KcMizzou
08-10-2010, 08:52 PM
Gotta go with The Goddamn Batman.

luv
08-10-2010, 10:43 PM
Lecter would be all over Batman's psychological issues. Brains over brawn.

Shaid
08-10-2010, 11:12 PM
Lector would be too interested in "the challenge" that Batman presented. I don't think he kills him. Just messes with him and puts him into some impossible to win situation, which Batman inevitably figures out a way to win anyways.

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 08:25 AM
Just as Hannibal talks Batman into eating his own tongue and killing himself, Pestilence runs in and yells "I will ****ing kill you".

Hannibal runs. Thus making it a draw.




/Thread

/Poll

/Game


So batman's DEAD, and Hannibal "runs off" and you guys think this is a draw still?

Frazod
08-11-2010, 09:04 AM
She caught the "would you fuck me, guy". Buffalo Bill I think.

Will Graham caught Lechter. Barely.

MOhillbilly
08-11-2010, 09:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunter_(film)

Ebolapox
08-11-2010, 09:08 AM
Will Graham caught Lechter. Barely.

yep. and by complete blind fucking luck, if memory serves.

Frazod
08-11-2010, 09:29 AM
yep. and by complete blind fucking luck, if memory serves.

If only poor Hannibal had made of mental note of the location of the sweetbreads instead of writing it down.

Of course, he wasn't really the "villain" in Silence of the Lambs; he was a mentor to the protagonist - sort of a twisted Obiwan Kenobi. Buffalo Bill was the villain.

And unless someone's in his way during an act of self-preservation, he basically only kills annoying douchebags and clods. All you have to do to not get eaten is be respectful in passing and leave him the hell alone.

My kind of psychopath. :D

Pants
08-11-2010, 09:38 AM
Batman would put a permanent mask on Lechter and skullfuck him to his satisfaction. Seriously, if Batman's mind can defeat a phobia inducing gas, it can definitely defeat mind tricks (he has experience with the Riddle, FFS). This isn't even close, Batman wouldn't even break a sweat on this one.

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Batman would put a permanent mask on Lechter and skull**** him to his satisfaction. Seriously, if Batman's mind can defeat a phobia inducing gas, it can definitely defeat mind tricks (he has experience with the Riddle, FFS). This isn't even close, Batman wouldn't even break a sweat on this one.

wait a minute... you think The fucking Riddler is > than Hannibal???

Pants
08-11-2010, 09:47 AM
wait a minute... you think The ****ing Riddler is > than Hannibal???

Fuck yeah. What exactly would Hannibal do to Batman? Laughable. Batman's mind is stronger than his body, his armor or his gadgets. Batman's mind has always been his forte.

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 09:49 AM
**** yeah. What exactly would Hannibal do to Batman? Laughable. Batman's mind is stronger than his body, his armor or his gadgets. Batman's mind has always been his forte.

Hannibal would kill batman when he is Bruce Wayne, not batman...


game over....

Pants
08-11-2010, 09:54 AM
Hannibal would kill batman when he is Bruce Wayne, not batman...


game over....

Yeah, OK and than Hannibal would fly away using his superpowers. That scenario is just as believable.

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 09:58 AM
Yeah, OK and than Hannibal would fly away using his superpowers. That scenario is just as believable.

What's unbelievable about it? hell, Joker walked right into a party, in the Wayne skyscraper, and demanded batman.... had he known who batman really was (you can bet hannibal would find out) he could have ended him right there...

Pants
08-11-2010, 10:09 AM
What's unbelievable about it? hell, Joker walked right into a party, in the Wayne skyscraper, and demanded batman.... had he known who batman really was (you can bet hannibal would find out) he could have ended him right there...

I love how you present the notion that Hannibal would know who Batman really is as fact. Shit is not happening. Bruce Wayne is a genius with a titanium will power, he is not susceptible to stupid mind ticks and games. Like I said, Batman's strongest suit is his mental capacity, that's his superpower so to speak. Nobody beats Batman in a game of chess.

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 10:24 AM
I love how you present the notion that Hannibal would know who Batman really is as fact. Shit is not happening. Bruce Wayne is a genius with a titanium will power, he is not susceptible to stupid mind ticks and games. Like I said, Batman's strongest suit is his mental capacity, that's his superpower so to speak. Nobody beats Batman in a game of chess.

Bruce would have gave himself up if not for Harvey Dent taking the heat....

That shows me that a bunch of nobody citizens could get to bruce... surely, someone with a superior mind, such as hannibal, would be able to crack batman...

Hell, Hannibal solved crimes from a jail cell using only a few case files... crimes that detectives couldn't....

Pants
08-11-2010, 10:38 AM
Bruce would have gave himself up if not for Harvey Dent taking the heat....

That shows me that a bunch of nobody citizens could get to bruce... surely, someone with a superior mind, such as hannibal, would be able to crack batman...

Hell, Hannibal solved crimes from a jail cell using only a few case files... crimes that detectives couldn't....

A bunch of nobody citizens could get to Batman? Joke got to Batman by turning people against Batman using fear. Unless Hannibal starts employing mass scare tactics (like killing random people on TV and blowing shit up all over the place) to turn the citizens who Bruce is trying to protect against him, shit is not happening. I don't think large scale murder is Hannibal's modus operandi. I think Hannibal is actually the perfect match-up for Batman as he plays right into Batman's strengths.

patteeu
08-11-2010, 12:06 PM
Good heavens, Hannibal Lector couldn't even defeat Jody Foster and some of you expect him to best Batman? Really?

Pants
08-11-2010, 12:09 PM
Good heavens, Hannibal Lector couldn't even defeat Jody Foster and some of you expect him to best Batman? Really?

LMAO

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 01:05 PM
Good heavens, Hannibal Lector couldn't even defeat Jody Foster and some of you expect him to best Batman? Really?

I'll help you out. Knowing what movie you're referencing usually helps your side of the arguement.



The Silence of the Lambs (1991) plot summary
A serial killer known as Buffalo Bill is murdering women, and even worse, leaving them partially skinned. FBI guru Jack Crawford enlists trainee Clarice Starling to go to Hannibal Lecter, an infamous serial killer and cannibal himself, in an attempt to get information on Buffalo Bill's identity. Therein, Hannibal and Clarice form a strange "quid pro qou" relationship, in which he offers information on her case in exchange for personal information about herself. In time he leads her closer and closer to the way she catches the serial killer, who has, at this time, kidnapped a senator's daughter, sending the urgency of the case skyrocketing. While in custody to offer information to the senator herself, Hannibal kills two security guards and escapes ingeniously by wearing one of the dead men's faces. Clarice finally realizes that Buffalo Bill is skinning the murdered women in order to make himself a woman suit out of real women, and accidently goes to his house while attempting to get information on his identity. She gets caught in the basement with him in the dark after discovering the senator's daughter alive and shoots and kills him. After the ordeal, she is promoted to FBI agent. She then gets a call from Hannibal Lecter, who is abroad and about to make another kill: His nemesis, the doctor at the prison where he was held for eight years.




I guess i missed the part where he wasn't already in jail when they met.... a jail which he later escapes...

JohninGpt
08-11-2010, 01:11 PM
Hannibal would eat Batman's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Rain Man
08-11-2010, 01:12 PM
Good heavens, Hannibal Lector couldn't even defeat Jody Foster and some of you expect him to best Batman? Really?

But then again no one ever shot a president to impress Batman, so who's really more powerful?

Mile High Mania
08-11-2010, 01:16 PM
Good heavens, Hannibal Lector couldn't even defeat Jody Foster and some of you expect him to best Batman? Really?

I guess I missed the scene where HL was captured by Foster.

GordonGekko
08-11-2010, 01:42 PM
There are two ways to approach this.
1) If the two were put in a ring to settle it or...
2) They were left to their own devices and settled it in fictional reality

either way Batman wins, but in scenario one it is over instantly. But in scenario 2 HL has opportunity to showcase his talents and perhaps gets away with eating Alfred or something. But in the end Batman gets his man.

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 01:52 PM
There are two ways to approach this.
1) If the two were put in a ring to settle it or...
2) They were left to their own devices and settled it in fictional reality

either way Batman wins, but in scenario one it is over instantly. But in scenario 2 HL has opportunity to showcase his talents and perhaps gets away with eating Alfred or something. But in the end Batman gets his man.

Why?

i understand your 2 theories... but you only offered two theories, and you practically dismissed your own second one by giving absolutely no reasoning behind batman winning.

and theory 1 is basically set up to automatically take away all of hannibals strengths... it is in fact, a theory set up to cripple one guy and help the other...

Obviously, you're for batman, i get that.


Why not take my theory...


A game of the minds. who could find out whose true identity first. in which case, Hannibal wins... My reasoning, hannibals job was to find out who killers were by only using evidence. in which case he can surely find out who batman is. i mean, batman uses million dollar vehicles etc, and is only in Gotham... and the guy is athletic and therefore probably younger....

Batman goes off face to face meetings, video tapes, etc.... none of which hannibal would be willing to partake in...

Obviously, the advantage of the whole battle goes to who can find out the true identity first, which is hannibal.

Pants
08-11-2010, 02:20 PM
Why?

i understand your 2 theories... but you only offered two theories, and you practically dismissed your own second one by giving absolutely no reasoning behind batman winning.

and theory 1 is basically set up to automatically take away all of hannibals strengths... it is in fact, a theory set up to cripple one guy and help the other...

Obviously, you're for batman, i get that.


Why not take my theory...


A game of the minds. who could find out whose true identity first. in which case, Hannibal wins... My reasoning, hannibals job was to find out who killers were by only using evidence. in which case he can surely find out who batman is. i mean, batman uses million dollar vehicles etc, and is only in Gotham... and the guy is athletic and therefore probably younger....

Batman goes off face to face meetings, video tapes, etc.... none of which hannibal would be willing to partake in...

Obviously, the advantage of the whole battle goes to who can find out the true identity first, which is hannibal.

Hannibal Lecter is a freaking psychiatrist and a psycho cannibal serial killer. He can profile other serial killers because he's intimately familiar with the mindset. OOOOOOOOH what a scary power he possesses, Batman would stand no chance against him.

Please.

loochy
08-11-2010, 02:42 PM
Hannibal Lecter is a freaking psychiatrist and a psycho cannibal serial killer. He can profile other serial killers because he's intimately familiar with the mindset. OOOOOOOOH what a scary power he possesses, Batman would stand no chance against him.

Please.

Batman dresses up LIKE A FREAKING BAT FOR GOD'S SAKE! A BAT! He and his enemies have a little kiddy costume party where they all dress up and pretend to be scary. Wooooh look at me, I'm a scarecrow! No no no I'm a clown! Wait guys...I'll pretend to be a penguin today! Ubergay. Well guess what? There ARE people out there like Hannibal and that IS scary.

Pants
08-11-2010, 02:58 PM
Batman dresses up LIKE A FREAKING BAT FOR GOD'S SAKE! A BAT! He and his enemies have a little kiddy costume party where they all dress up and pretend to be scary. Wooooh look at me, I'm a scarecrow! No no no I'm a clown! Wait guys...I'll pretend to be a penguin today! Ubergay. Well guess what? There ARE people out there like Hannibal and that IS scary.

What the hell does any of that have to do with anything? We're pitting the 2 vs each other in a HYPOTHETICAL situation. The competition is not "who's more likely to exist in real life". Like I said, Batman would make Hannibal his personal gimp that would roam the basement of his huge mansion.

blaise
08-11-2010, 03:04 PM
Batman's kind of a dork. Always with the whining, "I don't know if I want to be a hero. Maybe I'll quit. I'm so conflicted. People don't understand me." Just do it or don't man. Shut up otherwise. You remind me of Favre.

Ebolapox
08-11-2010, 03:36 PM
Good heavens, Hannibal Lector couldn't even defeat Jody Foster and some of you expect him to best Batman? Really?

when did they ever go up against each other?

answer: they didn't. faulty logic 0, actual events from movie 1.

Guru
08-11-2010, 03:36 PM
Batman's kind of a dork. Always with the whining, "I don't know if I want to be a hero. Maybe I'll quit. I'm so conflicted. People don't understand me." Just do it or don't man. Shut up otherwise. You remind me of Favre.Not really. No, not at all. Wayne wouldn't make that shit public like Favre does. Once Wayne makes that decision it is done.

Funny, I could see Favre getting up from a hit and saying, "I'm Batman." ROFL

Ebolapox
08-11-2010, 03:48 PM
let me present a clear, reasoned response for why I believe lecter would win this fight.

it isn't his derangement that wins him this battle (if you've read any of the books that absolutely blow the movies out of the water, you'd know he's not truly deranged). it isn't his razor-sharp intellect (we're talking an IQ in the 180-190 range). it isn't his mental fortitude (the event in which he lost his sister mischa broke him as a child, and he was turned forever into a psychopath, yet one who absolutely blends in).

no, the reason he wins this battle is due to his absolute, unbreaking calmness in the face of battle. when the joker proved unbreakable, batman lost his cool and slammed him into the wall at the police station. lecter, who possesses greater than expected strength, maintains absolute normal vital signs (blood pressure and pulse) while eating somebody's face off of their skull. whilst being tortured by mason verger's goons, he simply visits his memory palace in his mind and feels NO pain at all.

you batman fans are looking at this all wrong... batman catches criminals that are obviously breaking the law... lecter goes about in shadows--he somehow blended into florence, italy's society while having six fingers on his left hand, a trait that EVERYBODY knew of. he has a regal bearing (his father was a count, making him of aristocratic heritage) and doesn't kill unless you cross him.

batman, on the other hand, would not know where lecter was hiding (in open society, as it where) and would have no answer for lecter. batman clearly has some issues with his daddy's dying young. if you'll recall, lecter used exactly this type of issue to twist around clarice starling. lecter would more than likely make bruce wayne wish he'd never been born, right as he's using his skull-saw to cut open the way to his brain. he'd cut a piece off and saute' it for bruce to eat himself, and would then enjoy his wine while listening to Bach's Goldberg Variations (likely number two).

Sofa King
08-11-2010, 03:52 PM
let me present a clear, reasoned response for why I believe lecter would win this fight.

it isn't his derangement that wins him this battle (if you've read any of the books that absolutely blow the movies out of the water, you'd know he's not truly deranged). it isn't his razor-sharp intellect (we're talking an IQ in the 180-190 range). it isn't his mental fortitude (the event in which he lost his sister mischa broke him as a child, and he was turned forever into a psychopath, yet one who absolutely blends in).

no, the reason he wins this battle is due to his absolute, unbreaking calmness in the face of battle. when the joker proved unbreakable, batman lost his cool and slammed him into the wall at the police station. lecter, who possesses greater than expected strength, maintains absolute normal vital signs (blood pressure and pulse) while eating somebody's face off of their skull. whilst being tortured by mason verger's goons, he simply visits his memory palace in his mind and feels NO pain at all.

you batman fans are looking at this all wrong... batman catches criminals that are obviously breaking the law... lecter goes about in shadows--he somehow blended into florence, italy's society while having six fingers on his left hand, a trait that EVERYBODY knew of. he has a regal bearing (his father was a count, making him of aristocratic heritage) and doesn't kill unless you cross him.

batman, on the other hand, would not know where lecter was hiding (in open society, as it where) and would have no answer for lecter. batman clearly has some issues with his daddy's dying young. if you'll recall, lecter used exactly this type of issue to twist around clarice starling. lecter would more than likely make bruce wayne wish he'd never been born, right as he's using his skull-saw to cut open the way to his brain. he'd cut a piece off and saute' it for bruce to eat himself, and would then enjoy his wine while listening to Bach's Goldberg Variations (likely number two).

Boom.

/thread

Pants
08-11-2010, 04:17 PM
let me present a clear, reasoned response for why I believe lecter would win this fight.

it isn't his derangement that wins him this battle (if you've read any of the books that absolutely blow the movies out of the water, you'd know he's not truly deranged). it isn't his razor-sharp intellect (we're talking an IQ in the 180-190 range). it isn't his mental fortitude (the event in which he lost his sister mischa broke him as a child, and he was turned forever into a psychopath, yet one who absolutely blends in).

no, the reason he wins this battle is due to his absolute, unbreaking calmness in the face of battle. when the joker proved unbreakable, batman lost his cool and slammed him into the wall at the police station. lecter, who possesses greater than expected strength, maintains absolute normal vital signs (blood pressure and pulse) while eating somebody's face off of their skull. whilst being tortured by mason verger's goons, he simply visits his memory palace in his mind and feels NO pain at all.

you batman fans are looking at this all wrong... batman catches criminals that are obviously breaking the law... lecter goes about in shadows--he somehow blended into florence, italy's society while having six fingers on his left hand, a trait that EVERYBODY knew of. he has a regal bearing (his father was a count, making him of aristocratic heritage) and doesn't kill unless you cross him.

batman, on the other hand, would not know where lecter was hiding (in open society, as it where) and would have no answer for lecter. batman clearly has some issues with his daddy's dying young. if you'll recall, lecter used exactly this type of issue to twist around clarice starling. lecter would more than likely make bruce wayne wish he'd never been born, right as he's using his skull-saw to cut open the way to his brain. he'd cut a piece off and saute' it for bruce to eat himself, and would then enjoy his wine while listening to Bach's Goldberg Variations (likely number two).

Oh, so we're using different iterations of characters now? I'd like to use the Batman from Batman: The Animated Series - a stone cold machine with no daddy issues or any other psychological baggage. Shit, even in the Nolan franchise, once he goes through the Ra's al Ghul's school, he becomes the definition of stoicism. Batman's intellect and mental fortitude has been his main weapon since his inception as he has no superpowers.

Your boy's best weapon is rendered useless against Batman. Don't bring a spoon to a gun fight, son.

loochy
08-11-2010, 04:18 PM
let me present a clear, reasoned response for why I believe lecter would win this fight.

it isn't his derangement that wins him this battle (if you've read any of the books that absolutely blow the movies out of the water, you'd know he's not truly deranged). it isn't his razor-sharp intellect (we're talking an IQ in the 180-190 range). it isn't his mental fortitude (the event in which he lost his sister mischa broke him as a child, and he was turned forever into a psychopath, yet one who absolutely blends in).

no, the reason he wins this battle is due to his absolute, unbreaking calmness in the face of battle. when the joker proved unbreakable, batman lost his cool and slammed him into the wall at the police station. lecter, who possesses greater than expected strength, maintains absolute normal vital signs (blood pressure and pulse) while eating somebody's face off of their skull. whilst being tortured by mason verger's goons, he simply visits his memory palace in his mind and feels NO pain at all.

you batman fans are looking at this all wrong... batman catches criminals that are obviously breaking the law... lecter goes about in shadows--he somehow blended into florence, italy's society while having six fingers on his left hand, a trait that EVERYBODY knew of. he has a regal bearing (his father was a count, making him of aristocratic heritage) and doesn't kill unless you cross him.

batman, on the other hand, would not know where lecter was hiding (in open society, as it where) and would have no answer for lecter. batman clearly has some issues with his daddy's dying young. if you'll recall, lecter used exactly this type of issue to twist around clarice starling. lecter would more than likely make bruce wayne wish he'd never been born, right as he's using his skull-saw to cut open the way to his brain. he'd cut a piece off and saute' it for bruce to eat himself, and would then enjoy his wine while listening to Bach's Goldberg Variations (likely number two).

Suck it Batman...you dumb emotional jock.

Pants
08-11-2010, 04:30 PM
Suck it Batman...you dumb emotional jock.

:facepalm:

loochy
08-11-2010, 05:13 PM
Don't bring a spoon to a gun fight, son.

Don't bring a bat either.

Pants
08-11-2010, 05:23 PM
Don't bring a bat either.

Aight, that was pretty funny.

Ebolapox
08-11-2010, 05:48 PM
Oh, so we're using different iterations of characters now? I'd like to use the Batman from Batman: The Animated Series - a stone cold machine with no daddy issues or any other psychological baggage. Shit, even in the Nolan franchise, once he goes through the Ra's al Ghul's school, he becomes the definition of stoicism. Batman's intellect and mental fortitude has been his main weapon since his inception as he has no superpowers.

Your boy's best weapon is rendered useless against Batman. Don't bring a spoon to a gun fight, son.

every part of what I posted was in the movies, if mentioned VERY briefly.

his mental fortitude broke down when he was interrogating the joker in the police station. you know, when given the choice between saving the DA and his lady love?

yeah, you're bringing a spoon as well, hoss.

SDChiefs
08-11-2010, 05:50 PM
every part of what I posted was in the movies, if mentioned VERY briefly.

his mental fortitude broke down when he was interrogating the joker in the police station. you know, when given the choice between saving the DA and his lady love?

yeah, you're bringing a spoon as well, hoss.

But time was of the essence. He could have just stood there calm, cool, and collected until they both blew up. He did what he had to do to get the job done. Just like he would with Hannibal.

Ebolapox
08-11-2010, 06:00 PM
But time was of the essence. He could have just stood there calm, cool, and collected until they both blew up. He did what he had to do to get the job done. Just like he would with Hannibal.

you're missing the point. when the shit hits the fan, batman is just as fallible as the next man. he has just as much of a temper as the next man. this myth that he's so stoic and that brings him the victory is rubbish. ever seen the escape scene in 'silence of the lambs?' he wears a dude's face out of the psych hospital all the while maintaining normal vital signs. ever seen how he escapes from mason verger in 'hannibal?'

Absolute. Dead. Calm.

you can't rattle the cat. he's got the edge in intelligence. he has the edge in every way I can foresee aside from gadgets, and we all know how good those are when your brain is being sauteed.

game over (flip, flip, flip)

Bwana
08-11-2010, 06:11 PM
Hannibal would kill him, then eat him, while enjoying a glass of fine red wine.

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-11-2010, 06:56 PM
Hannibal is WAY too smart for Bruce Wayne.

Lechter ALL...DAY...LONG, *****'!!!!!!111111

Brock
08-11-2010, 07:08 PM
Uh, based on the strength of schedule, I'd have to go with Batman there.

boogblaster
08-11-2010, 09:00 PM
lecter likes bat-wing soup

Param
08-11-2010, 09:01 PM
Is it just me, or does this seem like a pussy battle.

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 08:13 AM
Is it just me, or does this seem like a pussy battle.

just because they're not breaking out the tanks and bombs doesn't mean they aren't using the most deadly weapon of all (the brain).

Pants
08-12-2010, 09:38 AM
you're missing the point. when the shit hits the fan, batman is just as fallible as the next man. he has just as much of a temper as the next man. this myth that he's so stoic and that brings him the victory is rubbish. ever seen the escape scene in 'silence of the lambs?' he wears a dude's face out of the psych hospital all the while maintaining normal vital signs. ever seen how he escapes from mason verger in 'hannibal?'

Absolute. Dead. Calm.

you can't rattle the cat. he's got the edge in intelligence. he has the edge in every way I can foresee aside from gadgets, and we all know how good those are when your brain is being sauteed.

game over (flip, flip, flip)

You're probably the dumbest poster on the CP, dude. Dumber than billay I'd venture to say. Batman's brain withstood the most powerful psychosis inducing drug and you're telling me some psycho serial killer with a degree in psychiatry is going to rattle him? HAHAHAHAHA. Hahahaha. Haha. Hah. Ha. Wooooo! That was good.

Sofa King
08-12-2010, 10:06 AM
You're probably the dumbest poster on the CP, dude. Dumber than billay I'd venture to say. Batman's brain withstood the most powerful psychosis inducing drug and you're telling me some psycho serial killer with a degree in psychiatry is going to rattle him? HAHAHAHAHA. Hahahaha. Haha. Hah. Ha. Wooooo! That was good.

That is an insanely bold statement.

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 10:07 AM
You're probably the dumbest poster on the CP, dude. Dumber than billay I'd venture to say. Batman's brain withstood the most powerful psychosis inducing drug and you're telling me some psycho serial killer with a degree in psychiatry is going to rattle him? HAHAHAHAHA. Hahahaha. Haha. Hah. Ha. Wooooo! That was good.

you know, there's an adage about the internet... the only time you really know you've won an argument and that the other guy has nothing to say is when he breaks out the petty, nonsensical insults.

fact check: high GPA in an advanced scientific field of study (microbiology/biotechnology) at a major university. yeah, that's real dumb. have fun making more shit up, moron.

oh, and get back to me when you have any substance.

(for what it's worth, the brain handling a hallucinogenic drug has little to nothing to do with rattling. people take drugs all the time, doesn't mean they can withstand the rigors of torture by a psychopathic killer)

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 10:10 AM
oh, and I wait with baited breath for your blustery response.

Pants
08-12-2010, 10:13 AM
you know, there's an adage about the internet... the only time you really know you've won an argument and that the other guy has nothing to say is when he breaks out the petty, nonsensical insults.

fact check: high GPA in an advanced scientific field of study (microbiology/biotechnology) at a major university. yeah, that's real dumb. have fun making more shit up, moron.

oh, and get back to me when you have any substance.

(for what it's worth, the brain handling a hallucinogenic drug has little to nothing to do with rattling. people take drugs all the time, doesn't mean they can withstand the rigors of torture by a psychopathic killer)

I'm sorry that you always try to sound really smart only to be put in your place every time. Don't get too defensive there, lol. And yes, people take hallucinogens all the time. HOWEVER, the one forced on Bruce Wayne was designed to permanently scramble your mind with fear and not give you a pleasant trip. His willpower and mental fortitude alone enabled him to stay sane for long enough to get the antidote. You might also remember he received an incredibly high dose from which no human being should have been able to recover. I'm pretty sure his willpower which is like a 5 foot thick steel door would keep pretty safe from any mind tricks deployed by your boy.

And your claim that Hannibal could somehow get close enough to torture him is laughable at best. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 10:17 AM
I'm sorry that you always try to sound really smart only to be put in your place every time. Don't get too defensive there, lol. And yes, people take hallucinogens all the time. HOWEVER, the one forced on Bruce Wayne was designed to permanently scramble your mind with fear and not give you a pleasant trip. His willpower and mental fortitude alone enabled him to stay sane for long enough to get the antidote. You might also remember he received an incredibly high dose from which no human being should have been able to recover. I'm pretty sure his willpower which is like a 5 foot thick steel door would keep pretty safe from any mind tricks deployed by your boy.

And your claim that Hannibal could somehow get close enough to torture him is laughable at best. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

do you know what's REALLY funny? the adult who says he's putting me in my place constantly puts LOL in his posts.

are you 25 or a teenage girl? I'm not sure at this point.

(I also note: there's a difference between setting the record straight and being defensive. I'm quite comfortable in my intelligence. are you in yours?)

Pants
08-12-2010, 10:25 AM
do you know what's REALLY funny? the adult who says he's putting me in my place constantly puts LOL in his posts.

are you 25 or a teenage girl? I'm not sure at this point.

(I also note: there's a difference between setting the record straight and being defensive. I'm quite comfortable in my intelligence. are you in yours?)

I didn't say I was the one putting you in your place. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'm actually a 17 year old girl! Seriously, quit being so butthurt, don't worry about "setting the record straight" and get back to the argument at hand. Nobody except your mom gives a **** about your education. Chop chop! Back to Batman vs Hannibal.


P.S. lololololololololololololol

loochy
08-12-2010, 11:04 AM
LOL at bitter arguments over BATMAN.

Pants
08-12-2010, 11:05 AM
LOL at bitter arguments over BATMAN.

Do not fuck with Batman, the greatest superhero ever invented. EVER!

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 01:07 PM
the ironic thing about metro's arguments for batman (aside from his being a batman fanboy, who is OBVIOUSLY coming at this from a nonbiased point of view) is that he hasn't given any clear, logical argument for batman.

DUR DUR MIND GAS GAH DUR PSYCHIATRIST DEEE DAH DUR BESTEST SUPERHERO EVAR!!1

LOLOLOLOL


there, I saved you your next post.

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 01:10 PM
and I should point out, it's interesting that there are 39 other people who are the dumbest posters on the planet, seeing as they ALSO voted for lecter.

so apparently, if you don't agree with metromike, you're just plain dumb.

yep. makes a shit-ton of sense.

Sofa King
08-12-2010, 01:13 PM
LOL at bitter arguments over BATMAN.

i prefer to think of it as a bitter arguement over Hannibal....

loochy
08-12-2010, 01:17 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/kristindenise/images/batman_robin.jpg
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001101655/Batman20Kiss_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg
http://images.ibsys.com/2004/0913/3725828.jpg

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 01:18 PM
while we're on the subject... as a black man, this has been bothering me...

1) batman ain't the dark knight. darth vader is. you fucking honkeys voted him out in the villainlympics, cracker motherfuckers. and the star wars fucks fucked up that shit too--a dark, soulful brother who knew the force.... who was really a white man inside. what the fuck is that shit? fucked up a fine, nubian brother.

2) you honkey pigfuckers just hatin' on my brotha hannibal because he beat out yo pasty skinned heath ledger. seriously, we black folks fucking hate clowns--you honkeys eat that shit up. ain't no brotha I know ever paint his face for any reason.

so, I come to the conclusion that you fuckers are just racist. it isn't enough that you steal our dances, you have to steal our heroes too? fuckin' crackers.

Pants
08-12-2010, 01:20 PM
and I should point out, it's interesting that there are 39 other people who are the dumbest posters on the planet, seeing as they ALSO voted for lecter.

so apparently, if you don't agree with metromike, you're just plain dumb.

yep. makes a shit-ton of sense.

No. It's only you. Don't make this personal. Batman > Hannibal. You should just probably agree and leave.

loochy
08-12-2010, 01:21 PM
while we're on the subject... as a black man, this has been bothering me...

1) batman ain't the dark knight. darth vader is. you fucking honkeys voted him out in the villainlympics, cracker motherfuckers. and the star wars fucks fucked up that shit too--a dark, soulful brother who knew the force.... who was really a white man inside. what the fuck is that shit? fucked up a fine, nubian brother.

2) you honkey pigfuckers just hatin' on my brotha hannibal because he beat out yo pasty skinned heath ledger. seriously, we black folks fucking hate clowns--you honkeys eat that shit alive. ain't no brotha I know ever paint his face for any reason.

so, I come to the conclusion that you fuckers are just racist.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/sw50sw8sw578.gif

Sofa King
08-12-2010, 02:56 PM
while we're on the subject... as a black man, this has been bothering me...

1) batman ain't the dark knight. darth vader is. you ****ing honkeys voted him out in the villainlympics, cracker mother****ers. and the star wars ****s ****ed up that shit too--a dark, soulful brother who knew the force.... who was really a white man inside. what the **** is that shit? ****ed up a fine, nubian brother.

2) you honkey pig****ers just hatin' on my brotha hannibal because he beat out yo pasty skinned heath ledger. seriously, we black folks ****ing hate clowns--you honkeys eat that shit up. ain't no brotha I know ever paint his face for any reason.

so, I come to the conclusion that you ****ers are just racist. it isn't enough that you steal our dances, you have to steal our heroes too? ****in' crackers.

are you self-racist?

This either reeks of sarcasm, or stinks of confusion...

ClevelandBronco
08-12-2010, 03:01 PM
while we're on the subject... as a black man, this has been bothering me...

1) batman ain't the dark knight. darth vader is. you ****ing honkeys voted him out in the villainlympics, cracker mother****ers. and the star wars ****s ****ed up that shit too--a dark, soulful brother who knew the force.... who was really a white man inside. what the **** is that shit? ****ed up a fine, nubian brother.

2) you honkey pig****ers just hatin' on my brotha hannibal because he beat out yo pasty skinned heath ledger. seriously, we black folks ****ing hate clowns--you honkeys eat that shit up. ain't no brotha I know ever paint his face for any reason.

so, I come to the conclusion that you ****ers are just racist. it isn't enough that you steal our dances, you have to steal our heroes too? ****in' crackers.

http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/2426/Bamboozled.jpg

Sofa King
08-12-2010, 03:08 PM
http://www.fotobank.ru/img/JW00-5855.jpg?size=l

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 03:12 PM
you just tryin' to keep a brotha down.

Brock
08-12-2010, 03:18 PM
Come on, some old man, fascinating though he may be, vs. Batman? This is stupid.

Rain Man
08-12-2010, 03:37 PM
I'm presuming the winner of this then goes up against the smell of bacon frying.

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 03:38 PM
I'm presuming the winner of this then goes up against the smell of bacon frying.

I see no reason why not.

Sofa King
08-12-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm presuming the winner of this then goes up against the smell of bacon frying.

bacon wrapped batman?

Ebolapox
08-12-2010, 03:42 PM
bacon wrapped batman?

Hannibal prefers liver-wrapped batman. :p

loochy
08-12-2010, 04:22 PM
bacon wrapped batman?

Here he is.

http://www.failpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/fat-batman.jpg