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Tribal Warfare
08-10-2010, 11:13 PM
Tuesday in Chiefs camp | Cassel ready to play; Berry involved in scuffle (http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/10/2142397/tuesday-in-chiefs-camp-cassel.html)

Cassel says he’s ready for preseason opener

Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel said Tuesday that he’d like to play the entirety of Friday’s preseason opener at Atlanta, adding that he’s eager to compete against defenders who aren’t his teammates.

“Everybody, to a man here, is ready to start hitting somebody else, start sweating against somebody else,” Cassel said. “It’ll be fun to get out there and be a good challenge for us.

“In these games, you never know how much you’re going to play, and so I’m preparing to play the whole game if I have to.”

Projected starters are typically limited to a handful of plays in the first preseason game. Coach Todd Haley hasn’t said how much he’ll play Cassel, saying earlier this week that he’ll make that decision later in the week.

Holmes praises Charles

Priest Holmes, the Chiefs’ career rushing leader, said Tuesday that Jamaal Charles possesses many of the skills it takes to achieve long-term success in the NFL — and perhaps enough to surpass Holmes’ team-record 6,070 career yards rushing.

“His upside is very high,” Holmes said. “He’s in a good situation. They always say that you’re as good as your last performance, and I think that what he has done is set a precedent of what he’s capable of doing.

“He has the breakaway speed that not all players have; he has the ability. If they cater to his running style and his ability, I think that’s where his success will really show.”

Holmes spent seven seasons with the Chiefs, rushing for at least 1,400 yards from 2001-03. A neck injury forced him to retire during the 2007 season. Larry Johnson came to within 55 yards of Holmes’ record before the Chiefs cut Johnson last year.

Charles, who like Holmes attended the University of Texas, rushed for 1,120 last season, his first as the Chiefs’ regular starter. Holmes said that if Charles maintains that pace and stays healthy, it’s reasonable to predict that he could threaten Holmes’ record.

“It’s definitely going to take some more years,” Holmes said. “I think he’ll have an opportunity.

“As far as having another fellow Texan be able to break the record or get close to the record, that’s always good business.”

Chiefs move practices indoors

The team announced Tuesday afternoon that it would hold two upcoming practices in the Griffon Indoor Complex to keep players out of the extreme heat in St. Joseph.

The Chiefs will practice twice today, with the morning practice held on the outdoor fields and the afternoon session moved indoors. The Chiefs will also practice indoors Monday morning. All indoor workouts are closed to the public.

What you need to know about …

THE OFFENSE
Dexter McCluster ran some plays from the tailback position Tuesday, adding yet another dimension to the rookie’s repertoire. He is listed as a wide receiver, and he’s also expected to return some kicks. … Cassel had to fall on a loose ball during red-zone work after center Rudy Niswanger snapped it too low, sending the ball between Cassel’s legs. … Tight end Jake O’Connell has looked far sharper this week than he has perhaps since the Chiefs drafted him last year. O’Connell, whose hands are normally unreliable, fought off three defenders in the end zone to make a tough catch.

THE DEFENSE
Rookie safety Eric Berry showed a rare side of himself late in Tuesday’s session, fighting with O’Connell. The normally mild-mannered Berry jumped on O’Connell’s back during 11-on-11 drills, and the two had to be separated. … Cornerback Javier Arenas, who was listed as the team’s starting kick and punt returner on its initial depth chart, bobbled a punt before recovering it during special-teams work. … Defensive end Tyson Jackson was the only player to jump offside during a situational drill that simulated a hard count.

INJURY REPORT
Tight end Tony Moeaki and cornerback Jackie Bates were in the conditioning area during practice. Guard Darryl Harris hasn’t participated since suffering a leg injury Friday.

DAILY BATTLE
Haley said Tuesday that the most tense position battle so far in camp is at weakside inside linebacker, between Demorrio Williams and Derrick Johnson. Williams was listed as the starter when the first depth chart was released Monday. Johnson has said he is determined to regain the starting job he lost during last year’s preseason.

TODAY’S SCHEDULE
The Chiefs will practice at 8:50 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. The afternoon practice will be held indoors and therefore will be closed to the public.

KCrockaholic
08-10-2010, 11:21 PM
DJ needs to start with Belcher, and Niswanger needs to quit sucking dick.

DBOSHO
08-10-2010, 11:23 PM
DJ needs to start with Belcher, and Niswanger needs to quit sucking dick.

100% this.

and oconnell needs to go away.

pikesome
08-10-2010, 11:24 PM
Niswanger needs to quit sucking dick.

Or start. Whatever he needs to do to play better.

mcaj22
08-10-2010, 11:24 PM
If DJ ends up not starting for the second straight season because this FO chooses to jerk off smart players over talented players, I could see him throwing a fit/demanding a trade/pulling a Jarrad Page/TG once the season starts. Which rightfully so for him. Fucking first round pick playing second fiddle behind a bunch of scrub linebackers.

KCrockaholic
08-10-2010, 11:25 PM
100% this.

and oconnell needs to go away.

Oh yeah, this too.

KCrockaholic
08-10-2010, 11:26 PM
If DJ ends up not starting for the second straight season because this FO chooses to jerk off smart players over talented players, I could see him throwing a fit/demanding a trade/pulling a Jarrad Page/TG once the season starts. Which rightfully so for him. ****ing first round pick playing second fiddle behind a bunch of scrub linebackers.

In all honesty, DJ was extremely inconsistent last year. He would blow a coverage, miss tackles and assignments, then come back and make a big TFL.

I think his inconsistency is what kept him off the field last year. With that said, he is our best ILB. He needs to start this year.

mcaj22
08-11-2010, 01:06 AM
In all honesty, DJ was extremely inconsistent last year. He would blow a coverage, miss tackles and assignments, then come back and make a big TFL.

I think his inconsistency is what kept him off the field last year. With that said, he is our best ILB. He needs to start this year.



I'm saying he got a taste of what it is to make two big plays in that last game of the season, if he can't carry that over and this staff doesn't play him this season the way he views he should be playing, I could see him throwing a tantrum/causing problems ala trade me.

This guy isn't going to be happy being 2nd string, especially for a second season in a row. This guy has been a starter his whole life, he won't settle for less. Some NFL team will start him regardless of his liabilities.

DaneMcCloud
08-11-2010, 01:08 AM
I'm saying he got a taste of what it is to make two big plays in that last game of the season, if he can't carry that over and this staff doesn't play him this season the way he views he should be playing, I could see him throwing a tantrum/causing problems ala trade me.

This guy isn't going to be happy being 2nd string, especially for a second season in a row. This guy has been a starter his whole life, he won't settle for less. Some NFL team will start him regardless of his liabilities.

DJ's a 5th round pick masquerading at a first rounder.

If the Chiefs get anything out of this douche in year six, I'll be shocked.

He's the Chiefs second worst draft choice, after TyJack, of this decade.

Marcellus
08-11-2010, 04:51 AM
If DJ ends up not starting for the second straight season because this FO chooses to jerk off smart players over talented players, I could see him throwing a fit/demanding a trade/pulling a Jarrad Page/TG once the season starts. Which rightfully so for him. ****ing first round pick playing second fiddle behind a bunch of scrub linebackers.

Let's ignore the fact he was lazy and massively inconsistent last year and every year prior to that.

If he EARNS the spot back he should play.

tyton75
08-11-2010, 05:03 AM
fwiw, I think Demorrio and DJ are our best options on the inside.

LaChapelle
08-11-2010, 05:12 AM
If not for Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton DJ should have been cut
when push comes to shove he will play well enough to save his job
Derrick "Just enough to get by" Johnson -lay off the Snickers

donkhater
08-11-2010, 05:48 AM
DJ's a 5th round pick masquerading at a first rounder.

If the Chiefs get anything out of this douche in year six, I'll be shocked.

He's the Chiefs second worst draft choice, after TyJack, of this decade.

Ryan Sims anyone?

xztop12
08-11-2010, 06:28 AM
I've said in the past that berry is a slightly dirty player, and he has a little of that thuggish demeanor. It's not a big deal it's just that even my grandma was praising him as a good person/draft pick

xztop12
08-11-2010, 06:30 AM
Oh yeah... pics or it didn't happen

philfree
08-11-2010, 07:01 AM
100% this.

and oconnell needs to go away.

From everything i've read O'Connell is having a break throughh type of camp. Why would you want him to go away?


PhilFree:arrow:

milkman
08-11-2010, 07:08 AM
From everything i've read O'Connell is having a break throughh type of camp. Why would you want him to go away?


PhilFree:arrow:

What?

You mean the two catches he's made?

philfree
08-11-2010, 07:13 AM
What?

You mean the two catches he's made?

Oh he's made at least three.:rolleyes:

We won't know till the games start but he seems to be getting it. I guess that's unpopular with some because he was drafted by Pioli and they thought it was a bad pick. I hope him Moeaki both become players because it will only make the Chiefs better.


PhillFree:arrow:

Dave Lane
08-11-2010, 07:18 AM
In all honesty, DJ was extremely inconsistent last year. He would blow a coverage, miss tackles and assignments, then come back and make a big TFL.

I think his inconsistency is what kept him off the field last year. With that said, he is our best ILB. He needs to win his job back this year.

FYP to make it true. If the douche bag can't make them play him by doing his work in practice and games right then f him.

Bane
08-11-2010, 07:37 AM
:quote:
Defensive end Tyson Jackson was the only player to jump offside during a situational drill that simulated a hard count.

Bwaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaa!Thanks again Pisoli!!!!
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Tuckdaddy
08-11-2010, 07:38 AM
DJ's a 5th round pick masquerading at a first rounder.

If the Chiefs get anything out of this douche in year six, I'll be shocked.

He's the Chiefs second worst draft choice, after TyJack, of this decade.


I am also starting to think that Jackson is a complete bust as well. Real Pioli flop. He had better win the starting job and show alot of improvement. The next R Seymour he is not, at least so far.

MOhillbilly
08-11-2010, 07:52 AM
DJ's a 5th round pick masquerading at a first rounder.

If the Chiefs get anything out of this douche in year six, I'll be shocked.

He's the Chiefs second worst draft choice, after TyJack, of this decade.

What kinda asshole jumps offsides when they know its a hardcount drill?

milkman
08-11-2010, 08:01 AM
What kinda asshole jumps offsides when they know its a hardcount drill?

The kind that busts.

DBOSHO
08-11-2010, 09:55 AM
Oh he's made at least three.:rolleyes:

We won't know till the games start but he seems to be getting it. I guess that's unpopular with some because he was drafted by Pioli and they thought it was a bad pick. I hope him Moeaki both become players because it will only make the Chiefs better.


PhillFree:arrow:

id rather have moeaki and pope. pope is a redzone threat with his height

Coogs
08-11-2010, 10:34 AM
What kinda asshole jumps offsides when they know its a hardcount drill?

I want to think that even though it was a "hardcount" drill, that there was "regular" snap counts mixed in to keep the "hardcount" part of the drill effective. Hope that made sense. :shrug:

boogblaster
08-11-2010, 10:54 AM
play em in the heat .. builds stamina .. hell i used to barn hay all summer long in just as high temps ...

CaliforniaChief
08-11-2010, 10:58 AM
O'Connell is garbage. If he is on this roster when we break camp and start the season, then we've done nothing to upgrade that position.

Weiseaki needs to get healthy.

ChiefsCountry
08-11-2010, 11:03 AM
I agree Cassel should play the entire preseason game that is what backup QBs do.
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KCrockaholic
08-11-2010, 11:32 AM
O'Connell is garbage. If he is on this roster when we break camp and start the season, then we've done nothing to upgrade that position.

Weiseaki needs to get healthy.

What position? The 3rd string TE spot? Because that is such an important position to upgrade, right?

CaliforniaChief
08-11-2010, 11:34 AM
What position? The 3rd string TE spot? Because that is such an important position to upgrade, right?

When your #1 would probably sprain his ankle in a medical supply store, yes. I'm just saying that O'Connell has no place on a roster that is supposedly improving.

Gravedigger
08-11-2010, 11:59 AM
play em in the heat .. builds stamina .. hell i used to barn hay all summer long in just as high temps ...

I did that in PA for 2 summers, holy shit it wasn't so much the heat as it was the dust.

Blick
08-11-2010, 12:12 PM
I don't get the "DJ needs to earn his job back" crowd. What the fuck did Williams and Mays do to deserve to be starters? They sucked dick ALL YEAR LONG.

You have DJ - gives up big plays, but makes big plays

And then you have Mays and Williams - give up big plays, and that's fucking it, you don't get anything else

They ALL give up big plays, but DJ is the only one who makes plays, and he doesn't deserve to start? WTF? It doesn't make any sense.

Maybe if they gave out awards for an All-Practice team, then Mays and Williams would deserve to be 1st teamers. But, All-Practice players don't help you win games on Sunday.

L.A. Chieffan
08-11-2010, 12:15 PM
I dont understand why people didn't realize that the TJax pick was horrible right from the start. All the signs were there.

SDChiefs
08-11-2010, 12:17 PM
I dont understand why people didn't realize that the TJax pick was horrible right from the start. All the signs were there.

I think the only person that didn't realize that was Scott Pioli himself. I think everybody else was like "WTF" :doh!:

L.A. Chieffan
08-11-2010, 12:19 PM
I think the only person that didn't realize that was Scott Pioli himself. I think everybody else was like "WTF" :doh!:

HAHA, I wish. Many arguments and name calling ensued immediately after.

OnTheWarpath58
08-11-2010, 12:24 PM
I don't get the "DJ needs to earn his job back" crowd. What the fuck did Williams and Mays do to deserve to be starters? They sucked dick ALL YEAR LONG.

You have DJ - gives up big plays, but makes big plays

And then you have Mays and Williams - give up big plays, and that's fucking it, you don't get anything else

They ALL give up big plays, but DJ is the only one who makes plays, and he doesn't deserve to start? WTF? It doesn't make any sense.

Maybe if they gave out awards for an All-Practice team, then Mays and Williams would deserve to be 1st teamers. But, All-Practice players don't help you win games on Sunday.

Rep.

ClevelandBronco
08-11-2010, 12:24 PM
Holmes praises Charles

Priest Holmes, the Chiefs’ career rushing leader, said Tuesday that Jamaal Charles possesses many of the skills it takes to achieve long-term success in the NFL — and perhaps enough to surpass Holmes’ team-record 6,070 career yards rushing.

That's not much of a career.

SDChiefs
08-11-2010, 01:19 PM
I just want to say, I love the fact we have a safety willing to go toe to toe with a TE.

TheGuardian
08-11-2010, 01:49 PM
If DJ ends up not starting for the second straight season because this FO chooses to jerk off smart players over talented players, I could see him throwing a fit/demanding a trade/pulling a Jarrad Page/TG once the season starts. Which rightfully so for him. ****ing first round pick playing second fiddle behind a bunch of scrub linebackers.

Do you actually watch the games or just make a profession out of rectum speak?

Derrick Johnson has never been great regardless of draft position. He's been the model on inconsistency on the field. Pull your head out.

Just Passin' By
08-11-2010, 01:53 PM
Do you actually watch the games or just make a profession out of rectum speak?

Derrick Johnson has never been great regardless of draft position. He's been the model on inconsistency on the field. Pull your head out.

Yes... but... 1st round pick!

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-11-2010, 03:18 PM
DJ's a 5th round pick masquerading at a first rounder.

If the Chiefs get anything out of this douche in year six, I'll be shocked.

He's the Chiefs second worst draft choice, after TyJack, of this decade.

:spock:

Sims, Siavii??

RustShack
08-11-2010, 03:28 PM
Siavii was a second round pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-11-2010, 03:29 PM
Siavii was a second round pick.

No shit. He didn't say worst "first round choice" he said "worst choice".

RustShack
08-11-2010, 03:36 PM
No shit. He didn't say worst "first round choice" he said "worst choice".

Well how about Marcus Maxey? Alphonso Hodge? Kris Wilson, Keyaron Fox, Eddie Freeman, Omar Easy, Marvin Minnis, Eric Downing, and so on?

notorious
08-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Well how about Marcus Maxey? Alphonso Hodge? Kris Wilson, Keyaron Fox, Eddie Freeman, Omar Easy, Marvin Minnis, Eric Downing, and so on?

The list is longer than my.......well, it's pretty long.




:)




Seriously, DJ has million dollar talent and a $.10 head. What a waste.

RustShack
08-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Yeah I wonder if thats why Haley benched DJ so now he actually has to work for his job. I wonder if him actually putting in the effort will make him be good since he does have the talent. I wonder if in some crazy ploy this was Haley's plan for DJ to finally reach his potential.

OnTheWarpath58
08-11-2010, 04:25 PM
Do you actually watch the games or just make a profession out of rectum speak?

Derrick Johnson has never been great regardless of draft position. He's been the model on inconsistency on the field. Pull your head out.

No one has said he's great.

No one has said he's consistent.

However, it's obvious that even at less than 100% of his ability, and being inconsistent, he's still better than anything else we have at that position.

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-11-2010, 04:39 PM
CASSEL'S READY TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap::eek: